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cynicist
07-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Is anyone else into him? I have enjoyed his solo work for ages and recently I have started listening to his stuff with the Flecktones which is also amazing.

He is probably my favourite bassists ever and one of, if not the most, talented I have heard. I also love the way he puts so much emotion into everything he plays whether it is fast and furious or slow and melodic.

What do you all think of him?

Sleek
07-01-2008, 02:00 PM
hes amazing. i love his solo with dmb

Keenan
07-01-2008, 02:13 PM
Classical Thump is one of my all time favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FvXUVHECwM

cynicist
07-01-2008, 04:40 PM
I love classical thump. One of my favourites is the live version of "The sinister minister" it has one of the most insane bass solos I have ever heard.

Sleek- "hes amazing. i love his solo with dmb"

You live in the UK, are you going to see him this saturday? It will be the first time I see him live and i'm so pumped about it.

Edit: Wow, only 2 replies, it's seems Victor Wooten is really underappreciated around here. I you have not heard of him I urge you to check him out on youtube.

artifact
07-02-2008, 04:49 PM
ive been a Woot fan for a couple years now. He sometimes does clinics at my local music store. he blows my mind, especially with any double thumbing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czu8TUgWkE8 here's wooten and Beauford from DMB

Roofus55
07-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Ive heard his stuff with bela fleck. Im not exactly a fan, but his bass playing is top notch. Im more of a claypool guy. I fuckin love les claypool.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kA3d5W8o770

Check out that killer bass line from bonnaroo this year.

puppetmasterjjk
07-02-2008, 05:34 PM
I remember watching a bass battle between him and his brother on youtube a while back, pretty good shit from what I recall.

Ernie Shiester
07-02-2008, 06:08 PM
Great bass player but just too fucking much for me. I'll take Marcus Miller's style any day of the week over that guy.

cynicist
07-02-2008, 06:29 PM
Great bass player but just too fucking much for me. I'll take Marcus Miller's style any day of the week over that guy.

I love Marcus Miller too. I think you have to listen to Wooten for a while before you really appreciate him. When I first heard him I appreciated his skill but didn't particularly enjoy the music. I had the same experience with Primus and Dream Theater (two of my favourite bands now).

I found after listening to him some more and checking out a wide range of his material I began to really enjoy his music. If you are new to him I recomend listening to some of his stuff with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones before moving onto his solo music.

psychomonkey62
07-02-2008, 08:10 PM
Well, he's obviously gonna be good.

He's black.

Frostdaddy
07-02-2008, 09:25 PM
Ive heard his stuff with bela fleck. Im not exactly a fan, but his bass playing is top notch. Im more of a claypool guy. I fuckin love les claypool.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kA3d5W8o770

Check out that killer bass line from bonnaroo this year.

Holy wah-wah on the cello. Kick ass.

EDIT: This unedited version is better. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gAlYfDnVt6g&feature=iv

Sorry, back to Wooten. He's good.

Ernie Shiester
07-03-2008, 12:36 AM
I love Marcus Miller too. I think you have to listen to Wooten for a while before you really appreciate him. When I first heard him I appreciated his skill but didn't particularly enjoy the music. I had the same experience with Primus and Dream Theater (two of my favourite bands now).

I found after listening to him some more and checking out a wide range of his material I began to really enjoy his music. If you are new to him I recomend listening to some of his stuff with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones before moving onto his solo music.

I can't listen to the Flecktones for more than five minutes at a time because Futureman bugs the shit out of me. Nothing personal against him, and I have heard he is a monster behind a trap-kit (and I'm sure he's a heck of a nice guy as well), but for whatever reason the prolonged exposure to any synth-sounding drums gives me a severe headache - unless they are used tastefully as accoutrements to an acoustic kit a la' Billy Cobham or Jack DeJohnette.

I'm not too keen on the voice of the electric banjo as the primary solo instrument in a fusion group either - it sounds great for bluegrass but after three or four fusion-type songs...the novelty starts to wear off and the fact that the banjo is so percussive (i.e. no sustain) makes it a bit brittle to hear after a while. Still, when I listen to Wooten, whether it is his solo stuff or early 90's Flecktones, it is obvious to me that the man and usually all the players he is with are a true virtuosos. And he does have a tremendous sound.

Bass was my first instrument and it is rare when I can't hear something on bass and almost intuitively know how its done on the neck - whatever it is. I've just logged so many hours on the damn thing and my brain has fired whatever synapses it takes that tell me what to do when I pick it up so many times...its almost intrinsic to me. That and 90% of all bass lines are generally pretty simple....

I remember I saw Bela and the Flecktones open up for DMB - I guess it was around 1999 or 2000 - we were a little late and we walked in during the middle of Fleck's set....Wooten was doing a bass solo and I was absolutely floored and couldn't for the life of me figure out WTF he was doing to get the sounds that I was hearing. It made a real impact on me. This was, of course, before YouTube and his instructional videos, which I, like everybody else, watched religiously for a while when they came out and were first posted.

tl;dr

...great bass player but (for me...strictly my personal taste) he's just not up there on the list of things I want to listen to right now (which, by the way, in case you are interested, today was off the top of my head: Tom Kennedy, Jonas Hellborg, “Ready” Freddy Washington, Pino Palladino, Steve Rodby and John Patituci - now there's some MF bass guitar for ya'!).

alexpan
07-03-2008, 12:45 AM
You can download and listen online : http://www.musicf5.com/search/Victor-Wooten/1/mp3

Ernie Shiester
07-03-2008, 12:53 AM
Really? Gee you can download music and listen to it streaming on the internet now?

How cool. I really have to turn this box on more often...I like the pretty blue light anyway.

:rolleyes:

Roofus55
07-03-2008, 01:32 AM
Holy wah-wah on the cello. Kick ass.

EDIT: This unedited version is better. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gAlYfDnVt6g&feature=iv

Sorry, back to Wooten. He's good.

wow thanks!

temp100
07-03-2008, 03:36 AM
He's a great bassist with a nice sense of melody, but I think he does go a bit over the top at times. A pioneer.

cynicist
07-05-2008, 09:39 AM
I can't listen to the Flecktones for more than five minutes at a time because Futureman bugs the shit out of me. Nothing personal against him, and I have heard he is a monster behind a trap-kit (and I'm sure he's a heck of a nice guy as well), but for whatever reason the prolonged exposure to any synth-sounding drums gives me a severe headache - unless they are used tastefully as accoutrements to an acoustic kit a la' Billy Cobham or Jack DeJohnette.

I'm not too keen on the voice of the electric banjo as the primary solo instrument in a fusion group either - it sounds great for bluegrass but after three or four fusion-type songs...the novelty starts to wear off and the fact that the banjo is so percussive (i.e. no sustain) makes it a bit brittle to hear after a while. Still, when I listen to Wooten, whether it is his solo stuff or early 90's Flecktones, it is obvious to me that the man and usually all the players he is with are a true virtuosos. And he does have a tremendous sound.

Bass was my first instrument and it is rare when I can't hear something on bass and almost intuitively know how its done on the neck - whatever it is. I've just logged so many hours on the damn thing and my brain has fired whatever synapses it takes that tell me what to do when I pick it up so many times...its almost intrinsic to me. That and 90% of all bass lines are generally pretty simple....

I remember I saw Bela and the Flecktones open up for DMB - I guess it was around 1999 or 2000 - we were a little late and we walked in during the middle of Fleck's set....Wooten was doing a bass solo and I was absolutely floored and couldn't for the life of me figure out WTF he was doing to get the sounds that I was hearing. It made a real impact on me. This was, of course, before YouTube and his instructional videos, which I, like everybody else, watched religiously for a while when they came out and were first posted.

tl;dr

...great bass player but (for me...strictly my personal taste) he's just not up there on the list of things I want to listen to right now (which, by the way, in case you are interested, today was off the top of my head: Tom Kennedy, Jonas Hellborg, “Ready” Freddy Washington, Pino Palladino, Steve Rodby and John Patituci - now there's some MF bass guitar for ya'!).

You certainly know your music. Can you recomend me some albums?

Ernie Shiester
07-05-2008, 07:45 PM
I guess the only real thing I know about music is what I like...?

I dunno...you listen to Geddy, Myung and Claypool...that covers the intelligent-rock genre pretty well. You probably already enjoy Chris Squire, Entswistle, JPJones, Waters, Sting and Tony Levin...Paul McCartney...etc.

I guess try to also listen to a little of what those guys are missing: funk/dance...whatever its called. All those guys are too "white". They don't seem to have that heads snapping - let's groove tonight -in your face uhhhhfunk. Maybe Claypool does on some of his stuff...but its so a-tonal, it kind of defeats the purpose a bit it seems.

I guess bass is not commonly thought of as an instrument capable of expressing great joy...when you combine that deep bottom-end with something simple that grooves, people start dancing. To me, as a bass player (and a listener) - nothing is more satisfying.

Lord Gold
07-07-2008, 11:01 PM
If you don't like Victor Wooten, you fail.

cynicist
07-08-2008, 06:09 AM
I saw him play in Jazz Cafe on Saturday. It was a great show. I thought it was even better than most of the stuff on youtube. They didn't allow cameras or videos in sadly, but if you get a chance to see him live I reccomend you do so.


He and Reggie (his brother) stayed after the show and I got chatting to them. Both really nice, friendly guys and both of them staggeringly modest.