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GALLIENVS AVG
06-28-2008, 08:29 PM
I'm going to start playing Diablo again I think, gonna make a new account.
Username: GALLIENVSAVG
Server: US East
Message me if you want to party up and play a little.
PsiRedEye22
06-28-2008, 08:43 PM
Fuck yeah, starting at 7AM EST tomorrow, I will also be grinding it out. We must form a hardcore party.
Edit: Username PsiRedEye22 obviously, also USEast.
Papero
06-28-2008, 08:51 PM
I am also on EAST, under..PAPERO
That's P-A-P-E-R-O
Zero-Man
06-28-2008, 09:06 PM
Dont have the game :( If i did id be playing
PsiRedEye22
06-28-2008, 09:07 PM
It's availible through digital download now on blizzar'ds site. You have no excuse.
EDIT: I think we should totally start tomorrow morning, cause this download is gonna take forever, and I work overnight.
dcam0326
06-28-2008, 09:37 PM
It's availible through digital download now on blizzar'ds site. You have no excuse.
EDIT: I think we should totally start tomorrow morning, cause this download is gonna take forever, and I work overnight.
WHERE! I can't find it!
Diablo II is an online game? Wut?
sk0rch
06-28-2008, 09:50 PM
wait for the new starcraft you fools!
Gooser
06-28-2008, 10:13 PM
i take it you guys are playing normal? t.t
although i wouldn't mind a char i can play without fear of being pkd in every game.
Think my account is *2inchwhite UsEAST
add meeeeeeee
aooga12
06-28-2008, 10:15 PM
Fuck yeah, starting at 7AM EST tomorrow, I will also be grinding it out. We must form a hardcore party.
Edit: Username PsiRedEye22 obviously, also USEast.
why are you guys playing d2 when d3 is comming out?
Gooser
06-28-2008, 10:21 PM
Cuz D2 is the shit
SheBear
06-28-2008, 10:26 PM
why are you guys playing d2 when d3 is comming out?
we'll get prepared for it this way.
actually, this seems like a cool idea. I'll think about breaking out the ol' D2 game.
Mysterio
06-28-2008, 10:32 PM
Is anyone on west?? Ill play if they are
Papero
06-28-2008, 10:49 PM
why are you guys playing d2 when d3 is comming out?
You realize it will be well over a year until the game is released? When you found about about COD 5 being developed, did you stop playing COD4?
At least with SC2 we were given a lot more info to start with, we were told how long it's been in development.
With Diablo 3, there's little info and they seem to be implying in the FAQ that the game has a royal fuck ton of work that needs to be done to it. The game seems 1/4 the way to being released.
Last year they made SC2 sound like it was almost finished, and there's not a peep on a release date yet.
SheBear
06-28-2008, 10:58 PM
You realize it will be well over a year until the game is released? When you found about about COD 5 being developed, did you stop playing COD4?
At least with SC2 we were given a lot more info to start with, we were told how long it's been in development.
With Diablo 3, there's little info and they seem to be implying in the FAQ that the game has a royal fuck ton of work that needs to be done to it. The game seems 1/4 the way to being released.
Last year they made SC2 sound like it was almost finished, and there's not a peep on a release date yet.
yeah, but they have a gameplay video already. Not a ton of gameplay sure, but still. I think that shows that they just have to do everything, development is really all done right now. they just have to make it now.
Wattle
06-28-2008, 11:45 PM
I watched the interview with one of the guys working on Diablo III, he said they just have to mainly work on content now and tweak everything a little. So yeah, its going to be awhile. But seriously, I'm glad Blizzard doesn't rush games, but I hope they have a beta.
IGneois
06-28-2008, 11:46 PM
gah, my us east isnt working, west works, my brother came over and we were trying to install it on the other computer... but we left his d2 cd code..so he used serials.ws code, then expansion..and now none of us can get on.
ass bucket.
we just reinstalled with proper codes..but assbucket blizzard is being an assbucket
'
'igneois' when i fix it
puppetmasterjjk
06-29-2008, 01:01 AM
Puppetmasterjjk on US West.
If I play again.
Frostdaddy
06-29-2008, 02:35 AM
Just bought the Battle Chest in preparation for D3. I'll be on US East, username pending until I get it installed. Do you guys recommend just going onto Battle.net right away or single plater first?
Wreckedem
06-29-2008, 05:35 AM
Just bought the Battle Chest in preparation for D3. I'll be on US East, username pending until I get it installed. Do you guys recommend just going onto Battle.net right away or single plater first?
Best way to start IMO is b.net.
Make your own game (password protect it if you wanna solo) and just get a good feel of the game, then later you can play with others and what not.
PsiRedEye22
06-29-2008, 08:28 AM
Indeed, start on bnet. I hope someone is awake at this hour, as I am minutes away from starting again.
Papero
06-29-2008, 08:37 AM
I've been playing, I can't decide what I want to do.
My original idea was to remake my classic barb, grandfather sword, .08 storm shield, .08 valor, .08 vamp gaze but apparently all that shit is gone.
Franky2toes
06-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Thinking about buying this game again. But its 40bucks. Shit not sure if I want to spend that much money on this. Not 100% sure how much I will play it anyways.
PsiRedEye22
06-29-2008, 08:43 AM
Fuck, I need to actually download the blizzard version of LOD, the cd keys are different. 15 minute delay.
Wreckedem
06-29-2008, 08:49 AM
I've been playing, I can't decide what I want to do.
My original idea was to remake my classic barb, grandfather sword, .08 storm shield, .08 valor, .08 vamp gaze but apparently all that shit is gone.
I started a WW barb on USEast, I love barbs, always been my "main" class
PsiRedEye22
06-29-2008, 09:14 AM
USEast doesn't work for the digital download yet. What the fuck. Either way, I'm now PsiRedEye22 on USWest. I'm gonna make a bowzon. Hit me up on AIM if anyone is up for it.
Thomson
06-29-2008, 09:28 AM
i wonder how many people all over the world are re-installing right now D2 hahaha.
i bet sales of D2 just went up 10 fold too.
PsiRedEye22
06-29-2008, 09:34 AM
Yeah, I had the original, I just had to re-buy the expansion.
I'll play from time to time, I want to play through the whole game properly though.
I'll be on US East, D_man_76
Thomson
06-29-2008, 11:11 AM
i was just thinking about Blizzard right, and if you think about it, Blizzard could "sell out" (i don't mean sell the company) and make hundreds of millions.
if they got a team together and made a console version of WoW they would get like 5+ million extra subscribers. then they could release D3 on PC and on consoles and sell about 10 million copies of D3.
they'd destroy the franchise, but it must be hard for the share holders not to want this to happen.
PattyWackit
06-29-2008, 11:29 AM
my account is Pat(2xX) on USEast. 77 sorc and 43 barb on softcore ladder atm.
I wouldnt mind playing hardcore though
Ginish
06-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Hardcore was fun but you always have those dickheads who come in when ur a decent level and pk you. Really pissed me the fuck off. I might just go to wal-mart and pick up a copy. Im bored as hell.
Smartass
06-29-2008, 05:18 PM
I've NEVER played Diablo at all.
Im going to GameStop right now to buy the pack of 3(or whatever it is). I dont even know the slightest thing about this game, but it looks pretty fun, and alot of people play it.
Ill be back in like an hour if any of you guys wana show a noob the ropes. :dunce:
Mysterio
06-29-2008, 05:22 PM
i wonder how many people all over the world are re-installing right now D2 hahaha.
i bet sales of D2 just went up 10 fold too.
Its a scan D3 isent even going to come out!
And smartass guy above, I play on west non ladder if you want to play I can help you out
puppetmasterjjk
06-29-2008, 05:28 PM
Its a scan D3 isent even going to come out!
And smartass guy above, I play on west non ladder if you want to play I can help you out
What's your account name?
bamboopro
06-29-2008, 05:29 PM
So are you guys playing the expansion pack or just D2? I've lost my case for the expansion so I am without a CD key :(
puppetmasterjjk
06-29-2008, 05:33 PM
So are you guys playing the expansion pack or just D2? I've lost my case for the expansion so I am without a CD key :(
Most everyone is playing the expansion.
I believe blizzard will give you a new CD key for free if you send them all of your discs and leave a note explaining what you are missing/what you need replaced, I did the same with 2 of my discs and a CD key, they charged me 10 dollars, but I think that was only because they replaced the discs as well.
If it's not free, it's only 10 bucks.
Nickster
06-29-2008, 05:39 PM
Okay. I give up. Can't find the download, I'll buy the battlechest next time I'm near business depot.
Zero-Man
06-29-2008, 05:42 PM
Im most likely going to hamachi it up with Diablo if anyone cares to join.
PattyWackit
06-29-2008, 06:00 PM
I'll play with whoever, im on USEast and I already have 2 chars on ladder. like I said if people are playing hardcore i'll join, or just play ladder with whoever logs on. my acct is Pat(2xX) i'll be on shortly so feel free to whisper me
Smartass
06-29-2008, 06:35 PM
I just bought the game along with the expansions n stuff. installing now :)
If any of you wana show me the ropes, my AIM is OnTheWake6607. :):boink:
EDIT: WHERE THE FUCK IS MY CD-KEY?! I bought the pack of the game and expansion, I got the CD-key for the expansion, but theres no sticker on the little pouch that the original came on.
wtf. please tell me i didnt just drive 30 minutes and back for nothing
Thomson
06-29-2008, 06:37 PM
god damn you're in for a treat
Wattle
06-29-2008, 06:40 PM
I'll reinstall it on Tuesday if I can find my discs. I'll be on East.
I've never played ladder, I always use to just play normal with friends. What are most of you guys on, and lets say your level 30 on a ladder (hardcore) server and you get killed. Do you lose your character and all of your possessions?
Papero
06-29-2008, 06:47 PM
I'll reinstall it on Tuesday if I can find my discs. I'll be on East.
I've never played ladder, I always use to just play normal with friends. What are most of you guys on, and lets say your level 30 on a ladder (hardcore) server and you get killed. Do you lose your character and all of your possessions?
Yes, you lose everything.
Ladder is so much more fun IMO, less hacks.
Wattle
06-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Sounds pretty cool. I guess I'd have to team up with a group of trusted ebaumers though or else I would probably get owned.
Smartass
06-29-2008, 07:50 PM
ok, got my game after standing in line with a bunch of mexicans at wallmart to return the bad copy. fuck.
now im installing if anybody wants to show me whats up.
IGneois
06-29-2008, 08:02 PM
haha i got the boot from east because my brother forgeting his code and useing a bad one..that ass...so its a few weeks wait for me, so went ahead on west..started a druid...completely fucked him up, but we played beside each other, so we went in and out of games pretty fast doing baal runs, so im restricted..been about 10 hours..haha this is hard...almost not worth it.
Papero
06-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Sounds pretty cool. I guess I'd have to team up with a group of trusted ebaumers though or else I would probably get owned.
Word of advice, in hardcore mode NEVER take a waypoint TP from an untrusted higher level, they take your innocents over and over and eventually murder you.
I found that out years ago on my 64 martial arts assassin, it was the saddest day I ever had in D2.
Frostdaddy
06-29-2008, 08:13 PM
My account is FrostFire131 on US East. If you start a char on single player, can you play with that char on Battle.net? I have a level 11 druid right now, and I want to know before I go any further.
Wattle
06-29-2008, 08:26 PM
Word of advice, in hardcore mode NEVER take a waypoint TP from an untrusted higher level, they take your innocents over and over and eventually murder you.
I found that out years ago on my 64 martial arts assassin, it was the saddest day I ever had in D2.
I almost cried when I had my first level 80 Barbarian, I was young at the time and some mysterious stranger asked me if I wanted some "cool items". Me being a complete noob to online games replied with "sure!". He asked me to fill my inventory and go outside of town, I walked out of town with my bags full of potions. He killed me and all of my gear fell onto the floor.
I just sat with my jaw open, I ran back to my corpse and he was picking everything up. I was like "FCK U, I HATE U!!" into chat and I eventually got over it and made a Necromancer.
EDIT: Frost, you can't I'm 99% sure. Just make one on Battle.Net and you can play alone if you lock the room.
Smartass
06-29-2008, 08:32 PM
My account is FrostFire131 on US East. If you start a char on single player, can you play with that char on Battle.net? I have a level 11 druid right now, and I want to know before I go any further.
Im in the same position man. Do I go strait to multiplayer or what...?
Wreckedem
06-29-2008, 08:42 PM
Im in the same position man. Do I go strait to multiplayer or what...?
Go straight to multiplayer, you can't transfer your char from single player to multi, it's the exact same thing except with players.
IGneois
06-29-2008, 08:51 PM
yeah you can play solo on battle.net , its the same thing..but its so much more fun to play in a group, so play a couple quests by yourself, then jump into an ACT1 game....let the good tiems roll
PsiRedEye22
06-29-2008, 11:36 PM
Do. Not. Buy. The. Digital. Download.
Holy assfuck, I'm going crazy. USEast is INACCESSIBLE for digital downloaders. That's fucking ridiculous.
JiveTurkey
06-30-2008, 12:13 AM
i started playing again a few months ago and im pumped as fuck for D3. LoD came out when i was in like 4th grade and it was one of my first computer games. my account name is Dipset3 on USEast. im dirtnasty with my sorceress, ill bake your cock
puppetmasterjjk
06-30-2008, 12:45 AM
Bitches need to play on US West nonladder.
I've already started 4 new characters today on different accounts/realms/ladders just to play with people.
PattyWackit
06-30-2008, 01:19 AM
Bitches need to play on US West nonladder.
I've already started 4 new characters today on different accounts/realms/ladders just to play with people.
I think USEast is the more popular realm among all us posters
puppetmasterjjk
06-30-2008, 01:41 AM
I think USEast is the more popular realm among all us posters
Yep, by far, I only have one character on east, a level 20 paladin that I started today with GalliensAVG.
Wreckedem
06-30-2008, 02:10 AM
I am having a hard time restarting as a WW barb, I haven't put any of my skill points into any "attack" skills yet, I am saving them for various shouts and WW; this put together with shitstain horrible gear makes it tough lol
Mex1man
06-30-2008, 02:57 AM
I play UsWest ;o lvl 25 Javazon on Hardcore mode, Mex1man is my account,java-Hoe is my toon.
Frostdaddy
06-30-2008, 03:55 AM
Wow, I suck at chatting ingame. puppetmasterjjk, I wasn't answering you because I don;t know how to whisper back. Can't you open up a dialogue box ingame? And can you create a friends list?
Oh, and Firefox says I spelled "dialogue" wrong. Stupid fucks.
Zero-Man
06-30-2008, 04:03 AM
well im actually currently playing with wonderfunk over hamachi we are just about to finish act 1 if anyone cares to join us.
puppetmasterjjk
06-30-2008, 05:17 AM
Wow, I suck at chatting ingame. puppetmasterjjk, I wasn't answering you because I don;t know how to whisper back. Can't you open up a dialogue box ingame? And can you create a friends list?
Oh, and Firefox says I spelled "dialogue" wrong. Stupid fucks.
Oh, well to add friends you type /f a Puppetmasterjjk and to talk to all of your friends type /f m
I'm done for the night.
Rangus
06-30-2008, 08:06 AM
lol i juz found my play disc today that i lost a year ago im fucken so hyped. I started in asia by accident is there a way to get character across coz i already got a lvl 11 paladin
Franky2toes
06-30-2008, 08:12 AM
Gonna download it tomorrow. Hopfully I can enjoy it again because I dont want to waste 40 bucks on it not play it. Last time I played I had people hook me up with gear and rushes.
JiveTurkey
06-30-2008, 10:41 AM
well im actually currently playing with wonderfunk over hamachi we are just about to finish act 1 if anyone cares to join us.
ive used hamachi before but im not familiar with it. how do i connect to you
EDIT: its being a nigger and saying that its denying my login request O_o
Jeffd1985
06-30-2008, 12:24 PM
The first Diablo is were it's at.
Zero-Man
06-30-2008, 01:25 PM
ive used hamachi before but im not familiar with it. how do i connect to you
EDIT: its being a nigger and saying that its denying my login request O_o
Just join the server
Diablorocks
password: fap
once your in the server go into diablo and go to other mulitplayer games (TCP/IP), choose the other option instead of battlenet and join the ip 192.168.1.109
We have version 1.12 and if your in the hamachi server then youl be able to join.. :)
Wattle
06-30-2008, 01:58 PM
Guys, I need a Necromancer build. I want one that makes the things I can summon pwn shit up. I'll settle for a Golem build or a skeleton army build.
Thanks guys, I appreciate your help. <3
Trenaur
06-30-2008, 02:48 PM
yeah, but they have a gameplay video already. Not a ton of gameplay sure, but still. I think that shows that they just have to do everything, development is really all done right now. they just have to make it now.
Obviously you've never been introduced with how Blizzard handles their PR and development schedule for their games.
Wreckedem
06-30-2008, 03:20 PM
Guys, I need a Necromancer build. I want one that makes the things I can summon pwn shit up. I'll settle for a Golem build or a skeleton army build.
Thanks guys, I appreciate your help. <3
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=349093
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=348494
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=366742
Papero
06-30-2008, 05:20 PM
I remember venturing on USWest one time, it felt like a different world, I exited and never returned.
Leesin
06-30-2008, 05:50 PM
Anyone tell me how the fuck i can buy and download online ? i go on my blizzard account but i cant find shit, in the store i can only buy the game for shipping, see nothing about digital download and having the cd keys sent to me, any help would be appreciated.
Even in the Games section of my account management doesnt have it, it even says it will be available soon so that means i cant get it yet ? perhaps its because im in the UK ?. My fucking original cd key rubbed off.
SheBear
06-30-2008, 05:52 PM
Obviously you've never been introduced with how Blizzard handles their PR and development schedule for their games.
I'm not saying that they are going to get it out next week, but I think that they've probably actually finalized all the basic ideas and such for the game, and already created a small section for testing/demo purposes. They just have to make the rest of it, which is obviously going to take forever, seeing as it's blizzard.
Wattle
06-30-2008, 07:03 PM
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=349093
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=348494
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=366742
Thanks man, you helped me out. I think I'm gonna choose the fishymancer build and just let all my bitches handle the foos that take me on.
SheBear
06-30-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm on US East, account name: SheBear, current character, a necromancer called Zaan.
Wattle
06-30-2008, 08:18 PM
Since I'm making my first ever Summonmancer, could I have a total of 30+ monsters at one time if I max out my skeleton (+mage) skill, my revive skill and a golem skill (maybe)?
If so, thats fucking bomb diggity.
Osiris5217
06-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Since I'm making my first ever Summonmancer, could I have a total of 30+ monsters at one time if I max out my skeleton (+mage) skill, my revive skill and a golem skill (maybe)?
If so, thats fucking bomb diggity.
Summoners suck at anything not normal and nightmare difficulty.
Wattle
06-30-2008, 09:02 PM
O rly?
I'm doing PvE, no PvP. I'm making my guy over Hamachi with 2 other friends who don't own the game (why I'm playing on Hamachi, and not Battle.Net).
I was reading up on them and people said they were good in PvE. I doubt I'll play past Normal with this character anyways.
Leesin
06-30-2008, 09:38 PM
O rly?
I'm doing PvE, no PvP. I'm making my guy over Hamachi with 2 other friends who don't own the game (why I'm playing on Hamachi, and not Battle.Net).
I was reading up on them and people said they were good in PvE. I doubt I'll play past Normal with this character anyways.
Could i join you on hamachi ?? have MSN messanger ? PM me if you dont mind me playing.
Wattle
06-30-2008, 10:23 PM
If enough people want me to, I'll just open up a Hamachi server for all of the EBWF users to enjoy.
I'll talk to both of my friends though, we were just going to play at night after work and try to finish it before the end of summer.
Franky2toes
06-30-2008, 10:35 PM
What is Hamachi?
JiveTurkey
06-30-2008, 11:35 PM
me and mah nigga puppetmasterjjk and mah nigga galliens avg were raping infants today. for some reason we couldnt join each others game even though our characters were both ladder softcore so we all made new characters. join the chat channel jjk sometime and we might be there. or xfire me at icedog2400
Edgecrusher
07-01-2008, 01:10 AM
I might get it, but I only feel like playing it on my laptop, which is a Macbook. I'm assuming that it meets the requirements, but I know absolutely nothing about computer specs and the such.
PattyWackit
07-01-2008, 02:41 AM
me and mah nigga puppetmasterjjk and mah nigga galliens avg were raping infants today. for some reason we couldnt join each others game even though our characters were both ladder softcore so we all made new characters. join the chat channel jjk sometime and we might be there. or xfire me at icedog2400
I just rushed those 2 guys in norm.. well wouldnt say rush, more like wait
I am pretty terrible at act 2, but everything else i can do fast
puppetmasterjjk
07-01-2008, 02:46 AM
I just rushed those 2 guys in norm.. well wouldnt say rush, more like wait
I am pretty terrible at act 2, but everything else i can do fast
The poor summoner had to suffer multiple times for that rush. :wah:Nigger.
Ginish
07-01-2008, 03:14 AM
Hey anyone still up? Im on East non ladder softcore. Pm me if you wanna get through normal/nightmare acts with me.
GALLIENVS AVG
07-01-2008, 03:29 AM
I just rushed those 2 guys in norm.. well wouldnt say rush, more like wait
I am pretty terrible at act 2, but everything else i can do fast
So this is who you were.
PattyWackit
07-01-2008, 02:26 PM
this is who i be, and yes my stupid merc killed the summoner twice, hes too strong!
Smartass
07-01-2008, 03:28 PM
Im on East guys.
Account Name: Telnet
Characters:
BindSock - My Necro(Rushed)
ShockDoctor - Lightning Sourc(working with a friend through the whole storyline).
:)
TheFlamer
07-01-2008, 09:08 PM
Im a reguler in mld Nm duels on Europe Nl, Acc- Turbox[1]
Wattle
07-01-2008, 09:55 PM
I just got finished installing D2 and LoD. Me and a few friends are going to start playing at 11 once two of them get back from work.
I haven't played in like 1-2 years and I've never really played single player (no b.net), is gold even valuable other then repairs and buying pots/scrolls? I usually just got rushed and found armor.
Zero-Man
07-01-2008, 10:36 PM
What is Hamachi?
Google it, I dont feel like explaining it sorry
Wattle
07-02-2008, 04:54 AM
I can't wait for Diablo 3. All four of me and my friends started playing, all of them haven't played before and I had a tough time explaining to them how to do everything (portals, running/walking, etc.) but after that we got Act 1 beat in like 4 hours (just got done) and we had a blast over Skype.
Lividum
07-02-2008, 05:54 AM
Fuck. This game pisses me off. I clear every map of enemies and I get to level 21. This guy I know has a barbarian and just runs through quickly, 1 hit killing everything and he's level 18.
Bullshit. My poison creeper/rabies/fury druid can suck a fat chode. I don't know if I should see whether or not fury is worth bothering with at level 30.
Wattle
07-02-2008, 06:50 AM
I'm loving my necromancer, I pretty much cleared Andy with just 7 of my minions. I just hide behind my 7 skeletons, my tank golem (does shit damage, but takes a good amount of damage to kill) and I just amplify damage.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Fuck. This game pisses me off. I clear every map of enemies and I get to level 21. This guy I know has a barbarian and just runs through quickly, 1 hit killing everything and he's level 18.
Bullshit. My poison creeper/rabies/fury druid can suck a fat chode. I don't know if I should see whether or not fury is worth bothering with at level 30.
Haha, I'm exactly in the same position. Except that I'm level 30.
You don't have a 'main' attack yet, which Fury will be.
You should try to get to level 31, and then get a Ribcracker (http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/ustaves.shtml). It should only be about 5 perfect gems.
But if you want to complete this game more easily, you should try a summoner necro. At which act/quest are you?
Leesin
07-02-2008, 07:09 AM
Fuck. This game pisses me off. I clear every map of enemies and I get to level 21. This guy I know has a barbarian and just runs through quickly, 1 hit killing everything and he's level 18.
Bullshit. My poison creeper/rabies/fury druid can suck a fat chode. I don't know if I should see whether or not fury is worth bothering with at level 30.
Probably because the majprity of little creatures you kill arent actually giving you much exp, thats why ur 21 and hes 18, still makes a difference though!.
Leesin
07-02-2008, 07:17 AM
I'm loving my necromancer, I pretty much cleared Andy with just 7 of my minions. I just hide behind my 7 skeletons, my tank golem (does shit damage, but takes a good amount of damage to kill) and I just amplify damage.
Lol, i had a necromancer many many year ago, it was good, for a while, once i was into the later acts/difficulties it sucked though ! got his level pretty high then just one day stopped playing it from how pathetic he was. They should have made the necros minions better in PvE, i had alot and they were strong and theyd still end up dead. Not sure if anything in patches would have changed stuff now, but from what ive noticed if anything dungeons etc are even more difficult !.
My new copy of D2 and LOD will hopefully arrive tommorow ( fingers crossed ) then i'll reinstall and get online !.
Double postttttt
Lividum
07-02-2008, 07:35 AM
Haha, I'm exactly in the same position. Except that I'm level 30.
You don't have a 'main' attack yet, which Fury will be.
You should try to get to level 31, and then get a Ribcracker (http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/ustaves.shtml). It should only be about 5 perfect gems.
But if you want to complete this game more easily, you should try a summoner necro. At which act/quest are you?
I'll continue and see how Fury works. But level 31 seems so far off. This is my second druid already. Last one I fucked up because I didn't know about builds. He had a bunch of different spells that ended up fucking weak since they were so spread out.
I've heard about Ribcracker several times. Is it the best weapon for druid or something? And by those gems do you mean I have to use the Horardric Cube to make it?
I'm on act 2 right now. My other druid was on 3.
edit: Wait. Are these exceptional unique items only in Nightmare mode?
Probably because the majprity of little creatures you kill arent actually giving you much exp, thats why ur 21 and hes 18, still makes a difference though!.
Those bigger ones give me like 1/1000th of my experience bar. It's hardly noticeable. The little ones are in groups which racks up the experience a bit better.
I guess our play styles are different. He goes through shit quick; I focus on killing everything, collecting all the money, and weeding through all the items for something good.
Oh yeah, I made a barbarian called Julia too. But I'm sick of Act 1.
PsiRedEye22
07-02-2008, 07:36 AM
I made a barbarian that just punches shit. I think we should form an army of punching barbarians.
Franky2toes
07-02-2008, 07:49 AM
I made a barbarian also not sure how long ill stick with it. Kinda want to play every class. But I am on USwest and account name is Franky2toes and barbarian name is Frankytoes...yea didnt notice the "2" not being in my name till around lvl 12.
I want to make a teeth necro..with bones spears and all that crap.. and a pally..and a javazon..fuck hard to choose who to play.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 07:50 AM
I'll continue and see how Fury works. But level 31 seems so far off. This is my second druid already. Last one I fucked up because I didn't know about builds. He had a bunch of different spells that ended up fucking weak since they were so spread out.
I've heard about Ribcracker several times. Is it the best weapon for druid or something? And by those gems do you mean I have to use the Horardric Cube to make it?
I'm on act 2 right now. My other druid was on 3.
You'll find various qualities of gems, and if you cube 3 of the same (eg. 3 flawed sapphires), you'll get one of a higher grade (eg; 1 sapphire). Perfect gems & runes are currency. But I'm not sure if it's possible to trade if you don't play on battle.net.
Ribcracker has a fast attack speed (one of the things you're probably annoyed about), and it has 50% crushing blow.
Crushing Blow
This is a chance of reducing a monster's health by X% in a single blow.
-Default: 1/4th
-vs. Players: 1/10th
-vs. Hirelings: 1/10th
-vs. Champions, Uniques, Bosses: 1/8th
The (rabies and/or fury) werewolf is probably my favourite build and character to play with, but it's not the easiest one.
Are you playing on your own? Or on battle.net?
I kinda feel like I sold you a bad car now :(
PsiRedEye22
07-02-2008, 07:51 AM
I made a barbarian also not sure how long ill stick with it. Kinda want to play every class. But I am on USwest and account name is Franky2toes and barbarian name is Frankytoes...yea didnt notice the "2" not being in my name till around lvl 12.
I want to make a teeth necro..with bones spears and all that crap.. and a pally..and a javazon..fuck hard to choose who to play.
Here's what not to play: a Necro that uses teeth.
Franky2toes
07-02-2008, 08:03 AM
Here's what not to play: a Necro that uses teeth.
Not fun or hard to play? I know I had a Necro back in the day but not sure what talents I went with. Well I remember having a shit ton of pets...and using bone walls and teeth and all that crap..fuck did I have 2 necros? Hmm oh well anyways yea well I already have a lvl 4 necro and got some summoning talents.Guess ill just stick with that.
Lividum
07-02-2008, 08:04 AM
You'll find various qualities of gems, and if you cube 3 of the same (eg. 3 flawed sapphires), you'll get one of a higher grade (eg; 1 sapphire). Perfect gems & runes are currency. But I'm not sure if it's possible to trade if you don't play on battle.net.
Ribcracker has a fast attack speed (one of the things you're probably annoyed about), and it has 50% crushing blow.
The (rabies and/or fury) werewolf is probably my favourite build and character to play with, but it's not the easiest one.
Are you playing on your own? Or on battle.net?
I kinda feel like I sold you a bad car now :(
I didn't know you could combine lower grade gems to make better ones. I'll have to mess with that. I still don't get how I'm going to obtain Ribcracker though if I'm not in nightmare mode or whatever.
I'm playing mostly on my own in a TCP/IP game with a friend who does his own shit for the most part. I could technically play on battle.net, but I haven't bothered to reinstall the game and use legit codes yet.
Leesin
07-02-2008, 08:08 AM
I'll continue and see how Fury works. But level 31 seems so far off. This is my second druid already. Last one I fucked up because I didn't know about builds. He had a bunch of different spells that ended up fucking weak since they were so spread out.
I've heard about Ribcracker several times. Is it the best weapon for druid or something? And by those gems do you mean I have to use the Horardric Cube to make it?
I'm on act 2 right now. My other druid was on 3.
edit: Wait. Are these exceptional unique items only in Nightmare mode?
Those bigger ones give me like 1/1000th of my experience bar. It's hardly noticeable. The little ones are in groups which racks up the experience a bit better.
I guess our play styles are different. He goes through shit quick; I focus on killing everything, collecting all the money, and weeding through all the items for something good.
Oh yeah, I made a barbarian called Julia too. But I'm sick of Act 1.
It won't take long to level up to 30+, just speed up the process by hitting all the quests hard, if you want to get extra xp and find items you should find places to do item runs, i.e when im bored and im in act 1 with a new char, from what i remember it was the burial grounds that has 2 dungeons, item runs were good in there even for a new char i'd find some really decent items !, but as i said before, i've no idea if its any different now!. You'll come across places that give you good XP and you'll notice so you can return at a later date for XP runs.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 08:09 AM
I didn't know you could combine lower grade gems to make better ones. I'll have to mess with that. I still don't get how I'm going to obtain Ribcracker though if I'm not in nightmare mode or whatever.
I'm playing mostly on my own in a TCP/IP game with a friend who does his own shit for the most part. I could technically play on battle.net, but I haven't bothered to reinstall the game and use legit codes yet.
Could you make a game, pm/post the details, so I can drop off some stuff for you?
PsiRedEye22
07-02-2008, 08:13 AM
Not fun or hard to play? I know I had a Necro back in the day but not sure what talents I went with. Well I remember having a shit ton of pets...and using bone walls and teeth and all that crap..fuck did I have 2 necros? Hmm oh well anyways yea well I already have a lvl 4 necro and got some summoning talents.Guess ill just stick with that.
No, just ridiculously underpowered as far as skills go. Just trust me on this one.
Lividum
07-02-2008, 08:14 AM
Could you make a game, pm/post the details, so I can drop off some stuff for you?
It's nearly 4:30 AM here, so any chance we can do that tomorrow evening? TCP/IP doesn't work through me (probably something with the firewall, but I don't want to mess with all that crap), so I may reinstall the game and start using battle.net.
IGneois
07-02-2008, 08:19 AM
No, just ridiculously underpowered as far as skills go. Just trust me on this one.
i dont know... you never say anything trustworthy about games in any other threads...
oh fuck DRUID, fury doesnt work well at all, and spirit of the barbs is pretty much a dead skill. if you play druid make it elemental, i tried for the classic tank from back in teh day and tahts long since dead. its a task just to beat meph in normal at level 50...the only thing doing damage is fury. kinda since weapon speed now affects it....it sucks
i guess im forever playing US WEST now, tag is IGNEOIS
No0n3
07-02-2008, 08:28 AM
It's nearly 4:30 AM here, so any chance we can do that tomorrow evening? TCP/IP doesn't work through me (probably something with the firewall, but I don't want to mess with all that crap), so I may reinstall the game and start using battle.net.
Well....this is confusing.
If you will play on battle.net, you'll have to start over. The character you're playing now is a singleplayer one, saved on your computer. If you start on battle.net, they'll be saved on their servers, so they won't be accesible. The items I have I just created using a singleplayer character editor.
So; if you choose battle.net, I won't be able to help, and you'll have to start over again, but you'll probably enjoy the game more. You'll be able to trade, get help, and generally level much faster. example (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001jr2.jpg)
I'd pick battle.net, but you'll have to decide if you want to start over (again). And if you do, you might want to go for an easier build.
edit: just do what you feel like doing, and if you go for bnet, remember you'll need a valid cdkey.
Lividum
07-02-2008, 08:31 AM
Well....this is confusing.
If you will play on battle.net, you'll have to start over. The character you're playing now is a singleplayer one, saved on your computer. If you start on battle.net, they'll be saved on their servers, so they won't be accesible. The items I have I just created using a singleplayer character editor.
So; if you choose battle.net, I won't be able to help, and you'll have to start over again, but you'll probably enjoy the game more. You'll be able to trade, get help, and generally level much faster. example (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001jr2.jpg)
I'd pick battle.net, but you'll have to decide if you want to start over (again). And if you do, you might want to go for an easier build.
I don't know if I want to start again right now. I might finish it solo once with this poison/fury druid and then switch over to battle.net with another Julia or something. So I'll see what I can do about TCP/IP on my side.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 08:43 AM
I don't know if I want to start again right now. I might finish it solo once with this poison/fury druid and then switch over to battle.net with another Julia or something. So I'll see what I can do about TCP/IP on my side.
You can edit your characters yourself if you want, you won't need me for items.
Hero Editor (http://d2sector.net/downloads/index.php?dlid=161)
Item pack (http://d2sector.net/downloads/index.php?dlid=130)
Don't go overboard, just give yourself one or two items, so you won't spoil the game. It's a lot less fun when you've got the best items. Just use it when you get stuck item, quest or level wise.
Lividum
07-02-2008, 08:45 AM
You can edit your characters yourself if you want, you won't need me for items.
Hero Editor (http://d2sector.net/downloads/index.php?dlid=161)
Item pack (http://d2sector.net/downloads/index.php?dlid=130)
Don't go overboard, just give yourself one or two items, so you won't spoil the game. It's a lot less fun when you've got the best items. Just use it when you get stuck item, quest or level wise.
Ah, that's what you meant by making items. I'll bookmark that for now and consider it, but Diablo 2 might lose its appeal to me if I do get items by cheating.
Thanks for the links and all the help though. It'll be useful.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 08:56 AM
Forgot to mention. You can reset your skills as well using that editor.
Good luck :)
puppetmasterjjk
07-02-2008, 02:10 PM
^^^ As well as transfer your items between characters.
But why not use teeth on a necromancer? Is it not a synergy for Bone Spear and Bone Spirit?
irOnlUng
07-02-2008, 02:19 PM
looking for MH. Don't know which version is currently safe. Any help appreciated.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 02:24 PM
^^^ As well as transfer your items between characters.
But why not use teeth on a necromancer? Is it not a synergy for Bone Spear and Bone Spirit?
Low damage. You'll probably also find yourself using bone spear and/or spirit much more, but that shouldn't matter too much because they share synergies.
Quick test shows that damage of a fully synergized lvl 20 teeth would do 299-403 damage, whereas bone spear does 1267-1347, bone spirit 1972-2140. You could think that teeth does more damage because it shoots off more 'missiles', but bone spear goes through enemies, as well as doing 3x the damage.
You could try it though. I found this build (http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=320645). It does look like a fun one, and skill boosters could up the damage substantially according to that. Keep in mind that the 'Marrowalk' bug mentioned in the build has been fixed in the latest patch. As far as I know.
^ironlung, search for "Edge of Nowhere" on google. I don't know what MH is safe, but it's a start.
Zero-Man
07-02-2008, 03:34 PM
Im basically focusing on my Summons for my necro maybe occasionally putting skills into curses but i really would rather have a kickass army
Leesin
07-02-2008, 04:28 PM
Im basically focusing on my Summons for my necro maybe occasionally putting skills into curses but i really would rather have a kickass army
As i mentioned before, later in the game your army will most likely be getting owned, even more owned if you play solo, maybe the summons are better than when i played a very long time ago, but i was very dissapointed.
Wattle
07-02-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm in the same boat Zero, I read a thing though about one of the recent patches buffing Summonmancers.
The_Canadian
07-02-2008, 04:55 PM
Are you guys mostly playing classic or LoD?
Zero-Man
07-02-2008, 05:00 PM
LoD, and im updated to 1.12 so if there's a fix then cool, but my summons are doing really well, they seen to take out anything at this moment.
1 clay golem
3 skeleton warriors
3-skeleton mages
puppetmasterjjk
07-02-2008, 05:10 PM
LoD, and im updated to 1.12 so if there's a fix then cool, but my summons are doing really well, they seen to take out anything at this moment.
1 clay golem
3 skeleton warriors
3-skeleton mages
Sounds good, make sure you're putting points into skeleton mastery, and like 1 point in amplify damage/decrepify or iron maiden or whatever curse you like, don't bother loading many points into the curses though, 1 should be enough for whichever curse you use.
You should be able to kick just about anything's ass up until nightmare, maybe late nightmare if you've found some good gear to use.
Wattle
07-02-2008, 05:18 PM
Currently on my Summonmancer my stats are...
Golem - 1
Summon Skeleton - 7
Amplify Damage - 1
Teeth - 1
I got 9 minions including my bow merc and I just rush around amplifying damage on monsters. I took out Andy almost by myself with the help of a Paladin's aura and assassin's bombs.
I can't wait until I max out my skeletons (melee and mages), get a good golem, and resurrect demons intact.
Leesin
07-02-2008, 05:19 PM
I'm in the same boat Zero, I read a thing though about one of the recent patches buffing Summonmancers.
Hmm if that is true, i may make another online when my new D2 + LOD arrives, i really enjoyed playing my summoner but once i got to high levels it became really shitty and next to useless, i would need other party members to make it even worth playing and of course its useless in PvP and i think i gave up on it in the 60's. But if they are better than before i think i'd have alot of fun again and with the knowledge the higher levels wont be so anti-necro summoner.
Although it will be a hard choice between that and a whirlwind barb as i have fond memories of whirlwinding all over the screen and killing other players.
No0n3
07-02-2008, 05:36 PM
A summonmancer in pvp is funny. He teleports (enigma runeword) on to the enemy, and all of his 20 or so summons are clustered on the enemy.
As far as I know summonmancers aren't that bad. The hardest part is getting the first monster down to spawn the skeletons.
And the common style for summonmancers to play is to use the skeletons as a wall, and wait for the first corpse to drop. Then they use corpse explosion, which does "60-100% of Corpse Hit Points" damage and is deadly when combined with amplify damage.
The focus lies more on corpse explosion than pure skeletons, or at least that's how I played one.
Papero
07-02-2008, 05:49 PM
As i mentioned before, later in the game your army will most likely be getting owned, even more owned if you play solo, maybe the summons are better than when i played a very long time ago, but i was very dissapointed.
With synergies they're different these days, people regularly solo Hell with summon necromancers.
I'm building a hardcore summonmancer, tis fun, safe.
Zero-Man
07-02-2008, 07:09 PM
Ya im going to put some skill points into Iron Maiden but I just got another skeleton mage.. so il make sure to stat up my skele army but I also want golems... like a kickass golem party : D
Wattle
07-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Can't you only have 1 golem at a time?
If not, I gotta get more tank golems!
Zero-Man
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE?
FUck
The_Canadian
07-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Shit, I think I might need to rebuy D2 and the expansion LoD because they don't sell LoD separately anymore.
Zero-Man
07-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Im playing over hamachi so if anyone cares to join ask away lol its really simple.
Wattle
07-02-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm level 16ish, if your close to my level wanna PvP?
I'm not aloud to level without my friends, they would be pissed. lol.
PattyWackit
07-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Anyone good with barbs? I havent played one in a long time mine is currently 52 and my buddy hooked me up with a storm shield. question is Whirlwind good with a sword and shield? cuz I already maxed WW. just gotta make sure
Leesin
07-02-2008, 08:17 PM
Anyone good with barbs? I havent played one in a long time mine is currently 52 and my buddy hooked me up with a storm shield. question is Whirlwind good with a sword and shield? cuz I already maxed WW. just gotta make sure
I USED to be good with barbs, not forgetting i was pre LOD and when it came out i didnt feel id like to switch to it, but if they were anything like before then i would go with dual wield swords or spear, i dont like the idea of a barb with a shield though lol.
Wreckedem
07-02-2008, 09:15 PM
Anyone good with barbs? I havent played one in a long time mine is currently 52 and my buddy hooked me up with a storm shield. question is Whirlwind good with a sword and shield? cuz I already maxed WW. just gotta make sure
WW barbs generally don't use shields, trade it off for some nice one handed swords (Bloodletter for example is a very good WW barb sword)
I'm level 16ish, if your close to my level wanna PvP?
I'm not aloud to level without my friends, they would be pissed. lol.
Are you on USeast ladder? if so whisper my character, his name is WWwreck
Wattle
07-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Nah, hes on hamachi.
I'll probably make a B.Net character soon though.
Wreckedem
07-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Nah, hes on hamachi.
I'll probably make a B.Net character soon though.
oh true, whisper me when you do i can probably help you with act 1 or whatever
Wattle
07-02-2008, 09:50 PM
Ok, I'll try to remember. I usually just run through it on B.Net.
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 12:01 AM
Anyone tell me how the fuck i can buy and download online ? i go on my blizzard account but i cant find shit, in the store i can only buy the game for shipping, see nothing about digital download and having the cd keys sent to me, any help would be appreciated.
Even in the Games section of my account management doesnt have it, it even says it will be available soon so that means i cant get it yet ? perhaps its because im in the UK ?. My fucking original cd key rubbed off.
no idea i have same problem its like they only did the digital download thing for that day or something fucking gay
edit: now its actually up for some reason grab it quick.
FakeShake
07-03-2008, 05:20 AM
If anyone is interested i'm
FakeShake on USWest.
Shoot me a whisper if you you want to play.
Wattle
07-03-2008, 05:38 AM
I'm making a character on USEast, what should it be? I want a character that is good in both PvE and PvP. Possibly better in PvP though. :D
I'm thinking maybe Barbarian.
EDIT: I meant USEast!!
puppetmasterjjk
07-03-2008, 06:01 AM
Low damage. You'll probably also find yourself using bone spear and/or spirit much more, but that shouldn't matter too much because they share synergies.
Quick test shows that damage of a fully synergized lvl 20 teeth would do 299-403 damage, whereas bone spear does 1267-1347, bone spirit 1972-2140. You could think that teeth does more damage because it shoots off more 'missiles', but bone spear goes through enemies, as well as doing 3x the damage.
You could try it though. I found this build (http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=320645). It does look like a fun one, and skill boosters could up the damage substantially according to that. Keep in mind that the 'Marrowalk' bug mentioned in the build has been fixed in the latest patch. As far as I know.
^ironlung, search for "Edge of Nowhere" on google. I don't know what MH is safe, but it's a start.
I thought you were saying not to put any points into teeth, and just use the 1 point for the prerequisite and not max it out for the bonus, my bad.
Anyone good with barbs? I havent played one in a long time mine is currently 52 and my buddy hooked me up with a storm shield. question is Whirlwind good with a sword and shield? cuz I already maxed WW. just gotta make sure
In PvP I see most Barbarians using a Stormshield with Whirlwind. I think that shield is one of the most important things for your barbarian to have, I've always used it with mine.
WW barbs generally don't use shields, trade it off for some nice one handed swords (Bloodletter for example is a very good WW barb sword)
Please do not ever ever ever trade that shield for a shitty Bloodletter, those things give you lots of skills, yeah, but the damage they do is pretty shitty. + skills don't mean much for a barbarian anyway, especially when you're trading off lots of damage for them.
Gooser
07-03-2008, 07:53 AM
Yeh dude, you'd be pretty stupid to trade a stormshield for a bloodletter.
I think barbs only use shield n sword if they know they're gonna be taking bad melee damage. Say if they were fighting assa's in pvp or something. Obviously you do a lot more damage with 2 2 handers though.
everyone add me.
*2inchwhite
PattyWackit
07-03-2008, 01:23 PM
well I know I wouldnt trade stormshield for bloodletter, thats the level 30 red sword right? not worth it. I think im gonna keep it, I could always switch between SS + Sword and 2 Swords
Zero-Man
07-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Whos Karlo-Laptop on the hamachi server cause we usually play at night... just a heads up.
Gooser
07-03-2008, 03:00 PM
Im starting a HC char on UsEast now if anyone wants to play.
*2inchwhite
SYCink
07-03-2008, 03:29 PM
Anyone know if I can torrent original diablo, with a cd key. plz and ty
Zero-Man
07-03-2008, 03:34 PM
You can most likely, the copy I have isnt a real one so I cant play on battlenet
SYCink
07-03-2008, 04:31 PM
I want to play online, can you only play online on battlenet? I don't even know what battlenet is btw. I havn't played diablo in like 5 years.
Wattle
07-03-2008, 06:49 PM
You can't play on Battle.Net (the official online server), but you can join a
Hamachi server or play singleplayer.
SYCink
07-03-2008, 07:03 PM
how do I join a hamachi server, also, if i downloaded a torrent with the key, couldn't I play on battlenet?
Zero-Man
07-03-2008, 07:06 PM
I have a hamachi server were i usually play at night with some people
Diablorocks
password is fap
just join that and once your in il explain the rest.
SYCink
07-03-2008, 07:51 PM
Well I'm off to find a diablo torrent. brb
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 08:52 PM
hell yeaaaaah baby started last night up to lvl 17 with pretty nice gear any one got any high levels they wanna rush me through for 5$?
Rangus
07-03-2008, 09:38 PM
Juz went out and bought the battlechest. Lol the funny thing is there were at least four other people there doing the same thing. I downloaded hamachi but i have no fucking clue what i am doing with it. Halp plz
SYCink
07-03-2008, 09:42 PM
My diablo torrent is 47% done, 50% by the time this post is done. But then I need to download daemon or alcohol. Then apperently download hamachi.
Wattle
07-03-2008, 09:42 PM
1. Open Hamachi
2. Click on the bottom left button.
3. Click on the gear in the bottom right.
4. Click on "change nickname" in the new window.
5. Close that window.
6. Click on the button to the left of the gear.
7. Click on "join network".
8. Enter the information into the new window.
9. Click "join".
That should be it, if anything is worded wrong or incorrect, its because I just made that step-by-step guide from memory. :D
SYCink
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
So I downloaded the torrent, it told me to mount the iso file on alcohol 120, I did. Then I installed the patch and copied the crack to the folder. When I try to play it tells me to put the diablo cd in. what'd I do wrong? What can I do to fix this.
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 10:43 PM
i dont think you copied the crack to the right folder, has to be in your install folder to replace the exe and you have to use that exe.
SYCink
07-03-2008, 10:44 PM
whats my install folder :S
SYCink
07-03-2008, 11:04 PM
K, I re-mounted it. It opened, I clicked install diablo. It popped up and said put in cd...I clicked cancel. What do I do now, with the crack.
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Ok mount it, It should either pop up or if not go into your my computer and click on your virtual drive it made for you. Should pop up, Install it. After its done installing open the folder you installed it to, copy the crack in it and replace the old one, thats it open the game through the exe and play.
SYCink
07-03-2008, 11:23 PM
Do I just drag and drop the crack.zip into the folder or do I have to extract it etc
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 11:24 PM
just drag and drop or copy and paste
SYCink
07-03-2008, 11:24 PM
and what do you mean replace the old one, sorry bout the double posting im just super confused
I drag and dropped, then I click diablo to play, it opens and asks for the cd still
NMpwnsTX
07-03-2008, 11:28 PM
sounds like your not putting it in the right directory, go to my computer > c or d drive what ever you use to install on if you only have one drive then its gonna be c drive > then my programs > diablo 2 and put it in there.
The_Canadian
07-03-2008, 11:29 PM
I tried to download the game, but it wouldn't install. I mounted the install CD, after some clicking is asks for the play CD, I mounted the play CD but it didn't read it, it kept giving me "put play disc in drive". I spent like a day on google looking for solutions. Eventually I said "fuck it" and I took all of my money in my bank account and bought D2+LoD.
SYCink
07-03-2008, 11:32 PM
I did that, and it just doesn't want to work. btw this is diablo 1.
And I just realized after I click cancel (to the put cd in) it says Unable to open required file blah blah.
Problem while trying to load a file
diabdat.mpq
SYCink
07-03-2008, 11:36 PM
I think I'll just try another torrent.
Zero-Man
07-04-2008, 02:02 AM
you have to put all the mpq files from the cd in the diablo directory so it will work without a cd.
SYCink
07-04-2008, 02:40 AM
I didn't have the mpq files, I searched my comp for them and everything.I'll try another torrent, I'm off for tonight.
It's you who plays diablo 1 on hamachi right?
Wreckedem
07-04-2008, 03:06 AM
My whirlwind barb is 47 now with some pretty decent gear, I still love this game as much as ever. I need to start saving for an IK set though.
High On PCP
07-04-2008, 03:31 AM
playing east or west?
Wreckedem
07-04-2008, 04:27 AM
playing east or west?
East on ladder, name is WWwreck
Leesin
07-04-2008, 02:07 PM
My new copy of D2 arrived today, just played for about 4 hours give or take and just this moment pwned andariel, im making a holyshock paladin to see what they are like and so far im liking it alot! solo'd act 1 pretty well, andariel was easy i just stood infront of the bitch holding down my zeal attack drinking health potions and mana potions and she couldnt ever do enough damage to make me need to run.
Wish i could play with you guys but im Europe, probably the only one in the thread who is lol.
Wattle
07-04-2008, 03:15 PM
Ok, I haven't made my new guy yet on Battle.Net.
When I do though, I'm going to be making him on East, should I make a ladder or non-ladder character? I'm not going to play Hardcore (I'm not hardcore enough).
puppetmasterjjk
07-04-2008, 03:34 PM
Ok, I haven't made my new guy yet on Battle.Net.
When I do though, I'm going to be making him on East, should I make a ladder or non-ladder character? I'm not going to play Hardcore (I'm not hardcore enough).
Make him ladder, everyone else on east is ladder as well, so we can help you out.
Zero-Man
07-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I didn't have the mpq files, I searched my comp for them and everything.I'll try another torrent, I'm off for tonight.
It's you who plays diablo 1 on hamachi right?
Were playing Diablo 2 with the Lord of Destruction expansion
Really I have the Mpq Files I could send them to you but im not sure how long that will take, it will be shorter than downloading another copy though...
Im not sure if it will work if i just copy and send you the ones I have in my Diablo 2 Directory.
Leesin
07-04-2008, 05:03 PM
It doesnt take long at all to download D2 and LOD if youve got even a reasonably fast modem and bit torrent or a similiar spin off torrent program. Or you could just like spend £16 and get the full game and play online.
CSPope
07-04-2008, 05:18 PM
I think I'm going to tear my room apart tonight to find my old d2/lod disks and cd keys. I have the originals somewhere and I copied the info on paper so hopefully I find it. Sucks that I abandoned my old accounts and lost all my high levels and badass gear.
Whatever, it's not hard to get back in the game :P
EDIT: Found them!
I reinstalled it a few days ago, i got a 52 barbarian. Not doing too bad.
Lividum, PM me if you want the CD keys, i found my spares.
Leesin
07-05-2008, 06:12 AM
Maybe i'll make a ladder char on USeast (think thats the one most of you play isnt it ?)
Currently my paladin on europe is now level 20, just gonna do some leveling before i go and do the last quest in act 2.
My holyshock paladin is going to own! once i get holy shock at level 24 creatures will be dying just by simply walking near them :D.
Once ive got my paladin to about level 30 or so i might make a char on the US server and see how bad/good the connection is from here in England, if its not to bad ill come play with you guys probably with a summon-mancer or a WW barb, or perhaps a diff paladin.
Zero-Man
07-05-2008, 03:28 PM
Since im going summon/necromancer which golem should i focus on... im going to keep putting all the skills into strength so i can use the armor later on because it doesnt really take mana to summon...lol. Im focusing skills on skeleton army but what which golum should i look into?
puppetmasterjjk
07-05-2008, 03:52 PM
Since im going summon/necromancer which golem should i focus on... im going to keep putting all the skills into strength so i can use the armor later on because it doesnt really take mana to summon...lol. Im focusing skills on skeleton army but what which golum should i look into?
You don't need much strength as a summoner.
As for a Golem, I wouldn't bother putting more than 1 point in any of them and one in Golem Mastery. They're not really worth using any more, even though they're some of the coolest looking summons in the game.
But you don't have to listen to me, play the game however you want to.
Edit:
The Fire Golem has the most health with just one point added, can do the most damage (which isn't much at all), and has the largest mana cost (240 at level 20).
The Clay Golem is the easiest to re-cast because of his low mana cost,(not as low as the Iron Golem, but the Iron Golem requires an item to be used). and also is the only one which increases his health per point. Giving him the most health when maxed out.(10600 with both clay Golem and Golem mastery at 20). His damage at level 20 is still shit, which doesn't matter much, because none of them do enough damage to be very useful anyway.
The Blood Golem also has lots of health with just one point added, it also steals some life from it's enemies for both of you, (About 86% of the damage done at level 1 is stolen, which isn't much at all considering that he only does 6-16 damage at level 1 in normal, and 10-27 in hell). And he also hurts you a little bit when he dies.
The Iron Golem has a thorns ability, which isn't very useful since it only works for him and not the rest of your minions. His damage is shit, and his health is nearly the same as the Fire Golem's. He requires an item to be summoned on, and even with a decent item it still won't be much help.
In the end, I would say that you shouldn't look at the damage as much of a factor, the only major difference in them would be the health. If you have 40 skill points to waste on Golems, you should max out the Clay Golem and Golem Mastery, he will only cost 72 mana to summon and will have 10600 health (about twice as much health as any of the others).
If you're only planning on putting one point in any of them, then it's just your preference, would you rather have a Clay Golem with low health that costs 15 mana, or an Iron/Fire golem with 3-4x more health for a higher cost? Or you can go with the Blood Golem which is kind of in the middle.
TL;DR: Clay Golem if you have 40 points for Golems, otherwise, it's your choice on what to use.
Also, I forgot to share this tool with you all
http://www.d2items.com/skills.php
Zantutsuken
07-05-2008, 06:37 PM
I used to play a Summoner ages ago, I always thought Diablo had the best Necromancer class of any game. Finally got to Hell with the new character today, damned if the pets can stay alive for longer than a minute or two against most big groups, and they seem to do very slow damage even with Amplify. Did they nerf the Summoner or something along those lines? I recall being able to breeze through anything in Hell with just skeletons.
As for the Golem question, though I didn't ever max one back when I played, what available points I had left over after I had maxed the other priority skills I put into Clay Golem. For big boss fights a Clay Golem's slow added with Decrepify would make most hard bosses a breeze.
Slid3r
07-05-2008, 08:03 PM
How do you pull up the inventory for a hired mercenary?
Leesin
07-05-2008, 09:15 PM
How do you pull up the inventory for a hired mercenary?
put the cursor over his picture in the top left and after a second or so itll come up saying RIGHT-CLICK to open inventory, then jus right click it ;).
Wreckedem
07-05-2008, 09:49 PM
put the cursor over his picture in the top left and after a second or so itll come up saying RIGHT-CLICK to open inventory, then jus right click it ;).
This, or hit O
bamboopro
07-06-2008, 12:43 AM
I'm having a bit of trouble upgrading to the expansion. D2 installed fine, but when I attempt to install the expansion it tells me to insert the expansion disk... when it's already in my computer. Yeah, I'm completely clueless on what to do here...
Leesin
07-06-2008, 03:22 AM
I'm having a bit of trouble upgrading to the expansion. D2 installed fine, but when I attempt to install the expansion it tells me to insert the expansion disk... when it's already in my computer. Yeah, I'm completely clueless on what to do here...
I installed just the other day, its the D2 Play cd you insert at start of install i dont know why, but it asked for it and seemed to do stuff with the files, then it asked for the actual expansion cd again.
Osiris5217
07-06-2008, 03:33 AM
Since im going summon/necromancer which golem should i focus on... im going to keep putting all the skills into strength so i can use the armor later on because it doesnt really take mana to summon...lol. Im focusing skills on skeleton army but what which golum should i look into?
You just want to put enough points into strength and dex as the armor you want requires; which means not a lot at all.
Just go with 1 into clay and 1 into mastery. Focus all on skeles and mastery first. Put one point into amplify, iron maiden, and life tap. Later on when you get a lot of skill+ equipment that's the best thing. Also, get a merc from nightmare act 2.
Leesin
07-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Okay i made a Barb on USeast ladder, called Leeohnidas as Leesin was taken -_-, would appreciate if a few of you could add me so i have some people to play with on us east
Maybe i'll make a ladder char on USeast (think thats the one most of you play isnt it ?)
Currently my paladin on europe is now level 20, just gonna do some leveling before i go and do the last quest in act 2.
My holyshock paladin is going to own! once i get holy shock at level 24 creatures will be dying just by simply walking near them :D.
Once ive got my paladin to about level 30 or so i might make a char on the US server and see how bad/good the connection is from here in England, if its not to bad ill come play with you guys probably with a summon-mancer or a WW barb, or perhaps a diff paladin.
What server is your pally on? I might be able to spare a few items. God knows i need the space.
Europe, lol just read. send me a PM when your next on, and we'll make a game and i'll see what i've got.
Rangus
07-06-2008, 07:59 AM
lol anyone whant to fight my open battlenet lvl 91 pally with 99 to all skils?
PsiRedEye22
07-06-2008, 12:26 PM
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to use open battlenet period.
Jonathan
07-06-2008, 12:48 PM
I started playing diablo 2 recently but I need to know how much strength is required for using the sanctuary shield, does anyone know this? I have googled it for the past hour and can't find anything.
No0n3
07-06-2008, 01:06 PM
I started playing diablo 2 recently but I need to know how much strength is required for using the sanctuary shield, does anyone know this? I have googled it for the past hour and can't find anything.
Sanctuary (http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml) is a runeword, requires 3 socket shield.
Large shield (http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/shields.shtml) is the first shield that has 3 sockets. Requires 34 strength. You'll probably want a better one though.
You'll find more item info on that website, so you can pick and choose what shield you'll go for. You want high defense, good block rate, and/or a certain 'type' (light/medium heavy) because of run/walk speed.
Also keep in mind that runes have level requirements, so you won't be able to use sanctuary until you're level 49 (lvl req for the Mal rune).
Jonathan
07-06-2008, 02:06 PM
So you are saying that sanctuary is one of those things you put on a socket? And... all the guides say I should get Sanctuary Shield, what shield should I put the rune on and where can I get both the rune and shield?
No0n3
07-06-2008, 02:18 PM
So you are saying that sanctuary is one of those things you put on a socket? And... all the guides say I should get Sanctuary Shield, what shield should I put the rune on and where can I get both the rune and shield?
Sanctuary is a runeword, and a runeword is a specific combination of runes put into sockets in an item.
You have to find a 3 socket shield that you think is good enough. And the 3 runes. You won't find those that easily, so you'll have to trade. You'll need currency for that; runes/uniques/perfect gems/sets/good items. The only 'quick' way of getting runes worthwhile would be to do the Hellforge quest (http://battle.net/diablo2exp/quests/act4.shtml) on hell difficulty, which gives you a random rune. Can only do it once/character though, and the rune might not be worth enough to trade for the ones that you want.
If you're really new to the game, I'd just play a bit with the items you find and can afford, and maybe just follow the skills laid out in the guides + pick and choose. I think you're getting ahead of yourself.
puppetmasterjjk
07-06-2008, 02:55 PM
Yeah, you're not going to be able to afford a sanctuary shield for a long, long time. Just play with the stuff you find/buy from merchants, or you might get into a game where they give you free gear. No one is going to be dropping anything amazing, though.
Wattle
07-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Wow, I never knew Diablo 2 could run on a mac. I'll install it tomorrow on mine and start playing USEast Ladder, I'll post up my character name and can hopefully start playing with some of you guys.
Jonathan
07-06-2008, 04:31 PM
Oh ok, I thought it was easy to get since it was in the guide I was using xD
Leesin
07-06-2008, 09:48 PM
Oh ok, I thought it was easy to get since it was in the guide I was using xD
Most guides for D2 classes tell you the FINAL equipment to aim for i.e what you'll be using when you've completed your build type, which is usually judged finished at level 80-90, so just do what im doing and get your hands on the best you can as you go along, at a later date you'll get the items your aiming for. Some people spend hundreds of actual dollars to get there whole builds items, i think thats silly and its definately more fun to just play and work towards your items.
Anyone got any ideas on storage space ? my god damn storage is packed of gems, about 8 or so runes and some magic find equipment i made/found.
Wreckedem
07-07-2008, 12:58 AM
just a small update on my barb, 70 now, only missing 2 items of the Immortal King set and going to enter hell in 5 levels. If you're on useast ladder whisper me, WWwreck is my characters name. I can try to help you with whatever
puppetmasterjjk
07-07-2008, 06:05 AM
Most guides for D2 classes tell you the FINAL equipment to aim for i.e what you'll be using when you've completed your build type, which is usually judged finished at level 80-90, so just do what im doing and get your hands on the best you can as you go along, at a later date you'll get the items your aiming for. Some people spend hundreds of actual dollars to get there whole builds items, i think thats silly and its definately more fun to just play and work towards your items.
Anyone got any ideas on storage space ? my god damn storage is packed of gems, about 8 or so runes and some magic find equipment i made/found.
Make a mule account for your extra shit.
Lividum
07-07-2008, 06:33 AM
Oh shit guise, my second Druid is level 27. I'm in the middle of Act III. The groups of knife Fetishes/Flayers plus Bramble Hulks are fun as hell to infect with rabies now that it does over 1k damage. There's some higher level Fetish thing more north on the map that tends to kill my Poison Creeper though.
In other news, Julia the sword-wielding barbarian is level 8 or 9 or something like that and kills everything with one or two hits. It's fun, but lacks the more evasive shit I had to go through with my Druids.
puppetmasterjjk
07-07-2008, 06:40 AM
Oh shit guise, my second Druid is level 27. I'm in the middle of Act III. The groups of knife Fetishes/Flayers plus Bramble Hulks are fun as hell to infect with rabies now that it does over 1k damage. There's some higher level Fetish thing more north on the map that tends to kill my Poison Creeper though.
In other news, Julia the sword-wielding barbarian is level 8 or 9 or something like that and kills everything with one or two hits. It's fun, but lacks the more evasive shit I had to go through with my Druids.
It sounds like you would have fun with an Assassin.
Leesin
07-07-2008, 06:57 AM
went on earlier to start playing nightmare, ended up joining a server and completing all the acts except for killing baal, a few missing quests which ill do later on after ive leveled up some more, but im currently at level 46 (paladin).
Going to play on USeast aswell, i got a level 12 or so barb on there called Leeohnidas and i also just made a necromancer named Kazax
Add them both when your next ingame guys and once ive done some leveling i can come play with ya :P ( USeast ladder )
IGneois
07-07-2008, 09:10 AM
went on earlier to start playing nightmare, ended up joining a server and completing all the acts except for killing baal, a few missing quests which ill do later on after ive leveled up some more, but im currently at level 46 (paladin).
Going to play on USeast aswell, i got a level 12 or so barb on there called Leeohnidas and i also just made a necromancer named Kazax
Add them both when your next ingame guys and once ive done some leveling i can come play with ya :P ( USeast ladder )
you add the account name, not the character name
Leesin
07-07-2008, 09:28 AM
you add the account name, not the character name
Someone had messaged me through my char name though? :S
IGneois
07-07-2008, 09:37 AM
Someone had messaged me through my char name though? :S
i guess you can msg through char name, but adding friends and searching is done through account name,
i only msg through account name though, someone else said it was possible with char name
Leesin
07-07-2008, 11:38 AM
i guess you can msg through char name, but adding friends and searching is done through account name,
i only msg through account name though, someone else said it was possible with char name
so whatever char they might be on theyd still get the message anyway ?
whoever on USeast ladder add leesin666 please!, could probably do with a hand starting off my necro or barb and it would be cool to play with some ebwf members :) was gonna play with nemo on europe but his character isnt ladder now and i started after new ladder :(.
Gooser
07-07-2008, 11:47 AM
Add me you english faggot.
*2inchwhite
I just lost a 74 Hc sorc :/
Leesin
07-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Add me you english faggot.
*2inchwhite
I just lost a 74 Hc sorc :/
lawl gutted faggot.
When i first played ( probably 6+ years ago ) i lost a level 70-80 on hardcore, after that i never played hardcore again and i also dont see the point in doing so ever again, coz it sucked when he died :wah:
Yeah i'll add you when i go on, which will probably be in about an hour.
Gooser
07-07-2008, 11:57 AM
kk. Yeh, i only play hardcore cuz thats what all my mates play on. It is better though. We usually just play in private games so you dont get pk'd or anythin.
It wont take me long to get another hc char back up, if you have someone to help you its piss easyyyyy blad.
zodg1lla
07-07-2008, 01:44 PM
If anybody wants to run me through normal so I can HC with someone on USEast that'd be fun, I know there is the hack, but I don't want to jeopardize my acct.
acct name: zodg1lla
Act name: Pez-B
Us.East Non ladder and Ladder.
I'm rich in nl, so if some serious people want to rip it up, let me know.
Wattle
07-08-2008, 05:34 PM
I currently got a level 19 Fishymancer on USEast Ladder. I'm playing Normal right now, but yeah. Hit me up if you wanna play, character name is Wattle.
Wattle
07-09-2008, 10:14 PM
Anyone got any items they don't want anymore? PM me.
USEast Ladder Softcore.
Wreckedem
07-14-2008, 12:47 AM
Finally finished my IK set and now I am bored :\
PsiRedEye22
07-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Permabanned from useast for a period of 999 days. Maybe thats not so permanent.
GALLIENVS AVG
07-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Permabanned from useast for a period of 999 days. Maybe thats not so permanent.
Lol... why?
Wattle
07-14-2008, 01:01 AM
Finally finished my IK set and now I am bored :\
I started my Barb wanting to make him into a IK WW Barb but I ended up getting bored of trading and stuff. This game lacks the fun it has a few years ago, but it was still fun while I was into it.
Now I'm playing Starcraft: Brood War. :D
Lividum
07-14-2008, 03:26 AM
I'm in Hell with a level 28 Druid. I think I'm going to die a lot now.
edit: Oh shi- I bet I can kill Duriel however many times I want to now. Maybe he has some items for me.
Leesin
07-14-2008, 08:41 AM
Lawl aint got to play much gamez all week but i got 47 paladin on hell and even thts difficult, but i think half my problem is the fact i got shitty resistances and i cba with all the trading atm.
Got a 20somethin barb on USeast, have a necromancer too but progress seemed to slow for my liking, they can kill alot but seem to take alot longer to actually kill everything than it did with my shockadin.
KicktheBaby
07-14-2008, 10:46 AM
Hey I have a question for you D2 genius's. My friend has 2 networked computers so we were planning on playing through D2 together via Lan. Thing is we only have 1 battlechest/1 set of cd keys. I know you don't need the cd in to play, but I also know two people with the same cd key can't play at the same time on battle net. But, can two people with the same cd keys play together via lan?
puppetmasterjjk
07-14-2008, 02:03 PM
Hey I have a question for you D2 genius's. My friend has 2 networked computers so we were planning on playing through D2 together via Lan. Thing is we only have 1 battlechest/1 set of cd keys. I know you don't need the cd in to play, but I also know two people with the same cd key can't play at the same time on battle net. But, can two people with the same cd keys play together via lan?
One person can just get their keys from a key generator, the generated keys will be banned from battlenet but you can use it on lan.
Lividum
07-18-2008, 06:59 AM
This thread shouldn't be this low. Why have you people lost your drive to play Diablo?
I beat him. For fucks sake, that was the best thing ever. It took me like an hour and a half to kill him with a level 30 druid using rabies. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Duriel probably killed me more when I was soloing it earlier.
Now, on to Baal.
PsiRedEye22
07-18-2008, 07:35 AM
I moved on to Titan Quest. Beating d2 on normal made me realize what I hated about it.
Wreckedem
07-18-2008, 09:06 AM
This thread shouldn't be this low. Why have you people lost your drive to play Diablo?
I beat him. For fucks sake, that was the best thing ever. It took me like an hour and a half to kill him with a level 30 druid using rabies. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Duriel probably killed me more when I was soloing it earlier.
Now, on to Baal.
Good luck man, which difficulty? Are you on USEast or Singleplayer?
Lividum
07-18-2008, 09:17 AM
Good luck man, which difficulty? Are you on USEast or Singleplayer?
Single player for now. If I used battle.net, I assume I would be in the west.
Rangus
07-18-2008, 10:21 AM
lol im bored of this now im gonna go play combat arms
Wreckedem
07-18-2008, 01:05 PM
If there are any Necros, Sorcs, or elemental druids on USEast I could give you some gear, post here or send me a PM
EDIT
Any barbarians still playing? send me a PM I've got something nice and free for you.
Slid3r
08-02-2008, 05:26 PM
if i want to install a new copy on LOd onto a different computer can i still use the same D2 CD key that i use on a different computer that has a bnet account?
also, can i have some free stuff if you're not playing anymore?
Smartass
08-02-2008, 06:04 PM
88 Light sorc, US West, Hell.
Account - Teln3t
utterdisturbed
08-05-2008, 06:30 PM
I just started to play this game again. I play on USeast. Anyone want to help me get stuff or play with me?
Kenyan
08-05-2008, 06:39 PM
just reinstalled it yesterday. With my brother, playing over lan. not internet play though :(
but playing over lan. /players 8 you can set the number of players, so u can increase diffulucty and more xp and gold. but then only shared with 2 people.... its awesome. im lv 19 barbarian and bro is lv 18 assassin.
Mysterio
08-06-2008, 11:21 AM
Single player for now. If I used battle.net, I assume I would be in the west.
Liv come and play on us west! ill help you out!
88 Light sorc, US West, Hell.
Account - Teln3t
Ladder or non ladder?
IGneois
08-06-2008, 11:49 AM
ladder west, trying to get a good uber trist team together.
igneois
sxarcisious
add both
Gooser
08-06-2008, 12:28 PM
I moved on to Titan Quest. Beating d2 on normal made me realize what I hated about it.
You should try playing HC, although you probably already have. I find Softcore to be boring after a bit aswell, so once i turned HC i never looked back really.
Lost a few high levels already, 87 assassin, 85 sorc. But got an 84 barb going and leveling another toon up now :)
You should try playing HC, although you probably already have. I find Softcore to be boring after a bit aswell, so once i turned HC i never looked back really.
Lost a few high levels already, 87 assassin, 85 sorc. But got an 84 barb going and leveling another toon up now :)
What server are you on I just started HC on US East Ladder
IGneois
08-08-2008, 01:55 AM
fuck yeah,
fought the diablo clone today, i dont know the whole concoction with sojs and selling, but he appeared in my game. well the words came on the screen 'diablo walks the earth' and i read up on it a few weeks ago so im basically on my mule, so im like fuck no way points..and someone else is in the game so im in a hurry to get diablo spawned before they do, so i run fron act 1 to the cave in blood moore, ran all through the cave and finally found a unique monster that became diablo. waited til everyone left, got my bro on and we killed him for the annihulus or whatever.
it was pretty sweet. now were trying uber trist
Wow this game was collecting dust for years now that I picked up HC ...I can't put it down this is great.
US East if anyone wants in
utterdisturbed
08-20-2008, 03:35 PM
If anyone plays on USeast and ladder, I'm up for it. Reply here.
Zuken
08-20-2008, 10:19 PM
just reinstalled today.
Username: Zuken
go necromancers
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