According to California, the US has 53 states now

[Asbestos Crayon]

It's not just California. It's every where. Errors in text books are more than a problem than most people realize. I've seen them over the past 10 years and from addition to addition they go un-corrected.

If you have kids, you may want to take a look at their text book.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/08/09/private.school.invest.ap/index.html

[Jay-Z]

Are those mistakes on purpose or what? I don't see how they can all jsut be a mistake

[Chewy]

Another reason supporting socialized education

[Asbestos Crayon]

Chewy, its that way in our public schools too. Socialization has nothing to do with it. Being a good text book editor does.

[MGselwonK]

this isnt news, this is a stupid private school fucking around with immigrants

[sparrky]

come on let em have a little fun eh? whats wrong with a immagrant who has a high school diploma but thinks theres 53 states? nothing thats just good fun.

[Chewy]

come on let em have a little fun eh? whats wrong with a immagrant who has a high school diploma but thinks theres 53 states? nothing thats just good fun. Like an inside joke right.... :o

[brainkandy87]

So, the other 3 are Puerto Rico, Mexico, and Canada? :p

[Jay-Z]

So, the other 3 are Puerto Rico, Mexico, and Canada? :p

No no, its Puerto Rico, Guam, and France

[Chewy]

No no, its Puerto Rico, Guam, and France
look its about time you guys split up Texas or Alaska, they are just too big.

[dead]

It's not just California. It's every where. Errors in text books are more than a problem than most people realize. I've seen them over the past 10 years and from addition to addition they go un-corrected.

If you have kids, you may want to take a look at their text book.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/08/09/private.school.invest.ap/index.html
by who are those text books written how the hell can you have the years for ww2 wrong it wasn't a typo.
it's a fact that ww2 could ended a year sooner if the bomb in the bunker had killed hitler in 1944.
but how did they get the year 1942 they didn't even did a google. when you type ww2 in google you get tonnes of sites with the good years.
just another case of brainwashing.



There are two houses of Congress -- the Senate and the House, and "one is for Democrats and the other is for the Republicans, respectively."
and this they want look it like you can only choose for the democrats or republicans lol.
the nwo really fucks up they are so bad in covering the lies they have made ;)

[Chewy]

just another case of brainwashing.
Brainwahing what?? DEad you kill me. Sometimes things are just stupid not everything stupid has to do with FEMA..

[dead]

Brainwahing what?? DEad you kill me. Sometimes things are just stupid not everything stupid has to do with FEMA..
i didn't mention fema i am mentioning the nwo and yes the brainwashing is done by tv,advertising and radio
fema is only here to control america after martial law has been invoked.
here look for yourself iff you are brainwashed
http://www.geocities.com/covertmatrix/brainwashed.html

[unbeltedjoker]

well taht is fucking stupid...who the hell would just overlook something like that....thats why in canada we have 1 leaf...alot ezier....ahahaa

[puppyroach]

i didn't mention fema i am mentioning the nwo and yes the brainwashing is done by tv,advertising and radio
fema is only here to control america after martial law has been invoked.
here look for yourself iff you are brainwashed
http://www.geocities.com/covertmatrix/brainwashed.html

I´m sorry, but all those links you put up, they all seem to try and brainwash people, just as you say the NWO are doing, only they are a bit clumsier. They use the exact method governments use to portray their enemy, creating fear and disorder... so sorry dead, i think these people trying to create enlightenment, are actually doing the exact opposite, imo the´re not any better than the governments...

And as for the real issue, that was kinda funny... why can´t you claim some country like China? Then there would be some action atleast...:)

[dead]

I´m sorry, but all those links you put up, they all seem to try and brainwash people, just as you say the NWO are doing, only they are a bit clumsier. They use the exact method governments use to portray their enemy, creating fear and disorder... so sorry dead, i think these people trying to create enlightenment, are actually doing the exact opposite, imo the´re not any better than the governments...

And as for the real issue, that was kinda funny... why can´t you claim some country like China? Then there would be some action atleast...:)
lol you don't even know how many facts i have about this subject i know my latest link was only text bassed but i have many visual evidence that points to the fact that there is mayor
and the poeple who are releasing the evidence don't create fear and dissorder
do we say kill bush kill kerry.
that the truth is scary that's a other point but there is a lot off evidence
there are now a whole load off videos on the p2p networks telling the truth to the poeple.
some poeple tell the facts relax and some do get excited in their videos but you must look past that and look at the facts that are presented by the person
i have posted some videos here :
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?p=309027#post309027

[MalteseFalcon]

lol you don't even know how many facts i have about this subject i know my latest link was only text bassed but i have many visual evidence that points to the fact that there is mayor
and the poeple who are releasing the evidence don't create fear and dissorder
do we say kill bush kill kerry.
that the truth is scary that's a other point but there is a lot off evidence
there are now a whole load off videos on the p2p networks telling the truth to the poeple.
some poeple tell the facts relax and some do get excited in their videos but you must look past that and look at the facts that are presented by the person
i have posted some videos here :
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?p=309027#post309027

What does this have to do with the original post? This post was about a "diploma mill" (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0809041cahs1.html) taking advantage of immigrants who can barely speak English. The whole thing was a scam perpetrated by immigrants and targeted towards immigrants.

How did this thread turn into a ridicuas conspiracy theory?

[daveo the great]

ok the guy who set up the "school" was not liscensed... it was basically a scam. the guy was probably some really ignorant "immoral" (thas why he got fired from community college) guy who wanted to make alot of money of a bunch of stupid ppl..

[MalteseFalcon]

ok the guy who set up the "school" was not liscensed... it was basically a scam. the guy was probably some really ignorant "immoral" (thas why he got fired from community college) guy who wanted to make alot of money of a bunch of stupid ppl..

Not stupid people just ignorant. Everybody has been a victim of their own ignorance at one point in life. It is usually the earliest point.

Not ignorant "immoral" guy just stupid.

[Asbestos Crayon]

God, don't you people read before posting?

This case is not just linked to a single school in California. It happens in schools every where because 1. teacher isn't worth a shit, and 2. error in the text book.

Here is an example of one I found last night while looking up excitonic energy. Kitel lists the formula for calculating the energy. I ran the calculation for 5 hours trying to figure out why I was getting an order of -54 instead of -2. I checked units, constants, variations of the formula and couldn't find anything. I kept on noticing the units the formula produced were not energy though. I just happened at that time to see that the Hydrogen ground state energy resembled this formula, so I substituted it and made an approximation and wala. The number came out equal to what has been published for the material I was looking at. No where in several text was this substitution mentioned. And from my experience what has happened is the author of the text didn't know how to do the calculation and just took it for granted his predicesor knew how to do the calculation. I even found publications in phys rev and phys letters with this done this way. There was no way in hell their numbers worked out with this formula without the approximation.

Hell, I even helped a professor do an editing on a undergrad text book a couple of years back and the terminology they used sounded like a pre-schooler. They were calling sparks, shocks and basically went against all convention. My comment to the editor was to quit trying to sound original and follow conventional terminology.

Now as for history. Hell, I remember about six years ago California posted errors they found in the state's texts. They had the US fighting the Japanese in the Korean war. The vietmese were fighting the chinese. Hell, it was a mess. I am trying to find a link to that so bare with me.

But untill then read the posts before you write. It's annoying.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/scienceerrors010115.html

http://washingtontimes.com/specialreport/20040328-125027-5592r.htm

[bubbles]

It's not just California. It's every where. Errors in text books are more than a problem than most people realize. I've seen them over the past 10 years and from addition to addition they go un-corrected.

The article you cite is about one private school in California, but your thread title suggests that the entire state education system is involved. Why do you feel the need to create a false impression regarding this issue? Do you despise the public education system in California? If so, why?

[bubbles]

Chewy, its that way in our public schools too. Socialization has nothing to do with it. Being a good text book editor does.
The article you posted has nothing to do with editors. It is about one private school that was cheating it's patrons. Perhaps you could correct the misleading title of this thread.

You say this problem is occuring in our public schools, too; please post the relevant articles that would support this curious claim, otherwise I will have to consider your claim to be a fabrication.

[bubbles]

God, don't you people read before posting?
I certainly do. I read a title that suggested that the state of California is teaching it's students that the union has 53 states. Then I read the article you cited. It was about one private school in California that was cheating it's patrons. Then I read your post wherein you state that this problem is wide-spread, yet you offered no sources to support the claim.
Why do you ask?

This case is not just linked to a single school in California. It happens in schools every where because 1. teacher isn't worth a shit, and 2. error in the text book.
Do you have any articles or sources to support this statement, or is this another fantastic fabrication?

Here is an example of one I found last night while looking up excitonic energy. Kitel lists the formula for calculating the energy. I ran the calculation for 5 hours trying to figure out why I was getting an order of -54 instead of -2. I checked units, constants, variations of the formula and couldn't find anything. I kept on noticing the units the formula produced were not energy though. I just happened at that time to see that the Hydrogen ground state energy resembled this formula, so I substituted it and made an approximation and wala. The number came out equal to what has been published for the material I was looking at. No where in several text was this substitution mentioned. And from my experience what has happened is the author of the text didn't know how to do the calculation and just took it for granted his predicesor knew how to do the calculation. I even found publications in phys rev and phys letters with this done this way. There was no way in hell their numbers worked out with this formula without the approximation.
Do you mean Kittel? And solid state physics is hardly the subject matter being taught in public schools. Furthermore, unless you cite the text and page number, I must doubt the veracity of your claim.

Hell, I even helped a professor do an editing on a undergrad text book a couple of years back and the terminology they used sounded like a pre-schooler. They were calling sparks, shocks and basically went against all convention. My comment to the editor was to quit trying to sound original and follow conventional terminology.
Very wise of you. Relevance to the topic of this thread?

Now as for history. Hell, I remember about six years ago California posted errors they found in the state's texts. They had the US fighting the Japanese in the Korean war. The vietmese were fighting the chinese. Hell, it was a mess. I am trying to find a link to that so bare with me.
Sources, please. I will not bear with you.

But untill then read the posts before you write. It's annoying.
Until when? Perhaps you should take your own advice; I would suggest you seek an editor.
And I don't mean to annoy you.

[Asbestos Crayon]

No bubbles, I don't dispise the education in California. I work in education as a professor in physics in Texas. My goal here is just to get people aware that there are problems in the text books. What you see in the link in California is not isolated to California. It is happening all over the US. The advise here is to get involved in your kids education and look at what they are reading. If you do that already, then good. Get your friends to do it.

Umm. as for Kittel, as far as I remember from last night, look in the back, reference "exciton". There is only one section on it. It does mention Rydberg energy, but it does not explain what happened.

Oh, and to give you a warning,
1. Don't spam the threads. There is an edit button for a reason. It's also a forum rule.
2. Don't stock and flame. That's another forum rule. You've only posted in my threads so I am to believe you are doing that right now.

And as for what I say here, I think most normal people can follow. It has been reported in the news in the past for any one with a long enough memory. Oh, and my profeshional credentials are real. I'm not going to give you any more info than that because of security concerns. Now, run back along to your political blogging and play with the rest of the weird people.

[Lestatdelc]

i am mentioning the nwo and yes the brainwashing is done by tv,advertising and radio

Wow.. glad you informed me that wrasslin' was so damn dangerous (http://www.cooldudesandhotbabes.com/nwo2.html)

[bingowashisnamo]

Hey, bubbles. Leave Asbetos Crayon alone. Clearly, he is an educated man, a professor of physics (in Texas, no less!), and not a hater of California's education system, even though the title of this thread is grossly misleading, and he hasn't offered any citations to support his claims.
If you don't like the facts he made-up, then just go post your cogent points elsewhere, and leave us professor-types to talk about quantum physics and such.

How 'bout them black holes, eh?

[Lestatdelc]

So far nothing you have posted follows from the article you cite. Because some fly-by-night scam private "school" uses bogus materials and is a rip-off people, and is being shut down by the State of California, it does not follow that State schools (like those in California) use such bogus text book materials and fraudlent faulty teaching.

My goal here is just to get people aware that there are problems in the text books.

Ones used by the State of California and not the non-sequitor article on scam private fraudlent "schools" using bogus "text books"...?

What you see in the link in California is not isolated to California. It is happening all over the US.

I am sure that there are outfits defrauding people via fly-by-night scam "schools"... what does this have to do with state run schools...?

The advise here is to get involved in your kids education and look at what they are reading.

I am, and do.

Your point?

[Lestatdelc]

How 'bout them black holes, eh?

So you are a racist pervert...?

[bingowashisnamo]

So you are a racist pervert...?
I know you are, but who am I?
;)

[poofykid]

Here's where you can actually look at 11 pages of the work book http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0809041cahs1.html . And yes it is a scam and english is obviously not the first language of the guy who made this school. The guys reportately scammed people out of over a million dollars. This page will give you a better idea than the cnn report although not all the info in the intorduction are definatly true

[Lestatdelc]

I know you are, but who am I?
;)

What was the middle part?

[KEvron]

wow!
i was completely mislead by the title of this thread. the link offers nothing to support the claim.
i feel cheated.

KEvron

[Asbestos Crayon]

Ok, first of all, read the first thread. When a state government gives an accredited degree for passing tests in which such answers are accepted as correct, then that state is recognizing those answers as being correct wether or not they are factual. Hince the title of the thread.

Secondly, the other threads point to this as being a nation wide problem that that can be traced back to text books.

Now, for people that have less than 10 posts to their name with the majority of them being towards my threads, I would have to say one, you are just fly by nighters or you are mutli-subscribing which in turn deserves a site ban. Now which is it? At the least you are breaking forum rules by spamming and will be talked to shortly.

[dead]

Here's where you can actually look at 11 pages of the work book http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0809041cahs1.html . And yes it is a scam and english is obviously not the first language of the guy who made this school. The guys reportately scammed people out of over a million dollars. This page will give you a better idea than the cnn report although not all the info in the intorduction are definatly true
what a shitty test what do i care how many muscles it take to smile i ownly know it takes less muscles to smile than it takes to frown.
lol i also saw that ali g wrote it ali g is just a wacko dutchmen who thinks he is a black gangster.
If ali g wrote that it's pretty good.;)
http://www.vpro.nl/programma/alig/

[Lestatdelc]

Ok, first of all, read the first thread.

I did.

Even though YOU posted it, did YOU read it?

When a state government gives an accredited degree for passing tests in which such answers are accepted as correct, then that state is recognizing those answers as being correct wether or not they are factual.

Ok, apparently you DIDN'T read it because the article clearly states that the "school" in question was NOT accredited, nor were the "diplomas" the "school" issued.

Hince the title of the thread.

Hince?

And you are in education?


PLease tell me which institution you teach at so I can keep anyone I come into contact with from attending such a school.

Secondly, the other threads point to this as being a nation wide problem that that can be traced back to text books.

What "threads" are those?

Nothing in this entire topic shows a singular instance of what you claim.

Now, for people that have less than 10 posts to their name with the majority of them being towards my threads, I would have to say one, you are just fly by nighters or you are mutli-subscribing which in turn deserves a site ban. Now which is it?

I am new (this evening) to this board... and I have so far posted on the first 6 topics at the top of the current events section. Your point?

Bloviate all you like, but you are floundering terribly in making a point and backing it up with facts, evidence or internally consistent logic.

[KEvron]

Ok, first of all, read the first thread.
ok. first of all, i did.

When a state government gives an accredited degree for passing tests in which such answers are accepted as correct, then that state is recognizing those answers as being correct wether or not they are factual. Hince the title of the thread.
the article said it was not an accreditted school, hence my protestations. did you read it?

Secondly, the other threads point to this as being a nation wide problem that that can be traced back to text books.
secondly, what "other threads"?

Now, for people that have less than 10 posts to their name with the majority of them being towards my threads, I would have to say one, you are just fly by nighters or you are mutli-subscribing which in turn deserves a site ban. Now which is it? At the least you are breaking forum rules by spamming and will be talked to shortly.
i don't ask you to welcome me, but how can you not welcome debate? maybe it's because you can't support your claims? i'm just asking.

oh, and you called people on this thread "annoying" and "weirdos", so don't threaten me. i'll report you.

KEvron

[Asbestos Crayon]

Hmmm... well there we have it.

Yes, I did read all THREE of the links. And no, I don't have to dice up a comment and quote on each line. And I am original and don't copy O'Rielly for comeback lines. I am sure you like to watch the Factor quite often.

First link.

Until the judges ordered the school to stop, their diplomas could have been disputed as being acredited. If a state does not take action to enforce a law, then it by default is giving that act acredibility. In this case, a bad diploma.

Second Link.

Errors in text books were accepted by states even though they had knowledge of such errors existing. In some cases the errors were caused by the states themselves demanding changes in text to meet none subject guide lines.

Third Link.

Errors in text books are caused by editors social views. This in turn is changing what was viewed as documented history 30 years ago to being political correct history today. According to your view, it is reversed. Either way, there is not a viable stable subject matter.

I find it odd that something like 5 new people all at once deside to comment in once single thread.

[bingowashisnamo]

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scit...rors010115.html
This article is three and a half years old. Not too current.

http://washingtontimes.com/specialr...25027-5592r.htm
The Washington Times is owned by "Rev." Moon, a right-wing nutjob who claims to be the new messiah, and who has a decidedly skewed view on reality. Hardly a reliable source. The article was replete with religious hyperbole and appeals to Christian tradition, while offering no real cases of errors in school text books.

[bubbles]

Hmmm... well there we have it.
A shot of penicillin should clear "it" up.
;)

Yes, I did read all THREE of the links.
"Three threads" confused me. If you had written "links" in the first place, i would have understood you..

And no, I don't have to dice up a comment and quote on each line.
I do. I address all of your points. I consider it to be the courteous thing to do. Were I to only address a single point of contention, you might claim I was ignoring the entire post, and concentrating on nit-picking.

And I am original and don't copy O'Rielly for comeback lines. I am sure you like to watch the Factor quite often.
So you are "original". Swell. And how does that support the claim made in the title of this thread? So you don't quote O'Lieley, but your other sources are just as dubious.
And Shill O'Lieley is a propagandist douche bag, as are all members of that outfit.

First link.
Until the judges ordered the school to stop, their diplomas could have been disputed as being acredited. If a state does not take action to enforce a law, then it by default is giving that act acredibility. In this case, a bad diploma.
Here's an excerpt from that article. In fact, it's the first line:
California has joined other states in acting against a private school that claimed to award high school diplomas while teaching its immigrant students a curriculum riddled with errors
Note how the first line of the article say the state is "acting against". So you can stop suggesting that the state was complicit in the act. Your ridiculous equivocations do not support the claim you made in the title of this thread.

Second Link.
Errors in text books were accepted by states even though they had knowledge of such errors existing. In some cases the errors were caused by the states themselves demanding changes in text to meet none subject guide lines.
Of course, you didnt offer this link, nor the third, until 2 days later. It was not part of your original contention. Nor does it support your claim that California is teaching it's students about the 53 states in the union; rather, the story seems to concentrate on North Carolina. And this article is 3 1/2 years old, making it irrelevant.

Third Link.
Errors in text books are caused by editors social views. This in turn is changing what was viewed as documented history 30 years ago to being political correct history today. According to your view, it is reversed. Either way, there is not a viable stable subject matter.
The Washington Times is a Sun Myung Moon outfit. I will not accept any articles from that outfit, nor those supported by Rupert Murdoch, nor Richard MELLON Scaife, as factual or relevant.
Here are three "links" for you:
http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain050299.htm
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=122948

I find it odd that something like 5 new people all at once deside to comment in once single thread.
Perhaps they found your thread title to be eggregiously misleading, and took objection to your further obfuscations.
Will you consider changing the title of this thread?

And it's spelled "decide".
But, then, you're a "professor" of physics, not English.