Imus is at it again!

[jagger04]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/23/imus-adam-pacman-jones-co_n_108720.html
A little over a year after being fired for making what were perceived as racist and sexist comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team, Don Imus is courting controversy again over a potentially racist remark made about an athlete.

When sports host Warner Wolf explained that Adam "Pacman" Jones — who was suspended in 2007 following a Last Vegas nightclub shooting incident — had been arrested six times, Imus asked, "What color is he?"

A slightly confused Wolf responded, "He's African American."

Imus then said, "Well, there you go. Now we know."




:lmao:

i am lost for words, but only because i am laughing my ass off.

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[particlephysics]

sounds like emus

[Devastation]

He's got a point, you know...

But seriously, I believe in Freedom of Speech and all, but Imus is pushing the limits of what's acceptable.

The big question is if this happened on broadcast radio or satellite radio.

If broadcast radio, he should be punished, again.

If satellite, then he's free to say what he wants.

[Shameless]

I-muuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!

[jagger04]

He's got a point, you know...

But seriously, I believe in Freedom of Speech and all, but Imus is pushing the limits of what's acceptable.

The big question is if this happened on broadcast radio or satellite radio.

If broadcast radio, he should be punished, again.

If satellite, then he's free to say what he wants.

yea if it is broadcast radio, he'll be fired. no question about it given his history.

but at least he said it. people are too scared to say anything offensive these days. it shows that he has pretty big balls.

[Stu Pidasole]

Let's see if I get this.

American Don Imus makes a comment and it's a big deal.

I get it, free speech doesn't apply to American Don Imus.

Why is this even a Current Event?

[jagger04]

Let's see if I get this.

American Don Imus makes a comment and it's a big deal.

I get it, free speech doesn't apply to American Don Imus.

Why is this even a Current Event?

because it is an event (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/EVENT) that is happening currently (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/currently)



on a side note, the word of the day, for the 23rd, anyway, is capacious (http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/)

[Mojoe77]

You know, what Imus said is just stupid. He was given a second chance now he's fucking himself over again.

I'm gonna rant real quick, so if you wanna ignore this, so be it: I listen to a lot of sports radio and when the Michael Vick thing was going on a lot of people (black, white, hispanic, asian) were calling in and saying that the MSM is racist because they always pick on colored people. My point is: look who is getting into trouble. I don't see Payton Manning or Luke Walton getting pulled over for drunk driving/dog fighting/throwing money on the strip club floor, getting mad, then having an accomplice shoot the place up. Rant over.

[Bo Jackson]

He's just keeps it real, yo.

[Danimal87]

If broadcast radio, he should be punished, again.

If satellite, then he's free to say what he wants.
Shouldn't he be free to say what he wants, regardless of the medium?


Basically, Imus said "go figure" to a black man having a criminal record, which is reasonable seeing as black people commit such a disproportionate amount of crime.

[Devastation]

Personally, I think he should be lauded for having the balls to say that.

I worded my own post wrong. "Should" should be "would".

[Stu Pidasole]

because it is an event (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/EVENT) that is happening currently (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/currently)



on a side note, the word of the day, for the 23rd, anyway, is capacious (http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/)

I guess I wasn't clear, so let me try again.

Why the fuck is it an EVENT, current or not.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

Don Imus can say whatever he wants. This is America, and there is no "right to not be offended" in the Bill.

Of course, liberal/black/PC people are going to jump all over this one.:rolleyes:

[IHateEverything]

Don Imus can say whatever he wants. This is America, and there is no "right to not be offended" in the Bill.

Of course, liberal/black/PC people are going to jump all over this one.:rolleyes:


You totally misunderstand what free speech is. Freedom of speech is the ability to say something like "Pacman Jones is a stupid nigger" and not be arrested by the government. It does not protect you from being fired from a private company, in this case, the radio station Imus works for.

Freedom of speech is freedom from the government silencing your opinions. It is not the freedom to spout off about whatever you want without social consequence.

And I'm not liberal, black, or PC.

[chrisvet]

I guess I wasn't clear, so let me try again.

Why the fuck is it an EVENT, current or not.

Because we're more concerned with 'this' than going into debt Trillians, invading Iran, and flushing our country down the toilet through endless bloated programs / gov't intervention that breeds self entitled dependent mindset victims; and ultimately stupid morons.


*I hate the media, political correctness, and prioritizingly retarded Westerners.*

[GALLIENVS AVG]

You totally misunderstand what free speech is. Freedom of speech is the ability to say something like "Pacman Jones is a stupid nigger" and not be arrested by the government. It does not protect you from being fired from a private company, in this case, the radio station Imus works for.

Freedom of speech is freedom from the government silencing your opinions. It is not the freedom to spout off about whatever you want without social consequence.

And I'm not liberal, black, or PC.

Right, I didn't word my previous post very well. I meant to attack the people crying over this, in this case.

Isn't Imus only going to be fired from his talk show by the radio station because of the public uproar that his statement will cause? People believe they can monitor what other people say and think, which is bullshit. Nowadays, you can lose your job for making a single statement that can possibly be construed as racist because of all the PC nutjobs in this country.

I actually admire Imus, especially since this is the second statement he's made that is going to stir up shit. He's not going to sit back and suppress his voice in order to be PC.

[Methuser]

This is really silly. Yeah what he said was wrong and a little bit racist. But I've heard Howard Stern say similar things. I've heard Michael Weiner/Savage say similar things. So just because Imus this old shitbag has politicians on his show he is suddenly under a microscope? I didn't think the nappy headed hos comment was that big of a deal and this isn't either in my opinion. People say silly shit all the time... so why is Imus being singled out for boycotts and letter campaigns?

[Sketcher]

Why would anyone who would be offended by such a comment still be listening to him anyway after the last incident? If you don't like what he's saying, turn your fucking radio station.

[SmokedYaNerd]

I see no one read the OTHER half of the story.

Imus said he was referring to how black people get picked on. I've listened to it twice now and either he meant it, or it was a really good cover up. I can't imagine him being stupid enough to mean that black people are criminals, although it is possible.

[evilmittens]

I see no one read the OTHER half of the story.

Imus said he was referring to how black people get picked on. I've listened to it twice now and either he meant it, or it was a really good cover up. I can't imagine him being stupid enough to mean that black people are criminals, although it is possible.

Thanks SmokedYaNerd. I was going to post that also. THe comment was taken way the fuck out of context. Not that I give a fuck about Imus cause he is about as funny as a bleeding hemmeroid, but the truth isn't what we always want it to be.

[ric]

A shock DJ doing what he knows best...Shock the fuck outta people

If you don't want to get 'shocked' then don't 'tune in'

[droogsteve]

I see no one read the OTHER half of the story.

Imus said he was referring to how black people get picked on. I've listened to it twice now and either he meant it, or it was a really good cover up.


That's obviously what he meant. That's why I find this so damn funny.


During the "nappy headed hoes" nonsense, what he should have done was say "It was just a joke, it wasn't meant as a serious racial slur, and everyone needs to lighten the fuck up." If that wasn't good enough for them, he should have just taken his millions and retired with a little dignity.


Instead, he bowed and scraped before Sharpton and the other race baiters, kissed their asses, and basically begged forgiveness for being such a horrible white man. Apparently, he thought if scourged himself with thorns before the black community like a fucking medieval penitent, he'd be forgiven.

Fat chance.


So now we have the new PC Imus. And apparently New PC Imus believes that even when an obvious piece of shit like Pacman Jones is arrested, it's due to racism. This time, rather than an innocent joke, it was his disgraceful pandering and ass-kissing to the black community that has brought the wrath of the race baiters upon him.


Too goddamn funny. You gotta love irony. :lol:

[YouEnjoyMyself]

I think some people need to be reminded that people don't have free speech when it comes to what their boss establishes they can or can't say while on the job.

Personally, I don't care about what's going on, just thought that should be made clear.

[jn_powell]

I think some people need to be reminded that people don't have free speech when it comes to what their boss establishes they can or can't say while on the job.

Personally, I don't care about what's going on, just thought that should be made clear.
While what you say is 100% true, I would think in the case of a radio jock who is hired specifically to say shocking things they would not make big issue unless he broke FCC regulations or outright insulted a group of people on a regular basis. Both instances involving Imus were/are relatively small comments either A) blown completely out of proportion (nappy headed hoes) or B) taken completely out of context (this case).

[droogsteve]

I think some people need to be reminded that people don't have free speech when it comes to what their boss establishes they can or can't say while on the job.


That's true. It isn't actually a First Amendment issue, per se. However, it does raise the issue of certain special interest groups deciding what the rest of us are and are not allowed to hear.


I was listening to Opie and Anthony a while ago and they were talking about preparing their "Best Of" tapes to play while they were on vacation. As they went through them, they realized that they said tons of stuff as recently as five years ago that they're no longer allowed to say. Something as simple as using a mock Japanese accent during a bit about Godzilla attacking a city has been edited out for being "racist and offensive".

Of course, what's deemed offensive is quite selective. For example, I've seen local news anchors, not comedians mind you, but journalists, take great fun is imitating California Gov. Schwarzenegger's Austrian accent. And there's nothing wrong with it, IMO, as long as it's not a serious story. But can you imagine what would happen if those anchors put on a stereotypical Speedy Gonzalez Mexican accent during a story about a Hispanic politician? They'd better have taken a useful minor in college, because they can now wipe their asses with their journalism degree. Their careers are over.


There are protected classes and unprotected classes. You can joke all you like about Irish being drunks, but don't you dare joke about blacks and fried chicken. You can make all the white trash jokes about underage incest that you like, but joke that most of the girls in the ghetto get their prom dresses at the maternity store and you're all done.


It's about small minority deciding what the majority can see or hear. An Asian doesn't like certain jokes, so he makes it his mission to make sure YOU can't hear them either. Personally, if I don't like something I hear, I change the station. But these people literally scour the airwaves SEARCHING for things that offend them. For example, Howard Stern. He was first fined by the FCC for his description of someone playing the piano with his penis during the on air Christmas party. The FCC investigated based on a "listener complaint". Now, is there any actual Stern listener that would be offended by something so silly? Of course not, that's typical Stern humor. Which means it WASN'T a "listener", but someone who was looking for something to complain about.


Just like the Imus "nappy" nonsense. How many blacks do you think listen to wrinkly old white guy Imus? Take out the ones looking for things to be offended by, and the answer is close to zero.


The problem is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Rev Al, or the "Pissed Off Asian Coalition", or the "Gays Against Straight People Telling the Same Gay Jokes We Do In Private" write letters and threaten boycotts and the broadcast companies cave. What we have to start doing is boycotting cowardly broadcast outlets who limit what all of us can see or hear because certain people don't like it.

[chrisvet]

I think some people need to be reminded that people don't have free speech when it comes to what their boss establishes they can or can't say while on the job.

Correct on all levels. Your employer dictates how you will conduct yourself. If you fail, you're fired, end of story.

At the end of the day, its irrelivant if you think his personal biases are right or wrong.

[YouEnjoyMyself]

Yeah, that sounds about right. I practice that, change it if you don't like it. I'm also rarely offended, but that's me.

I guess it's sad in a way, but I've come to accept special interest groups having that control. I try and filter things out for myself, or avoid mass media all together. It seems one needs a bunch of money to sway people and I don't have a bunch of money. I just don't want any part. It would be nice to be able to fight the special interest groups, but I don't have the power or knowledge.

I've noticed your racial observations as well. You do see plenty of Irish drunk or Irish cop (or both) jokes being made in many different mediums. I wish I could remember the Japanese joke I heard recently that had to do with accents, but it may have been an older movie or TV show. It sucks how things are. It seems the general apathy that plagues most Americans is taking its toll in other areas, aside from the usual low voter turnout.

I know I'm sounding apathetic as well, I just don't know what to do. I can only make so many light-hearted racial jokes and I'm not even on the radio or TV.

It really comes down to some people having too much time on their hands ruining things for people who like to take a break from their busy schedules to listen to a shock jock. Listening to Howard Stern with my mom on the way to school as a youngster might sound like child abuse to some, but those rides helped me develop my sense of humor now and my resistance to being so politically correct. I don't know.

[LegendaryU2K]

The news has been updated on what he said, he wasn't being racist, he was pointing out that some black folks always blame for or pick on.

I do want to point out, what he said really didn't make any sense, but it wasn't racist. Also, if some black people make fun or say stuff about white folks all the time, but nobody says anything.

GTFO, its racist on one side, but alright on the other, bs....

[kevinsmith]

That's obviously what he meant. That's why I find this so damn funny.


During the "nappy headed hoes" nonsense, what he should have done was say "It was just a joke, it wasn't meant as a serious racial slur, and everyone needs to lighten the fuck up." If that wasn't good enough for them, he should have just taken his millions and retired with a little dignity.


Instead, he bowed and scraped before Sharpton and the other race baiters, kissed their asses, and basically begged forgiveness for being such a horrible white man. Apparently, he thought if scourged himself with thorns before the black community like a fucking medieval penitent, he'd be forgiven.

Fat chance.


So now we have the new PC Imus. And apparently New PC Imus believes that even when an obvious piece of shit like Pacman Jones is arrested, it's due to racism. This time, rather than an innocent joke, it was his disgraceful pandering and ass-kissing to the black community that has brought the wrath of the race baiters upon him.


Too goddamn funny. You gotta love irony. :lol:

I was thinking the same thing...that was obviousliy pandering. Wasn't there a time that Imus would never resort to pandering? I mean, shock jock and all and panderer would be, I think, mutually exclusive.

For example, Howard Stern. He was first fined by the FCC for his description of someone playing the piano with his penis during the on air Christmas party. The FCC investigated based on a "listener complaint". Now, is there any actual Stern listener that would be offended by something so silly? Of course not, that's typical Stern humor. Which means it WASN'T a "listener", but someone who was looking for something to complain about.



Stern is just as bad though. He'll go off on anyone and if they're offended that's too damn bad. But then I remember Jamie Pressley once was talking about someone...I can't remember who, it might have been Stern, and she said that the person had been beat with the ugly yarmulke. Stern said that was offensive and people would get upset...interesting...the guy who doesn't care about offending people apparently himself got offended. Hypocrite.

But anyway, I think it was you who was right on with this some people are fair game and others aren't. It's quite funny really. We like to pretend we're anti racism and we're nice, sensitive poeple, but we only give a crap about a few groups that are loud enough, and the rest, especially if they're white or whiteish, can piss off.