The Giants

[Krippled By Kush]

who thinks they will do it again, or go far again this year? From last weeks game they sure seem strong. I have hope in my team, hopefully they will put their part into it.

[moose]

I don't think so....

They got hot at the right time. Everyone in their division got players and improved except them. It's possible but I don't see it being very likely at all.... There's a good chance they won't even make the playoffs because their division is just that damn good.

[atreyu_2020]

I don't buy into that "they got hot at the right time". It's like taking credit away from the damn team because they fucking won games. They had to win them, they did, case closed. Had nothing to do with being hot, it had to do with them being the best team last season at the end of the day.

That said, I don't think they'll make the playoffs this year. Phili improved so much over the offseason with Redskins and Dallas just too good. That being said, I ALWAYS count the Giants out, they don't look like the greatest team on paper but goddamn are they consistent. Every year at the start of the season I never pick them to go to the playoffs and they prove me wrong. So while I say I don't think they'll make the playoffs, I won't be surprised if they did.

As for a repeat, I can't see it.

[Krippled By Kush]

It would be very difficult for a repeat but anything is possible. People are saying its going to be difficult without Shockey but they won last year without him, in my honest opinion he was destroying the team anyway.

[moose]

I dont really know if you play sports but momentum is huge. Sometimes when things get rolling and you gain confidence and feel like you can't be beat, you really can't. Now a team that beat Miami by 3, lions by 6, bears by 5, the jets by 9, lost to the pack by 23 and lost the vikings by 24.... I don't consider them really the overall best team in the league. They "got hot" and made some big plays when they needed to and it won them a superbowl. I'm not trying to take a way from what they did; all i'm saying is that they did have alot of momentum and it happened at the right time.

[Wu-tang]

As for a repeat, I can't see it.

And no one saw it last year, :D.

Do I think the Giants will repeat? Yep.

The last three years I've defended the NYG even though so many people didn't give them credit, but this offseason I don't feel like it...but i'll do it anyway.


Sure they can, quality players, good chemistry, good management, the whole organization is just doing great. Look at how well their draft class played this past year. Has any rookie class done that much for a teams SB run? Even the 7th rounders were getting reps in. The whole team is full of young players that'll just get better. And then next year we get an extra 2nd and 5th, and then we'll get comp picks for Wilson, Kawika, Torbor. The Giants have so much depth that teams are scouting players that aren't going to make their roster.

Strahan, Shockey, Gibril Wilson, and Kawika Mitchell may be missed, but we all ready have young players ready to step up. Osi/Tuck and the rest of the line still make up one of the best d-lines in the nfl. Boss/Johnson/Matthews don't necessarily have the talent Shockey did, but they're still young and getting better with Mike Pope, the best TE coach in the league.

I'm a little worried about the LBers, but that front four will make their job easier. Pierce is a solid MLB and Kiwanuka was playing well before his injury. Danny Clarks isn't too well known, but the Giants have done well with small name LBers in the past. The rest of the LBers are young with a lot of potential. Corners are stacked. Aaron Ross had a good rookie year, Corey Webster shut it down in the playoffs, Sam Madison has really done a good job with these young corners on the team. Kevin Dockery has some good moments and is a legitimate nfl corner. And then we still have the 2nd round pick Terell Thomas. James Butler makes mistakes, but he isn't a bad safety, and he'll be splitting time with Michael Johnson who had a pretty good rookie year, solid tackler. Kenny Phillips, who before last year was considered a top 10 pick, but may be the steal of the draft this year at 31. He looked great during his reps, would be nice for him to have a rookie year as good as Gibril's.

The Giants WR crew might be one of the bests in the NFC, I'd pick them over the rest of NFC East. Plaxico isn't TO, but he can have monster games. Amani Toomer is much better than Crayton. Steve Smith had several key moments in the Giants run, and would've had a bigger impact had he not been injured for most of the season. Domenik Hixon dominated the Browns first-teamers in a "preseason game", and he's 4-5 on the depth chart. Sinorice Moss never saw the field much because of injuries, so he's not much of a factor but, he might be able to have more of an impact next year. It's still his 3rd year. Mario Manningham has shit tons of potential(once considered a 1st round draft pick), but I don't see him having a big impact til a year or two from now. And then even still, there's SB hero David Tyree, who might not even make the final roster. I don't see much of an argument for any of the other WR crews in the NFC East. The Eagles WR crew is garbage, I'm sorry but McNabb is really working with shit. Besides TO(and sure you can even count Witten), the Cowboys receivers don't scare me. Crayton makes a play every once in a while but I'll take Amani over him every day.

The Giants have one of the best RB comittees in the league. No one has as much depth at RB than the Giants. 3 100-yard rushers last year, Droughns also had a 90-yard game... The Giants had the rights for Ryan Grant before the season started last year too, deeeeeeeep.

Romo and McNabb have thrown up some stats, but I'd glady have Eli over any other QB in the NFC East, especially in the clutch. He wins games, and has the ability to take over games. Also...he has a ring, and fuck you if you try to use a Trent Dilfer reference because that's not even applicable.

I dont really know if you play sports but momentum is huge. Sometimes when things get rolling and you gain confidence and feel like you can't be beat, you really can't. Now a team that beat Miami by 3, lions by 6, bears by 5, the jets by 9, lost to the pack by 23 and lost the vikings by 24.... I don't consider them really the overall best team in the league. They "got hot" and made some big plays when they needed to and it won them a superbowl. I'm not trying to take a way from what they did; all i'm saying is that they did have alot of momentum and it happened at the right time.
As big as momentum is, it's not going to take you to a championship unless you have talent. A team doesn't just "get hot" if they beat 2 very good teams in a tough stadium and then the 18-0 Patriots... Did you watch the Miami game? It was played on a soccer field in the rain, not pretty. Not a good judge of talent. The packers game was week 2, and that really isn't a good display of their talent either. If you watched the season, they started 0-2 giving up a total of 80 points in both games, and then the defense turned the corner week 3 on a goal line stand, set a record amount of sacks against the eagles, etc. etc. etc. The defense was something else against the Packers. That lions team was 6-3 at the time. The Vikings game was just a terribly played game, which teams have.

Doubt them all you want, they've made the playoffs 3 straight years they weren't supposed to, won a SB when magazines were having them go 6-10, won a SB with 1 pro-bowler, the media's accolades really don't mean anything nor does your prediction when they're getting into the playoffs and earning SB Rings. As long as they don't get too many injuries, which killed them in past years(even still they won a SB missing a starting OLB, one of their biggest offensive weapons on the team, dinged up WRs, etc.).

[moose]

I'm not a big fan of your addition by subtraction theory.

[Wu-tang]

I never said anything about addition by subtraction... Stating that we won a SB without Shockey doesn't mean we're better without him, just that the other TE's are good enough to win with.

[Mysterio]

who thinks they will do it again, or go far again this year? From last weeks game they sure seem strong. I have hope in my team, hopefully they will put their part into it.

Its pre season see 1972 Dolphins.

But they are a good team and hopfully will go far, but I just can't see them with the repeat. They have a week conference with Dallas being the main competition so they could make it to the Super Bowl (as Romo has always let the team down)

[JerkyMyTurky]

I think they have a great chance to make the playoffs and go far again. They were one of the youngest teams last year, with many rookies stepping up the level of play in the playoffs. Those young players and rookies are all a year older, a year more experienced (playoffs experience is key) and will probably be playing better this year. Also, the main reason there were so many rookies playing in the playoffs, because there were numerous key injuries to starters. A number of those injured players are healthy this year and that just adds to the depth this team has. Over the past few years, they have shown with the loss of a big star, the youngsters can pick up the slack. When Tiki Barber retired at his prime, Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw picked up the slack. When Shockey went down to injury, Boss filled in the role perfectly. This year, we have Strahan retiring, but I think guys like Osi, Tuck and Kiwanuka will pick up the slack. Also, I think guys like Steve Smith, Boss, Bradshaw, Kiwanuka, Tuck, Hixon and Moss can have potentially huge seasons. The team is extremely well balanced, deep and young. They also have a great coaching staff. I'm very confident they will make the playoffs again this year and win some more playoffs games. They have a good chance to repeat, but its still early to tell what kind of teams to expect come towards playoff time.

[Nick is cool]

IMO they are gonna have a very hard time making the playoffs. The giants snuck up on everyone (atreyu i agree with you in a sense, but you always get the teams best when your defending champs, and you dont always get the same intensity against you when your a average wild card team). Losing strahans leadership hurts alot.


If eli continues to get better they can play with anyone, and if they make the playoffs they have a good chance at going far, but i dont think they have any chance at all to repeat.

[Roushpimpn]

They will be a tough team. Their defense is still going to be good.

[Wu-tang]

I don't see how anyone with any football IQ would say that the Giants have no chance to repeat. No chance? Really? So what else does this team have to do to become a SB contender? They've all ready won one.

[atreyu_2020]

I don't see how anyone with any football IQ would say that the Giants have no chance to repeat. No chance? Really? So what else does this team have to do to become a SB contender? They've all ready won one.

I'm not saying they have no chance but the way you're sounding it's as if they have a better shot to go back then they don't.

[AsHopeDies]

I don't see how anyone with any football IQ would say that the Giants have no chance to repeat. No chance? Really? So what else does this team have to do to become a SB contender? They've all ready won one.

Who was in the SB the year before? What did the Bears do last year? What did the Giants do the year before their Super Bowl win? I don't see how anyone with any football IQ would base a team's chances at success on last year.

[lordlamneth]

They will be a tough team. Their defense is still going to be good.

The word is that Osi is out for the year, which really hurts the Giants chances at a repeat. All because of a fucking pre-season game :banghead:

Kiwanuka's moved up to the line for the year.

It was going to be hard for them to repeat, and now it'll be even more of a challenge.

But I'm just gonna keep telling myself, "We just won a championship, beating the Patriots in epic fashion, so it's kinda ok if the Giants don't repeat this year."

I mean, no one hates on the Steelers or Colts because they didn't repeat, right?

[proton]

1. They have a very talented and very deep receiver core.
2. If there O line steps up and gives Eli the time, we know what he is capable of.
3. Strahan will not be missed.
4. They have looked crisp out of the gate thus far in preseason play.
5. Brandon Jacobs.

I believe their buy week is early this year so that kinda sucks, but I definitely see them going deep in the play offs.

[JerkyMyTurky]

Osi Umenyiora is out for the season with a knee injury. That hurts quite a bit. He was their only pro-bowler last year.

[proton]

I did not know that. Well that kinda sucks.

EDIT: I just heard on ESPN the Giants are offering $8 million to Michael Strahan to come back. He's not interested...yet.

[gotfanatics]

Not a chance, how you like them apples.

[Wu-tang]

Who was in the SB the year before? What did the Bears do last year? What did the Giants do the year before their Super Bowl win? I don't see how anyone with any football IQ would base a team's chances at success on last year.

The Colts won SB 41, and they made the play offs this past year. The Bears got into the SB with a terrible QB in a weak weak weak conference. The Giants were in the playoffs 3 years straight before they went to the SB. They've been good. The two aren't comparable.