Yale attack

[Treeves]

A bombing on yale TURN ON YOUR DAMN NEWS.

bombing on the mail room.

[disturbed2]

are you fuckin serious...brb

[disturbed2]

holy shit! that sucks! i am so sad and does anyone know how it happened?

[chris_78660]

holy shit...
so are you guys still against owning fire arms? shot guns sold out in austin on 9-11....i wish i had enough money to get myself one. this is fucking crazy

[chris_78660]

no injurys.....yet

[Bergs]

It finally happened. After all these years harvard and yale's rivalry finally got violent.

Seriously though, Bush's daughter goes to yale doesnt she? Coincidence? Maybe, but its to early to know.

[chris_78660]

his other daughter goes to UT at austin....

[disturbed2]

chris if i were you i would come up with enuf miney to buy a shottie and move out of that big damn state.

[chris_78660]

i really do want a gun....but i wouldn't feel safer anywhere else than here. haven't you ever heard the slogan "don't mess with texas"?
however i don't know which is scarier: the fact that terrorists have weapons that can kill me, while i currently do not own a gun.....or that the lib's on the board want to keep it that way

[Treeves]

I aonly got a BB gun

[droogsteve]

So what you really meant to say was "MY BBs never miss." :D

[Kanism]

shotguns don't cost but a couple hundred bucks...I wanna buy one and get the riot gun conversion kit. my friend has a glock with some hollow points...the summabitch is bad ass!!!!

on the news, they also detained a couple of suspects who had plans on replaying the events of 9/11....

to all you fuckers that forgot about 9/11 and want to continue to bitch about how we are gunning for oil....FUCK YOU!

[Treeves]

Originally posted by droogsteve
So what you really meant to say was "MY BBs never miss." :D Meanies always got to bring me down but ill get you back.Ioll be getting a gun in 7 years though...Till then *Grabs Paintball gun and B B gun* DIE!!! :mad:

[Dins]

however i don't know which is scarier: the fact that terrorists have weapons that can kill me, while i currently do not own a gun.....or that the lib's on the board want to keep it that way

therefore that the military budget of the us is 400 billion dollars, i would not say that you don't have weapons. plus, a shotgun won't help a whole lot against things other than people.

rather use small nukes (what a pathetic idea, just thinking about that makes me sick. anybody read a bit about it and i would like to talk about this, cuz i find it very pathetic, very sad)

[chris_78660]

what the fuck are you talking about???
do you think that the 400 billion dollars is at my disposal? do you think that I have the authority to order a low nuke strike on a reported terrorist in my neighborhood?
i want a shotgun to make sure that i have a larger chance of hitting the HUMAN that i would be shooting at. think....then post, din

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by chris_78660
holy shit...
so are you guys still against owning fire arms? shot guns sold out in austin on 9-11....i wish i had enough money to get myself one. this is fucking crazy

somone blowing up a building and gun control are 2 seperate issues, it's not like the perps subdued or killed anyone to plant the bomb.

[Dins]

ok, chris, just answer this question: what do you think you would be attacked by, that you want to protect yourself from? or by whom?

[chris_78660]

one more time for the guys who aren't listening.
if there is going to be an attack, then obviously there will be more than the ONE fucking person who detonates the bomb. for instance if the perp turns out to be middle eastern, there is a STRONG possibility that he wasn't in it alone. that means more terrorists in the area...in case you didn't catch that.
another reason could be the looting and confusion that could ensue after an attack. i guaran-damn-tee you that if UT was bombed, there would be a short burst in crime during all the confusion. both have EVERYTHING to do with the other.
don't sound ignorant by implying that i was going to shoot a bomber that came to my house....
BTW: if there was rioting or mass looting, how long do you think it would take a police officer to get to my house?

[Kanism]

I tell ya what...if I was lounging around a public place (that allowed registered gun owners to carry) and saw a freak waltz in with a bombing vest on....I'd sure as shit rather shoot him and watch him die than let him kill me and the others around me.

[Delta]

Very Good Mr. Kan.

I own several guns myself. I am well trained in using them and am in the process of getting my license to carry. I know for a fact that if a person were to break into MY house and I could get to my gun, then that person has a much better chance of catching two in the chest and one in the head than anything else.

Edit: and BTW I would reccomend the Sig Sauer or Beretta as a pistol. Very durable and simple to operate.

[chris_78660]

a revolver would be nice, but would have less bullets and would be tedious to reload.

[Kanism]

they are now referring to it as an "explosion" rather than a "bombing"...let's hope it was merely an accident....

the al-queerda is saying their next strike is gonna be in the heart of america...my bro in law thinks that it's gonna be the St. Louis Arc because it is an easily recognizable land mark in the "heart of America"...any other theories?

[chris_78660]

austin is the heart of texas...
i wonder how strong our nation could hold against an attack on our own land...

[Kanism]

Originally posted by chris_78660
austin is the heart of texas...
i wonder how strong our nation could hold against an attack on our own land... I'm curious how the war protestors would react....

"c'mon guys...we should talk to these psycho suicide bombers...help them solve their problems...we shouldn't shoot them first...maybe they were bearing gifts of gunpowder and glycerine...."


blech

[chris_78660]

i imagine some protestors would try to strap on a dynamite vest and join the festivitys, all the while complaining that bush is the reason that they are doing it.

[Kanism]

Originally posted by chris_78660
i imagine some protestors would try to strap on a dynamite vest and join the festivitys, all the while complaining that bush is the reason that they are doing it. if that idiot tries that in Texas...I wish him/her the best of luck dodging bullets whizzing towards his/her head.

[chris_78660]

difficult to dodge a shotgun (see: above posts);)

[Kanism]

Originally posted by chris_78660
difficult to dodge a shotgun (see: above posts);) don't know if I'd want to fire a shotgun at a guy wearing a bomb vest.....

[Dins]

i'm just not going to get into that, i just don't see a reason to buy a gun to protect myself from suicide bombers. but i'm not from texas, so i see the posession of guns not as lightly as you guys. plus i don't just shoot people that i think are terrorist on an open road.

[Treeves]

I think we went very off topic

[Dins]

so??

noone knows what happened in yale, you could speculate about it, but that has been done. so we can only wait to find out why a bomb exploded.

i find talking about the use of guns far more interesting, now that chris and kanism are owning this thread

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by Dins
i'm just not going to get into that, i just don't see a reason to buy a gun to protect myself from suicide bombers.
yeah, you should stay out of this one...your feeble can't ever follow what i'm saying. did I say anything about shooting the actual bomber? no, i was pointing out that if you were to shoot at a person with a shotgun it would be almost impossible to miss. in fact if you actually took the time to read the very top post on the second page, you can CLEARLY see that i said the danger would lie within the people OTHER than the bomber. don't twist my posts, jackass.

Originally posted by Dins
plus i don't just shoot people that i think are terrorist on an open road.
once again, where the fuck are you getting your material? has anyone said that they were going to shoot terrorist suspects on the road?
god damn your idiocy pisses me off. the whole reason you are against guns, is because you are afraid that weak minded paranoid people, like yourself, would get a hold of these guns and kill everyone. i know in your 13 years of existence you probably haven't met many responsible adults, but there are more than you think. responsible people realize that there is a consequence for every action, and responsible people are the people that i am fighting for. do you think that we give concealed hand gun licenses out to criminals?....
Originally posted by Dins
i find talking about the use of guns far more interesting, now that chris and kanism are owning this thread
you know what, do me a favor and DON'T answer these questions, let your far more intelligent supporters reply with FACTS and not some spin doctor rhetoric...

[BigMattTheHobo]

the only things i worry about when people own guns are:

Children getting into them
Criminals Stealing Them
People snapping and going on rampages

two of the three can be solved by locking up guns.

[disturbed2]

they have a new prototype for cops. it only unlocks to their finger print. this can be safer than just having a safety

[Illicit]

Originally posted by chris_78660
holy shit...
so are you guys still against owning fire arms? shot guns sold out in austin on 9-11....i wish i had enough money to get myself one. this is fucking crazy


Wow! I've never thought of it that way before. I'm sure all the people on the 75th floor of the WTC were all thinking: "Damn, I wish I was packin'..."

What the hell do guns have to do with this?

[Illicit]

Originally posted by BigMattTheHobo
the only things i worry about when people own guns are:

Children getting into them
Criminals Stealing Them
People snapping and going on rampages

two of the three can be solved by locking up guns.

Jeez, this thread is just full of wisdom. Of course putting your gun in a locked closet will keep the burglar who just broke into your locked house from getting them. Because the safe is probably the last place he'll be looking for valuables...

[disturbed2]

Originally posted by chris_78660
i really do want a gun....but i wouldn't feel safer anywhere else than here. haven't you ever heard the slogan "don't mess with texas"?

nope never heard that one, its probly cuz everyone dislikes mexicans. i dont but sometimes they make me laugh.

[Illicit]

Yeah. Mexicans rule. Cheech, Del Toro, Salma Hayek.

And the talk funny too, esse!

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by Illicit
Wow! I've never thought of it that way before. I'm sure all the people on the 75th floor of the WTC were all thinking: "Damn, I wish I was packin'..."

What the hell do guns have to do with this?

exactly, this is not the gun control thread. Having guns in no way protects us from terrorisim. Not the kind of terrorism we have to deal with here anyway.

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by Nocturnal
Having guns in no way protects us from terrorisim. Not the kind of terrorism we have to deal with here anyway.
what the hell is with you guys? are you not listening to me? how many times do i have to tell you that i'm not talking about the fucking suicide bombs. if all terrorists did was blow themselves up, then we wouldn't have to worry about killing them...they would eventually die off. i'm talking about the after effects of an attack. open your eye's to the idea and shut your mouths on the suicide bomber...
here are some quotes form me, in THIS thread i might add.
"terrorists have weapons that can kill me, while i currently do not own a gun"

"if the perp turns out to be middle eastern, there is a STRONG possibility that he wasn't in it alone"

"another reason could be the looting and confusion that could ensue after an attack. i guaran-damn-tee you that if UT was bombed, there would be a short burst in crime during all the confusion.....don't sound ignorant by implying that i was going to shoot a bomber that came to my house....
BTW: if there was rioting or mass looting, how long do you think it would take a police officer to get to my house?"

"if you were to shoot at a person with a shotgun it would be almost impossible to miss. in fact if you actually took the time to read the very top post on the second page, you can CLEARLY see that i said the danger would lie within the people OTHER than the bomber"

is anyone actually reading my posts, or are they just assuming they know what i said???
one more time "the real threat would be AFTER the attack. my situations have nothing to do with the actual bomber"

BTW: here's a memo my apt left us today...it doesn't have too much to do with this, but is interesting nonetheless

[chris_78660]

memo

[Nocturnal]

was there mass rioting, looting, raping after the WTC attack? I don't remember seeing anything...

the total breakdown of the system that you are talking about is very unlikey in our country. A gun is prob a million times more likely to protect you from a berguler than a terrorist.

[Dins]

chris, i am just going to ignore all your insults, as you don't know me at all and wouldn't know anything about me. but what does it matter anyways. if you think i am a pathetic idiot, than believe that.

so are you guys still against owning fire arms? shot guns sold out in austin on 9-11....i wish i had enough money to get myself one. this is fucking crazy

just read what you said chris and it says you want a gun. this statement being in the same sentence as a reference to 9/11, where everyone bought a gun to protect themselves. out of what you said, i take that you want to buy a gun to protect yourself against terrorists. that's just how it sounds to me.

the fact that terrorists have weapons that can kill me, while i currently do not own a gun.....or that the lib's on the board want to keep it that way

again the same thing, terrorist can attack you because they have guns, while you don't. just backs up what i said before. you want a gun to protect yourself. u currently don't own a gun, which means you are going to buy one, now that you are in fear, or whatever reason you have, not that you are a fearfull person.

i want a shotgun to make sure that i have a larger chance of hitting the HUMAN that i would be shooting at. think....then post, din

that really speaks for itself.



what the hell is with you guys? are you not listening to me? how many times do i have to tell you that i'm not talking about the fucking suicide bombs. if all terrorists did was blow themselves up, then we wouldn't have to worry about killing them...they would eventually die off. i'm talking about the after effects of an attack.

so what yould you want your shotgun/ handgun for?? just to feel protected from the aftermath of a suicide attack??
america must then be worse than i thought, if you need a shotgun to protect yourself from the uncivilized looting and killing and so on after the us has been attacked. funny how i didn't know that any of that happended after 9/11. maybe it's different in texas (no offence, just had to say that)

enough of that, waiting for an answer

[chris_78660]

it's really not surprising me that you guys are this far off....i'm starting to get used to it.
i never said anything WOULD happen, but i do plan on being PREPARED FOR ANYTHING. i think the chances are extremly low of a terrorist attack on me, but an attack by a fellow american would be highly likely. i never said that it was only a terrorist i'm worried about.....hell, i'd be more afraid of you two with a gun.
my point is that we are in a high risk time period right now, that's just adding to the current crime rate that we have right now....i would rather be safe than sorry.

[Bergs]

Getting back to the bombing at Yale. Authorities are now looking into the possibility that it was tied to the Unibomber. The bombing took place on his birthday and he once killed a yale professor with a bomb. Maybe it is some wacko follower.

[chris_78660]

great,,,[/sarcasm]
we only caught the unibomber because his brother turned him in...

[Dins]

chris, you are moving away from the topic, which i take as a signal that we have proven the point. buying a gun will not help what is happening.

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by Dins
chris, you are moving away from the topic, which i take as a signal that we have proven the point.
what are you talking about? you never replied to my last post and the topic is the yale bombing, so i replyed to Bergs post....jack ass
here's an idea, why don't YOU tell ME what you think that topic is...something tells me that you aren't following this simple conversation

Originally posted by Dins
buying a gun will not help what is happening.
are you really this daft? what in the world would honestly make you think that one guy in texas with a gun could prevent a terrorist attack?

[shade]

Dins, about the small nukes, the study is to find out if using small bunker buster nukes would be an efficient weapon against mile deep bunkers in places like Iraq, which is likely where saddam is. If you were a solder on the ground, I bet that you would rather send a bunker buster tac nuke than grab a gun and go down a tunnel. We test nukes under ground in Nevada and Utah all the time but you would never know, because subsurface detonations have little effect on the environment above. Not to mention, these nukes would use so little material, that even if used above ground it would likely not destroy more than a couple city blocks, or maybe even just one block or a floor of a building. But thats irrelevant, since we only want to find a way to use subsurface tactical nukes. It would melt the rock and cause the bunker to cave in while simultaneously radiating the enclosed space that no one would ever be able to physically reach because of the melt effect.

[Illicit]

You need a gun to protect youself in case of general civil unrest, a potential situation following a terrorist attack, correct?

Don't you think a riot would be a lot less dangerous if the angry, looting mobs didn't have guns, and the cops did, and everybody knew it?

Do you honestly think it is 'safer' for the whole angry group of rioters have guns?

Wow, you're dumber than I thought...


A lot of Americans could learn a lot by living in a European country for a while. If for no better reason than to learn that when the general public don't have guns, neither do the criminals. It's a lot safer that way. When a burglar robs your house in the US, you know he's got a gun. That's scary. In Oslo, where I live, you know that the burglar is only there to steal stuff, not to shoot you. It's a lot less dangerous that way.

Having a gun is only a protective measure when you're the only one, or at least one of few, who has one.

That is a fact. I guarantee it. No need arguing here, you'll just make yourself look dumb.

I can't tell you the best way to get the guns out of America now that they're already there. But I promise it would be better (read: safer) if they weren't.

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by shade
Dins, about the small nukes, the study is to find out if using small bunker buster nukes would be an efficient weapon against mile deep bunkers in places like Iraq, which is likely where saddam is.

first off this BS off how they only want to "study" it is pathetic. BE HONEST GW, you want to build it, otherwise why "study" it. Second, what are we doing testing nukes? Isn't that in defiance with international agreement? When france tested a nuke a couple years back we got all pissed off, and now with N. Korea possibly trying to get nukes we are posturing for war to prevent that.

Or is the US planning on leading by the do what I say, not what I do doctorine?

[Illicit]

Or even the: do-what-I-say, because-I-have-the-power-to-overrun-your-country-and-have-given-you-financial-aid-in-the-past. And-ignore-what-I-do doctrine?

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by Illicit
You need a gun to protect youself in case of general civil unrest, a potential situation following a terrorist attack, correct?

Don't you think a riot would be a lot less dangerous if the angry, looting mobs didn't have guns, and the cops did, and everybody knew it?

Do you honestly think it is 'safer' for the whole angry group of rioters have guns?

Wow, you're dumber than I thought... It would also be alot less dangerous if everybody joined hands and sang happy songs until the emergency passed. Holy shit, you're naieve. Guess what? The criminals who would be rioting ALREADY HAVE GUNS. Do you know why gun laws don't affect criminals? Because they're fucking criminals, stupid. Gun laws only keep guns away from people who obey laws. As for the cops, in a riot their priority would be to protect govenment property, power plants, the water supply ect. Are the police going to post an officer on my front lawn to protect MY home and family? Somehow I doubt it. I guess I should let any asshole that already has an ILLEGAL gun burn my house and rape my girlfriend, right?


A lot of Americans could learn a lot by living in a European country for a while. If for no better reason than to learn that when the general public don't have guns, neither do the criminals. It's a lot safer that way. When a burglar robs your house in the US, you know he's got a gun. That's scary. In Oslo, where I live, you know that the burglar is only there to steal stuff, not to shoot you. It's a lot less dangerous that way.

Having a gun is only a protective measure when you're the only one, or at least one of few, who has one.

That is a fact. I guarantee it. No need arguing here, you'll just make yourself look dumb.

I can't tell you the best way to get the guns out of America now that they're already there. But I promise it would be better (read: safer) if they weren't. Alot of Europeans could learn alot by living in America for a while. America is a unique culture. There is still a individualist mindset here. What many Europeans derisively refer to as a "cowboy mentality" Maybe in Norway you are content to trust the government to protect the things that you care about. Many Americans are not. You're right. There is no point in argueing about it. You say silly pointless things like it would be better if there were no guns while admitting that you have no idea how this could be achieved. Most Europeans will never understand us and shouldn't even try to. Just a little side note: I have no idea what Oslo is like, but I'm from NYC. I have a feeling if I dropped you off by yourself on a corner in parts of Brooklyn or the South Bronx, you'd lose your self rightious attitude pretty quickly and gratefully accept a gun if it was given to you.

[Illicit]

Originally posted by droogsteve
It would also be alot less dangerous if everybody joined hands and sang happy songs until the emergency passed. Holy shit, you're naieve. Guess what? The criminals who would be rioting ALREADY HAVE GUNS.

I know. If you read my whole post, I think I made it clear that I don't think there is a quick solution. But over time I think it is worth reducing the amount of guns in the US.

Also, you don't seem to understand that rioters aren't all criminals. Usually it's the general poulace taking andvantage of the lack of control. Remember the Rodney King riots? That wasn't just crack dealers and burglars. That was your average Joe doing very un-average things. You want Joe to have guns, I don't.



Alot of Europeans could learn alot by living in America for a while. America is a unique culture. There is still a individualist mindset here. What many Europeans derisively refer to as a "cowboy mentality" Maybe in Norway you are content to trust the government to protect the things that you care about[/QUOTE]

I'm not European, dunmbass. I just live here. I'm from Manhattan, NY, NY.

I also like your new twist on the spelling of 'naïve'.

[Bergs]

Also, you don't seem to understand that rioters aren't all criminals. Usually it's the general poulace taking andvantage of the lack of control. Remember the Rodney King riots? That wasn't just crack dealers and burglars. That was your average Joe doing very un-average things. You want Joe to have guns, I don't.

Riot = Law. A violent disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled for a common purpose

Riot = illegal

Rioters = criminal

nuff said

Source: www.dictionary.com

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by Illicit
Also, you don't seem to understand that rioters aren't all criminals. Usually it's the general poulace taking andvantage of the lack of control. Remember the Rodney King riots? That wasn't just crack dealers and burglars. That was your average Joe doing very un-average things. You want Joe to have guns, I don't. No, you don't understand. All the rioters WERE criminals. "Average Joe" wasn't rioting. He was home trying to protect his home and family from pieces of shit who used a jury verdict as an excuse to steal a VCR. Or maybe burn down a grocery that some Korean immigrant worked twenty hours a day to own. I guess you feel he shouldn't have the right to defend himself or his business. You can't deny all law abiding people the right to defend themselves because some chose to act like animals during a riot. And don't bother saying something stupid about the police protecting us. During the L.A. riots they were nowhere to be seen.





I'm not European, dunmbass. I just live here. I'm from Manhattan, NY, NY. I should have guessed by your cluelessness. Upper West Side, right?

I also like your new twist on the spelling of 'naïve'. Thank you. I always enjoy constructive criticism from someone as perfect as you. I also like your twist on the spelling of 'dumbass' and 'populace'. Can you spell 'ASSHOLE'?

[Bergs]

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