RIP Wii, you were doomed to follow the footsteps of the FailCube

[The_Canadian]

Sorry Wii, you tricked mental patients, kids, basement dwellers and the elderly, but it's time. You are a joke. You are not a real console. innovation my ass, you're just a pathetic gimmick. Even more pathetic is that people actually bought you in the hopes of getting a gaming console. You had the world tricked, thinking that the controller would change gaming forever. When it was finally released, Wii made people cry, in happiness, because they thought that they had a piece of gaming history. Fast forward to mid 2008, all Wii games of somewhat decency have been released and all 3rd party games have been non- successful so far. So here are the nails to the Wiis coffin

The controller is a gimmick. It's not revolutionary, it doesn't improve gameplay, it's nothing. You think flinging the controller forward to reload a gun is revolutionary and boner inducing? Wrong, it's the exact opposite. Why take what a simple press of a button can do, and make it 200 times more time/energy/effort needed to do? Take Metroid Prime 3 for example, you go around opening doors with the wiimote. Wow, this is so fun I have a semi. Half the time it doesn't even register properly, or it cannot tell the difference between lazy and effort. Wii Sports as an example, swinging your arm with enough force to crack a skull will get you the same result as just swinging your wrist. Wow, neat. Not to mention that 3rd party games have such horrid controls, playing without batteries would be easier! I however, have to give it credit that shooting is fun, it is like a lightgun. Too bad the only gun you get is crossbows

The games are shallow minigames and have no replay value. Beat Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario and Zelda? Now what can I do with it? Nothing, that's what. What about Mario Party X, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers Melee Wii Edition? Got bored of it already, huh? Seeing as they are pretty much ports of GameCube games with useless new features, I'm not surprised. What's this, Wii Fit? If you want to get fit, subscribe to a gym you lazy fat fuck. What about 3rd party games? Not a single one has ever done it right. Apart from the fact that the controls are bad, they always get Wii users a hard-on with their Wii-exclusive crap, even though it always comes out never like how it is on paper. Take Spiderman 3 as an example, although the game was bad in all consoles, the Wii version was extremely bad. The devs claim that the Wii version will have "superior swinging, just like as if you are Spidey. The fighting system will be completely remade to take advantage of the Wiis capabilities." Lets look at the motion controls, you swing the controller to fight and to swing. Sounds good on paper, but lets see it in the game. Swinging is bad, your wiimote is usually above the sensor, so it doesn't register. Fighting, you pretty much swing your arms back and forth, like jerking off a 4x8x4 penis. Wow, that's real gameplay and innovation. How about that game that's going to come out, Star Wars Force Unleased? 360 and PS3 will have Havok, Euphoria, adaptive AI, etc. Although the Wii version is no where near capable of doing any of those, the Wii will have "controls as if you are actually using a light saber. You can be a Padawan or a Jedi, it's your move." All of the Wii users head exploded, bragging to 360 and PS3 owners "yeah, gamepads are ok, but I get to really play like a jedi." Wrong. history has repeated itself over and over again, this will be no different. All of the Wiis star games have come out, now what? Doomed to be just like the FailCube.

Hardware and software from 2001. Although the Wiimote is new, the Wii console is pretty much a repackaged GameCube. It cannot generate graphics like the 360 or PS3, it can't have Havok or Euphoria, it can't do anything a console in 2008 should. You'd probably now say "It's about gamepay, not graphics!" Wrong, in order to have gameplay, you need graphics and advanced software. If graphics didn't matter, I guess you wouldn't mind if the game was black and white, had 2D sprites and low res textures. I mean, it is gameplay after all, right? Graphics and gameplay are equally important. Anyways, back to the hardware and software, it's outdated. Why is GTA4, COD4, Orange Box, Star Wars, etc either not released on Wii or severely stripped? Because the Wii will explode if it even tried to run it. "The gaming audience doesn't like mature games, it's just family and casual gaming!" Oh, cool, I guess I should play Manhunt 2 with my family then.

Online. I understand that the majority of Wii players are under 12, and internet predators might try to get someone through the Wii, but this system is ridiculous. Right before you go online, go into an online message board, copy down all of the codes and go through each one, hoping to get into a game. This is how is should be, you should make a universal account like the 360 and everyone under legal age has to use the current system to play online. anyone over the legal age can have a regular lobby system.

The community. Everyone with a wii act all smug and think that they are god's gift to the planet. They think that they are superior to 360 and PS3 users, because they have a fancy controller. Anytime someone is talking about how COD4 and GTA4 are great, they blurt out "that game is ok, but Brawl is better that that!" They commonly use arguments such as "It's about gameplay, it's innovative, the games are family orientated!" And when you completely prove him wrong, he'll say "If it's so bad, why is it the best selling console?" It's the best selling one because your mommy bought the one with the smallest price tag. Ah, no worries, Wii users have already regretted buying it, as seen on the Wii boards. "Will GTA4 ever come out on Wii?","What game should I buy now, I just beat Galaxy" and "Some fun things to do in Brawl?"

GG Wii, but you lost before it even started.

[MidgetHunter]

It's two gamecubes duct taped together with a remote 3rd party companies should be making for every console.

See, that didn't take 500 words.

[Nickster]

I wanna see if they'll re-release Brawl for the gamecube, like they did for Twilight Princess.

Shut up, it could happen.

On a semi-related note, I just got this massive urge to play Zelda. I'll pick up TP when I'm done with Ocarina, and then I'll go on an epic hunt for Majora's Mask. Wish me luck.

See, that didn't take 500 words.

It also didn't take 1070.

nitpicklol

[Total Madman]

Wii owners are like Mac owners. Deep down they know what they're using is a pile of shit compared to the alternatives on the market, but they're so committed to the lie that they'll argue to the death that they made a smart investment.

[staek?]

Wrong, in order to have gameplay, you need graphics and advanced software. If graphics didn't matter, I guess you wouldn't mind if the game was black and white, had 2D sprites nad low res textures.


:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

That's like saying awesome special effects in movies make the cinematography. They're completely different from each other. Does Assassin's Creed graphics make up for it's EXTREMELY repetitive missions and lame combat system? Some of the best games in video game history are sprites with low res textures and I swear to God I would much rather play SNES and Sega Genesis games than a lot of the crap I see on consoles these days.


But for the most part I agreed with most of your post. The Wii is starting to lose it's thunder because it's focusing wayyyy too much on young gamers. But then again, for many people the Wii is their first console and people that normally don't play video games are getting into it because of the Wii. I think the Wii gets a little credit for that.

Also Canadian, when are you going to PM me your steam account?

[bobtheflob]

Quite the hate here. I have both a Wii and an XBox. I use the XBox more, but I still enjoy the Wii. It works well for party games with people who usually aren't huge video game players.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/830/830225p1.html

Even if it crashed and burned today, the profits are already substantial. I don't think that constitutes a failure.

edit:

Also:

http://www.videogamechat.net/news/industry-news/Profit-and-Loss-Sony-Microsoft-and-Nintendo-63

Wii owners are like Mac owners. Deep down they know what they're using is a pile of shit compared to the alternatives on the market, but they're so committed to the lie that they'll argue to the death that they made a smart investment.

I don't understand the Mac hate. I'm a PC user, but even I recognize the superiority of a Mac.

It runs cooler and quieter. It's more secure against malicious code and attacks. The hardware is reliable. And Macs run Windows: Vista better than PC's do nowadays.

The only real downside is the difficulty to upgrade them.

[Jakobee]

The OP is a god, i bought a Wii when it first came out and got bored within a day. Bought some games completed them and got bored. Sold it and used to money to pay towards a PS3 and have never looked back.

Has anyone noticed that most adverts for Wii games hardly have any gameplay in them, just some retard swinging there Wiimote round?

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Has anyone noticed that most adverts for Wii games hardly have any gameplay in them, just some retard swinging there Wiimote round?

Ever notice that all advertisements for Final Fantasy games never have any gameplay in them, just FMV sequences?

Hmm, the same could be said for the MGS games, but it's probably pretty hard to find any gameplay to show in those anyways.

[SatanTheSith]

I used to hate the wii. I played it at a friends house for a few hours and its pretty fun. I'd buy one. I don't care if its not revolutionary or anything, its fun. It would probably be more fun if you had friends to play it with OP, thats probably your main problem.

[Thomson]

i agree with pretty much everything the OP said about the wii.

they said games would be re-designed from the ground up to make use of the wii dildo and it would revolutionise gaming. all iv seen is the same games with the wiimote feature crowbarred in. shake wiimote to reload gun? wow.

the worst thing is my mom has one and she sits and plays this horse shit for hours with her BF and a few neighbours.

[sublimej311]

I know a lot of hot chicks that like to play with my Wii, so I'll just be focusing on that point.

[rand0m]

wo ...

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I'm speechless ...

[BummedOutMonkey]

I agree with the OP. I had a Wii for about 8 months. I had 4 controllers and a bunch of games. My friends got bored quickly when playing it and I found myself playing games out of obligation rather than enjoyment. Zelda, Metroid, Wii Sports, etc are overrated IMO and the graphics are not good.

I sold everything for $650 on Ebay (before Christmas) and bought a 40gig PS3 for $399+$100 rebate. It is so much better that it is almost silly to make a comparison.

[MissInk]

i love the wii.

of course, i'm terrible at any "real" video games. so i'll stick with ssbb and warioware.

i don't care what "graphikzzz" and "replay value" you have on your ps3. when you're blazed and you pick up a wiimote, it's all over.

[refoops]

OP rides the winmobile to work.

[gigglemuffin]

Fuck you guys I love my Wii. And I'm pretty sure Nintendo doesn't consider the Wii a failure.

[Leesin]

the Wii is pathetic in the long run, fun for an hour or so then the whole gimmick of the shitty motion sensor wears off, i'd much rather use a real controller and play some real games.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

the Wii is pathetic in the long run, fun for an hour or so then the whole gimmick of the shitty motion sensor wears off, i'd much rather use a real controller and play some real games.

Too much physical activity for you?

[rand0m]

Too much physical activity for you?

Because people love to waggle their arms as a form of activity ...

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Because people love to waggle their arms as a form of activity ...

A person playing Wii Boxing burns about 250 calories per hour. A person walking burns about 130 calories per hour.

That's assuming the person weighs around 175 pounds.

Next?

[navid]

common now, you're retarded

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I am? Guess where I work for a living.

Also, note:

I think you meant "come on", not "common".

[Thomson]

MacDonalds?

[bangarang]

I really like the gamecube...

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

MacDonalds?

I work in a hospital. It's also a teaching institution.

[rand0m]

I work in a hospital. It's also a teaching institution.

Yeah and I'm an astronaut. Give us some credit card details and personal information to prove it.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Yeah and I'm an astronaut. Give us some credit card details and personal information to prove it.

Quaint.

Okay, I'll play along:

How about a shitty cellphone picture of my work ID?

[Edgecrusher]

Wii owners are like Mac owners. Deep down they know what they're using is a pile of shit compared to the alternatives on the market, but they're so committed to the lie that they'll argue to the death that they made a smart investment.

Haha you're a funny little bitch.

You don't have to believe me, but my sister got a brand new XPS Dell laptop (no sure the exact model, but it cost $1600 . . .) for college. My dad is sitting roughly 8 feet away from me because the thing is too much of a piece of shit to even run its own OS. I'm typing this reply on a Mac we've had for more than a year . . .

Windows owners are like owners of shitty American vehicles. They like to think that people that own BMW's and Mercedes-Benz are just rich snobs, when in reality, their jealousy fuels their ignorance . . . it's okay, Mommy will get you a Mac if you're a good boy.

[Nickster]

Wow, this thread wen't downhill fast. Even for a console shit-slinging thread. I was expecting a nice sizable horde of well-wishers for my epic quest. Now I feel bad.:(

Narcissism ftl.

Yeah and I'm an astronaut. Give us some credit card details and personal information to prove it.

WTF does that have to with his opinions about fucking video games?

People liek the Wii, you don't, hell I'm not fond of it either. Stop bitching.

Do it faggots.

[Total Madman]

Haha you're a funny little bitch.

You don't have to believe me, but my sister got a brand new XPS Dell laptop (no sure the exact model, but it cost $1600 . . .) for college. My dad is sitting roughly 8 feet away from me because the thing is too much of a piece of shit to even run its own OS. I'm typing this reply on a Mac we've had for more than a year . . .

Windows owners are like owners of shitty American vehicles. They like to think that people that own BMW's and Mercedes-Benz are just rich snobs, when in reality, their jealousy fuels their ignorance . . . it's okay, Mommy will get you a Mac if you're a good boy.

WOW, you really like your computer, don't you?

I mean really like it. My post was a joke, yours was just unpleasant.

On a side note, we don't all live at home with our parents, son.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

On a side note, we don't all live at home with our parents, son.

Lack of context.

Total Madman rolls to hit- 1
Critical failure

[Shackelford]

I like the Wii and owned it until I got a 360 for Christmas and sold that for a PS3. I primarily play Nintendo's games and I've kind of moved away from FPS' and am starting to get into other stuff so the Wii has done a pretty good job so far. I like Adventure games and platformers so I'm happy with both the Wii and PS3. I'd like to see more developers step up a little bit for the Wii but it's getting a little better than it was except for Ubisoft, their stuff is getting worse.

[ukonkivi]

My biggest dissapointment with the Wii is it's lack of graphics.
But if it had those graphics, it would cost a whole lot more.

I bought the Wii because I could afford it at the time.
It's more powerful than my ps2 and seems to have some potential for cool exclusives, that's good enough for me.

Now if I can just figure out why mine won't turn on right now.:O

[Lividum]

All of you shut up and play your stupid games. Stop arguing. Each console has it's positives and negatives. Find one that suits you and shut the fuck up about it.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Hey Lividum, you know they're designing a game just for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT_B69F8USY), right?

[Lividum]

Hey Lividum, you know they're designing a game just for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT_B69F8USY), right?

Yeah, I've had that mentioned to me a couple times before. If I had a Wii, I'd buy it. Maybe sometime down the line I'll get one...

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Supposedly it plays like a beat em up with bugs.

Makes my pants happy.

[High On PCP]

Sorry Wii, you tricked mental patients, kids, basement dwellers and the elderly, but it's time. You are a joke. You are not a real console. innovation my ass, you're just a pathetic gimmick. Even more pathetic is that people actually bought you in the hopes of getting a gaming console. You had the world tricked, thinking that the controller would change gaming forever. When it was finally released, Wii made people cry, in happiness, because they thought that they had a piece of gaming history. Fast forward to mid 2008, all Wii games of somewhat decency have been released and all 3rd party games have been non- successful so far. So here are the nails to the Wiis coffin

The controller is a gimmick. It's not revolutionary, it doesn't improve gameplay, it's nothing. You think flinging the controller forward to reload a gun is revolutionary and boner inducing? Wrong, it's the exact opposite. Why take what a simple press of a button can do, and make it 200 times more time/energy/effort needed to do? Take Metroid Prime 3 for example, you go around opening doors with the wiimote. Wow, this is so fun I have a semi. Half the time it doesn't even register properly, or it cannot tell the difference between lazy and effort. Wii Sports as an example, swinging your arm with enough force to crack a skull will get you the same result as just swinging your wrist. Wow, neat. Not to mention that 3rd party games have such horrid controls, playing without batteries would be easier! I however, have to give it credit that shooting is fun, it is like a lightgun. Too bad the only gun you get is crossbows

The games are shallow minigames and have no replay value. Beat Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario and Zelda? Now what can I do with it? Nothing, that's what. What about Mario Party X, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers Melee Wii Edition? Got bored of it already, huh? Seeing as they are pretty much ports of GameCube games with useless new features, I'm not surprised. What's this, Wii Fit? If you want to get fit, subscribe to a gym you lazy fat fuck. What about 3rd party games? Not a single one has ever done it right. Apart from the fact that the controls are bad, they always get Wii users a hard-on with their Wii-exclusive crap, even though it always comes out never like how it is on paper. Take Spiderman 3 as an example, although the game was bad in all consoles, the Wii version was extremely bad. The devs claim that the Wii version will have "superior swinging, just like as if you are Spidey. The fighting system will be completely remade to take advantage of the Wiis capabilities." Lets look at the motion controls, you swing the controller to fight and to swing. Sounds good on paper, but lets see it in the game. Swinging is bad, your wiimote is usually above the sensor, so it doesn't register. Fighting, you pretty much swing your arms back and forth, like jerking off a 4x8x4 penis. Wow, that's real gameplay and innovation. How about that game that's going to come out, Star Wars Force Unleased? 360 and PS3 will have Havok, Euphoria, adaptive AI, etc. Although the Wii version is no where near capable of doing any of those, the Wii will have "controls as if you are actually using a light saber. You can be a Padawan or a Jedi, it's your move." All of the Wii users head exploded, bragging to 360 and PS3 owners "yeah, gamepads are ok, but I get to really play like a jedi." Wrong. history has repeated itself over and over again, this will be no different. All of the Wiis star games have come out, now what? Doomed to be just like the FailCube.

Hardware and software from 2001. Although the Wiimote is new, the Wii console is pretty much a repackaged GameCube. It cannot generate graphics like the 360 or PS3, it can't have Havok or Euphoria, it can't do anything a console in 2008 should. You'd probably now say "It's about gamepay, not graphics!" Wrong, in order to have gameplay, you need graphics and advanced software. If graphics didn't matter, I guess you wouldn't mind if the game was black and white, had 2D sprites and low res textures. I mean, it is gameplay after all, right? Graphics and gameplay are equally important. Anyways, back to the hardware and software, it's outdated. Why is GTA4, COD4, Orange Box, Star Wars, etc either not released on Wii or severely stripped? Because the Wii will explode if it even tried to run it. "The gaming audience doesn't like mature games, it's just family and casual gaming!" Oh, cool, I guess I should play Manhunt 2 with my family then.

Online. I understand that the majority of Wii players are under 12, and internet predators might try to get someone through the Wii, but this system is ridiculous. Right before you go online, go into an online message board, copy down all of the codes and go through each one, hoping to get into a game. This is how is should be, you should make a universal account like the 360 and everyone under legal age has to use the current system to play online. anyone over the legal age can have a regular lobby system.

The community. Everyone with a wii act all smug and think that they are god's gift to the planet. They think that they are superior to 360 and PS3 users, because they have a fancy controller. Anytime someone is talking about how COD4 and GTA4 are great, they blurt out "that game is ok, but Brawl is better that that!" They commonly use arguments such as "It's about gameplay, it's innovative, the games are family orientated!" And when you completely prove him wrong, he'll say "If it's so bad, why is it the best selling console?" It's the best selling one because your mommy bought the one with the smallest price tag. Ah, no worries, Wii users have already regretted buying it, as seen on the Wii boards. "Will GTA4 ever come out on Wii?","What game should I buy now, I just beat Galaxy" and "Some fun things to do in Brawl?"

GG Wii, but you lost before it even started.

This was WAY to long to read, but even so, if I would have read it, I doubt it would change what I originally thought when I saw this thread...




Which was- you Wii haters didn't even give the Wii a year before it failed. You said it was gimmicky and would play-out in no time. Here we are a year later, and the Wii is still going strong.

So i guess what I'm getting at is stfu.



edit- btw, LOL@ how much effort you put into that post.

[EVO_9MR]

The only thing the wii has done is attract non gamers to video gaming, hence the sales. Nonetheless it's not a system for true gamers. The wii is fun If:
you're 12 years old
you're desperate to lose weight
You enjoy playing games like the upcoming My Pokemon Ranch
You're a father who thinks it will help you bond with your kid.
You think the motion sensing gimmick will make up for everything else shitty about it
you think waving your arms around is more fun than actually playing the game

[rand0m]

This was WAY to long to read, but even so, if I would have read it, I doubt it would change what I originally thought when I saw this thread...

Fail from the start, you can't attack someone if you don't even know what they're talking about.

Which was- you Wii haters didn't even give the Wii a year before it failed. You said it was gimmicky and would play-out in no time. Here we are a year later, and the Wii is still going strong.

The only thing that is strong for the Wii is sales, which from a corporate point of view is good. However for the entire gaming community from developers to gamers, the Wii has failed, pathetic library of games, gimmiky controller and no future.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

The only thing the wii has done is attract non gamers to video gaming, hence the sales. Nonetheless it's not a system for true gamers. The wii is fun If:
you're 12 years old
you're desperate to lose weight
You enjoy playing games like the upcoming My Pokemon Ranch
You're a father who thinks it will help you bond with your kid.
You think the motion sensing gimmick will make up for everything else shitty about it
you think waving your arms around is more fun than actually playing the game

Elebits

Check

Your move.

[elliott678]

The only thing the wii has done is attract non gamers to video gaming, hence the sales. Nonetheless it's not a system for true gamers.
I'd really like to see what the definition of a "true gamer" is, it gets thrown around so much, yet has very little meaning.

From what I can tell, Nintendo is marketing to the same demographic they always have, does this mean the NES and SNES weren't systems for a "true gamer"?

[Molson]

I love my Wii!

Zelda was amazing, Mario is amazing, brawl is amazing (although I hate subspace), mario kart is is fucking deep as fuck. It's a great, fun, relaxing console.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I consider myself a hardcore gamer. I sometimes go a week or two without picking up a controller.

I hated Gran Turismo because it was boring. The racing was uninspired. The customization was cool, but who cares if the core of the game sucks?

I loved F-Zero GX because it was hard as nails. The racing was fun as hell. The customization was pretty "meh", but who cares if the core of the game rocks?

[Leesin]

Too much physical activity for you?

Do you spend most of your day making smartass little comments on this forum ?, tell me what physical activities do you partake in other than the five knuckle shuffle ? bet you dont fuck, bet you dont lift, bet you dont train, i bet you barely even shit.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Do you spend most of your day making smartass little comments on this forum ?, tell me what physical activities do you partake in other than the five knuckle shuffle ? bet you dont fuck, bet you dont lift, bet you dont train, i bet you barely even shit.

I walk four miles every day I work. Two miles to work, two miles from work. I work full time, so that's 20 miles a week of walking, not including errands I have to do around the hospital. My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fantastic. I live south of the Manchester bridge, and work at MCV hospital. You can Google it, and look at the map.

I do upper body workouts for 20 minutes on odd days, lower body and abs for 20 on even. I started earlier this month, figured the walking has gotten me into pretty good shape, and I might as well do a bit more. Of course, I can't provide evidence to this, not even a map :o. If you really want a topless picture of another man though, I'm comfortable enough with myself.

I'm engaged with a son. I could go into detail, but you can probably figure out what that means. This, I CAN provide some evidence for, but I don't think you'd be satisfied with a picture. If you're that concerned with it, you could search around in the older pictures threads and see if you can't find an image of me with my son. It's in there somewhere.

And to answer your first question: I'm an arrogant prick. Yes, I enjoy tossing insults out at other arrogant pricks.

You seemed to take quite a bit of offense at a mildly offensive comment though.

[SatanTheSith]

You seem to really want to prove yourself to a bunch of people you dont know on an internet forum. A video game forum.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Maybe.

Either that, or I just like talking about myself.

I'm not one for psycho babble though.

[rand0m]

I'm going to find you Mr.SelfDestruct ... and then I'm going to sneak up behind you ... and wetwilly you.

[sKin]

Ah, my Wii story.

I remember when it first came out, I was like OMG, I must have it, seeing as I wanted to get back into my gaming roots and the N64 was one of my very first and most cherished consoles. But I waited and waited, and when I finally had the money to get it I was super excited. However, it was sold out EVERYWHERE, and this was over a year after launch. I couldn't fucking believe it. So I waited a few more months, and one night I got a call from Target saying be out front at 6 in the morning on a Sunday to nab a Wii. So I did, and I got one. I was one excited mother fucker, seeing as how much I loved Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and how I just picked up Twilight Princess along with the Wii. Couldn't wait to play the godly game.

Then I got home. Eh. TP was just bad. I hated everything about the Wii almost instantly. The just downright ugly home screen you get when you turn it on, the just horrid "Mii" thing. And man, when I started swinging around the Wii-mote to do sword attacks/jabs in TP, it felt like nothing but a gimmick. A week later, I hadn't beat TP and I just couldn't care less. I felt nothing but regret for the purchase I had made, but thankfully Brawl was on the horizon so I didn't feel too bad.

And then Brawl came out. Within a week, I was just bored as fuck with it. The whole wii-mote controller did absolutely nothing for the game but make it feel super clunky, so I used the gamecube controller instead. So much for innovative controls. I was so disappointed, you have no idea. The Wii had failed me. I bought Super Mario Galaxy out of desperation, but even that felt like whatever. God damn't Nintendo, how could you have failed me again after the horrendous Gamecube???

Long story short, I sold the Wii to my friend with TP and Brawl for 250, and I went and bought Rock Band for my Xbox 360 instead. Best fucking deal of my life. In conclusion, OP is right. Fuck you Nintendo.

[The_Canadian]

I walk four miles every day I work. Two miles to work, two miles from work. I work full time, so that's 20 miles a week of walking, not including errands I have to do around the hospital. My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fantastic.
You try so fucking hard to impress the people on a video game forum, and the exact opposite of video games is exercising. Guess what, no one gives a 2-flush shit about how much you exercise. And the Wii sucks. Give me an arguement about why the Wii is any good and I (or anyone else with a mentality over 8 years old) will give you a rebuttal

[SatanTheSith]

You try so fucking hard to impress the people on a video game forum, and the exact opposite of video games is exercising. Guess what, no one gives a 2-flush shit about how much you exercise. And the Wii sucks. Give me an arguement about why the Wii is any good and me (or anyone else with a mentality over 8 years old) will give you a rebuttal

Its pretty fun.

[PsiRedEye22]

You try so fucking hard to impress the people on a video game forum, and the exact opposite of video games is exercising. Guess what, no one gives a 2-flush shit about how much you exercise. And the Wii sucks. Give me an arguement about why the Wii is any good and I (or anyone else with a mentality over 8 years old) will give you a rebuttal


Lol, is dat some INTERNET XBOX INFANTRY?

[Edgecrusher]

WOW, you really like your computer, don't you?

I mean really like it. My post was a joke, yours was just unpleasant.

On a side note, we don't all live at home with our parents, son.

Son? Haha, says the 15 year old . . .

[Leesin]

I walk four miles every day I work. Two miles to work, two miles from work. I work full time, so that's 20 miles a week of walking, not including errands I have to do around the hospital. My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fantastic. I live south of the Manchester bridge, and work at MCV hospital. You can Google it, and look at the map.

I do upper body workouts for 20 minutes on odd days, lower body and abs for 20 on even. I started earlier this month, figured the walking has gotten me into pretty good shape, and I might as well do a bit more. Of course, I can't provide evidence to this, not even a map :o. If you really want a topless picture of another man though, I'm comfortable enough with myself.

I'm engaged with a son. I could go into detail, but you can probably figure out what that means. This, I CAN provide some evidence for, but I don't think you'd be satisfied with a picture. If you're that concerned with it, you could search around in the older pictures threads and see if you can't find an image of me with my son. It's in there somewhere.

And to answer your first question: I'm an arrogant prick. Yes, I enjoy tossing insults out at other arrogant pricks.

You seemed to take quite a bit of offense at a mildly offensive comment though.

No i'm just an asshole too and i don't need any evidence :bigwink:

[Gunned Down]

Your so mean.... come back to bed.

[Wattle]

I walk four miles every day I work. Two miles to work, two miles from work. I work full time, so that's 20 miles a week of walking, not including errands I have to do around the hospital. My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fantastic. I live south of the Manchester bridge, and work at MCV hospital. You can Google it, and look at the map.

I do upper body workouts for 20 minutes on odd days, lower body and abs for 20 on even. I started earlier this month, figured the walking has gotten me into pretty good shape, and I might as well do a bit more. Of course, I can't provide evidence to this, not even a map :o. If you really want a topless picture of another man though, I'm comfortable enough with myself.

I'm engaged with a son. I could go into detail, but you can probably figure out what that means. This, I CAN provide some evidence for, but I don't think you'd be satisfied with a picture. If you're that concerned with it, you could search around in the older pictures threads and see if you can't find an image of me with my son. It's in there somewhere.

And to answer your first question: I'm an arrogant prick. Yes, I enjoy tossing insults out at other arrogant pricks.

You seemed to take quite a bit of offense at a mildly offensive comment though.

Good job taking eBum's world forcereal.

This is for everyone that takes it forcereal.

[mesaywee3]

I got a Wii and used it the first two days I owned it, since then it has been collecting dust.

[BassGuitar25]

A person playing Wii Boxing burns about 250 calories per hour. A person walking burns about 130 calories per hour.

That's assuming the person weighs around 175 pounds.

Next?

I don't want to burn calories.

I want to play a game and relax.

[Gatsufox]

Every console hasn't been anything worthwhile since the N64 and PS1 days.

My wii gets dusty, maybe if Brawl was as deep as melee and 64 with less laggy and better online I would play that more. I haven't tried Mario Kart Wii yet but I doubt I'll have as much fun with it as the 64 counterpart. But the Wii can be fun though and it gets the girls (really though, girls will actually play with you on this system) which is every GEEKS dream.

I'm happy with my set up now, my Wii for entertainment and WII exclusive games. Then I have my powerful PC for ROMS/Emulation and PC games. Most cool PC games are ones that come out for the Xbox360/PS3 as well. So I guess I don't need those systems heh.

Wait what did I just talk about? I guess... just enjoy the Wii and don't expect any magic out of it because the over-ratedness is killing the Wii.

[Sxarcisious]

You are all wrong.

If jesus was to pick a console, hed choose the wii. Why? because he loves the little children.



The Wii is great, the xbox 360 is great, the ps3 is great...See they are all great, but if jesus would choose the wii, why wont you?

[IGneois]

haha i was playing halo 3 with some 14 year olds that live close by. they have given me a clear image of what a gamer is.

as in, anyone that is saying the OP was win, awesome, epic...

is 14, because thats exactly how they all sound.

[Total Madman]

Son? Haha, says the 15 year old . . .

Damn, when did I lose those years?

Guess I should call my bank, I don't think a 15 year old is allowed a mortgage...


Back on topic, I played on my bud's Wii last night for a few hours. My wrist aches. It was OK for a while, but I definately wouldn't drop £170 on one.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I don't want to burn calories.

I want to play a game and relax.

Than you're doing the wrong thing.

The majority of video games have been shown to increase blood pressure and physical stress.

There are a few out there that are the opposite, but they are very uncommon, and not too popular. Electro Plankton is an example.

[Frostdaddy]

What are two things everybody (who isn't a fucking loser) like to do? Hang out with friends and play video games. Who has consistently made the best party and multiplayer games since 1996? Nintendo. The Wii is just an improvement on Nintendo's multiplayer games. Don't tell me you didn't find Mario Kart Wii fun as fuck, and don't get me started on Brawl.

[High On PCP]

Fail from the start


Yes, you did.


you can't attack someone if you don't even know what they're talking about.

Uh, I read the thread title.... which, not sure if you knew this, clearly stated what the thread was going to be about.



The only thing that is strong for the Wii is sales, which from a corporate point of view is good. However for the entire gaming community from developers to gamers, the Wii has failed, pathetic library of games, gimmiky controller and no future.

Hey, I'm not going to disagree that on a long enough timeline the Wii will fail.


However, since we all know this.... I'd just prefer you and the rest to just find a nice closet somewhere, sit in it, and snuggle up with your console of choice and just caress it gently until this all blows over.


So like I was saying... until that happens, just stfu.

[Leesin]

What are two things everybody (who isn't a fucking loser) like to do? Hang out with friends and play video games. Who has consistently made the best party and multiplayer games since 1996? Nintendo. The Wii is just an improvement on Nintendo's multiplayer games. Don't tell me you didn't find Mario Kart Wii fun as fuck, and don't get me started on Brawl.

The best multiplayer games are all on PC.

[elliott678]

The best multiplayer games are all on PC.Maybe if you are talking about online multiplayer games, Nintendo wins if you are talking about multiple players on the same system, which I consider to be a lot more fun. I never liked playing against people I can't see, I may as well be playing against the computer.

[IGneois]

However, since we all know this.... I'd just prefer you and the rest to just find a nice closet somewhere, sit in it, and snuggle up with your console of choice and just caress it gently until this all blows over.





rand0m doesnt own a console.. he just bashes and defends them for fun.






"i like ps3, it rules, but ill never buy it, wii sucks"

[PokemonMaster]

I can't believe no one has brought this up yet, in defense of nintendo. The wii was designed to target people who hadn't really played video games before (Young children, elderly) NOT the main, average gamer (i.e. everyone on this forum?) It really surprises me no one takes into account that nintendo's goal with the Wii was not graphics, replay value, and all those things we grade games on. Nintendo focused on simply getting the player more physically involved so that they feel as though they are actually golfing or batting.

That is all.

[amputechture]

I love Wii. I've always been a Nintendo fan.

[Frosty]

Than you're doing the wrong thing.

The majority of video games have been shown to increase blood pressure and physical stress.


Wait wat? He just said he didn't want to burn calories and wanted to just play video games. I'd say he's doing the right thing.

And you just told people in a video game forum that video games have been shown to increase blood pressure and physical stress. No shit! Every time you want to chuck the damn controller at the wall, I'd say that's physical stress. And as much as all video gamers hate it, we love it. That frustration? Is classic video gaming.

[ChocoChipCamo]

What are two things everybody (who isn't a fucking loser) like to do? Hang out with friends and play video games. Who has consistently made the best party and multiplayer games since 1996? Nintendo. The Wii is just an improvement on Nintendo's multiplayer games. Don't tell me you didn't find Mario Kart Wii fun as fuck, and don't get me started on Brawl.

I fully agree with you up until the last sentence. Years ago, Nintendo had fun party games such as Mario Kart 64, Golden Eye, and Starfox 64. Then it had Smash Bros. and Melee. All fun party games (though I didn't get too much into the Smash Bros. series myself). Then the Wii came along and suddenly everything started lacking depth. Sacrificing gameplay that required skill and technique that one would need to fine tune for a few months for gimmicky controls that amount to shaking the controller in the hopes of it working correctly. With the rare exceptions of maybe Metroid and Zack n Wiki.

My dislike for the Wii started when my buddies and I played Wii sports for the first (and last) time. We're hardcore gamers. We like games that challenge us, and test our knowledge of how games generally work, while teaching us new things as well. Wii Sports drops all of this in favor of simply swinging the wiimote around. The boxing game is a clear example. Instead of the game deciding who the winner was due to quick reflexes, the ability to duck and weave, jab and uppercut your opponent into submission, the winner is decided by whoever can shake the remote the fastest. At that point, we pretty much in unison said "Oh, fuck that." The same applies to bowling, tennis, and baseball with slight differences in the timing of your crazed waggling. Where's the depth and the learning curve?

Anyways, thank Red Octane there are newer, BETTER party games out there like Guitar Hero and Rockband. Now those games are satisfying, and fun to show off in when in front of friends and onlookers. Of course the first person shooters will always be there, that goes without saying.

Anyhoo. No challenge = no fun = no point.


Edit: Hey! Issa my birthday today! 23 years on the 24th =).

[moose]

I thoroughly enjoy sitting around with my mum my pops and my bro and having a good go at Mario Kart or Mario Party. My mum owns her own business and puts in 80+ hours a week and so when she gets some time to relax, we play the wii. Or she buys those shitty pointless carnival games or games with tons of mini-games in them and enjoys the shit out of it. I still play cod4 every day for my xbox and I consider myself a hardcore gamer for probably the last 6 years. I begged her for months not to get a wii but she did and I'd have to say that as a family and fun pov it was well worth it.

That my friends is why the wii wins.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Wait wat? He just said he didn't want to burn calories and wanted to just play video games. I'd say he's doing the right thing.

And you just told people in a video game forum that video games have been shown to increase blood pressure and physical stress. No shit! Every time you want to chuck the damn controller at the wall, I'd say that's physical stress. And as much as all video gamers hate it, we love it. That frustration? Is classic video gaming.

Reading comprehension FTW?

What he said:

I don't want to burn calories.

I want to play a game and relax.

Video games, by nature, are not relaxing. So, what I previously said stands true, and you basically said "You're wrong, let me reiterate what you said to prove you correct."

[The_Canadian]

Video games, by nature, are not relaxing
Are you fucking retarded? It's Friday night and the week is over, you jack off and then what do you do? Play video games. What can be more relaxing that sitting in a chair, facing a TV, killing some guys without having to deal with your job, family, friends, etc? Please check yourself into a mental institution and never leave.

[Nocturnal]

I have nothing against the Wii, and I hope they stay in business. My only gripe is all the retards who swear that cheerleader girls, their grandmother, and your mom are all so in love the with the system that they are now gamers.

That's total bullshit. Sure some of those people went out and bought the system,but once the novelty wears off they won't be buying games and their Wii will just sit there and collect dust.

[potatopaper]

Are you fucking retarded? It's Friday night and the week is over, you jack off and then what do you do? Play video games. What can be more relaxing that sitting in a chair, facing a TV, killing some guys without having to deal with your job, family, friends, etc? Please check yourself into a mental institution and never leave.

But the statistics show that..... high blood pressure...... stress! arghhh

[Tayz]

the opening poster makers a lot of valid points. as a Wii owner, I am disappointed with it. it's not what i thought it would be.

but you have to admit... those "ports" of Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Mario are a hell lot more fun than most of the games Ps3/360 have. infact, all of Nintendo's first party titles are enjoyable. Mario is iconic, and while his games are usually never complex, they do tend to put a smile on the face of million of people. And hey... most girls come to the sound of Wii. That's not something you can say about PS3 or 360.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Are you fucking retarded? It's Friday night and the week is over, you jack off and then what do you do? Play video games. What can be more relaxing that sitting in a chair, facing a TV, killing some guys without having to deal with your job, family, friends, etc? Please check yourself into a mental institution and never leave.

Well, apparently you have a better notion of a human being's health than medical professionals.

Fun =\= relaxing

Case in point: Sports

Again, it's dependent on the game. Something like a turn based RPG may or may not bother someone. But FPS games, action games, and the like are another story.

[Rado]

I imagine Nintendo are now reading this thread and are thoroughly upset.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I doubt it.

They're probably too busy swimming in pools filled with money.

[MrCrunt]

When is the Wii out?

Can't wait!!!

[PokemonMaster]

And hey... most girls come to the sound of Wii.

That reminds me, there aren't any Topless 360 or Topless PS3 videos =P

[Frosty]

Reading comprehension FTW?

What he said:



Video games, by nature, are not relaxing. So, what I previously said stands true, and you basically said "You're wrong, let me reiterate what you said to prove you correct."

Err, my post came out a little strong...

But yes, video games can be relaxing. A long day's work can ultimately be more stressful than playing video games (in fact, work is likely to be a lot more stressful). Therefore, winding down with video games is an acceptable alternative in one's spare time.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Err, my post came out a little strong...

But yes, video games can be relaxing. A long day's work can ultimately be more stressful than playing video games (in fact, work is likely to be a lot more stressful). Therefore, winding down with video games is an acceptable alternative in one's spare time.

Right. Can be.

If I just want to blow off some steam. I toss Spiderman 2, Hulk:UD, or something similar in. Just run around the city, doing stupid stuff. I'm not concerned with losing or dying, because I'm just playing the game for the sake of playing the game, not to achieve anything.

If, however, I'm playing Morrowind, and the game crashes, or I die for a stupid reason... It might set me back an hour's worth of playtime.

Usually, if I want to relax nowadays. I just lay on the couch reading a book, or sit outside with a beer watching my son play in his wading pool. Sometimes I go for walks. It's usually either something that distracts my mind, or frees my mind to reflect on the day.

Walks are especially a good way for me to relax. I get out, enjoy the sunshine, and I'm all to myself. Even out in the city. No one bothers me, and I can just think.

[The_Canadian]

I doubt it.

They're probably too busy swimming in pools filled with money.
Probably are, there is a lot of wiitards out there

[Ado]

All this system needs is a couple of good games.

I myself own a Wii and some games, and am not disappointed. When friends come over, they always have a blast.

Yet, when I go over to some buddies house and that he owns a 360/PS3 and starts a game (it's always a FPS), it is fun for a couple of minutes, but then, meh.


It all depends on the person. A hardcore gamer would seriously find no longterm fun on the Wii, but people like me (who play every now and then) will prefer such kind of a system.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Probably are, there is a lot of wiitards out there

Wiitards!

Hahaha! That's so clever! Did you come up with that by yourself!? You're so original and clever! I've never heard that one anywhere before! ANYWHERE!

Wiitards! Haha!

[The_Canadian]

Wiitards!

Hahaha! That's so clever! Did you come up with that by yourself!? You're so original and clever! I've never heard that one anywhere before! ANYWHERE!

Wiitards! Haha!
I'm glad you like it

[IGneois]

haha...




i think the wii molested our canadian friend here.



i think in this generation of video games... if you are a gamer that plays the wii, then you remember and understand what videogames were, and continue the tradition of what made those games fun, and continue that in wii games.

xbox360 and ps3 generally base there games on impression and intense competition, which is an intirely different breed of gaming then what was.

i play both because im cool enough to not need to induce stupid threads like this because i dislike something.



FUCK SPINACH ITS FUCKING GROSS, I MEAN GREEN? FUCKING SHIT, THE FUCKING ONION IS SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER, I MEAN...ITS FUCKING ROUND, NOT THAT SQUESHY PILE OF SHIT LIKE SPINACH, FUCK ALL THAT FUCKING EAT THAT SHIT.

[The_Canadian]

haha...




i think the wii molested our canadian friend here.



i think in this generation of video games... if you are a gamer that plays the wii, then you remember and understand what videogames were, and continue the tradition of what made those games fun, and continue that in wii games.

xbox360 and ps3 generally base there games on impression and intense competition, which is an intirely different breed of gaming then what was.

i play both because im cool enough to not need to induce stupid threads like this because i dislike something.



FUCK SPINACH ITS FUCKING GROSS, I MEAN GREEN? FUCKING SHIT, THE FUCKING ONION IS SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER, I MEAN...ITS FUCKING ROUND, NOT THAT SQUESHY PILE OF SHIT LIKE SPINACH, FUCK ALL THAT FUCKING EAT THAT SHIT.
Wii continuing fun games? Seriously, how many times can you play Mario Kart, SSB or Mario Party before they get old? Everytime you pop in the next MK, SSB or MP in your next Nintendo console, do they game feel new and fresh? No, it feels like last consoles game, aka a 2 flush shit repackaged.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Wii continuing fun games? Seriously, how many times can you play Mario Kart, SSB or Mario Party before they get old? Everytime you pop in the next MK, SSB or MP in your next Nintendo console, do they game feel new and fresh? No, it feels like last consoles game, aka a 2 flush shit repackaged.

*cough* FPS's *cough*

[IGneois]

*cough* FPS's *cough*

DUDE THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!





anyone else gonna buy madden 09?, i like the updated art on the box.

[OrangeC]

The Wii is third place, lets just leave it as that. poor graphics, gameplay gets old real fast unless if your a granny and or christian kids.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

The Wii is third place, lets just leave it as that. poor graphics, gameplay gets old real fast unless if your a granny and or christian kids.

What's that have to do with anything? The Playstation 2 dominated the previous generation, and both the XBox and Gamecube were graphically superior.

As for the gameplay: Two of Sony's biggest exclusive franchises are Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy... both of which are questionable when it comes to replay value.

Could it be that people make their own choices in what's good, and what isn't good?

[The_Canadian]

What's that have to do with anything? The Playstation 2 dominated the previous generation, and both the XBox and Gamecube were graphically superior.

As for the gameplay: Two of Sony's biggest exclusive franchises are Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy... both of which are questionable when it comes to replay value.

Could it be that people make their own choices in what's good, and what isn't good?
MGS and FF have less replay value than Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy X and SSB? Are you fucking serious? I got bored of those 3 games in less than one day, becuase they're shallow and are pretty fucking much the exact same thing as the N64 ones.

[PokemonMaster]

MGS and FF have less replay value than Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy X and SSB? Are you fucking serious? I got bored of those 3 games in less than one day, becuase they're shallow and are pretty fucking much the exact same thing as the N64 ones.
I don't think anyone but die-hard PS3 fanboys are gonna agree with you on that one, bra. MGS (From what I've seen) has only career and online. So the only "replay" value is online play. FF (Depending on which one, but the only next-gen one I've played is...11 I think.) is only online play. Now for the Wii. Mario Kart is a game you beat career on, play with all your friends, and has kick-ass online play. Same with SSB. Galaxy I wouldn't know.

The main PS3 Titles do NOT have nearly the replay value of most Wii games.

[EVO_9MR]

Mario Kart has replay value if you have the mental capacity of a 5 year old. Normal people would get bored within an hour. Career mode in metal gear solid? Are we talking about the same game here? Or did you just confirm that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

MGS4 having no replay value? How bout this list of things you can do after you beat the game:

Facepaint
Different face paint unlocked for in game use.
Unlockable How to Unlock
FaceCamo Defeat the Battle Beauty Laughing Octopus (the overall battle, no specifics involved).
Laughing Octopus Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Laughing Octopus by non-lethal means.
Raging Raven Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Raging Raven by non-lethal means.
Crying Wolf Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Crying Wolf by non-lethal means.
Screaming Mantis Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Screaming Mantis by non-lethal means.
Roy Campbell Ram Colonel Campbell using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Otacon Ram Dr. Emmerich using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Raiden Mask A Ram Sunny using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Raiden Mask B Ram Dr. Naomi Hunter using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Drebin Purchase and keep more than 60 different weapons.
Big Boss's Earn the Big Boss emblem on a single-player session
Young Snake Beat Act 2
Young Snake with Bandana Beat Act 2
Classic MGS Snake Beat Act 3
Corpse Camo Get 41 continues or more in a single playthrough to unlock this octocamo.
iPod Tunes
Snake's iPod can download specific tunes throughout the course of the game. Some songs have an additional "secret" effect when it is played in the game.
Unlockable How to Unlock
Beyond the Bounds (increases stun damage done by Snake from non-lethal weapons) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Tank Hangar. After power is restored, backtrack to the upper catwalk and explore all rooms
Big Boss (increase stun damage and increases Snake's accuracy when played) Earn the Big Boss emblem
Bio-hazard (cause soldiers held by Snake to scream in terror) Stage 3 Europe, Midtown
Destiny's Call (cause soldiers held by Snake to go enraged) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Flowing Destiny (cause soldiers held by Snake to weep like a little girl) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Canyon. Before leaving the canyon area, examine the rocky walls for a hole hiding this item
Fury, The (cause soldiers held by Snake to go enraged) Stage 2 South America, Cove Valley Village. Inside the fire ravaged house
MGS 4 Love Theme / Action (cause soldiers held by Snake to weep like a little girl) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Opening - Old L.A. 2040 (increase Snake's accuracy) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Nuclear Warhead Storage B2. Input 78925 into Otacon's lab computer
Policenaughts Ending (cause soldiers held by Snake to fall asleep on touch) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Nuclear Warhead Storage B2. Input 13462 into Otacon's lab computer
Rock Me (increases Snake's amount of life recovered from items and other means) Stage 2 South America, Confinement Facility. Island in the south-eastern quadrant
Sailor (increases Snake's amount of life recovered from items and other means) Stage 2 South America, Vista Mansion. Between the east wall and a cargo container
Show Time (cause soldiers held by Snake to scream in terror) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Snake Eater (increase the life recovery rate of Snake through items and other actions) Unlocked by earning all 40 game clear emblems
Subsistence (increase Snake's accuracy) Play at least one game of Metal Gear Online. You must start the match with at least two players
Bonus Weapons
Unlockable How to Unlock
World War I Pistol Earn the Hound emblem on a single-player session
Desert Eagle, Long Barrel Earn the Fox emblem on a single-player session
Thor 45-70 Earn the Fox Hound emblem on a single-player session
Patriot Future Assault Weapon Earn the Big Boss emblem on a single-player session
Race (Ricochet) Gun Clear the single-player game once
Solar Gun Collect the five statues (those of the four Battle Beauties and the Frog Soldier/Haven Troopers in stage 1) using non-lethal means on their respective idols
Scanning Plug S Log more than 10 hours of Metal Gear Online play time on the same profile as your Metal Gear 4 game. You purchase this from Drebin
Digital Camera In the Nomad vehicle during the mission intermission; you can unlock a special photo by picking up this item in stage 4 instead of earlier
Stealth Item Complete a single-player session without instigating a single alert (caution is okay, but not alert). You can do this on any difficulty
Bandanna Complete a single-player session without killing anyone (including bosses). You can do this on any difficulty
Rail Gun Beat Crying Wolf
MGL-140 Grenade Launcer Beat Raging Raven
Mantis and Sorrow Dolls Beat Screaming Mantis
Mk. 23 Handgun Found in the first area of Act 4
Completion Unlockables
Unlockable How to Unlock
New combat vests Clear the single-player game once
The Boss Extreme difficulty Complete the single-player mode once (and saving the cleared data).
Costumes
Unlockable How to Unlock
Suit Clear the game once
Civilian Disguise Start Eastern Europe level
Middle East Militia Disguise Middle East in the Militia Safe House
South American Rebel Disguise South America (Cove Valley Village)
Altair Obtain the Assassin emblem
New Ammo
After finishing the game once, and getting back to drebin you can buy:
Unlockable How to Unlock
Emotive ammo (laughter) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (scream) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (rage) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (cry) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (red) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (yellow) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (green) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (blue) Finish game once
Unlockable Emblems
Unlocking emblems gives you various bonus content.
Unlockable How to Unlock
Assassin's Emblem Beat the game with 50+ knife kills, 50+ CQC holds, and 25 or less alerts.
Big Boss Emblem Beat the game on the highest difficulty with no deaths, no alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 5 hours.
Fox Hound Emblem Beat the game on hard or higher w/ no deaths, 3 or less alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 5.5 hours.
Fox Emblem Beat the game on normal or higher w/ no deaths, 5 or less alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 6 hours.
Hound Emblem Beat the game on hard or higher w/ no deaths, 3 or less alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 6.5 hours.
Rabbit Emblem Look at 100 Playboy pages
Little Gray Emblem Collect all 69 weapons
Lobster Emblem Spend a total of 2.5 hours crouching
Hyena Emblem Pick up 400 dropped weapons
Inch Worm Emblem Crawl on the ground for a total of 1 hour
Hog Emblem Get 10 combat highs
Hawk Emblem Be admired by 25 friendly soldiers
Gibbon Emblem Hold up 50 enemies
Giant Panda Emblem Complete the game after 30 cumulative hours of play
Eagle Emblem Get 150 headshots
Frog Emblem Dive or roll 200 times
Gecko Emblem Press against walls for a total of 1 hour
Blue Bird Emblem Give friendly soldiers 50 items
Bee Emblem Use the Scanning Plug S or Syringe on 50 enemies
Bear Emblem Choke 100 enemies to death
Ant Emblem Shake 50 enemies for items
Mantis Finish the game with no alerts activated, no continues, no rations, noodles or regains used and in under 5 hours
Wolf Beat the game with no continues and no rations, regains, or noodles used
Pigeon Beat the game without killing asingle person (Gekkos and Dwarf Gekkos dont count).
Raven Beat the game in under 5 hours
Octopus Beat the game without activating any alert phases.
Tortoise Spend more than 60 minutes inside the drum can or card board box (this can be done throughout the game, not all at once)
Pig Use more than 50 recovery items
Cow Activate over 100 alerts
Crocodile Have over 400 kills
Scarab Perform over 100 rolls
Scorpion Get less than 75 alert Phases, less than 250 kills, and less than 25 continues.
Tarantula Get less than 75 alert phases, over 250 kills, and less than 25 continues.
Centipede Get less than 75 alert phases, less than 250 kills, and over 25 continues.
Spider Get less than 75 alert phases, over 250 kills, and over 25 continues.
Jaguar Get over 75 alert phases, less than 250 kills, and less than 25 continues.
Panther Get over 75 alert phases, over 250 kills, and less than 25 coninues.
Leopard Get over 75 alert phases, less than 250 kills, and over 25 continues.
Puma Get over 75 alert phases, over 250 kills, and over 25 continues.
Chicken Get over 150 alert phases, over 500 kills, over 50 continues, use over 50 recovery items and finish the game in over 35 hours.

With a name like PokemonMaster, it's probably no surprise kiddy Wii games appeal to you

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Mario Kart has replay value if you have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

Or if you like to have fun.

Normal people would get bored within an hour.

Well, that's quite a claim there. I'd like to see a study on that. Link?


MGS4 having no replay value? How bout this list of things you can do after you beat the game:

Personally, I was just assuming it was similar to the previous titles. I tried to play both of the first two a second time for some of the unlockables, but got bored too quickly.

And Final Fantasy... pff. That series jumped the shark quite a while ago.

[potatopaper]

The Canadian before he bought a 360: lol faggots 360 sux ps3 ftw!
The Canadian when he bought a 360: omg this is fucking awesome! wii sux!!

[EVO_9MR]

Or if you like to have fun

unfortunately, your taste in fun is the same as my 8 year old nephew's. 23 year old men still find Wrestling fun to watch, does that mean its actually "fun"? Or are there exceptions.

Well, that's quite a claim there. I'd like to see a study on that. Link?

Need I post one? It really says something when you're playing the same game as an 8 year old kid, and not getting bored.

Personally, i did have fun playing those games on the N64, but i was a kid then, those games are pretty fuckin boring to play now. I went to my friends' house for his birthday and i had to leave the house because i got so bored, the only console there was the wii.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

unfortunately, your taste in fun is the same as my 8 year old nephew's. 23 year old men still find Wrestling fun to watch, does that mean its actually "fun"? Or are there exceptions.

So, because your nephew can enjoy the same game I can, that's unfortunate? My two year old son has a blast playing Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, does that mean the game is designed for kids as well?

Let me introduce you to an extremely intelligent and mature community.

http://forums.penny-arcade.com

You'll find that they also have a love for games that are good, regardless of the perceived "maturity" of the game. Things like Super Monkey Ball, which is insanely difficult, has lots of love there. So does Cave Story.

Need I post one? It really says something when you're playing the same game as an 8 year old kid, and not getting bored.

I agree. It just means that the game is good.

Personally, i did have fun playing those games on the N64, but i was a kid then, those games are pretty fuckin boring to play now.

You sound fickle. The games are just as good as they were then. You've lost interest in them for your own reasons. If you think it's because you're growing up, you're probably wrong. It's probably because you have trouble accepting games that are below your current standards in graphical quality, or technological complexity.

Remember, better graphics and better technology =/= a better game. I could provide examples, but it doesn't require too much imagination to figure out what I'm saying.

I went to my friends' house for his birthday and i had to leave the house because i got so bored, the only console there was the wii.

So, you're a bad friend than?

You're trying to attack my level of maturity when you can't even show a bit of decency by hanging out with a friend at a party because you got bored? Seriously? Seems to me that your perspectives are horribly skewed.

Guess what? I enjoy playing peek-a-boo, a mere toddler's game, with my son. The game is considered to be one of the most immature games to play with anyone, but I have fun doing it. I also enjoy building things with blocks, shooting each other with squirt guns, and drawing on the sidewalks with chalk. Does that mean I'm immature? Or does it mean that I can enjoy things easier because I'm willing to see the fun in them?

[amputechture]

I don't get why people tend to rip apart videogame consoles. You look like a fucking retard. Theyre videogames, its not the end of the world.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I don't get why people tend to rip apart videogame consoles. You look like a fucking retard. Theyre videogames, its not the end of the world.

Well, the nihilist view could be taken on anything, even murder and rape.

[PokemonMaster]

With a name like PokemonMaster, it's probably no surprise kiddy Wii games appeal to you

With a name like EVO_9MR, it's no surprise to me you don't enjoy the Wii, because you're probably a ~20ish year old male, exactly who the Wii WASN'T targeted towards.

[ChocoChipCamo]

MGS4 having no replay value? How bout this list of things you can do after you beat the game:

Arghhh...Dammit EVO! Why did you have to post that list so that I could read it at work; away from the PS3 T_T. I got so antsy reading all those things I still have yet to unlock. I hear there's an old rifle you can unlock that shoots hurricanes out of it. HURRICANES, for gawd's sake!

Here it is http://youtube.com/watch?v=s8NsXFvGsLI

Fucking Awesome.

[EVO_9MR]

Arghhh...Dammit EVO! Why did you have to post that list so that I could read it at work; away from the PS3 T_T. I got so antsy reading all those things I still have yet to unlock. I hear there's an old rifle you can unlock that shoots hurricanes out of it. HURRICANES, for gawd's sake!

Here it is http://youtube.com/watch?v=s8NsXFvGsLI

Fucking Awesome.

lol holy shit, that's the gun that costs like a million Drebin points. I thought it would shoot out buckshot, but a hurricane?! That's what i love about MGS

[potatopaper]

Yeah, it's awesome but it takes about 10 seconds to reload.

[Orakar]

Your opinion is noted.

Why should you care if you don't like something? If other people do, then fair play to them!

Sounds awfully like you bought a Wii and you're pissed off that you don't like it and want to vent.

[IGneois]

haha.... i guess people just like to bash shit. since every game on a console has to be great, seriously, i have a list of more games on the wii that are fun than i do on the 360. why? the fact that nintendo makes very good first-party games, and shit fuck me in the ass for liking the sort of games that i liked 15 years ago, fuck fuck fuck fuck me.

but i also like many games on 360, but when a better game comes out for the 360 , ill put down the games im playing now for it. but its still fun.


damn you guys need to learn how to have fun, if you played any video games last gen then you are all a bunch of 8 year olds or grandmas.

[Toretto]

A games developer once said, and I quote: the Wii is not a games console, it's a toy you buy for your kids".

Needless to say, he wasn't really awed by the Wii :bigwink:

[The_Canadian]

You sound fickle. The games are just as good as they were then. You've lost interest in them for your own reasons. If you think it's because you're growing up, you're probably wrong. It's probably because you have trouble accepting games that are below your current standards in graphical quality, or technological complexity.
You fucking wiitard. Sure, Super Mario was a good game, but if you busted it out today you would be bored to fuck. It's because if you look at Super Mario and then the games available today, Super Mario is nothing.

With a name like EVO_9MR, it's no surprise to me you don't enjoy the Wii, because you're probably a ~20ish year old male, exactly who the Wii WASN'T targeted towards.

Right, because the Wii is targeted towards fetuses to 10 year olds, the poor, 80 to dead and dmubfucks. Anyone with half a brain doesn't own a Wii and does not fall into any of those categories.

[Suspiria]

MGS4 having no replay value? How bout this list of things you can do after you beat the game:

Facepaint
Different face paint unlocked for in game use.


hahahahahahhahaha am i the only one who finds this funny? you try to defend this game as having great unlockables and the first few are fucking facepaint? hahaha what queer wants to play a game for hours on end to unlock makeup for their character?

most of the unlockables are weak as shit, different colored smoke bombs? woooow got my attention now

most wii games have awesome unlockable like lots of characters. maybe im old school but id rather have new characters than facepaint and different colored smoke bombs and that kinda shit. A hurricane gun? thats the dumbest shit ive ever seen, way to bite the gravity gun mgs4

having access to all 3 systems i say the wii gives me the most fun and the xbox 360 and ps3 are fun but are basically clones of one another and are seriously lacking games that appeal to me.

edit: super mario is fun as fuck still. my buddy bought it on his wii and we went through that shit in a couple of days and had a blast

[Prince_Vegeta]

The Wii has never really appealed to me. Clearly designed for people not too serious with their gaming. More of a party piece than a console.

I am seriously pissed off that Monster Hunter 3 will be, as far as I know, a Wii exclusive. I'm not a Sony fanboy by any means, but I have wasted countless hours on my PSP with the franchise and thats the way I likes it.

Fucking Japs. :mad:

[PokemonMaster]

You fucking wiitard. Sure, Super Mario was a good game, but if you busted it out today you would be bored to fuck. It's because if you look at Super Mario and then the games available today, Super Mario is nothing.


Right, because the Wii is targeted towards fetuses to 10 year olds, the poor, 80 to dead and dmubfucks. Anyone with half a brain doesn't own a Wii and does not fall into any of those categories.

For your first paragraph, you proved his fucking point you idiot. It's still one of the greatest games ever in my (and a lot of other peoples' opinions) it's just incompetent morons like you that can't comprehend that people who say the game suck do so only because of the out-of-date graphics. "If you look at Super Mario and then the games available today" Super Mario had kick-ass graphics for it's time, but that was a long time ago, thus, you are fucking retarded.

Second, you exaggerate to the extreme. The Wii is targeted at 5-12 year olds, and 60+ seniors. You're really fucking stupid.

The Wii has never really appealed to me. Clearly designed for people not too serious with their gaming. More of a party piece than a console.


Exactly. 5 - 12 year olds are not too serious with their gaming, nor or elderly.
And again, your second sentence is true.

[amputechture]

Regardless, I love Wii. ^^;

[The_Canadian]

For your first paragraph, you proved his fucking point you idiot. It's still one of the greatest games ever in my (and a lot of other peoples' opinions) it's just incompetent morons like you that can't comprehend that people who say the game suck do so only because of the out-of-date graphics. "If you look at Super Mario and then the games available today" Super Mario had kick-ass graphics for it's time, but that was a long time ago, thus, you are fucking retarded.

Second, you exaggerate to the extreme. The Wii is targeted at 5-12 year olds, and 60+ seniors. You're really fucking stupid.



Exactly. 5 - 12 year olds are not too serious with their gaming, nor or elderly.
And again, your second sentence is true.
When I said look, I don't mean it literally dumbfuck. I mean, play Crysis or whatever and then play Super Mario. You'll immediately go back to the other game because Super Mario is NOTHING COMPARED TO TODAYS GAMES!

[IGneois]

You fucking wiitard. Sure, Super Mario was a good game, but if you busted it out today you would be bored to fuck. It's because if you look at Super Mario and then the games available today, Super Mario is nothing.


Right, because the Wii is targeted towards fetuses to 10 year olds, the poor, 80 to dead and dmubfucks. Anyone with half a brain doesn't own a Wii and does not fall into any of those categories.



age now, comeon give it to me.


it has to be 14-16

[hipocritical]

When I said look, I don't mean it literally dumbfuck. I mean, play Crysis or whatever and then play Super Mario. You'll immediately go back to the other game because Super Mario is NOTHING COMPARED TO TODAYS GAMES!

I have a 360 and I still play N64 games and NES games more.

We've got 2 systems fighting over who's got better graphics, more power deeper more "adult" games. Why do we need a third to try and compete?!? Clearly whoever is bashing the wii is not looking for what it offers in a system. Based on sales records there are enough people that are. Why do we need 3 similar systems, don't you think it's a good idea exposing video games to a wider array of people?
So people should shut the fuck up and go back to arguing over which of the two cookie cutter systems are better.

[elliott678]

When I said look, I don't mean it literally dumbfuck. I mean, play Crysis or whatever and then play Super Mario. You'll immediately go back to the other game because Super Mario is NOTHING COMPARED TO TODAYS GAMES!
It is the exact opposite for me, give me the latest FPS and I'm bored in 15 minutes. My SNES is hooked up right now though, I've been playing Donkey Kong Country, Star Fox, Kirby Super Star and Super Mario World quite a bit lately.

[IGneois]

When I said look, I don't mean it literally dumbfuck. I mean, play Crysis or whatever and then play Super Mario. You'll immediately go back to the other game because Super Mario is NOTHING COMPARED TO TODAYS GAMES!

haha..you have to actually play these games you are comparing to crysis. which sucks btw

[ZeroTigerX]

By all means Wii owners, have fun with your expansive library of top notch games.

[Suspiria]

By all means Wii owners, have fun with your expansive library of top notch games.

do the same with your 360 and or ps3 :lol:

[IGneois]

By all means Wii owners, have fun with your expansive library of top notch games.

360 and wii have the same number of titles i play respectfully, halo3 and brawl being about equal, then it just trickles down from there.

each console has a lot of duds, and the wii has TONS, but those games arent made by NINTENDO , which is a company i respect and enjoy.

but really i play my 360 for the competitiveness and my wii when i just want to play a game for an hour or so, it has many great titles too.

[ZeroTigerX]

360 and wii have the same number of titles i play respectfully, halo3 and brawl being about equal, then it just trickles down from there.

each console has a lot of duds, and the wii has TONS, but those games arent made by NINTENDO , which is a company i respect and enjoy.

but really i play my 360 for the competitiveness and my wii when i just want to play a game for an hour or so, it has many great titles too.

/thread

qft

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

When I said look, I don't mean it literally dumbfuck. I mean, play Crysis or whatever and then play Super Mario. You'll immediately go back to the other game because Super Mario is NOTHING COMPARED TO TODAYS GAMES!

Todays games would be nothing without Super Mario Brothers.

Crysis should learn to respect it's elders.

[EVO_9MR]

i'm gonna have to switch sides here. I don't particularly have fun with gimmick using wii games, but SNES and NES games like Super Mario Brothers are classics, they don't need graphics in order to be fun.

[hellnback]

where i live we call the wii "the mexican's choice of gaming". it's the cheapest of the consoles and it's the reason they buy it. especially the ones that buy up all the wii's and then go and sell it over the border for more. they sell them to the rich mexican's (yes there's rich mexicans) who can't find them over there. we have a rule at work that only one wii can be sold per customer...so what do they do, they bring all their family to sit outside the store before opening. i swear they're all just standing outside in line just waiting to run into the store and snab some wii's. hell i swear i even saw a donkey out there along with some little kids selling chiclets, those square stupid gums.

and yes i did own a wii once but i never played it. it just sat there and i eventually shoved it into the closet. i eventually sold it, which was the right thing to do. the wii is nothing more than an updated version of the power glove. stupid glove never really did work properly.

[cornguy]

The only games i've played on my wii were wii sports and galaxy, but galaxy alone was worth the price of the wii. My nephews have had it at their house most of the time, and they seem to enjoy it. Its more of a kids system.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I'm going to blow a bunch of smoke out of my ass here. I don't really have an opinion at all because I've never even held a Wii controller in my hand while the console's power was on. So I'm going to make some ignorant racial comments bashing a reputable console and a reputable people at the same time.

Long story short, I'm an idiot, and I just wanted you guys to know that.

Well thanks for clearing that up!

[rand0m]

This threads getting a bit stale, time to inject some awsome (http://pirates.randomsociety.com/d3ishere2.gif)

[general809]

I don`t CARE how many times I swear! This is god-damn fucking bullshit!!! Somebody get an administrator in here and get this guy of the forums!

[rand0m]

ahahhahahahha

[The_Canadian]

I seriously didn't expect to see this thread again...

[bonenator]

wii is a blast

[Gloaming15]

wii is a blast for about half an hour

oh hai i fixed ur post

[BassGuitar25]

Alright... Who the fuck is putting down the NES and SNES?

I have both and they're fun as hell.

I don't own a Wii or Gamecube, but games like Eternal Darkness and Resident Evil 0 were fun.

[Gloaming15]

Alright... Who the fuck is putting down the NES and SNES?

I have both and they're fun as hell.

Hell YES, I need sum E.V.O. now! That's sum kickass gaming

[Total Madman]

wii is a blast

That's the most un-boss thing you've ever said, and you say some stupid shit.

[Orakar]

I think to appreciate the Wii, you have to forget that it's labeled as a games console. Just imagine it's a piece of technology. It DOES have a purpose, and it does it well. Kids, parents and grandmas love it. Anyone who isn't a hardcore gamer loves it.

It's an entertainment system, but not a gaming console. IMO.

[/Tilt/]

I really think that the Wii is so different than the 360 or PS3. That's why I own both a Wii and a PS3. Best of both worlds sort of deal.

[handsock]

They are all good in their own ways, and bad in their own ways. It's all about preferrence. I'd prefer to have all 3 but I cannot due to shitty U.S. economy. Apparently the stock market is failing too now. Hooray!

[appleb]

The last game I bought for Wii was the craptacular Super Smash Brawl, which I stopped playing after 3 days because the online component was complete crap. I don't even remember what game I bought before that, it's been so long.

There's a Zelda Twilight Princess exploit to install free virtual console games, but I haven't even bothered trying that yet.

[rand0m]

They are all good in their own ways, and bad in their own ways. It's all about preferrence. I'd prefer to have all 3 but I cannot due to shitty U.S. economy. Apparently the stock market is failing too now. Hooray!

hahha your poor

[dextersmom]

I seriously didn't expect to see this thread again...

hah this is small time...that queer fanboy ignosis or whatever resurrected a wii argument we had in early january. leme be fair some first poster resurrected it and I simply stated i still feel the same.

the wii was successful in that it tricked a ton of children and old people and people in between into buying the console. the people who wanted substance in their games realized quick that they wouldn't be having that with their wii and promply sold it to invest in a pstripple or xbox.

the wii doesn't even have hd capability!?!?! oooo its got a dual side disc reader!!!!! I JUST CAME INNOVATION ALL OVER THE PLACE

[Knocc Out]

lol consoles

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

hahha your poor

Whose poor?

His?

[rand0m]

Whose poor?

His?

Hi there. You looking for some money? WELL I'M NOT GIVING YOU ANY.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I just want to know what a "poor" is. I've never heard of an object called a "poor". I've heard of objects being poor, but never anything actually called a "poor".

[rand0m]

Go get a job or something

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

I'm at work. =D

[dextersmom]

can i have a dollar rand0m?

[rand0m]

can i have a dollar rand0m?

Only if i can tape it to the end of my foot and kick you with it.

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

He doesn't have any dollars.

[dextersmom]

He doesn't have any dollars.

fuck you wii fan boy.

umm sure rand0m you can kick me with it but it depends where.....

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

fuck you wii fan boy.

umm sure rand0m you can kick me with it but it depends where.....

He literally doesn't have any dollars.

[USB]

I just want to know what a "poor" is. I've never heard of an object called a "poor". I've heard of objects being poor, but never anything actually called a "poor".

wait, you don't know what poor means?

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

Only as an adjective, not as a noun.

[YOUNGSTUNNA]

YouTube - Disaster: Day of Crisis - new video 1

YouTube - Mad World - Trailer (08-20-2008)

YouTube - The Conduit for Nintendo Wii
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[The_Canadian]

is Soulja Boys chatroom down?

[SyDias]

The Wii is just as stupid and pointless as this thread, but it does not negate the fact that more than half of you went out and purchased or received one as a gift. :)

[davo canavo]

It really isn't that bad lol. I mean, yeah, it's gimmicky, but every time my group of friends chills at my buddy's house (who has a wii, obviously) it's fun as hell. Wii Sports and Mario Party 4 player come to mind. As well as RE4. That game's bomb as hell.

P.S. Quitchyur bitch.

[PsiRedEye22]

It really isn't that bad lol. I mean, yeah, it's gimmicky, but every time my group of friends chills at my buddy's house (who has a wii, obviously) it's fun as hell. Wii Sports and Mario Party 4 player come to mind. As well as RE4. That game's bomb as hell.

P.S. Quitchyur bitch.

Yeah, well most people here don't have friends.

[IGneois]

Most people here hit refresh for hours so they can continue to bitch about shit people own that they dont.