View Full Version : Kratos VS The Incredible Hulk
bobscott
08-11-2008, 04:52 PM
Thats the Edward Norton version of the hulk. Not the pussy lime-colored one from 2004.
I personally think Kratos. Even without magic, could kill hulk.
Me and my friends had a pretty heated debate about this one night. Just wanting to see what you all thought.
aooga12
08-11-2008, 04:59 PM
yeah, because hes from sparta or w.e... just makes him a badass, MAN i wish i could play that game... (i have a 360)
bobscott
08-11-2008, 05:04 PM
yeah, because hes from sparta or w.e... just makes him a badass, MAN i wish i could play that game... (i have a 360)
Just get a PS3. GOW3 is going to come out on it. And you can play the other two on there as well.
PsiRedEye22
08-11-2008, 05:04 PM
Everyone knows Kratos is invulnerable if you get the button sequences right. Hulk doesn't have those.
Mr.SelfDestruct
08-11-2008, 05:07 PM
The Hulk. No question about it.
I mean, he gets stronger as he gets angrier. Pain makes him angry. He regenerates. He can leap hundreds of feet into the air. The dude can rip a car in half with his bare hands.
Sure, Kratos is pretty gangster too. But let's face it here... He can be defeated by a couple of minotaurs if he's not careful.
aooga12
08-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Just get a PS3. GOW3 is going to come out on it. And you can play the other two on there as well.
i would get a ps3 if i had the money... good games for it just like the 360.
fIght_thaNe
08-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Hulk very stronge.
YcageL
08-11-2008, 09:35 PM
Hulk wont be losing to this shitty character.
Kratos no doubt.
Imagine The Hulk as a boss in GoW3. How random would that be?
potatopaper
08-11-2008, 10:03 PM
Kratos can kill enemies 100 times bigger than the Hulk.
bobscott
08-11-2008, 10:38 PM
Hulk wont be losing to this shitty character.
How is Kratos shitty?:err:
YcageL
08-11-2008, 11:14 PM
Edit #3
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Sepharih
08-12-2008, 01:33 AM
This depends on exactly one thing...is Kratos the God of War when this fight takes place. If so, he's got a genuine shot and he'd have my bet (Thor can beat the Hulk as well). If not...he's out of his weight class, even with Magic. I don't know Marvel lore as well as DC, but I don't think that the Hulk has any inherent weakness to magic like Supes does.
Wu-tang
08-12-2008, 02:01 AM
The Hulk. No question about it.
I mean, he gets stronger as he gets angrier. Pain makes him angry. He regenerates. He can leap hundreds of feet into the air. The dude can rip a car in half with his bare hands.
Sure, Kratos is pretty gangster too. But let's face it here... He can be defeated by a couple of minotaurs if he's not careful.
Kratos owned Ares...as a mortal. God of War > Hulk.
Sepharih
08-12-2008, 02:55 AM
Kratos owned Ares...as a mortal. God of War > Hulk.
That was only with the power of Pandora's box, and keep in mind that under the right circumstances the Hulk can take on Gods as well.
Avalanche4691
08-12-2008, 02:59 AM
Kratos. The Hulk has the size and strength advantage, but Kratos is speedy and nimble.
YcageL
08-12-2008, 03:06 AM
Kratos. The Hulk has the size and strength advantage, but Kratos is speedy and nimble.
:dunce:
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Mr.SelfDestruct
08-12-2008, 11:14 AM
Hey now, The Hulk isn't exactly slow and clumsy. He's quick as hell.
Shaster
08-12-2008, 02:27 PM
and keep in mind that under the right circumstances the Hulk can take on Gods as well.
Ya, but it works both ways. Krato's isn't as strong or maybe even as fast as the Hulk but he always finds a weakness even for Gods. The Hulk might make retard noises but he's shown to be quick-witted and tactful.
YcageL
08-12-2008, 10:33 PM
I don't know Kratos feats, and have never played the game. Although I will list some of Hulks feats.
Strength Feats.
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #102
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/planetsplit.jpg
The Hulk is in a heavy battle with the Red King on the planet Sakaar and when the Red King senses he is going to lose, he triggers a mechanism which causes the planet's plates to start to rip apart. The Hulk jumps down into the hole with the lava where the main split is and by sheer strength alone, pulls the plates back together and prevents the planet from ripping apart.
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #225
The Leader is wearing a pair of kinetic gloves against the Hulk which basically reflect the person's strength right back at them so they should never be able to defeat the glove. The Hulk exerts with all his strength and after about three minutes, his strength increases so much, he is able to overcome the gloves, much to the amazement of the Leader.
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #410
The Hulk breaks into a prison to rescue an old friend. To prevent him from reaching her, the people running the prison closed the doors which are able to withstand a nuclear strike. The Hulk takes it out with a punch.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/blastdoorstrength.jpg
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #144
The Hulk is fighting Dr. Doom and Doom encases the Hulk is a force field which he says is so strong that nothing in the universe can shatter it. Needless to say, the Hulk then proceeds to break out of the force field.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk :Furture Imperfect #1
To help keep resistance down in an alternative future, the Maestro has created mechanical dogs called Dogs o' War whose jaws can crush adamtinum( the strongest metal in the Marvel Universe) in 7.3 seconds. The Hulk battles one and the dog gets the Hulk's head in it's jaws and is not even able to pierce the Hulk's skin before being defeated.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/dogowarstrength.jpg
Occurence: Tales to Astonish #73
Before sending the Hulk off to the Watcher's planet, the Leader tests the Hulk's strength. He doesn't have any equipment that can even come close to measuring the Hulk's strength. He also uses electrodes, freezing temperature, and high velocity, all to no effect.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/leaderteststrength.jpg
Occurence: Onslaught: Marvel #1
The combined might of the X-Men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four could not even put a scratch in Onslaught's armor. The Hulk asks for a chance and also asks Jean Grey to "turn off" Bruce Banner, bringing out the Savage Hulk. Onslaught and the Hulk fight and Onslaught holds the Hulk down on the ground. The Hulk gets extremely mad and with one punch, cracks Onslaught's armor.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/onslaughtarmorstrength2.jpg
Occurence: Secret Wars #4
In the Secret Wars, the Beyonder takes a number of villains and heroes from Earth and put them on a planet to fight. During one of the early battles, a 150 billion ton mountain is dropped on the heroes and the Hulk is able to hold up the entire mountain by himself until they figure out how to get out.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/secretwarsstrength.jpg
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Health Feats.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk # 398
Hulk's skin is flayed off and heals back within minutes
During a fight with the U-foes, Vector uses his powers to literally flay all of the skin and muscle off the Hulk's body. After knocking Vector out, the Hulk sits still for a minute and allows his body to heal all the muscle and skin back.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/ufoesskinhealth1.jpg
Occurence: Incredible Hulk Annual #14/Incredible Hulk #388
The Hulk is immune to all diseases
The Hulk is captured by scientists who are interested in getting a sample of the Hulk's blood. The scientists doesn't bother to sterilize the needle since, as he notes, no microbe on earth that can live for more than one microsecond in the Hulk's bloodstream./ The Hulk's old sidekick Jim Wilson is seriously hurt and in need of medical help. Rick Jones is cautious because Jim has AIDS. The Hulk grabs Jim and mentions that he is immune to AIDS.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/immunehealth.jpg
The Hulk is eaten by bugs and heals back within minutes
Occurence: Incredible Hulk :The End
Out in the far future, the Hulk/Bruce Banner is the only human left alive on the planet. A mutated form of cockroaches follow the Hulk around and attack him, eating his flesh. After one such atteck in which most of the Hulk's body and insides are eaten, Bruce watches a replay and tracks the amount of time it takes for the Hulk to heal back together completely. It only takes eleven minutes.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/healingtheend.jpg
Occurence: Incredible Hulk :Furture Imperfect #2
Hulk heals from a broken neck
The Hulk is brought to an alternative future to help defeat an evil version of himself, named the Maestro. During the first battle between the Hulk and Maestro, the Maestro comes up behind the Hulk and breaks his neck. The Hulk heals back completely within a few days.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk #430
The Hulk Heals Over His Own Hand
Speedfreek uses his blades to disembowel the Hulk during a battle. The Hulk holds his guts inside with his hand while his healing factor works. He heals so quickly in fact that his skin heals right over his hand and he has to pull it out.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/handhealth.jpg
Occurence: Incredible Hulk #340
The Hulk Heals from Berserk Wolverine Attack
Wolverine and the Hulk are fighting and the Hulk eventually pushes Wolverine over the edge and he goes into berserk mode. Wolverine wildly attacks the Hulk, gutting him over and over again. He finally stops when he is sure that nothing could have survived what he did to them. Wolverine starts to walk away when the Hulk slowly gets up, already healing from the extreme wound.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/wolverinehealth.jpg
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Jumping Feats.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk #33
The Hulk jumps a thousand miles in one leap
The Hulk is tricked into thinking he needs to help some people by Queen Divine Justice. They have to get there quick so the Hulk grabs Queen and starts jumping with her. He was jumping hundreds of miles in a leap and eventually got to the point where he jumped one thousand miles in one jump.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk #254
Hulk nearly leaps into orbit
The Hulk questions the stars why he can't have friends and when he doesn't answer them, he decides to go to them. He makes a couple attempts and leaps so high that he almost leaps into orbit.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/orbitleaping.jpg
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Physical Resistance Feats.
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #144
Hulk withstands a Gamma Bomb blast.
The Hulk escapes from Dr. Doom's castle and takes a gamma bomb with him that Dr. Doom was going to use on Latveria. Dr. Doom detonates the bomb while the Hulk has it strapped to his back and the Hulk survives the blast.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/doomphysical.jpg
Occurence: Fantastic Four #534
The Hulk withstands the Human Torch Going Super Nova
A small gamma bomb goes off in the Hulk's face, causing the Hulk to loose control. The Thing and Human Torch try to stop the Hulk's rampage but are not strong enough to stop him. As a final attempt, the Human Torch goes super nova and the Hulk just walks away from it, with little effect.
Occurence: Incredible Hulk #254
The Hulk survives re-entry back to Earth
After nearly leaping into orbit, the Hulk first survives the deep cold and lack of oxygen of space and then survives the intense heat of re-entry back to planet Earth.
Occurence: Inhumans #12
The Inhuman Karnak has the ability to find the weakest point on a person and strike there. While fighting the Hulk, Karnak concentrates and finds the Hulk's "weakest" point, which is in the center of his chest. He punches there with all his superhuman strength and usually this would take out his foe. The Hulk just stands there and doesn't even move, not even affected by the blow. Therefore you can conclude that the Hulk doesn't have a weak point at all.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/karnakresistance.jpg
Occurence: The Comet Man #3
The Hulk Survives 50,000 Volts of Electricity
After fighting Comet Man, the Hulk starts to calm down and transform back into Bruce Banner. In mid-transformation, a SHIELD Mandroid sneaks up behind Bruce and shoots 50,000 volts of electricty through Bruce-Hulk' head and he survives.
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk Annual #5
The Hulk is repeatedly attacked by various monsters, including Blip, a creature composed of billions of megavoltz of electricity. The Hulk punches his fist into Blip and gets electrocuted but survives to defeat him.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/blipresistance.jpg
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #391
The Hulk goes one-on-one with the mutant Havok, who is as has been said many times is the most powerful mutant there is. Havok absorbs the Hulk's gamma radiation, weakening the Hulk, and then fires a huge blast at him. The Hulk survives the blast while Havok is knocked unconscious.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/havokresistance.jpg
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #428
While in a swamp, the Merged Hulk is going through a mental crisis, actually causing the Hulk to temporarily be afraid. The Man-Thing senses the fear and touches the Hulk and whoever knows fear, burns at the touch of the Man-Thing. Normally a person would just go up in flames immediately and die but the Hulk just has a slight burn on top of his head and nothing else.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/manthingresistance.jpg
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #440
Hulk Survives a nuclear bomb
The Hulk sets himself up as a guinea pig for some terrorists attacks and gets into a fight with Thor in the Artic. The government fires a nuclear bomb to take the Hulk out. The Hulk had planned on this happening and was going to go to a Panteon secret stronghold but the nuke came early and the Hulk was directly hit but still survived.
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/nukeresistance.jpg
Occurence: The Incredible Hulk #79
The Hulk is on an island where Nightmare is manipulating reality and turning Mindless Ones into other creatures, one of those being Fin Fang Foom. The dragon tries to convince the Hulk that he will rule the planet and that the Hulk should kneel before him. The Hulk doesn't budge so Foom breathes his fire on him and it barely singes the Hulk. Foom is amazed at this fact.
1st pic http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/finfangfoomresistance.jpg
2nd pic http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/finfangfoomresistance2.jpg
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Mental Resistance Feats.
I won't post any because it's Kratos we are talking about here, like I said I know nothing about his feats, but he doesn't seem like the mental fighter type.
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Thunderclap(One of hulks attacks.)
Occurence: Incredible Hulk Annual #5
Hulk's Clap Compared to a Hurricane
The Hulk is fighting Diablo, a creature made of smoke. He realizes the only way to stop him is to clap his hands. He claps his hands a couple times and on the last time, he blows away Diablo and everything else at ground level as his clap is said to be more powerful than the fiercest hurricane in history.
Occurence: Hulk Annual 1998
Hulk's Clap Compared to Sonic Boom
While fighting Attuma along side the Sub-Mariner in the underwater city of Atlantis, the Hulk claps his hands. His clap is compared to a sonic boom in the air and underwater, it is even more powerful.
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Stuff I prob forgot to mention, he can breathe under water, he cant be mind controlled. Oh and by the way thats just his regular hulk form, he has MANY forms which are way stronger.
Pic of supes saying Hulk is fast.
http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/06/05/hulk-amazing-feats/hulk-vs-superman.jpg
Here is Ultimate Hulk tearing Wolverine in half
http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/06/05/hulk-amazing-feats/Rip-Ult-Wolverine-vs-Hulk-1.jpg
I'll stop here, before I get carried away :bigwink:
YcageL
08-12-2008, 10:35 PM
Ya, but it works both ways. Krato's isn't as strong or maybe even as fast as the Hulk but he always finds a weakness even for Gods. The Hulk might make retard noises but he's shown to be quick-witted and tactful.
Occurence: Inhumans #12
The Inhuman Karnak has the ability to find the weakest point on a person and strike there. While fighting the Hulk, Karnak concentrates and finds the Hulk's "weakest" point, which is in the center of his chest. He punches there with all his superhuman strength and usually this would take out his foe. The Hulk just stands there and doesn't even move, not even affected by the blow. Therefore you can conclude that the Hulk doesn't have a weak point at all.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/...resistance.jpg
Sepharih
08-12-2008, 11:34 PM
I thought of something else. Hypothetically speaking, Kratos might actually find his salvation in the Golden Fleece, or even the Blade of Olympus. Using typical comic book logic; I suppose that either of those could potentially absorb the Hulk's Gamma radiation in the same way they absorb other kinds of energy, and if he could absorb enough of it then the Hulk would turn back to Bruce Banner.
Maybe Kratos has a better chance than I thought.
melodeathpwns
08-12-2008, 11:46 PM
All Kratos has to do is rip Hulks head off.
/thread
Nickster
08-12-2008, 11:56 PM
If every ridiculously overpowered superbastard in the marvel universe can't bring down the Hulk then I don't think one guy has much of a chance.
Never played God of War though, can't tell for certain.
On a side note, the entire marvel universe must be fucking retarded, to keep going after the Hulk and like Wil E. Coyote after roadrunner, and still be surprised when they get their asses handed to them.
Hulk neds nerf plox.
silverspade14
08-12-2008, 11:59 PM
All Kratos has to do is rip Hulks head off.
/thread
The Hulk would just heal it back on.
Anyone who thinks Kratos could kill the Hulk is a fucking retard, seeing as how The Hulk can't die.
Rootraz
08-13-2008, 12:01 AM
If every ridiculously overpowered superbastard in the marvel universe can't bring down the Hulk then I don't think one guy has much of a chance.
Never played God of War though, can't tell for certain.
On a side note, the entire marvel universe must be fucking retarded, to keep going after the Hulk and like Wil E. Coyote after roadrunner, and still be surprised when they get their asses handed to them.
Hulk neds nerf plox.
Silver Surfer could.
Anyway, The Hulk would kill Kratos pretty quick.
silverspade14
08-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Silver Surfer could.
Anyway, The Hulk would kill Kratos pretty quick.
Against any regular superhero The Hulk would win, but when you bring the Power Cosmic into it, things get a bit unfair.
Rootraz
08-13-2008, 12:11 AM
Against any regular superhero The Hulk would win, but when you bring the Power Cosmic into it, things get a bit unfair.
That's exactly why I only mentioned Silver Surfer. I'd say Thor has a great shot at beating Hulk too, but that's about as far as it goes. Hulk is ultimately powerful and would handle Kratos. Kratos is still a badass though, it's just a little unfair putting him against The Hulk.
Nickster
08-13-2008, 12:17 AM
You'd think they'd have the sense to get the Surfers number or something, though I suppose he'd never be able to get anything done if he's being called everytime the Hulk goes apeshit after everyone thinks he's the good guy for the hundreth time.
They always could just sneak up on Banner and pop him in the head, but.
"NO WE CANT KILL THEN WED BE AS BAD AS HIM"
Hah. I love retarded comic book logic almost as much as I love comic books.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 12:44 AM
That's exactly why I only mentioned Silver Surfer. I'd say Thor has a great shot at beating Hulk too, but that's about as far as it goes. Hulk is ultimately powerful and would handle Kratos. Kratos is still a badass though, it's just a little unfair putting him against The Hulk.
1 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023540335&att=Untitled-1.jpg&width=476&height=746
2 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023540335&att=Untitled-2_3.jpg&width=963&height=753
3 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023544867&att=Untitled-4.jpg&width=489&height=752
4 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023544867&att=Untitled-5.jpg&width=485&height=747
5 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-6.jpg&width=475&height=756
6 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-7.jpg&width=478&height=746
7 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-8.jpg&width=481&height=745
Read that one? The next one can't come quick enough. Oh and this post isnt relevant to the topic at all, because its a different hulk, just wanted to know if you've seen it.
Rootraz
08-13-2008, 01:11 AM
1 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023540335&att=Untitled-1.jpg&width=476&height=746
2 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023540335&att=Untitled-2_3.jpg&width=963&height=753
3 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023544867&att=Untitled-4.jpg&width=489&height=752
4 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023544867&att=Untitled-5.jpg&width=485&height=747
5 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-6.jpg&width=475&height=756
6 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-7.jpg&width=478&height=746
7 http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=thor-2008073023555155&att=Untitled-8.jpg&width=481&height=745
Read that one? The next one can't come quick enough. Oh and this post isnt relevant to the topic at all, because its a different hulk, just wanted to know if you've seen it.
Awesome. I haven't got to read any red hulk yet though because the only comic store around here that stayed up to date recently closed down, so once they finish the series, I might just buy them all on Amazon or something.
melodeathpwns
08-13-2008, 04:13 AM
The Hulk would just heal it back on.
Anyone who thinks Kratos could kill the Hulk is a fucking retard, seeing as how The Hulk can't die.
Can he even do that? That's bullshit.Anyway Kratos is/was A FUCKING GOD. How can a mere mortal like the hulk kill a god?
Inb4pandorasbox
Mr.SelfDestruct
08-13-2008, 01:27 PM
Can he even do that? That's bullshit.Anyway Kratos is/was A FUCKING GOD. How can a mere mortal like the hulk kill a god?
Inb4pandorasbox
The Hulk obviously isn't a mere mortal.
bobscott
08-13-2008, 01:41 PM
I thought of something else. Hypothetically speaking, Kratos might actually find his salvation in the Golden Fleece, or even the Blade of Olympus. Using typical comic book logic; I suppose that either of those could potentially absorb the Hulk's Gamma radiation in the same way they absorb other kinds of energy, and if he could absorb enough of it then the Hulk would turn back to Bruce Banner.
Maybe Kratos has a better chance than I thought.
Thats a good point. I never thought of that.
however, if the hulk somehow breaks the sword of olympus, which doesn't seem that far out of the realm of possibility, that plan is foiled.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 04:21 PM
Can he even do that? That's bullshit.Anyway Kratos is/was A FUCKING GOD. How can a mere mortal like the hulk kill a god?
Inb4pandorasbox
I pretty sure he couldn't cut his head off in the first place. Unless he has a physical attack stronger than a direct Atomic bomb hit, then that still probably wouldn't do it. Since no one has ever "cut his head off" we have nothing to go to as to measure what pushes his full physical resistance limit. Also if he did somehow manage to do it(plot powers/main character powers/PIS >.>) Like someone already mentioned he would just heal back.
Summary, only way KRatos is killing Hulk is if he has powers to go back in time killing him as a human, or Gamma sucking weapons..that's even if these weapons im hearing of actually absorb gamma radiation, like I said I know nothing of Kratos feats.. I even looked on google..I found nothing. Second of all, the Op didn't give any circumstances, IE; Does Kratos know about the hulks power already? Does Kratos know what the Hulk can do? Does Kratos know if his weapon can absorb Gamma rad.? Do both of them know about each others power? Are both of them just slapped on some random planet without knowing anything of each other and ready to fight? Are either bloodlusted?(doubt this would make a diff of the outcome), etc. etc. Too many variables that the op didnt mention.
So assuming they both are on some random planet crossing each other path about to fight, the Hulk wins, plain and simple.
Next # vs. # fight please :blahblah:
Edit:1
And even if they knew about each others powers before hand, i'm sure Hulk would kill him before Kratos had time to use his weapons to their full absorbing potential, unless these overpowered weapons absorb shit in a instance..
Edit:2
Now that im thinking about it there was a time hulk was split from bruce banner, they couldn't survive without each other for a long time but they managed to do it, so let's say they both know of each others power. If he split and the real Hulk faught with him, would the Absorbing weapon still work?
melodeathpwns
08-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Kratos would turn hulk to stone using Medusas gaze. Then smash him. Fight over.
handsock
08-13-2008, 05:41 PM
In all honesty, Goku could destroy any super hero ever invented...i mean for fucks sake, he's the strongest dude in the universe and could destroy galaxies with kame hame ha's. Take it, bitches.
Mr.SelfDestruct
08-13-2008, 05:45 PM
In all honesty, Goku could destroy any super hero ever invented...i mean for fucks sake, he's the strongest dude in the universe and could destroy galaxies with kame hame ha's. Take it, bitches.
True that. But as soon as you threaten him with a syringe, he goes all pussy.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 05:50 PM
In all honesty, Goku could destroy any super hero ever invented
No he couldn't
...i mean for fucks sake, he's the strongest dude in the universe
No he isn't
and could destroy galaxies with kame hame ha's.
No he can't
silverspade14
08-13-2008, 06:00 PM
Kratos would turn hulk to stone using Medusas gaze. Then smash him. Fight over.
The magic probably wouldnt work on the Hulk and if he was smashed to pieces, he would still just reheal. And then tear Kratos in half and throw each piece of his body to opposite ends of the universe. Fight over.
melodeathpwns
08-13-2008, 06:21 PM
The magic probably wouldnt work on the Hulk and if he was smashed to pieces, he would still just reheal. And then tear Kratos in half and throw each piece of his body to opposite ends of the universe. Fight over.
Why wouldn't the magic work? There's no reason why it wouldn't. How would hulk heal himself? HE IS STONE AND IN A MILLION PEICES.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 06:38 PM
Why wouldn't the magic work? There's no reason why it wouldn't. How would hulk heal himself? HE IS STONE AND IN A MILLION PEICES.
I didn't touch your previous comment for a reason, but i'll budge now. Medusa's head was said to turn anything that looked into it's eyes into stone.. but Hulk has resisted alot of mental/mind effecting things.
Anyway look here
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/mentalresistancefeats.html
You can argue that he can resist it, same as you can argue he shouldn't be able to. I personally dont know, so i'm leaving that alone. Either way i'm sure he'd break out of it, Hulk ftw~
Rootraz
08-13-2008, 06:42 PM
In all honesty, Goku could destroy any super hero ever invented...i mean for fucks sake, he's the strongest dude in the universe and could destroy galaxies with kame hame ha's. Take it, bitches.
NOBODY, including Goku, can beat Silver Surfer or Galactus.
Wu-tang
08-13-2008, 06:46 PM
I didn't touch your previous comment for a reason, but i'll budge now. Medusa's head was said to turn anything that looked into it's eyes into stone.. but Hulk has resisted alot of mental/mind effecting things.
Anyway look here
http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/mentalresistancefeats.html
You can argue that he can resist it, same as you can argue he shouldn't be able to. I personally dont know, so i'm leaving that alone.
You don't have to look into Medusa's eyes, you'll get turned into stone regardless as long as the Medusa's eyes are looking at you. Or at least in the God of War universe.
Also, Superman > Hulk.
Shaster
08-13-2008, 06:51 PM
Occurence: Inhumans #12
The Inhuman Karnak has the ability to find the weakest point on a person and strike there. While fighting the Hulk, Karnak concentrates and finds the Hulk's "weakest" point, which is in the center of his chest. He punches there with all his superhuman strength and usually this would take out his foe. The Hulk just stands there and doesn't even move, not even affected by the blow. Therefore you can conclude that the Hulk doesn't have a weak point at all.http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/...resistance.jpg
I said a weakness not weak point. Even if the Hulk can't die, Kratos would just go evil villian on his ass and go after Betty then rip Bruce Banner's head off when he's not looking.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 06:55 PM
Oh is that so, well im still waiting on someone to post feats of Kratos... until then im going by what I already know. I say it still gets resisted :wave: .
NOBODY, including Goku, can beat Silver Surfer or Galactus.
Add on to that list of people who can beat goku
"Goes without saying; The Omnipotents (TOAA, LoN, The Presense, etc)
Marvel's Nigh Omnipotent (LT, The Infinites, PR Beyonder, Pheonix Of The White Crown, etc)
DC's Nigh Omnipotents (Lucifer Morningstar, The Spectre, Mr. Mxyzpltk, etc)
Galactus (Marvel)
Parallax (DC)
Tsunami, Tokimi, Washu, Tenchi, Z, Kain, The Counteractor, Ryoko, 1st/2nd gen Treeship (Tenchiverse)
Adam Warlock (w/IG/Marvel)
Thanos (w/ HotU or IG/Marvel)
The Kismet (DC)
Ion (DC)
Titans, Gold Saints, Kami Saints, Shogun Marines, H-level Specters, Celestial (Saint Seiya)
Eternity, Death, Oblivion and Infinity (Marvel)
The Anti-Monitor (DC)
Imperiex (DC)
Superman (Prime, M, and PC)
Super Sonic (Archie comic book version)
Silver Surfer (Anniliation)
Superboy Prime
Dark Schneider (Bastard!!)
Dr. Strange
Yuri Hyuga (Shadow Hearts)
Ayato Kamina w/RahXephon (RahXephon)
Sun Wukong (Journey to the West)
Fei Fong Wong (Xenogears)
Infinity Dragon (BoF4)
Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile)
Ryo Sanada (Yoroiden Samurai Troopers)
Hellmaster Phibrizzo (Slayers)
Ifurita (El-Hazard)
Gladiator (Marvel)
Cthulhu Mythos (Elder Gods, Great Old Ones, and Outer Gods)
Akira (Akira)
The Chaos Gods, The C'Tan, Powerful Psykers, The Emperor of Man (Warhammer)
PC Darkseid
-- Need series that they are affiliated with----Emperor Joker
Scott Free w/Anti - Life equation
Orion w/Anti - Life equation
Anti - Life entity
The Thunderbolt
The Human UI
The Machine UI
Cosmocrats
Chaotarchs ----need series that they are affiliated with---
KC Flash
The Shrike (Hyperion)
Saint of Killer (Preacher)
Mephisto (???)
Odinforce Thor
Juggernaut
Heart Disease (Funny Mike)
Amazo
Lobo
Captain Marvel (DC)
Belldandy (Oh My Goddess!)
New Sun
Laharl, Zetta, Zenon, and Trenia (Nippon Ichi)
Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon)
Popeye
Jane (Enders)
Who cannot beat Goku?
Narutoverse
OPverse (One Piece)
Bleachverse
RKverse (Rurouni Kenshin)
Cloud (Final Fantasy 7 series)
Hunter X Hunter
Tetsuo (Akira)
Sesshoumaru (Inuyasha)
Brainiac 13
PC Hal Jordan (because of yellow weakness)
Wonder Woman (DC)
Cyborg Superman (DC)
Reborn Palpatine
Ori Prior
Jedi, Jedi Master, Sith (average ones)"
YcageL
08-13-2008, 06:57 PM
Kratos would just go evil villian on his ass and go after Betty then rip Bruce Banner's head off when he's not looking.
Lmao. Yea because a fight between these two somehow escalated into him even knowing who betty is? Or him even knowing Hulk has a weaker form, bruce? Op didn't state circumstances so lets not get all giddy and start putting the vantage point into Kratos hand.
Shaster
08-13-2008, 07:07 PM
Lmao. Yea because a fight between these two somehow escalated into him even knowing who betty is? Or him even knowing Hulk has a weaker form, bruce? Op didn't state circumstances so lets not get all giddy and start putting the vantage point into Kratos hand.
Oops, I didn't realize this was an actual fight. Sorry for not taking it too seriously.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 07:27 PM
It's ok, although it better not happen again.
Nickster
08-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Also, Superman > Hulk.
True that. He actually does. But not after being thrown into fucking orbit.
But this (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb272/Doctor_Morgrim/Strangexcalbiur.png) guy (http://www.insidepulsemedia.com/columnImages2006/image31613.jpg) >>> Supes.
Strange could probably fuck up Goku too.
Magic needs to be fucking nerfed as well.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 08:25 PM
Strange could probably fuck up Goku too.
Strange rapes Goku sideways.
Sepharih
08-13-2008, 10:56 PM
Oh is that so, well im still waiting on someone to post feats of Kratos... until then im going by what I already know.
Kratos has killed Ares the God of War, Athena the Goddess of Wisdom/War, and has also defeated Zeus himself in single combat (and would have killed him if Athena hadn't interfered). To give you a kind of reference to what that means; they're the equal of Jack Kirby's New Gods in terms of size, and quite possibly in terms of power as well.
He has also killed the sisters of fate, beings who even the aforementioned gods fear and respect, and currently (in addition to the power he already has as the God of War) possess power over time itself.
His main weapons are the Blades of Chaos and/or Athena, magical swords forged in Hades. He also posseses the Spear of Destiny, and the Blade of olympus (which Zeus used to end the war with the Titans) which along with Pandora's Box (also possibly in his possession still) is one of the few known weapons that can kill a God. This weapon is also shown to be capable of absorbing the power of enemies it kills to make it stronger. So if Kratos used in on the Hulk it could potentially absorb his Gamma radiation.
He also possesses the Golden Fleece, a piece of armor which can absorb and reflect back literally any attack (physical or magical). That means when the Hulk punches him he can either absorb the attack and continue to do so until Bruce Banner shows up, or he can just hit the Hulk with whatever he dishes out.
Honestly, with the way things are going, at the end of God of War III Galactus will be a pushover for Kratos.
Hyperbole, I admit it, but still. Tough as fuck.
NOBODY, including Goku, can beat Silver Surfer or Galactus.
Except for Reed Richards...and Batman of course.
shane7x
08-13-2008, 11:16 PM
Scrappy Doo is the strongest.
Shaster
08-13-2008, 11:27 PM
Let's break it down. Ex-God, ruthless, spartan killer with Godly equipment against a mad green juicer from a bad science experiment? Man-God would win.
YcageL
08-13-2008, 11:58 PM
[QUOTE=Sepharih;4876684]Kratos has killed Ares the God of War, Athena the Goddess of Wisdom/War, and has also defeated Zeus himself in single combat (and would have killed him if Athena hadn't interfered). To give you a kind of reference to what that means; they're the equal of Jack Kirby's New Gods in terms of size, and quite possibly in terms of power as well.
He has also killed the sisters of fate, beings who even the aforementioned gods fear and respect, and currently (in addition to the power he already has as the God of War) possess power over time itself.
His main weapons are the Blades of Chaos and/or Athena, magical swords forged in Hades. He also posseses the Spear of Destiny, and the Blade of olympus (which Zeus used to end the war with the Titans) which along with Pandora's Box (also possibly in his possession still) is one of the few known weapons that can kill a God. This weapon is also shown to be capable of absorbing the power of enemies it kills to make it stronger. So if Kratos used in on the Hulk it could potentially absorb his Gamma radiation.
He also possesses the Golden Fleece, a piece of armor which can absorb and reflect back literally any attack (physical or magical). That means when the Hulk punches him he can either absorb the attack and continue to do so until Bruce Banner shows up, or he can just hit the Hulk with whatever he dishes out.
Honestly, with the way things are going, at the end of God of War III Galactus will be a pushover for Kratos.
Ok, got'cha on the Feats. thanks. Yea some of those items seem pretty overpowered.
His main weapons are the Blades of Chaos and/or Athena, magical swords forged in Hades. He also posseses the Spear of Destiny, and the Blade of olympus
Other than being labeled God killers, what's magical about these items? What powers do they posses?
Pandora's Box (also possibly in his possession still) is one of the few known weapons that can kill a God. This weapon is also shown to be capable of absorbing the power of enemies it kills to make it stronger. So if Kratos used in on the Hulk it could potentially absorb his Gamma radiation.
Ok I don't get this part, you say it absorbs the power of the enemies it kills , then mentions if he uses it on the hulk it could absorb his radiation, that whole part contradicts itself because he hasn't killed Hulk yet. Unless you mean the previous people he has killed in the game had powers to absorb stuff, which are now passive to the Pandora Box? Or is the box's main purpose just to absorb powers?
He also possesses the Golden Fleece, a piece of armor which can absorb and reflect back literally any attack (physical or magical). That means when the Hulk punches him he can either absorb the attack and continue to do so until Bruce Banner shows up, or he can just hit the Hulk with whatever he dishes out.
That would probably work, if making him angrier didn't make him stronger. Him punching Kratos with this armor on and then him getting the impact(i'm guessing this is what you mean when you say reflects it back) would only piss him off more, until inevitably it gets to the point where the armor starts to break, and hulk has broken/cracked "unbreakable" items before, IE: Onslaughts armor. Also how does this armor work exactly, would the parts of his body not covered, the head,arms,whatever else isn't covered be able to be tore/smashed/broken off and the effects still be transferred to the hulk? If that's the case what would stop him from tossing Kratos into orbit and letting him suffocate their?
Sepharih
08-14-2008, 01:14 AM
Other than being labeled God killers, what's magical about these items? What powers do they posses?
The Blades of Chaos/Athena don’t really qualify as god killers actually. They’re really badass, but they’ve never killed a god as far as I’m aware. Ditto for the Spear of Destiny, unless of course it is THE “Spear of Destiny”, which hasn’t been confirmed yet.
The Blade of Olympus is another Story:
Ok I don't get this part, you say it absorbs the power of the enemies it kills , then mentions if he uses it on the hulk it could absorb his radiation, that whole part contradicts itself because he hasn't killed Hulk yet. Unless you mean the previous people he has killed in the game had powers to absorb stuff, which are now passive to the Pandora Box? Or is the box's main purpose just to absorb powers?
Sorry, I didn’t explain that well, and it was a poor choice of words. Pandora’s box is actually a separate item, and it’s probably irrelevant to the issue anyway since the whole point of it is that it imbues a mortal with godlike powers, and I’m working under the assumption that Kratos has the power of the god of war.
The Blade of Olympus is already shown to have a pretty significant amount of power already when Zeus used it to banish the Titans to Tartarus in the great war (the Titans are notably larger and stronger than the olympians).
As for its energy draining abilities, death is not a requirement. At the beginning of God of War II Zeus tricks Kratos by giving him the sword and telling him to drain his godly power into the sword, making it strong enough to defeat a particularly nasty foe he is facing.
Following this Kratos lets the sword slip from his possession, becoming mortal, and Zeus kills him; at which point he fights his way through Hades for the second time to get his revenge.
Later on Kratos reclaims the sword and uses it to defeat Zeus. In this battle Zeus is the size of a mountain while Kratos is mortal sized, and when Kratos stabs Zeus with the sword a great deal of power is drained from Zeus into the sword and he shrinks down to Kratos' size. After this fight Kratos also stabs Athena with it and I presume her powers were also drained into the blade, although she actually dies.
So long story short, the Blade of Olympus can actually drain powers without killing a being. Assuming Kratos could stab the hulk (may or may not be necessary), he might be able to drain the Gamma radiation and, just like Zeus, bring him down to a more manageable size.
That would probably work, if making him angrier didn't make him stronger. Him punching Kratos with this armor on and then him getting the impact(i'm guessing this is what you mean when you say reflects it back) would only piss him off more, until inevitably it gets to the point where the armor starts to break, and hulk has broken/cracked "unbreakable" items before, IE: Onslaughts armor.
That thought had occurred to me, but the energy doesn’t have to be reflected back. It can simply be dispersed. I’ll fully concede that the Hulk could get angry enough to eventually break the Golden fleece; however, though I can't prove it, I don't believe that the Hulk’s base strength is equal to the King of Olympus.
Also how does this armor work exactly, would the parts of his body not covered, the head,arms,whatever else isn't covered be able to be tore/smashed/broken off and the effects still be transferred to the hulk? If that's the case what would stop him from tossing Kratos into orbit and letting him suffocate their?
It completely covers his left arm. Nothing stops his body from being ripped apart except his bare strength, but keep in mind that even as a mortal this guy can take a LOT of punishment, and as a god...you get the idea. As for space...even as a mortal he possesses the ability to hold is breath infinetely thanks to Poseidon’s trident and if his body is capable of surviving decompression long enough for Pegasus to arrive then he’ll be fine. As a god...no problem at all, including re-entry.
YcageL
08-14-2008, 01:55 AM
>.>
Well that's /thread then.
Hulk loses.
silverspade14
08-14-2008, 01:59 AM
So in other words:
Hulk would rape Kratos unless Kratos is carry 20 pieces of weapon/armor.
YcageL
08-14-2008, 02:06 AM
So in other words:
Hulk would rape Kratos unless Kratos is carry 20 pieces of weapon/armor.
And a couple of on the call ally's who happen to be gods :bigwink:
But in all seriousness.
At the beginning of God of War II Zeus tricks Kratos by giving him the sword and telling him to drain his godly power into the sword, making it strong enough to defeat a particularly nasty foe he is facing.
Following this Kratos lets the sword slip from his possession, becoming mortal, and Zeus kills him; at which point he fights his way through Hades for the second time to get his revenge.
Later on Kratos reclaims the sword and uses it to defeat Zeus. In this battle Zeus is the size of a mountain while Kratos is mortal sized, and when Kratos stabs Zeus with the sword a great deal of power is drained from Zeus into the sword and he shrinks down to Kratos' size. After this fight Kratos also stabs Athena with it and I presume her powers were also drained into the blade, although she actually dies.
So long story short, the Blade of Olympus can actually drain powers without killing a being. Assuming Kratos could stab the hulk (may or may not be necessary), he might be able to drain the Gamma radiation and, just like Zeus, bring him down to a more manageable size.
Ok so basically if he isn't holding the sword he's killable, right? Also can Kratos be knocked unconscious in that armor? Which would lead to the scenario below.
So if they came into battle knowing each others power, Hulk would probably get a chance to win by just spamming thunder claps at him, right? Wether it be by Ko'ing him for a bit, or knocking the weapons out of his hand.
If they didn't know each other power, Hulk would lose, since he would just go straight for the physical fight, which Kratos would be slashing him with the sword in.
but keep in mind that even as a mortal this guy can take a LOT of punishment
I don't think that matters, as long as/If he can get the sword out of his hands for some time he could do it, if he can hold tectonic plates together, or hold up 150 billion tons, or break something 2x the size of earth, he can tear a limb off Kratos if he's pissed enough.
Sepharih
08-14-2008, 02:55 AM
Ok so basically if he isn't holding the sword he's killable, right? Also can Kratos be knocked unconscious in that armor?
Assuming that he's already drained his powers into the sword while he's holding it, Yes to both.
So if they came into battle knowing each others power, Hulk would probably get a chance to win by just spamming thunder claps at him, right? Wether it be by Ko'ing him for a bit, or knocking the weapons out of his hand.
If he’s got the Golden Fleece, not a chance; which he also didn’t possess when Zeus took it. Similar attacks are used on him during God of War II and the Golden Fleece can shrug them off without any trouble.
I don't think that matters, as long as/If he can get the sword out of his hands for some time he could do it, if he can hold tectonic plates together, or hold up 150 billion tons, or break something 2x the size of earth, he can tear a limb off Kratos if he's pissed enough.
So in other words:
Hulk would rape Kratos unless Kratos is carry 20 pieces of weapon/armor.
Yes, if the Hulk was mad enough he could defeat Kratos, and yes, without his weapons Kratos wouldn’t have much of a chance.
That works both ways though. Kratos could also easily defeat the Hulk if he was still Bruce Banner, or even one of his other forms besides the savage Hulk.
I usually prefer to look at the characters general archetypes in arguments like this, but when you’re dealing with characters like the Hulk and Kratos who are basically defined by raw power and always overcoming seemingly impossible odds it basically degenerates into one big "This characters penis is bigger than that characters penis" argument.
The problem is that, in hypothetical fights like these among fictional characters, almost any character can win under the right parameters. I can cite instances where Spider-man has defeated the Hulk.
The problem with setting any kind of parameters when someone brings up the Hulk is that the Hulk has no known limit to his strength. Hypothetically, sure, the Hulk would reach a point where, even with all the power of Olympus at his hands, Kratos would be out of his league. However, at his current maximum, you could argue that Kratos could defeat the Hulk before this level was reached.
So yeah, it’s all dependent on the situation.
handsock
08-14-2008, 02:51 PM
Bitches please (in the words of Chris Crocker). Goku can destroy single planets if he wanted to, but he'd rather chill with that big list of people who can supposedly beat him and eat lots and lots of food. He's the fastest person alive, not to mention instant transmission, kame hame ha's, and SS4, and the fact that his power level is a couple billion above 9000 nowadays.
YcageL
08-14-2008, 03:19 PM
Assuming that he's already drained his powers into the sword while he's holding it, Yes to both.
Er.. :banghead: , if he hasn't drained his sword he's just plain old immortal? -_-
If he’s got the Golden Fleece, not a chance
Hmm, so close range physical attacks(tearing/smashing/etc.) can work on him while he has his armor on.
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Originally Posted by YcageL
Also how does this armor work exactly, would the parts of his body not covered, the head,arms,whatever else isn't covered be able to be tore/smashed/broken off and the effects still be transferred to the hulk? If that's the case what would stop him from tossing Kratos into orbit and letting him suffocate their?
It completely covers his left arm. Nothing stops his body from being ripped apart except his bare strength - Although ranged physical/soundwaves won't work on parts of his body not covered
:err:
And did Kratos really get help from Pegasus in the game, when he was stuck somewhere -.-? Cause I think that should auto disqualify him from this fight :bigwink: Where the hell is the thread starter anyway?
On a totally outlandish note,
During the fight Hulk notices the sword draining his power, he haults his attacks trying to buy time to think of a way to kill Kratos, then all a sudden in the distance he notices a defeated god of whom Kratos has slain(Astral sense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_the_Hulk)), he/she offers Hulk protection against that gay sword in exchange for his(Kratos) life :boink:
There ya go, Fuck Kratos and his help.
Goku can destroy single planets if he wanted to,
Who can't =/ there are people who can destroy universes, create universes, create life,compete against Omnipotents,etc.
He's the fastest person alive, not to mention instant transmission
:wah: No he's not. Supes can travel at 99% speed of light, and doesn't have to concentrate to do it, also Goku can only IT to a energy form he's met before, supes can just go wherever he wants, and thats just only one of the fast people. We won't talk about the people who can go through time/freeze time etc.
, kame hame ha's,
:lol: weaksauce
and SS4
SSj4 was weak. Did you even watch Dbz :P?
/rant I just felt like talking, I know that comment wasn't serious :blahblah:
Arkanos
08-14-2008, 04:56 PM
So, what is Kratos without all his little toys?
puppetmasterjjk
08-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Wait, so if Kratos had that armor that can supposedly absorb/reflect/disperse any attack that he wants, then how can you lose the game, or is it one of those games where you just run around worry-free like in Barbie - Horse Adventures?
sarinc
08-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Hulk has power.
Kratos is a cunt.
bobscott
08-16-2008, 01:06 PM
Wait, so if Kratos had that armor that can supposedly absorb/reflect/disperse any attack that he wants, then how can you lose the game, or is it one of those games where you just run around worry-free like in Barbie - Horse Adventures?
In order to get the fleece to work you have to push the button at the EXACT right time. And I don't think it works for EVERY type of attack from enemies. So there is still an element of challenge to it.
YcageL
08-16-2008, 05:46 PM
So in a "real" fight he'd have to activate the fleece at the right time, through a barrage of attacks coming at him. Which would be harder than just pushing a button :bigwink:
bobscott
08-17-2008, 03:10 PM
So in a "real" fight he'd have to activate the fleece at the right time, through a barrage of attacks coming at him. Which would be harder than just pushing a button :bigwink:
He was asking about how it would work in the game so I explained it.
YcageL
08-17-2008, 03:44 PM
And i'm saying how it would work in a "actual" fight.
particlephysics
08-19-2008, 04:35 PM
The only game you will see kratos fighting hulk is probably in a soul calibur.
ChocoChipCamo
08-22-2008, 12:14 AM
Alright, I voted Kratos.
Kratos would win hands down against the Hulk because he could use Hulk's girlfriend as a shield, being the heartless badass that he is. With Blade of Olympus in hand, he could just hold the girl up to get Hulk off guard, and use the Blade to absorb all Hulk's powers. Hulk would just get all emo and turn into a wussy human again for Kratos to smash like the pussy he is.
Kratos has no significant other, or anyone he cares about. He also has no allies as he fucking KILLED his wife, kid, and the only ally he had - Athena. He just fucks multiple hot chicks and runs off to do battle like a mayun! After Kratos slaughters the Hulk, he'd probably just fuck the living hell out of Hulk's woman, then kill her and go grab a cup of coffee.
SolidSnake4
08-22-2008, 12:31 AM
yeah pretty much. even if kratos had a picture of hulks woman, that would be sufficient enough to make the hulk tear up like the bitch he is. n as for raping and killing the girlfriend, you need to add a little spice to that. Kratos would probably rape her in a thousand different ways along with shoving parts of the dismembered hulk into her tongue bucket pussy and THEN kill her by slicing her head and tits off and slicing the hulks head off. and if you're wondering what happens to the heads and titties well he'd put the girls titties on hulks asscheeks and hulks head would be on the girlfriends, and the girls head would be on kratos' cock.
Nickster
08-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Alright, I voted Kratos.
Kratos would win hands down against the Hulk because he could use Hulk's girlfriend as a shield, being the heartless badass that he is. With Blade of Olympus in hand, he could just hold the girl up to get Hulk off guard, and use the Blade to absorb all Hulk's powers. Hulk would just get all emo and turn into a wussy human again for Kratos to smash like the pussy he is.
What? That would just piss him off more. The last thing you want to be doing.
Hulks wife is already dead anyways.
Mr.SelfDestruct
08-22-2008, 12:41 AM
Didn't Kratos whine throughout the entire first game about his dead family?
The Hulk would probably grunt once or twice, then hunt down the murderer.
YcageL
08-22-2008, 01:36 AM
Alright, I voted Kratos.
Kratos would win hands down against the Hulk because he could use Hulk's girlfriend as a shield, being the heartless badass that he is. With Blade of Olympus in hand, he could just hold the girl up to get Hulk off guard, and use the Blade to absorb all Hulk's powers. Hulk would just get all emo and turn into a wussy human again for Kratos to smash like the pussy he is.
Kratos has no significant other, or anyone he cares about. He also has no allies as he fucking KILLED his wife, kid, and the only ally he had - Athena. He just fucks multiple hot chicks and runs off to do battle like a mayun! After Kratos slaughters the Hulk, he'd probably just fuck the living hell out of Hulk's woman, then kill her and go grab a cup of coffee.
yeah pretty much. even if kratos had a picture of hulks woman, that would be sufficient enough to make the hulk tear up like the bitch he is. n as for raping and killing the girlfriend, you need to add a little spice to that. Kratos would probably rape her in a thousand different ways along with shoving parts of the dismembered hulk into her tongue bucket pussy and THEN kill her by slicing her head and tits off and slicing the hulks head off. and if you're wondering what happens to the heads and titties well he'd put the girls titties on hulks asscheeks and hulks head would be on the girlfriends, and the girls head would be on kratos' cock.
What, are you two stupid? It's a fight between Hulk and Kratos, in some random place, how the hell is Betty even considered in your post. First of all, which I mentioned, Kratos has no idea that Hulk has strong feelings for Betty, hell he doesn't even know a betty exist in relation to Hulk.. and i'm sure Hulk wouldn't mention it. Second of all, Betty wouldn't just be randomly sitting around a fight in the first place. Therefore your comments about him using Betty as a manipulation tool is retarded.
Nice imagination though, too bad it's not relevant at all.
xXSpawnXx
08-26-2008, 12:55 AM
The Hulk would just heal it back on.
Anyone who thinks Kratos could kill the Hulk is a fucking retard, seeing as how The Hulk can't die.
What?! All Kratos has to do is wait for him to revert back to being a scientist and stealth kill his ass when he's sleeping. Oh yeah if you played the GOW series you'd know that god's have the power to send people into other places and dimensions, and the Hulk has passed out in the upper atmosphere layers on earth. Kratos at full god of war power could teleport him into the deepest pits of space.
Kratos killed the sisters of fate (millenniums before the existence of the Hulk), meaning he controlls time now. Kratos could go back in time when David Banner was a baby and kill him via asphyxiation (suffocation) with a pillow in his crib./thread
Edit: How can the Hulk kill him and keep him dead, he's died before (Kratos) and fought his way up from Hades to the living world a couple times before with a brand new body.
viepr149
08-26-2008, 01:03 AM
What?! All Kratos has to do is wait for him to revert back to being a scientist and stealth kill his ass when he's sleeping. Oh yeah if you played the GOW series you'd know that god's have the power to send people into other places and dimensions, and the Hulk has passed out in the upper atmosphere layers on earth. Kratos at full god of war power could teleport him into the deepest pits of space.
Kratos killed the sisters of fate (millenniums before the existence of the Hulk), meaning he controlls time now. Kratos could go back in time when David Banner was a baby and kill him via asphyxiation (suffocation) with a pillow in his crib./thread
Edit: How can the Hulk kill him and keep him dead, he's died before (Kratos) and fought his way up from Hades to the living world a couple times before with a brand new body.
this just swayed my vote. gg
YcageL
08-26-2008, 06:40 PM
What?! All Kratos has to do is wait for him to revert back to being a scientist and stealth kill his ass when he's sleeping. Oh yeah if you played the GOW series you'd know that god's have the power to send people into other places and dimensions, and the Hulk has passed out in the upper atmosphere layers on earth. Kratos at full god of war power could teleport him into the deepest pits of space.
Kratos killed the sisters of fate (millenniums before the existence of the Hulk), meaning he controlls time now. Kratos could go back in time when David Banner was a baby and kill him via asphyxiation (suffocation) with a pillow in his crib./thread
Edit: How can the Hulk kill him and keep him dead, he's died before (Kratos) and fought his way up from Hades to the living world a couple times before with a brand new body.
Hulk wasn't suppose to be winning in the first place, the thread starter had him fighting the movie version. If you or anyone else hasn't noticed I was listing Feats. from one of the comic version Hulks, no one said anything so I kept on with it. I was arguing in favor of the Hulk, so of course I would try to sway votes my way :bigwink: If I was in favor of Kratos, I would've been called me,or anyone else on those Feats., because the movie version never showed nearly what i've mentioned. In the movie version he actually gets a cut on his chest from a fight with the mutated army dude(Strongest form). I would've ended this thread right there if I was against Hulk, I just wanted to see if anyone had anything to bring to the table other than Kratos>Hulk.
But because as i've said before the thread starter basically said Kratos vs. Green movie hulk - fight. It was a shit thread to begin with. A -Vs- thread with no kind of rules to determine a fight winner(Circumstances,knowledge of Opp.,Prep time,RFP Rules(Removal from play:ex. Being knocked out,1st time death,etc.) Will become a big 'ol never ending spam thread.
Now it's time for me to troll before I leave this thread for good.
How can the Hulk kill him and keep him dead, he's died before (Kratos) and fought his way up from Hades to the living world a couple times before with a brand new body
This could've been easily avoidable if the Op used things mentioned above. RFP,KO,Death. I see it like this in a imaginary -Vs- fight, if you are removed from the field via any of the above you lose the fight, no matter if you can come back or not. This would make a battle somewhat plausible , because we all know video game characters can't die, they just restart, this would be my alibi for any game character in a -Vs- fight without rules, and you know what? I would not be wrong either, it would be lame as hell to use this argument in a -Vs- battle, but you wouldn't be wrong.
Kratos killed the sisters of fate (millenniums before the existence of the Hulk), meaning he controlls time now. Kratos could go back in time when David Banner was a baby and kill him via asphyxiation (suffocation) with a pillow in his crib./thread
Yet again, I see it's someone who thinks that if you have the power to go back in time, that automatically means you know who's who. If you had powers to go back in time, could you go back in time and find Ghandi as a teenager/kid? I wouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt, seeing as how you think Kratos could just randomly go back in time and find someone who he has no idea what they look like, or their real name.
What?! All Kratos has to do is wait for him to revert back to being a scientist and stealth kill his ass when he's sleeping.
So what you're saying here is that Kratos runs like a little bitch? Yet again if rules were in place, that would mean a loss, since their wouldn't be a way for him to "wait" for him to turn back to Banner unless he were completely gone from Hulks sight.
Oh yeah if you played the GOW series you'd know that god's have the power to send people into other places and dimensions, and the Hulk has passed out in the upper atmosphere layers on earth. Kratos at full god of war power could teleport him into the deepest pits of space.
/TrollTyme~/
Yea ok, we get it, your overpowered Kratos beats movie Hulk, not really impressive seeing as how movie hulk is weak as hell compared to the assortment of comic versions. Also I love how you had to bring out the ubergodmodecan'tdieunlessplugfallsout Kratos to make a semi decent argument against movie hulk :bigwink:
/TrollTyme~ 'ova/
Well i'm done with this thread, have fun.
+1
Mr.SelfDestruct
08-26-2008, 07:46 PM
Thats the Edward Norton version of the hulk. Not the pussy lime-colored one from 2004.
I personally think Kratos. Even without magic, could kill hulk.
Me and my friends had a pretty heated debate about this one night. Just wanting to see what you all thought.
Just for reference.
This is the original question. And, assuming we take the question 100% literally, it's Hulk vs. Kratos. No magic, no toys. One man versus another.
So yes, Kratos is badass. But we have to face the facts, he'd be a pushover against the Hulk without his abilities or toys. If we assume Kratos gets a weapon (i.e. Blades of Chaos), do we assume that the Hulk does too (i.e. Wrecking Ball)? If we do that, it can constantly be skewed one way or another, and the question never included details like that.
A wrestling match between the two. Yeah, Kratos would be fucked.
BraineateR
08-26-2008, 10:32 PM
Never knew so many people got a hard on from a crappy hero like the hulk. Why not read comics like Spawn man? better drawn, better story. And why does his pants never completly rip? his waitst expands way too much for those pants to stay there.
Daucus Karota
08-26-2008, 10:33 PM
I agree, Spawn is superior to the Hulk!
Al Paccioli
08-28-2008, 05:24 PM
Never knew so many people got a hard on from a crappy hero like the hulk. Why not read comics like Spawn man? better drawn, better story. And why does his pants never completly rip? his waitst expands way too much for those pants to stay there.
Pfft, why get a hard on for super hero crap to begin with?
The Preacher, Transmetropolitan, etc
xXSpawnXx
08-28-2008, 05:55 PM
I agree, Spawn is superior to the Hulk!
QFT! And YcageL my facts>>>>your rhetoric. The whole idea of Kratos not being able to know who is who "back then" makes no sense, the 3 sisters of fate had the fates of all that lived on Earth through the strings, he would of eventually would of found out who the Hulk was. Killing David Banner as a baby in his crib trumps any of his "so called" achievements.
YcageL
08-28-2008, 08:36 PM
God, i'm sorry I just can't leave this topic.. it's pulling me back. It's also where alot of my post come from :wave:
And YcageL my facts>>>>your rhetoric.
I'm glad you mentioned that, I really am. Now since what everything you're stating is supposed 100% facts, please give me link(s) to specific parts of the storyline(or even better,game videos) that you're mentioning him doing, because at the same time I wouldn't have a problem doing the same for the Hulk i've been using. We all know Facts/Cannon is what wins these, I can provide links/evidence to what i've been stating, but can you(and everyone else)? Until then i'll take everything you say as opinion, and very skewed facts, which ultimately doesn't matter.
the 3 sisters of fate had the fates of all that lived on Earth through the strings, he would of eventually would of found out who the Hulk was.
Killing David Banner as a baby in his crib trumps any of his "so called" achievements.
Yes, because he knows the hulk is a human...somehow. How do you know he would look at the strings at all, common logic: If some big ass monster came to your door would you assume his real form was a human? I wouldn't. Therefore why would Kratos even bother looking through all the strings in the first place for a green monster? Take a look a this.
THE MOIRAI (or Moirae) were the goddesses of fate who personified the inescapable destiny of man. They assinged to every person his or her fate or share in the scheme of things.At the birth of a man, the Moirai spinned out the thread of his future life, followed his steps, and directed the consequences of his actions according to the counsel of the gods.
According to this, their power worked only on Humans/Gods. Doesn't mention anything about random animals and other non-factor monsters back in their days. So let's give your character Kratos the benefit of the doubt and say he looks anyway, and while i'm at it, let's give you another benefit and say monsters ARE in the strings of faith. He would spend the rest of his life looking through monster strings for something that isn't there? Doubt it.
The whole idea of Kratos not being able to know who is who "back then" makes no sense,
You also know what makes no sense? The fact that the three sisters knew each persons faith, and had the power to cut each string if they wanted to. Yet they still managed to get killed by him? Yea, ok. :rollseyes
Also while we're at it..
The Moirai were independent, at the helm of necessity, directed fate, and watched that the fate assigned to every being by eternal laws might take its course without obstruction; and Zeus, as well as the other gods and man, had to submit to them.
So he had faiths power, and didn't kill the boss of the game from there? So basically what you're saying is that him having the power of faith was only a plot device/fodder to further the gameplay? Did he even cut strings in the game to kill things on a average basis, or anything during REAL gameplay? I'll be waiting on a storyline link directly to this happening or gameplay footage on this one too.
So I don't know how my previous comment hits you as making no sense when this so obviously insignificant action takes place: Kratos kills the sisters of Faith who were 100x more knowledgeable about their powers, but somehow became stupid when Kratos' main character powers kicked in. Then all of a sudden he instantly becomes a string of faith Guro who knows the ins and outs of how to work 'dem strangs~? Please.
Edit:
Just for reference.
This is the original question. And, assuming we take the question 100% literally, it's Hulk vs. Kratos. No magic, no toys. One man versus another.
So yes, Kratos is badass. But we have to face the facts, he'd be a pushover against the Hulk without his abilities or toys. If we assume Kratos gets a weapon (i.e. Blades of Chaos), do we assume that the Hulk does too (i.e. Wrecking Ball)? If we do that, it can constantly be skewed one way or another, and the question never included details like that.
A wrestling match between the two. Yeah, Kratos would be fucked.
QFT
xXSpawnXx
09-02-2008, 02:23 AM
Wow man, you care too much about winning e-arguments ehh? Distorting events and happenings in space and time>>>anything that's been mentioned otherwise.
YcageL
09-07-2008, 12:55 PM
Distorting events and happenings in space and time>>>anything that's been mentioned otherwise.
"Now since what everything you're stating is supposed 100% facts, please give me link(s) to specific parts of the storyline(or even better,game videos) that you're mentioning I can provide links/evidence to what i've been stating, but can you(and everyone else)? Until then i'll take everything you say as opinion, and very skewed facts, which ultimately doesn't matter."
Guess I win this particular "e-argument" :wave:
blazehaze888
10-20-2008, 11:09 PM
first off hulk
hes fought gods and they are not omnipotent and in gow at most they are all seeing all knowing and even thats a stretch
kratos made it outta hell because hades didnt give a shit about him or he obviously could have eaten him alive
god of war is just littered with PIS there were so many instances where kratos could have been curbstomped but it never happened
they obviously had an end for gow or they woulda kept stretching it out unlike hulk it cant just end if they put hulk up against zeus and let him win it kills both chars in the long run but gow is more a short story with begining and end and with that giving the people who made kratos to do whatever they want with him because after said and done hes main char in hulks story they have to slowly progress through monthly comics which show slowly hulks abilities and then hulk did kill onslaught which was more then a god and he ussually doesnt have problems with ares hes puched through a time storm which from what i can remember kratos can only slow time so no challenge
i wouldnt count items because anyone can get there hands on them and use them and to use the threads of fate kratos actually has to go to that huge room and find hulks thread while hes chasing him GOOD LUCK WITH THAT if that kinda plot device would even work since hulk is technically not from kratos universe and hulks main power is strength which is universal
btw i read earlier about medusas gaze working on him it wouldnt grey gargoyle turned hulk to stone and he healed in seconds and kitty pride phased his hands into concrete and he pulled them out with no problem i can guarantee you it would have a much different effect on kratos
hulk can do just about everything kratos does in the games
the gods in gow just arent impressive do you know what marvel zeus could do to kratos? or even all of olympus
everyone has there sides i like kratos but in gow the video game plus theyr trying to make him kill all the gods and be the reason why no more greek mythos sounds like EGO to me anyone who wrote hulk seemed to have more self control which gets my vote
ive never done this but i was just surfing and found this and read some things people said and no im not goin with movie hulk at home at library no comp and kratos is powerful but i go hulk the place is closin so in all hulk is a force of nature governed by nothing but the universe itself and im sure if his story was goin to end soon unimaginable things could happen even the guy next to me agrees either way awesome fight but spawn vs hulk is cooler anyway or maybe alucard vs spawn gtg hate me whatever i like hulk and kratos
its pretty sloppy but i dont usually do this the guy next to me was helpin me
puppetmasterjjk
10-20-2008, 11:32 PM
^^^ VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
Commas and periods please, I almost got whiplash from reading that so quickly.
YcageL
10-21-2008, 12:31 AM
first off hulk
hes fought gods and they are not omnipotent and in gow at most they are all seeing all knowing they obviously had an end for gow or they woulda kept stretching it out unlike hulk it cant just end if they put hulk up against zeus and let him win it kills both chars in the long run but gow is more a short story with begining and end and with that giving the people who made kratos to do whatever they want with him because after said and done hes main char in hulks story they have to slowly progress through monthly comics which show slowly hulks abilities and then hulk did kill onslaught which was more then a god and he ussually doesnt have problems with ares hes puched through a time storm which from what i can remember kratos can only slow time so no challenge everyone has there sides i like kratos but in gow the video game plus theyr trying to make him kill all the gods and be the reason why no more greek mythos sounds like EGO to me anyone who wrote hulk seemed to have more self control which gets my vote and if hulks emo whats batman or supes always in shadows that sneaky bat had someone who was poor and lost there family im pretty sure if they wanted revenge it would be primitive and full of vengence not so much justice bats is some rich boy with the money can do it and rich boys seem pretty emo to me-celebs ive never done this but i was just surfing and found this and read some things people said and no im not goin with movie hulk at home at library no comp and kratos is powerful but i go hulk the place is closin so in all hulk is a force of nature governed by nothing but the universe itself and im sure if his story was goin to end soon unimaginable things could happen even the guy next to me agrees either way awesome fight but spawn vs hulk is cooler anyway or maybe alucard vs spawn gtg hate me whatever i like hulk and kratos marvel is not emo because ive seen comics of all kinds like sandman is good but it definitely tries to tap into the emotional side of a reader it has to save the world be a hero get the girl come now its pretty sloppy but i dont usually do this the guy next to me was helpin me
Awesome post, thank the guy next to you, too.
Edit
600 rawr
Molson
10-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Are you serious? The fucking Hulk all the way. The dude like, killed Superman (who's a pussy anyways). Fucking nothing can kill the hulk.
Well, except love!
sperspeedy
12-07-2008, 04:31 PM
Kratos wins because:
1) Can control time... At the end of GOW II when he was taking the titans to the future is evidence he can go in the future and past without the loom or w/e.
2) As the "God Of War" Kratos is immortal meaning the Hulk cannot kill him... evidence=When he drained his power in BoO(Blade Of Olympus) the titan Gaia mentions he was now mortal meaning he was immortal as the GodOfWar
3) Kratos now controls the thread of life of everything as mentioned in greek mythology... It controls monsters,gods,mortals and etc... basically everything... dont believe me? search it up and by having the BoO that ended the great war with 1 slash against the supreme titans kratos basically wins........
Arkanos
12-07-2008, 05:49 PM
The Hulk would rape Kratos. In fact, the raping would probably kill Kratos.
sperspeedy
12-07-2008, 06:23 PM
The Hulk would rape Kratos. In fact, the raping would probably kill Kratos.
Please state logical reasons and dont be bias...
PavelusMaximus
12-07-2008, 06:25 PM
Please state logical reasons and dont be bias...
You signed up for THIS thread???
That said, The hulk would destroy Kratos with one punch.
sperspeedy
12-07-2008, 06:33 PM
You signed up for THIS thread???
That said, The hulk would destroy Kratos with one punch.
yeah coz 2 many chat crap
sperspeedy
12-08-2008, 04:22 PM
The hulk would destroy Kratos with one punch.
Lies you underestimate Kratos, Kratos as the God Of War is immortal..... On the other hand Hulk isn't
viepr149
12-08-2008, 04:25 PM
well if Kratos is a God then i'm gonna have to say Kratos.
Alternatively if i had to choose to be one or the other. I'd probably pick the hulk because hes a fucking animal.
Favorite part in the new Hulk movie was when he first turn into the hulk after being harassed by those three local guys. And the main local guy goes to kick him in the darkness...he gets pulled in sideways then throw like 50 yards ahaha. Then throwing the forklift was badass too.
And on a totally unrelated note...i can't wait for GOW3 for PS3...gonna be TOOOOOOOOOO DIRTY.
duke_nukem
12-08-2008, 04:34 PM
Mindless hulk would win over Kratos.
sperspeedy
12-08-2008, 04:53 PM
Mindless hulk would win over Kratos.
That is a pure lie, you state no evidence and how can a mortal defeat an immortal who can control time? its a simple matter of freezing time and with the blades of athena(enchated blades made by gods) and slaughter hulk
sperspeedy
12-09-2008, 05:55 PM
With that being said Kratos wins over the Hulk case closed
Dr.Strange
12-09-2008, 11:14 PM
I'd say hulk would win. At the end of world war hulk he was smashing the planet apart just by stomping his foot. But on the other hand kratos being some sort of immortal and god or something (not too familiar wth the game after the first one) i guess i cant count out kratos. But we all know goku would just find some new level of super saiyen and kill them both with a kamehameiha x10 billion to the fifth power eisner how the inventor shit
sperspeedy
12-10-2008, 03:37 AM
I'd say hulk would win. At the end of world war hulk he was smashing the planet apart just by stomping his foot. But on the other hand kratos being some sort of immortal and god or something (not too familiar wth the game after the first one) i guess i cant count out kratos. But we all know goku would just find some new level of super saiyen and kill them both with a kamehameiha x10 billion to the fifth power eisner how the inventor shit
Yeah Goku owns them all :D I am a dbz fan and all but the fact that Kratos is IMMORTAL means 10x kamehameha wont kill him but leave him really badly damaged..... Goku can wish for immortality and beat up Kratos for eternity so in that kind of sense Goku kinda wins? Anyway Kratos also has a 50% chance of beating Goku because he can go back in time and slaughter him when he was in a lil pod on earth............ Hulk dies too cuz um..... He loses to both of them
sperspeedy
12-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Ok so I think its agreed Kratos wins
YcageL
12-13-2008, 03:14 AM
Mindless hulk would win over Kratos.
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Dr.Strange
12-13-2008, 03:23 AM
Yeah Goku owns them all :D I am a dbz fan and all but the fact that Kratos is IMMORTAL means 10x kamehameha wont kill him but leave him really badly damaged..... Goku can wish for immortality and beat up Kratos for eternity so in that kind of sense Goku kinda wins? Anyway Kratos also has a 50% chance of beating Goku because he can go back in time and slaughter him when he was in a lil pod on earth............ Hulk dies too cuz um..... He loses to both of them
DBZ just makes shit up as it goes and you are gay for going into that much detail about how dbz is still your prepubiscent wet dream and goku, a fag, has to make a wish to win.
sperspeedy
12-14-2008, 03:45 PM
DBZ just makes shit up as it goes and you are gay for going into that much detail about how dbz is still your prepubiscent wet dream and goku, a fag, has to make a wish to win.
lmao immature fool, you didnt even respond the thread question so go dig a grave and dive in it
sperspeedy
12-14-2008, 03:52 PM
btw im waiting to prove to you guys that kratos wins so vote 4 kratos
BestNameEver
12-14-2008, 04:10 PM
lmao immature fool, you didnt even respond the thread question so go dig a grave and dive in it
Jesus christ dude, give it up. This thread is old as hell. And your calling him immature when you made an account to defend with your life that a video game character is better then a comic book character. Who gives a fuck.
Dr.Strange
12-14-2008, 07:36 PM
lmao immature fool, you didnt even respond the thread question so go dig a grave and dive in it
Nice fucking fail you idiot. I did reply to the thread question in a previous post. That was a reply to you. Who's laughing now noob
BangoBango
12-20-2008, 12:19 AM
im just wondering since i dont know kratos..but dont gods have the choise of life or death over other beings?...if kratos becomes a big god..cant he just fucking choose to put the hulk in hell or something or just banish him..?
Curiosity
12-20-2008, 02:48 AM
Kratos v The Incredible Hulk
Draw.
They both fight until hulks groin rubs against Kratos's leg,they both notice this,then hulk's penis starts to dig into Kratos's leg,Kratos starts getting hard,they both then have passionate homosexual sex...
Whilst laying in bed wondering how each other thought how they were at it.
CHUCK NORRIS COME'S IN AND BEATS BOTH THEIR ASS'S FOR BEING FAGS.
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