underrated

[choss]

"biggest" underated in the history of rock?

in my personal opinion is faith no more , great music , amazing musicians ,great lyrics , best front man .

toughts?

[splinter43351]

Nickelb--OH, You said underrated.

nevermind then, let me think

[choss]

Nickelb--OH, You said underrated.



can't be more agreed

[O'Bannion]

"biggest" underated in the history of rock?

in my personal opinion is faith no more , great music , amazing musicians ,great lyrics , best front man .

toughts?



Yeah that's kinda the only band I can think of that doesn't get much recognition.

[piepants]

Acid Bath.

[Fungus Amungus]

Mr Bungle
Primus
Chevelle
Soul Coughing

[BaxterII]

I think Camel and Caravan deserve more fame. And Porcupine Tree doesn't get much attention in the States either.

[Chupacabra]

dream theater and porcupine tree for sure

[demonoid]

Fates Warning
Van der Graaf Generator
King's X
Gentle Giant
Camel
Anekdoten

[psychomonkey62]

In terms of the general population, Dream Theater.

Actually, most prog bands are pretty underrated.

[DerekSmalls]

dream theater and porcupine tree for sure

Oh, is it National Opposite Day again already? :uhoh:


The correct answer is Thin Lizzy, any day. Fantastic musicians with one of the most charismatic frontmen of all time and some beautiful songs, yet tragically forgotten today amongst the likes of Led Zep, Pink Floyd etc.


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[Sezril]

Sir Lord Baltimore and Flower Travellin' Band! Two of the earliest pioneers of metal outside the UK with little to show for it.

[camjoe87]

I think Camel and Caravan deserve more fame. And Porcupine Tree doesn't get much attention in the States either.

Quoted for the truth.

As far as older bands go, I think Camel is by far the most underrated band ever. I'm a fan of Caravan, but a lot of their materials didn't interest me at all, still deserves a lot more attention.


Some other modern bands I think deserve more attention are definately Pain of Salvation, Quidam, Anekdoten, Stateless, Pineapple Thief, Sylvan, Satellite, Phideaux, Marillion, and Gazpacho. Hell, pretty much most of the bands I listed (besides POS) are underrated even by prog fans or mainly just unheard of.

[ukonkivi]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

One band?

Portraits of Past maybe.
There are a lot of underrated bands in this world.

[esruC]

I think Camel and Caravan deserve more fame. And Porcupine Tree doesn't get much attention in the States either.

Camel is my choice, too.

[Mojocaster]

What if I told you guys that there is no such thing as an underrated band. muscians who deserve credit, get credit and everyone else just sucks.

now the key to being this honest about it is maturity. For example Spears is extremely hot and she kind of did her own thing, therefore even if you don't like her you'll realize everyone who deserves credit ... gets it! And if you like a band that no one has heard of, they're unheard of because,

A, they weren't original
B, they weren't talented
C, they weren't versatile
D, all of the above

So stop being paranoid and thinking the world is a conspiracy, people who deserve recognition, always .. and I mean ALWAYS get it. Much to my frustration.

[choss]

dream theater is really famous , considering they didnt have any promotion or help from they're record company.

porcupine tree is starting to get well known , and thanks to opeth (amazing )

another band that i just remember... collective soul

[temp100]

What if I told you guys that there is no such thing as an underrated band. muscians who deserve credit, get credit and everyone else just sucks.

now the key to being this honest about it is maturity. For example Spears is extremely hot and she kind of did her own thing, therefore even if you don't like her you'll realize everyone who deserves credit ... gets it! And if you like a band that no one has heard of, they're unheard of because,

A, they weren't original
B, they weren't talented
C, they weren't versatile
D, all of the above

So stop being paranoid and thinking the world is a conspiracy, people who deserve recognition, always .. and I mean ALWAYS get it. Much to my frustration.
No offence, but that is completely wrong.

Whether a band receives credit/recognition is based on how accessible they are. On a base level, the majority of people are satisfied by catchy music with a focus on vocals. On other levels, there are people who look for more sincere emotion, catharsis, climactic buildups, virtuosity, focus on other instruments, heaviness etc...

Simply put, the bands/artists that get recognised to the greatest extent are those who appeal to the base level of listeners by making accessible catchy music.

[Al Paccioli]

I second Sir Lord Baltimore.

[Daucus Karota]

Free
MC5
Dead Can Dance
Dead Boys
Sisters of Mercy

[SatanTheSith]

Dark Funeral.

[asdfkjhg]

No offence, but that is completely wrong.


Thank you.

A lot of great music gets ignored by most people because there's no vocals.

I second Dead Can Dance

[SatanTheSith]

Einherjer too.

[Joey-Clemenza]

Suicidal Tendencies

[ukonkivi]

For example Spears is extremely hot and she kind of did her own thing
Not now. And not really before she was knocked up and fucked up in the head either.

And she's quite lacking in vocal talent.

Since English is such a dominant language, English seems to be a requirement for popular success. The rule is bent from time to time, but it's still not yet been broken.

There's a lot of great music out that will never be known simply for the fact it's not sung in English.
Not everybody knows good English and it takes quite an effort for some.

So basically, anyone who isn't fluent in English, is screwed, and will have to spend years to learn it. Unless they only want popularity in their own country. And even then they're going to be overshadowed in their country by more popular English singing artists.

It's not a conspiracy there, it's just the fact English is the current international language. It would be nice if people didn't have to actually understand the lyrics to enjoy the music, but for some reason, many people don't seem to.

Then there's just the ratio factor. There's so many artists in the world, not everyone can be popular. Quite a few are going to get overlooked because it's probably impossible to listen to all music in a lifetime. Not because they're not good, but because they're not lucky enough to have been noticed. Not conspiracy, luck.

Then there's the fact that the American music machine has been churning out pop style music since before Sinatra's time. Not a whole lot of deviation from that, and when deviation does happen, it's just incorporated back into that pop sludge as pop continues to grow and change with each year. Bands that do get popular, while they do tend to maintain a degree of their original sound, do tone down their underground sound and make it a little more mainstream friendly.

Metal bands are not untalented. They have quite a bit of technicality with their instruments. And while I think that metalheads are often far too elitist, they do have talent that goes unrecognized because it breaks the style of pop that has been ongoingly mainstream.

It's not a conspiracy, it's more of an ongoing chain that hasn't really been broken. A little bit in the hippie and grunge and dare I say it...emo today. But it's a pretty firm chain. You can trace the roots of stuff like Christina Aguilera to Frank Sinatra and earlier and stuff like Fall Out Boy to the Beatles pop years, and earlier pop rock artists.

Pop is a genre of music. A genre of music that is called that because it has ongoingly been the most popular.

Oh and as a genre, pop is a lot less versatile and original than everything else.
It has no more crossover than anything else. And it follows a pretty strict format. Not only is originality hard to find in the pop world, it appears to be looked down upon.

[demonoid]

Oh and as a genre, pop is a lot less versatile and original than everything else.
It has no more crossover than anything else. And it follows a pretty strict format. Not only is originality hard to find in the pop world, it appears to be looked down upon.

I don't completely agree with this. It's true with most of the R&B stuff & mainstream hip-hop, but my definition of popular isn't confined to them alone. The Brit-pop stuff which are basically popular stuff which appeals to the masses are by no means less versatile or unoriginal.
Just to name a few - Blur, Radiohead, Muse.
Its Just that a high percentage of the popular artists are shitty/overhyped but that doesn't mean good one's doesn't exist or hard to find.
For me, every genre has something to offer, be it Rap or Brutal-Death metal.

[ukonkivi]

Well you're right, by the same token, popular does not necessarily mean worse, either. It would be wrong to go to the other extreme of saying mainstream = shit.

Radiohead is not considered pop to my knowledge.
I was talking about pop in that statement, not popular.

And as for their popularity, I don't know anything other than the fact they're usually the top artist on last.fm.

And I wasn't saying that pop music(not popular music, pop music) is devoid of anything good, I was just saying that there's a stronger limit on what's available. I don't know of any experimental bands that are popular off the top of my head.

So I think you misunderstand me. Because you're not saying anything I don't believe. Well except that I don't like rap music. The rapping over beats ruins the beats for me usually. Which is why I generally listen to breakcore instead.

[demonoid]

Actually, I agree with you on the rap thing.
I just...dislike the genre(except for extremely few artists...around 2 i think).
It's mainly because of the cr@p I've heard through the years accidentally...(thru the radio/tv/friends playing it unavoidably etc.)
Theres just something i don't like about the rapping...even I'd take the beats alone.
I do know quite a few ppl who enjoy some of the underground stuff though...dunno what it'll take to get me hooked.
And radiohead wasn't the best of examples...but you get the point...lets just say, crappy overhyped music for the one's you are referring to :D

[Unhinged]

Most have been mentioned, I'll go with Third Eye Blind. Yes, they are underrated in terms of what they're capable of. They're not just bubblegum pop-rock regurgitated bullshit, they actually put out some good songs from a musician's standpoint.

[Mr Chainsaw]

The most underrated artist of all time is most definitely Tom Waits.

The man is my idol, but never gets the recognition he deserves. The man is literally the greatest lyricist and songwriting of our time and he's still cranking out great tunes. The man is a god.

[Alex79]

By my generation: The Beatles.

[SatanTheSith]

By my generation: The Beatles.

Please dude, don't even start that. Everyone fucking loves the Beatles because its cool to be retro or some shit.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

By my generation: The Beatles.

UNDERrated?

[Alex79]

UNDERrated?

By a lot of people in my generation yeah. Or maybe not so much now, but when I was a bit younger loads of people I spoke to insisted they weren't really that good.

Everyone fucking loves the Beatles because its cool to be retro or some shit.

I don't really listen to them myself, but I recognise how good they were and how important they were in the history of popular music, and so should anyone else who's into music.

[Wounded Sparrow]

faith no more, nobody touches them.

[AquaXed]

KYUSS
Godflesh
The shoegaze genre as a whole is pretty ignored.

[Durrly]

GAMALON.

It's a fuckin shame. They're a great jazz fusion band from fuck know's where but shit they can play like hell. Good stuff.

[Face Plant]

Diamond Head (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OA5J1HsGk)
The Stone Roses (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jmR9F12CVIM)
Ministry (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4_yTCODyUCE)
KMFDM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=TYecchm26hk)
Pop Will Eat Itself (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fgusAnd4q9o)

[Trent215]

KYUSS
Godflesh
The shoegaze genre as a whole is pretty ignored.

Nice one on Kyuss, they're awesome and have a sound I would think would appeal to the mainstream but for some reason they weren't very famous

[mutmoo]

Tom Waits
Kyuss
Deep Purple (anything other than Smoke On The Water)
Modest Mouse (Pre Float On/Dashboard/Missed The Boat)
Sigur Rós
Dinosaur JR.

[ukonkivi]

Today's Hipsters absolutely love The Beatles.
I see a little bit of The Beatles in ever "indie" band I've ever encountered.

[choss]

beatles underrated ? sure , also led zeppelin , tool , and u2 are underated

[Rootraz]

The Apex Theory is pretty underrated in my opinion.

[Megadeph]

Pan.Thy.Monium & Magma - made-up lyrics are great.

[Alex79]

beatles underrated ? sure , also led zeppelin , tool , and u2 are underated

I said by my generation. U2 are also underrated by my generation seeing as how everyone in my generation hates them.

[Trent215]

I said by my generation. U2 are also underrated by my generation seeing as how everyone in my generation hates them.

That's because they are a fucking horrible nowadays

[donnie72191]

steve miller band

[Rootraz]

Oh, I forgot to mention the most underrated band in musical history, Grüvis Malt

[foxRocket]

i think the kinks are really underrated... everybody knows "you really got me" but their other stuff is just ignored. i think the village green preservation society is way better than sgt. pepper :dunce:

[SatanTheSith]

Arsis is underrated. And yes, I like We Are The Nightmare.

[GALLIENVS AVG]

Arsis is underrated. And yes, I like We Are The Nightmare.

DO-
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BRING IT DOWN
TONIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

[viper22]

ween
frank zappa (not enough people know about him)