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Mojoe77
06-24-2008, 01:18 PM
That's right! As if this is not a shocker. Even better, MSNBC spins it and blames Israel!

JERUSALEM - Militants in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip fired at least two rockets into southern Israel on Tuesday, breaching a five-day-old cease-fire.

The attack came hours after Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in a West Bank raid. The victims included an Islamic Jihad commander. The militant group later claimed responsibility for firing the rockets, saying the attack was intended to avenge the Israeli operation.

The West Bank is not formally part of the Gaza truce. But the Israeli raid could be seen as violating the spirit of the cease-fire.


You can read the rest of the story here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25346051/)

wra
06-24-2008, 02:00 PM
I don't get how you don't blame the guys who actually shot the rockets off and broke the peace treaty.

Jordan
06-24-2008, 02:25 PM
Playing the devil's advocate here, but

Israel did do a raid and killed a couple palestinians, now I'm not too informed on the whole treaty thing, so whether or not the West Bank was part of the peace treaty I don't really know.

LeeLeah
06-24-2008, 02:29 PM
now
Not to get intoall the political and religious historic stuff butthe arab world and isreal will never be at piece.


as far as palestine and isreal go, any little things sets things off between them. I mean even a minute of cease-fire is good, but this shit will not stop unfortunately there's like this genetic hate going on over there. In the end it doesn't matter who started it they'll always make a big thing out of nothing

wra
06-24-2008, 02:30 PM
Playing the devil's advocate here, but

Israel did do a raid and killed a couple palestinians, now I'm not too informed on the whole treaty thing, so whether or not the West Bank was part of the peace treaty I don't really know.

A good point. Of course its one of the reasons these cease fires will never work.

Mojoe77
06-24-2008, 03:21 PM
Playing the devil's advocate here, but

Israel did do a raid and killed a couple palestinians, now I'm not too informed on the whole treaty thing, so whether or not the West Bank was part of the peace treaty I don't really know.

I highlighted the fact that the West Bank is not part of the peace treaty. Israel did a raid in the West Bank and killed some palestinians which were not part of the peace treaty. Hamas, which is part of the peace treaty, decided to retaliate by firing rockets at Israel.

American Infidel
06-24-2008, 03:35 PM
Jimmy Carter did an excellent job!

That's sarcasm, for those of you who don't get it.

Isn't five days some sort of landmark, though? The children in Sderot must have been dancing in the streets...for, at least, 120 hours, anyway. What a welcome reprieve!

Yuseke
06-24-2008, 04:22 PM
Jimmy Carter did an excellent job!

That's sarcasm, for those of you who don't get it.

Isn't five days some sort of landmark, though? The children in Sderot must have been dancing in the streets...for, at least, 120 hours, anyway. What a welcome reprieve!

Yeah, I believe two days was the cease fire record before. We're getting closer everyone. Only a couple thousand more years and we may be able to go for a month without them killing each other!

jonnykill
06-24-2008, 05:56 PM
Fail

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

Methuser
06-24-2008, 06:14 PM
This shit was retarded when I was a kid and it continues to be retarded at 30 years of age. Who gives a flying fuck what these savages do to each other. We should keep our noses out of it. Why do we take Isreals side on this? Both sides are harming innocent civilians and commiting terrorist attacks on either region. So why don't we just condemn and abandon both sides?

They've constantly "retaliated" on one another for decades and decades.

Fucking savages.

chalupa
06-24-2008, 06:16 PM
You know the way to defeat a low-grade insurgency? Round 'em all up on a reservation and let them build casinos.

Done and done.

LegendaryU2K
06-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Human beings are stupid, there i said it........

Quick_Draw21
06-24-2008, 10:01 PM
That's right! As if this is not a shocker. Even better, MSNBC spins it and blames Israel!



You can read the rest of the story [URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25346051/"]here[/URL

I highlighted the fact that the West Bank is not part of the peace treaty. Israel did a raid in the West Bank and killed some palestinians which were not part of the peace treaty. Hamas, which is part of the peace treaty, decided to retaliate by firing rockets at Israel.]

Hey genius it wasn't Hamas that launched the rockets. If you're going to get that technical don't let your bias show. :dunce:

Here are just a few interesting points you accidentally left off as well:


JERUSALEM - Palestinian militants fired three homemade rockets into southern Israel on Tuesday, threatening to unravel a cease-fire days after it began, and Israel responded by closing vital border crossings into Gaza.
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Despite what it called a "gross violation" of the truce, Israel refrained from military action and said it would send an envoy soon to Egypt to work on the next stage of a broader cease-fire agreement: a prisoner swap that would bring home an Israeli soldier held by Hamas for more than two years.

Hamas, the militant Islamic group that rules Gaza, promised to rein in the Iran- and Syria-backed faction that carried out the rocket attacks and pledged to remain committed to the truce that went into effect June 19 and urged restraint by all sides.

The fact that the cease-fire held up despite the severe strain was an indication that both sides had a lot at stake in the negotiations for a broader agreement. Hamas wants to show it can break the Israeli blockade and provide much-needed relief to Gaza's beleaguered residents, while Israel wants to stop the daily rocket fire that has disrupted the lives of thousands of its citizens.

The midafternoon barrage, which slightly wounded two people, capped a day of violence that presented the truce with its first serious test. Just before midnight, Palestinian militants fired a mortar shell into an empty area in southern Israel. And in a pre-dawn raid, Israeli troops killed two Palestinians, one of them an Islamic Jihad area commander, in the West Bank city of Nablus.

Islamic Jihad, a militant group backed by Syria and Iran, claimed responsibility for the rocket fire from Gaza. Although the West Bank is not included in the truce agreement, the group said the rockets were retaliation for the Nablus raid.

"We cannot keep our hands tied when this is happening to our brothers in the West Bank," the group said.

A neighbor said a Palestinian bystander was also shot to death by troops when he opened the door of his apartment during the raid. The Israeli military said the man was a militant killed during a gunbattle with troops.

Hamas accused Israel of provoking the rocket fire but moved quickly to lower tensions and said it would talk to Islamic Jihad to ensure quiet.

"We in Hamas are committed to the calm. We will talk and we will make sure that all of the factions are committed to the calm, too," said spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.

Israeli government spokesman David Baker called the rocket fire "a gross violation of the calm."

Israel took no military action but late Tuesday decided to shut the crossings, cutting off shipments of basic supplies that had been increased as part of the truce deal, according to defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the decision had not been made public. There was no word on when the crossings would be reopened.

In Berlin, the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers — made up of the U.S., the European Union, the U.N. and Russia — called Tuesday for a cease-fire between Israel and militants in Gaza to be respected "in full" and voiced hope that the truce will last.

The Egyptian-brokered deal aims to end a year of violence that has killed more than 400 Palestinians, including dozens of civilians, and seven Israelis in a bloody cycle of Palestinian rocket attacks and Israeli reprisals.

Egypt hopes to mediate a deal in which Israel would release Palestinian prisoners in exchange for Sgt. Gilad Schalit, an Israeli soldier captured by Palestinian militants in a cross-border attack in June 2006.

Hamas' larger goal is for Israel to reopen Gaza's strategic border crossing with Egypt. The Rafah crossing has been sealed since the Hamas takeover, preventing the vast majority of Gaza's 1.4 million people from traveling in and out of the area. Israel has said Rafah will open only after the captured soldier returns home.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak held talks Tuesday in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik, focusing on the issues of the soldier and the crossing. An Israeli official with Olmert's delegation said Egypt gave assurances that Rafah would not open without the soldier's release.

Israel has balked at Hamas' demands that some 450 prisoners be released in exchange for the soldier. Israel, which holds some 10,000 Palestinian prisoners, says the list of names submitted by Hamas is full of militants involved in deadly attacks.

After the summit, officials from all sides said Egypt is working to bring Israel and Hamas into talks in the coming days to negotiate the exchange and solidify the truce. In the talks, which could start late this week or early next week, Egyptian mediators would shuttle between Israeli and Hamas delegations in separate locations in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.

Israeli officials said the top Israeli negotiator on the prisoner swap, Ofer Dekel, is to travel to Cairo on Thursday. Despite Tuesday's rocket attack, Olmert's spokesman, Mark Regev, said there were no plans to alter Dekel's schedule.

A Hamas official said those talks could begin Sunday, and underlined that its delegation would not be in the same building as the Israelis.

"Our demands are still the same, that the prisoners whose names we handed over to the Egyptians previously must be released," said Osama al-Muzzini, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza.

The cease-fire is meant to avert an Israeli invasion of Gaza, a tiny, impoverished seaside territory of 1.4 million people that Israel evacuated in 2005 after a 38-year military occupation. The deal extends beyond Hamas to all militant groups operating in Gaza but does not include the West Bank.

While battling Hamas, Israel is conducting peace talks with the moderate Palestinian government in the West Bank. Israel, however, continues to arrest wanted men in the West Bank, saying the Palestinians have not done enough to control militants there.

In another development, Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has invited him and fellow negotiator Ahmed Qureia to Washington next month to discuss their talks with Israel. While dealing with Gaza, Israel is also talking peace with the West Bank government headed by moderate President Mahmoud Abbas. Erekat told The Associated Press that this was the first time the negotiators have been invited to Washington for bilateral talks.

Also on Tuesday, as French President Nicolas Sarkozy wrapped up a three-day visit, officials said an Israeli police officer fatally shot himself in the head at a farewell ceremony for the visiting leader at Ben-Gurion Airport outside Tel Aviv. The shooting prompted bodyguards to whisk Sarkozy, his wife, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, and Olmert to safety, officials said.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld denied reports that there had been an assassination attempt on Sarkozy, and other police officials said the leaders were never in danger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians