I think he deserved castration.

[Kanism]

Arizona man was sentenced 200 years for owning THOUSANDS of pieces of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY (one video was a RAPING of a FOUR YEAR OLD girl)...there are some that are saying this is too harsh a sentence...I say it isn't harsh enough....what do you kids feel?

[satin]

i think that if this man whould have undergone some sort of phycoanalysis this would have never happend and im pretty sure that his odd behavior was not a mystery.

[shade]

I think he needs to help police find the people who MADE the porn with the possibility of some sort of deal.

[Kanism]

that's what I was thinking, shade...but, that was never mentioned...his ass is gonna be killed once he gets in prison anyways.

[Instigator]

Originally posted by Kanism
...his ass is gonna be killed once he gets in prison anyways.
I sincerely hope so. I think mandatory counseling should be part of his sentence...although if I were his counselor I'd be strongly tempted to put him out of his misery when he wasn't looking.

This sounds a bit Stalinist, but do we really need people like him eating our food, using our sewage system, using MY fucking tax dollars to live off of? We work all day and pay our taxes to the government....so that Mr. I-enjoy-4-yr-old-rape can have a biscuit to eat?

Sickos like him aren't only prevalent in our culture, either.
In India it was common belief that having sex with someone underage would cure AIDS..

[Kanism]

Originally posted by Instigator
using MY fucking tax dollars to live off of? We work all day and pay our taxes to the government uh oh...someone from the "left wing" expressing "conservative" sentiment.... ;) I know it's taken out of context :D

I agree...I'm sick of all these sexual offenders and predators living off of our tax dollars...I think I heard somewhere also that they are having to put sex offenders in separate prisons than regular convicts/felons because the "regulars" would beat the shit out of them...hell, I say put them together "kill" two birds with one stone.

[Instigator]

yeah..the real problem we need to deal with, though, is how to prevent there from being so many of these guys in the first place...

[Delta]

I have a funny story for you all. I was friends with a prosecuting lawyer for a time and he told me this. There was this crack head that was in the process of being busted for selling dope or whatever. There were two cops, and in the process of getting him he shot and killed on officer. That guys partner decided to take matters in his own hand. Long before the hearing, he took that guy to an overcrowded holding cell. As he threw the perp in, he said very loudly "That will teach you for molesting little girls!!"

He came back two hours later to find the guy with both arms and both legs broken. He also had a heavy concussion, 4 broken ribs, internal bleeding and was basically a tenderized Muther Fucker. Maybe they should do that to this guy. Put him in a group cell with a bunch of guys who have little kids and let justice find its own way.

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by satin
i think that if this man whould have undergone some sort of phycoanalysis this would have never happend and im pretty sure that his odd behavior was not a mystery. I don't know what you do or plan to do for a living but you should consider being a social worker. Most of them also spew the same kind of psychobabble as you do. Everyone is a victim to those people and nobody has to take responsibility for their behavior. If it was YOUR child on one of those tapes, you wouldn't be talking about analysis. You'd want his fucking head on a stake. I agree he should be put in prison in general population for the rest of his life. Then he might realize what it's like to be a victim. Enjoying a four year old being raped is not "odd behavior", it's evil. Despite what all the bleeding hearts say some people are just born that way. Since he likes video so much, it would be funny if the prison guards made a video of the other inmates beating the shit out of him. I'd love to watch that video so I could laugh my ass off. Then I'd upload it to Kazaa so the rest of the world could enjoy it too.

[Dumbass]

I think we need to get some totally awesome hackers (I know a few really good ones they get into the school's computers no prob) and they need to find out everything about these places they can. Meaning all their IP's, all their viewers' IP's, credit card #s, and destroy all of it. Find out where the owners live and bust 'em, give them 35 or more years in prison, and then after that they can't leave their home within a 30 mile radius. How can one possible EVER justify watching any kind of child having sex? By default it has to be rape; come on no 4 year old would ever want to have sex!

[shade]

Instigator... if you have a 200 year sentence there is no point of counseling. Counseling is only good if the person is going to be reintroduced to society at a later date.... unless you are going to counsel him for his break out of jail date, there is no need of it.

[satin]

Originally posted by shade
Instigator... if you have a 200 year sentence there is no point of counseling. Counseling is only good if the person is going to be reintroduced to society at a later date.... unless you are going to counsel him for his break out of jail date, there is no need of it.

use him as a training tool

[chris_78660]

i was going to say the exact same thing shade...
how ironic is it that rapists and killers have a feeling of morals to torture child molesters?

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
Ah...only in America...
america, unlike other middle easter countrys, does not encourage the raping of 15 year old girls. women have the right to chose what they do with their life....ah, only in america

[BigMattTheHobo]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
Ah...only in America...

actually you could find child pornography and child rape in any country, America is prolly one of the hardest places to find it. i know in Europe there are countries where the legal age to be in porn is something like 15. in the middle east, isnt it pretty common to have a older guy married to a young girl?

[droogsteve]

In the middle east you get in more trouble for abusing your camel than your wife or child.

[anjroo11688]

that guy that had all of that child por, i think his sentace is appropiate, but........... Instead they should make some big gay prision man rape him continously.

[droogsteve]

I don't think they would have to "make" anybody rape his child molesting ass in prison. I think they'll be lining up to do it without any encouragement at all.

[Nocturnal]

Child molestors are kept in isolated custody in prison, because most of the time they are killed pretty quickly if kept in gen pop.

Side note, remember that guy that was on Americas most wanted for possibly kidnapping Elizabeth Smart? He was inocent but died from an "accident" ;) in prison. Most likely he was beaten to death by fellow inmates.

[shade]

ah theres riki, i missed him.

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
Unlike in your stupid country, if anyone even thinks about doing something like this in the middle east they are shot.

Our holy book says not to have sex with the same sex, children or animals and that's exactly what we do, unlike you infidels. Shut the fuck up, stupid. This kind of shit happens constantly in the middle east but is not talked about. Children, especially girls, are considered property and are abused both physically and sexually far more frequently than in this country. If a little girl was actually brave enough to go to authorities, she would be blamed for somehow "tempting" her father and face brutal punishment. As for your "holy book": it also says not to kill others or yourself. So we can see how much those assholes pay attention to their "holy book."

[Kanism]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
Our holy book says not to have sex with the same sex, children or animals and that's exactly what we do, unlike you infidels. so, if I am reading this correctly...you are saying that you do have sex with other hemaphrodites, kids that aren't faster than you, and crippled or tied down animals? you sick little girl...


back on topic, the prison population does have some strange honor code....when Dahmer was finally put in prison...his head was bashed in the toilet...I'm all for putting convicted sex offenders in gen pop...let prison justice handle what court justice cannot.

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by Nocturnal
Side note, remember that guy that was on Americas most wanted for possibly kidnapping Elizabeth Smart? He was inocent but died from an "accident" ;) in prison. Most likely he was beaten to death by fellow inmates.
he died of a heart attack...and he wasn't completely innocent, just in this situation he was.

Originally posted by riki
Our holy book says not to have sex with the same sex, children or animals and that's exactly what we do, unlike you infidels.
wrong.
before we cleaned up afganistan, men were having sex with other men because their 'holy book' (i think it was the kuran, but i have no idea how to spell it) prohibited sex before marrage with women. and what exactly do you call a child? 4 years? or 18 years like we do in the states?

[Bergs]

girls dress slutty like they do in America, and thus they tempt their fathers and must be punished. But the father does not have sex with the girl, he kills her. Have you never heard of honour-killings?

Oh theyre for "honour" Then they must be ok. You are a fucking moron. As well as a hypocrite. Shut up and go away. Nobody likes you.

[droogsteve]

Bullshit. The father has complete authority to use his daughters as he sees fit without fear of retribution from authorities. Many use their daughters sexually and then blame the little girls instead of their own perversion. This is a common practice in arab countries and is not talked about with westerners. I wouldn't worry about it though, Rik. To have children you need to have sex with an actual woman. I really don't see that happening for you anytime soon.

[Bergs]

Oh and one more thing. Saudi Arabia is infected by America? This is the same fucked up oppressive country that wouldnt let girls escape from a burning building because they were not properly covered. There is nothing American about them. They are the absolute worst of muslim society. Again, shut the fuck up.

[Dumbass]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
In some countries like Saudi Arabia which have been infected with the cancer of American ideas,
Yet here you sit, talking to Americans, "infecting" only yourself. Why do you come here if all that happens to you is you become "infected"? GO AWAY YOU STUPID HYPOCRITICAL INFIDEL!

[Treeves]

Originally posted by Rikimaru

Our holy book says not to have sex with the same sex, children or animals and that's exactly what we do, unlike you infidels.

Your lieing there because I know a "war hardened Afgainy" That sucks a certain some ones dick.

In some countries like Saudi Arabia which have been infected with the cancer of American ideas, girls dress slutty like they do in America, and thus they tempt their fathers and must be punished. But the father does not have sex with the girl, he kills her. Have you never heard of honour-killings? You sick fuck.And I would rather dress sluty than dress like a fucking mumey and shave my head when i get married.

[Bergs]

He came back two hours later to find the guy with both arms and both legs broken. He also had a heavy concussion, 4 broken ribs, internal bleeding and was basically a tenderized Muther Fucker. Maybe they should do that to this guy. Put him in a group cell with a bunch of guys who have little kids and let justice find its own way.

Ah yes... Mob justice. The only kind of justice

[Delta]

You know what Rikki? I actually have to thank you for something. You see as an adult, I have a job. This job has been rather stressfull for the last 2 weeks. But seeing you come back and then having everyone here run a train on your ass has had me laughing for the past 4 hours.

You just need to keep it going ok? No one actually thinks that you arent full of shit, but your funny as hell.

[satin]

rik im sorry to say but the fact is that the middle east is a very mentaly unsound place. because of the oppression that they have recived for many years they (the whole of the middle east) have a pent up rage and narcissist need for power. at a very young age boy in the middle east are made to feel subhuman and there father is the man i.e. rule makes and inforcer. and when the young boy is old enough to have his own wife and childern he can finally act out his narcissist need for acceptance now he can abuse like he was once abused. thuse instilling in another generation mental unstabilty. don't get me wrong this is also happening in america and all around the world for that matter. case and point is how most black people are treated in the southern united states. the father will rase his child under a strict hand. thuse the child will be unable to develope a tue sence of "self" and once he learns (subconsciously) that he can hate black he has now become his father and the blacks his son.

many of you will want to debat this with me but it is far to much to get into on the internet.

[Dumbass]

Originally posted by Rikimaru
You don't know anything about or society, typical ignorant Americans. Saudi Arabian youth have been infected by the cancer of American society, that's why you see girls dressing slutty and boys listening to rap. Its because of the shameful performance of the royal family and their disgraceful lack of censorship. They are the worst islamic leaders in history.
You already said that a long time ago, there's no need to bring it up again. Again, here you sit, "infecting" yourself with our American ideas. You stupid hypocrite, why don't you JUST LEAVE?!

[wils0646]

thuse instilling in another generation mental unstabilty. don't get me wrong this is also happening in america and all around the world for that matter. case and point is how most black people are treated in the southern united states. the father will rase his child under a strict hand. thuse the child will be unable to develope a tue sence of "self" and once he learns (subconsciously) that he can hate black he has now become his father and the blacks his son.

Yea, that's definitely true. The parents have so much influence on how a child is brought up. If the father hates, the child will most definitely follow and have the direct effect of hate. It takes a very strong will of the child to realize the hate as wrong. There's no harsher influence than that of the parents.

[Delta]

case and point is how most black people are treated in the southern united states. the father will rase his child under a strict hand. thuse the child will be unable to develope a tue sence of "self" and once he learns (subconsciously) that he can hate black he has now become his father and the blacks his son.
Nope. That there is a very broad and VERY uninformed generalization based on what happened 30 years ago. You people need to stop seeing the south as a bunch of hicks or cowboys who rope cattle and hang blacks on the spare time. Do you realize that a large percentage of people living in Texas come from other states? Including many from up north. So unless you have polled every southerner, you really cant make a statement like that.

And Wills... Some of what you said is true, but that does not make it the norm as well. My father is a very racist man. And when I was growing up, all I heard was, (and please excuse the language) "Nigger this" and Spic that and all those damn gooks.

But here I am today. Im not racist and I have many friends from many races. So sure, what you said is possible, but with the way people can be informed now, they are less likely to take their fathers ideas as the word of God.

[wils0646]

And Wills... Some of what you said is true, but that does not make it the norm as well. My father is a very racist man. And when I was growing up, all I heard was, (and please excuse the language) "Nigger this" and Spic that and all those damn gooks.

Yea, I agree with you there too. It's less predominant than in the Arab world. That's another good thing about the United States. We are so integrated with different races and now children are brought up in an integrated school system and integrated social activities. We can make our own decisions and we can break away from our parent's beliefs. My grandpa is somewhat the same way. He lived in a small white town in North Dakota. He never saw very many blacks or any other race. He sees them as different people than us because of their race.

I'm glad that people like you can just ignore or block out your dad's views and make your own moral choice.

[satin]

just so you know i don't really concider texas part of the south it is more south west like new mexico. I had a very good time in texas. and the racism is still there in the south. they just found out that you can do it with out most people knowing.

[chris_78660]

i think you are generalizing texas, and ruining you point.
go to houston, dallas, corpus, harlingen, abalene (sp?) and you will see that things are much different. where did you go when you came to texas?

[satin]

i went to houston

[chris_78660]

how could you think that houston was racist???!!!
any white person would be afraid to say nigger or wet back. however, houston has the highest crime rate in texas.

edit: i think i missunderstood your post...did you say that texas has a wy of hiding racism?

[satin]

no what i ment was that texas is not as rasist as otherstates and it would be better to be put in a cadagory with az. or nm. not georga or alabama

[chris_78660]

because of its extremely large border with mexico, texas has many more minoritys that most other states. to group us with georgia, alabama, etc...would be a bad comparison. but where are you getting your facts about our level of racism?

[satin]

isn't it common knowledge that texas is less racist then georgia and alabama.that is why when people talk about racism in the south i don't think of texas

[minia]

I see what you are trying to say Satin, and I think you are probably right. There is so much land out here and as a result soooooo many people have moved here that it is very hard to be racist. Of course I am assuming that racism stems from ignorance and thereby from lack of knowledge of other people. There is a certain air when you are in the South in some places but don't let that taint a place that cna be very beautiful.
And in reference to what Delta said....I think your parents definitely affect how you think but it can go either way. I saw that some of my relatives were pretty ignorant but it made me realize how wrong they were. Some people however may not be so observant....

[satin]

yeah just like most kids will like the same sports teams or car companys as there parents

[LooLoo]

Hi all....haven't been here for a while, forgot how much fun was to be had.

I dont want to go anywhere near Rikis statement cos he is so full of shit and I am now quite convinced that he justs posts to rile us up...

Ahhh racism...I was like you Delta, grew up with a very racist father (didnt help that we lived in south Africa at the time) I was determined to be the total opposite and I was.....for a while.

I'm still not like him in every aspect (i.e every black person is a piece of shit, I know that's not true) but Im getting uncomfortably close to his view. Why?? Check out the crime stats of any state, county or city in the US. I know I'm repeating myself but: facts are facts. I dont give a shit about all the socio economic blah blah blah. I'm just sick of seeing all the violence that black people generate.

P.S Why is it that when there is a murderer/rapist on the loose, and a news station broadcasts the facts....the perps race is not given???? Does this happen in your state too? Surely, (please don't call me shirley:) ) the one most identifiable factor would be the color of a persons skin......But no, one must not offend the AA community by broadcasting nightly shots of their race accused of crimes, even though it means that those criminals can go on and commit more crimes. Sheez, what is the world coming to!!
(I sound like my Grandma:eek: )

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by LooLoo
I'm just sick of seeing all the violence that black people generate.

just because black people might be the ones COMMITING the crimes, does not mean that they are fully responsible for CREATING them. if i couldn't find a job or couldn't get my government/society to support me in a time of need, you can bet your last dollar that i will do what ever i can to feed myself/family. every case should be looked at individually, but you are right...stats are stats. just don't let the numbers 'dumb' you to think that a generalization is acceptable. thinking like that will only get you verbally raped in debates/conversations.
btw, kudos on your "airplane" reference...i use that line too often;)

[minia]

Also you are not looking at ALL crime. You are focusing on the crime most likely to be commited by ANYONE in their situation or demographic. Those who are poor and with little education are more inclined to commit robberies, thefts, drug enfractions, etc, etc. I mean look at white collar crime.... mostly commited by whites because they are the majority. Serial killers are typically white males in their early thirties and those are crimes commited for absolutely NO reason, NO GAIN. I would save my anger for those individuals....

Oh and I did not see where you are form but in Austin they say the race, heighth, weight, etc, etc regardless if it is white or hispanic or black. Or at least they give as much info as they have....

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by chris_78660
just because black people might be the ones COMMITING the crimes, does not mean that they are fully responsible for CREATING them. if i couldn't find a job or couldn't get my government/society to support me in a time of need, you can bet your last dollar that i will do what ever i can to feed myself/family. That's bullshit. It's also insulting to the vast majority of poor people, both black and white. They work like dogs for very little pay, sometimes two or three jobs because they are good moral people who refuse to use their poverty as an excuse to commit crimes. People who sell drugs or rob do it because it's easier and better paying than working hard. There are government programs to help, and there should be no shame in using one to get back on your feet. What you hear all the time is "Fuck that, I aint working in McDonalds for $6.50 an hour" so they rob or sell drugs instead. For every asshole that chooses crime there are ten people who choose the hard work and low pay. I'll save my sympathy for them.

[chris_78660]

i don't pitty the violent fucks that look for the easy way out. my point was to look at each case individually and not generalize on such a broad topic. crime has many categorys, as well as the areas they are commited at.

[william]

Originally posted by Kanism
Arizona man was sentenced 200 years for owning THOUSANDS of pieces of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY (one video was a RAPING of a FOUR YEAR OLD girl)...there are some that are saying this is too harsh a sentence...I say it isn't harsh enough....what do you kids feel?

i think they should force the guy to drop the soap every day of his sentence

[Instigator]

lol good one william

itd be a regular routine..right after he finishes his bran muffin and orange juice, to the shower room he goes.

[Delta]

We should prosecute criminals the way they did in Starship Troopers.

You catch the guy in the morning, Say hes guilty at noon, and execute him that evening. All time zones, All channels.

[Odinbob]

I like the Strarship troopers form of goverment too, We could all benifite from Facism and Bug killing :D