The Official 2008-2009 College Football Thread

[Liberator13]

Its finally here!

Surprised this thread isn't already in existence.

I'm pumped to watch the Huskers tonight!

Great game between Virginia Tech and East Carolina right now.

22-20, VT, late in the 4th.

BLOCKED PUNT!!!!! EAST CAROLINA SCORES! 27-22!

[esruC]

What a game.

[Liberator13]

That was intense. What a way to win.

[tonythetiger]

I bet you guys 100 internets that Mizzou wins.

[emoisgay]

anyone know where i can watch the Texas vs florida atlanic game? Someone thought it would be good to PPV such a game...

[esruC]

I bet you guys 100 internets that Mizzou wins.

I'll take that bet. GO ILLINI!

[emoisgay]

wow that mizzou guy jumped over that guy kinda like sam mc guffy did on the high school level haha.

[tonythetiger]

I'll take that bet. GO ILLINI!

You owe me 100 internets! Maclin was fucking awsome in that game.

[Liberator13]

Tennessee - UCLA game is pretty interesting. Good game so far with ~6:30 left in the 2nd quarter.

[sweet]

that was a good game. UCLA with the win.

[Liberator13]

That was an incredible game. The last 9 minutes are so was exhilarating to watch. What an awful way to lose though.

[emoisgay]

Here come another exciting sat of college ball

[High On PCP]

I'm calling it now..... Sooners to the National Championship game.


LOL, btw, just flipped on Ohio vs Ohio State. 12:30 left in the 3rd, and OHIO is up by 1 point.

[emoisgay]

I'm calling it now..... Sooners to the National Championship game.


LOL, btw, just flipped on Ohio vs Ohio State. 12:30 left in the 3rd, and OHIO is up by 1 point.

sooners? BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA usc will thump them.

USC
GEORGIA
TEXAS
OU

ohio is getting spanked in some degree.

[moose]

West Virginia what the fuck are you doing right now???????

[FuNkYFreSH]

my canes got tired in the fourth quarter. still was a great game and we're getting better

[tonythetiger]

Mizzou vs SEMO was just stupid.

[FuNkYFreSH]

what are your thoughts on the celebration penalty at the end of the Washington-BYU game?

[Liberator13]

what are your thoughts on the celebration penalty at the end of the Washington-BYU game?

Horseshit call. Washington got fucked.

[High On PCP]

sooners? BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA usc will thump them.

Lol@ USC.

USC is like the Nirvana or Metallica of college football.


They are good, yes... very good, yes.

Most overrated ever? Definitely so.

[Liberator13]

I had a good laugh watching someone say this was the best USC team since Bush/Leinhart.

Oklahoma would lolpwnzer to Califags.

[Liberator13]

What a fucking week.

USC drops, Florida just lost, and it's only 3 Central time.

[emoisgay]

looks to be a big 12 vs SEC bowl.

[Liberator13]

I'd be happy if the Sooners won it all. I'd like the Big-12 to look well in the bowl games, but I can't stand Texas winning again. I can't stand them.

[High On PCP]

sooners? BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA usc will thump them.

USC
GEORGIA
TEXAS
OU


LOL- you have to be feeling a bit faggy right now.

[1972Challenger]

Michigan game got good real quick... Dismal first half...

[2000 civic si]

I'd be happy if the Sooners won it all. I'd like the Big-12 to look well in the bowl games, but I can't stand Texas winning again. I can't stand them.

Not me, I love it. McCoy will be the top 2 in the Heisman if he keeps playing like this.

[Liberator13]

Not me, I love it. McCoy will be the top 2 in the Heisman if he keeps playing like this.

One of my best friends is a Longhorns fan, and it drives me fucking crazy. He went to a Texas/Nebraska game about 10 years ago, NU lost, and he was suddenly a Texas fan.

Texas is for queers and wiggers, unless you're from there.

[Mysterio]

Michigan game got good real quick... Dismal first half...

Yea it ended up being a really good game, another upset this weekend!

[2000 civic si]

One of my best friends is a Longhorns fan, and it drives me fucking crazy. He went to a Texas/Nebraska game about 10 years ago, NU lost, and he was suddenly a Texas fan.

Texas is for queers and wiggers, unless you're from there.

Well thank god i am from texas. Lord knows if i wasn't, Maybe i'd hit on you.

[Liberator13]

Well thank god i am from texas. Lord knows if i wasn't, Maybe i'd hit on you.

Or you would start rapping.


I don't know which I'd hate more.

[SportsFan81]

1,3,4,9 BOOM. down. Think Bama could jump to 2? Oklahoma has got to be number one. And Texas will be rounding out the top 3

1. OKLA
2. BAMA
3. TEX

[SCMC]

Or you would start rapping.


I don't know which I'd hate more.
Do you know a lot of rappers from Texas?

[SCMC]

1,3,4,9 BOOM. down. Think Bama could jump to 2? Oklahoma has got to be number one. And Texas will be rounding out the top 3

1. OKLA
2. BAMA
3. TEX
Yeah that looks about right, man the Red River Shootout this year is looking to be a good one. I especially will like the battle of the QB's. McCoy or Bradford will make the difference, either taking their team to the win or making a huge mistake for the loss.

[sweet]

How the fuck did OSU not move up? We even went down last week after a win. These rankings are bullshit.

[Banzai]

PSU is finally getting some respect...

[SportsFan81]

PSU is finally getting some respect...

haha success. They shouldnt be that high up though, Id say 8 or 9

[x1_nick_1x]

Yes I agree, Ohio State should be ranked atleast number 11. They lost to the number one team and fell to 14. USC, Florida, both lost to unranked teams and are still ahead of Ohio State. It's not fair, especially since OSU has a new quarterback and healthy Wells.

[sweet]

Yes I agree, Ohio State should be ranked atleast number 11. They lost to the number one team and fell to 14. USC, Florida, both lost to unranked teams and are still ahead of Ohio State. It's not fair, especially since OSU has a new quarterback and healthy Wells.

They fell to 13 then won, then fell to 14. BS

[Devastation]

My Cats are 4-0 (at least until next Saturday when they go to Tuscaloosa).

[Liberator13]

Ohio State is constantly overrated. They need to be happy where they are.

[sgmusic]

S.E.C. best conference... last week there were 5 s.e.c. teams in the top 10... that's a first for any conference.

[x1_nick_1x]

S.E.C. best conference... last week there were 5 s.e.c. teams in the top 10... that's a first for any conference.


I'm so sick of hearing people big up an entire conference. Pick a school or two, stick with it. Not the entire conference. Shit, you're supposed to hate the other schools in the conference. I like OSU and PSU, I hope everyone else in the big 10 gets killed.

[Liberator13]

Obviously, my avatar is my allegiance. Honestly, if I had to choose a second favorite team, it would be Texas Tech, even if they are in the Big 12 as well. And I know TT is going to destroy my beloved Huskers in a few weeks, I just enjoy watching them.

Having said that, I fucking hate Colorado, Mizzou, and Texas. I respect no other opponent in the nation like I do Oklahoma, that is one classy program with great fans. Conversely, the entire city of Boulder could disappear and I wouldn't shed a tear. Those have got to be THE worst fans in the country.

[x1_nick_1x]

Obviously, my avatar is my allegiance. Honestly, if I had to choose a second favorite team, it would be Texas Tech, even if they are in the Big 12 as well. And I know TT is going to destroy my beloved Huskers in a few weeks, I just enjoy watching them.


No they're not. TT is not going to beat Nebraska. Of course I'm guessing. But based on what happened to USC and Florida, and seeing as I believe TT is overrated anyway, I would bet Nebraska.

[Liberator13]

No they're not. TT is not going to beat Nebraska. Of course I'm guessing. But based on what happened to USC and Florida, and seeing as I believe TT is overrated anyway, I would bet Nebraska.

Tech is purely a passing team with a great QB-receiver tandem in Harrell-Crabtree, and Nebraska lacks any sort of competent secondary.

It will be ugly.

[High On PCP]

S.E.C. best conference... last week there were 5 s.e.c. teams in the top 10... that's a first for any conference.

Top 10? pffft.



It's the top 5 that, at any given time, are the ones who are really jockeying for position for a shot at the National Championship game.

Oklahoma
Alabama
LSU
Missouri
Texas




Sorry brosef, this year, it's about the Big 12.

[tonythetiger]

em eye zee...zee owe you

[sweet]

Well #10 USF just lost to PITT. Not that it helps OSU even if we beat #18 Wisconsin, I'm sure OSU will still find some way to stay at 14.

[x1_nick_1x]

Nope, USF lost, Auburn lost, OSU won. So, they SHOULD move up two rankings. Terrelle is playing some amazing football. He hiccupped a little bit in the first half I think because Wisconsin was the best team he's played so far, so he had to adjust to their speed. Which he did. I love being able to say I know that kid. He's got the potential to go down as one of the greatest ever. Based only on how he's playing as a true freshman. But like I said, I've seen what he can do in person week in and week out when he played at my highschool. You've seen nothing. Especially you, sweet, being an OSU fan. Just wait.

[Nick is cool]

Nope, USF lost, Auburn lost, OSU won. So, they SHOULD move up two rankings. Terrelle is playing some amazing football. He hiccupped a little bit in the first half I think because Wisconsin was the best team he's played so far, so he had to adjust to their speed. Which he did. I love being able to say I know that kid. He's got the potential to go down as one of the greatest ever. Based only on how he's playing as a true freshman. But like I said, I've seen what he can do in person week in and week out when he played at my highschool. You've seen nothing. Especially you, sweet, being an OSU fan. Just wait.




Umm, pryor played against usc.

[sweet]

Nope, USF lost, Auburn lost, OSU won. So, they SHOULD move up two rankings. Terrelle is playing some amazing football. He hiccupped a little bit in the first half I think because Wisconsin was the best team he's played so far, so he had to adjust to their speed. Which he did. I love being able to say I know that kid. He's got the potential to go down as one of the greatest ever. Based only on how he's playing as a true freshman. But like I said, I've seen what he can do in person week in and week out when he played at my highschool. You've seen nothing. Especially you, sweet, being an OSU fan. Just wait.
:confused:
Logic has no place here on ebwf.

[emoisgay]

ou sucks haha

[Liberator13]

Goddamnit, fuck Texas.

[bobtheflob]

As a Texas fan I've always been a little on the fence about McCoy. I was really impressed by what I saw today. Bradford played great and had gaudier numbers, but I got the sense Colt put this team on his shoulders and almost single-handedly kept them in this game early.

[pantomime]

Fuck yeah! Hook 'Em! Oklahomo stil sucks.

Nick, we get that you were on the same team as Pryor. I don't give a shit. I bet he doesn't even know your name.

OSU will go up in the rankings when they prove they're a great team. To do that they need to beat a great team. Wisconsin, not a great team.

And nobody is "jockeying" for a spot in the championship game. That's not how it works. If you keep winning you'll get in. If you lose, you wont. It's pretty simple...

Edit: Shit. What a way to lose, Nebraska...

[SportsFan81]

Goddamnit, fuck Texas.

I thought youd be mad that NEB lost, not OU. lol

[tonythetiger]

Will Mizzou get #1 spot if they beat Oklahoma tonight?

[pantomime]

Will Mizzou get #1 spot if they beat Oklahoma tonight?

Impossible.

[SCMC]

I wonder where texas will wind up now, most likely 2 behind alabama since mizzouri is struggling so much against oklahoma state, and LSU looking like they will lose to florida. that sounds right, right?


:boink:

[Mr.Softee]

Go va tech woot woot hokies

[2000 civic si]

Ranked Number 1 in the land. Tough schedule ahead, But its not Impossible to win those games.

[emoisgay]

shit... i didn't want us to be ranked that high so early

[SCMC]

I bet the longhorns win all the regular season games remaining on their schedule but then lose the Big 12 championship game to missouri who will most likely be in there.

[Liberator13]

Texas has little chance in going undefeated. They have a nasty schedule. I want OU to win the championship. It will obviously be much harder, but with the way this season and last season have gone, I don't think we can safely count them out yet.

[socialite_barbi]

Go va tech woot woot hokies

hehe... I'll be rooting for Boston College!

My family is big on BC :D

[crispian123]

I got extremely excited when ESPN sent a press release with the subject line, "2008 College Football Schedule For ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN360.com, ESPN Classic, ESPN Mobile TV and ESPN Radio," but to my dismay, the thing has about a billion holes. If anyone wants it feel free to email me, and I'll gladly pass it along, but it's ridiculously incomplete and not worth posting. With that said, something we can take a look at is ESPN/ABC's Bowl Schedule for 2008-2009.

Here's the list....
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Sat., Dec. 20
Congressional Bowl (ESPN, 11am)
New Mexico Bowl (ESPN, 2:30pm)
St. Petersburg Bowl (ESPN2, 4:30pm)
Pioneer Las Vegas Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Sun., Dec. 21
R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Tue., Dec. 23
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Wed., Dec. 24
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Fri., Dec. 26
Motor City Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Sat., Dec. 27
Meineke Car Care Bowl (ESPN, 1pm)
Champs Sports Bowl (ESPN, 4:30pm)
Emerald Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Sun., Dec. 28
PetroSun Independence Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Mon., Dec. 29
Papajohns.com Bowl (ESPN, 3pm)
Valero Alamo Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)

Tue., Dec. 30
Roady’s Humanitarian Bowl (ESPN, 4:30pm)
Pacific Life Holiday Bowl( ESPN, 8pm)

Wed., Dec. 31
Bell Helicopters Armed Forces Bowl (ESPN, Noon)
Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl (ESPN, 3:30pm)
Chick-fil-A Bowl (ESPN, 7:30pm)

Thu., Jan. 1
Outback Bowl (ESPN, 11am)
Capital One Bowl (ABC, 1pm)
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi (ABC, 4:30pm)

Fri., Jan. 2
AutoZone Liberty Bowl (ESPN, 5pm)

Sat., Jan. 3
International Bowl (ESPN2, Noon)

Tue., Jan. 6
GMAC Bowl (ESPN, 8pm)
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[hipocritical]

Everything Missouri is doing is epic fail!?!

[bobtheflob]

I'm a Texas fan and even I'm shocked by how well they're playing. McCoy was 29-32 passing, and all 3 of the incompletions were batted down at the line of scrimmage. He's up over 80% for the season. That's just absurd.

[kirchow]

So I was actually at the game last night because we get season tickets to all the home games and I have to say I was disappointed that Missouri played like shit. I was really looking forward to seeing a great game, and then what happens? Colt McCoy throws 92% passing and rapes them. Better in the second half, though. Also Derek Jeter was at the game and he walked right by me and my friend with some reeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllly hot girl. He said "Hi" but wouldn't let me get a picture with him. :wah:

[sgmusic]

Top 10? pffft.



It's the top 5 that, at any given time, are the ones who are really jockeying for position for a shot at the National Championship game.

Oklahoma
Alabama
LSU
Missouri
Texas




Sorry brosef, this year, it's about the Big 12.

well if you know anything about college football... there are upsets every week. so anyone in the top 10 has a chance up until at least half the season.

[judomats13]

Go Michigan State!

[sweet]

I just want to say FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK.

I don't understand some of things Tressel does. Like, with 2:55 on 4th and 3 punting, when at that point it doesn't really matter. this might seem crazy but I would have put in Boeckman in on the last drive. He a a good long ball which Pryor is still working on, you don't need his running skills, as a 5th year senior he can handle the pressure, and lastly he knows when to not throw it avoiding the interception.

I'm fucking pissed. Hopefully some of that made sense.

[SportsFan81]

Im a Penn State fan so im glad they won.

Texas - Wow. Cant seem to mess up against big time teams. Next week should be a great match up against Texas Tech

[emoisgay]

Im a Penn State fan

wow i feel sorry for you guys if you go to the title game.

[The_Bosh]

Bama #1 across the board :boink:

[SCMC]

Bama #1 across the board :boink:

Until they lose, it's fate man, i bet Penn State ends up no.1 and in the national championship game, against who i have no idea but yeah, Penn state vs (whoever) for the national championship.

[SportsFan81]

well whoever beats number one moves up to like number one or two, so if OKST beats Texas Tech, PSU better not drop again.

[The_Bosh]

Until they lose, it's fate man, i bet Penn State ends up no.1 and in the national championship game, against who i have no idea but yeah, Penn state vs (whoever) for the national championship.



Well. See ya later!!



Now whoever wins the SEC championship will get in the national championship and the second spot will be from the Big 12 south but that has yet to be determined. Either way Bama vs. Florida in the SEC championship is going to be a great fucking game.

[SCMC]

Until they keep winning, it's fate man, i bet Penn State (doesn't) ends up no.1 and not in the national championship game, against who i have no idea but yeah, not Penn state vs (whoever) for the national championship.

See, told you guys lol

[Liberator13]

Tech > Tide

[yungwon95]

Tech > Tide

:lol:

texas tech has not seen a defense like alabama's all year. Or an offense for that matter. We would run it up the middle all day and wear down their defense. Their offense is good, no doubt, but i just dont think they have seen anything close to alabama on defense this year.

[SCMC]

:lol:

texas tech has not seen a defense like alabama's all year. Or an offense for that matter. We would run it up the middle all day and wear down their defense. Their offense is good, no doubt, but i just dont think they have seen anything close to alabama on defense this year.

they haven't, and i'm sure it'll show when they face oklahoma. In fact I'm betting they lose to OU by about 10.

[FuNkYFreSH]

Canes > Hokies

[FuNkYFreSH]

Canes < Yellow Jackets

[Liberator13]

Jail > Canes

[Devastation]

The one thing that matters right now, well, not right now, but next weekend, the 29 of Nov., in the year of our Lord 2008, Kentucky will finally beat Tennessee.

[sweet]

OSU 42-7 against michsucksagain. MNot like I didn't see that coming.

[Liberator13]

Lol, Big 10.

[sweet]

Lol, Big 12

[SCMC]

Lol, Big 12

You know the big 12 is the best conference this year, right?

[Devastation]

Until bowl season.

[SCMC]

Until bowl season.

oklahoma doesn't represent everyone you know.

[SportsFan81]

PSU is goin to the Rose Bowl =D

[FuNkYFreSH]

ND just got beat by one of the worst teams this year. :lmao:

[kirchow]

wish tech had played like they did last night against oklahoma a few weeks back when we (texas) played em

[Liberator13]

Lol, Big 12

The Big 10 is a joke. There isn't even a friggin Championship game.

[Fag Boy]

The Big 10 is a joke. There isn't even a friggin Championship game.

it only has 11 teams dumbass, show me a conference with less then 12 teams that has a championship. That is a horrible argument.

[Frood]

it only has 11 teams dumbass, show me a conference with less then 12 teams that has a championship. That is a horrible argument.
shouldn't they be called big 11?

[Fag Boy]

shouldn't they be called big 11?

What is this 1993? They have had 11 teams for a long time now, and just decided to keep the name big 10, and change the logo until another team is added which was supposed to be notre dame, but they havnt offered it yet.


The funny thing is, nebraska is a school that almost joined the big 10 in the 90's.

[pantomime]

Texas will win the NC. I'm calling it.

[bobtheflob]

Whew. I'm glad to see Texas still on top of Oklahoma in the BCS. That's the tiebreaker in the Big 12. If Texas can hold on and take care of business against A&M and Missouri they're golden.

[yungwon95]

The Tide's still rollin', bring on auburn.

[yungwon95]

Tech > Tide

You still standing behind this one? :lmao:

[Devastation]

What is this 1993? They have had 11 teams for a long time now, and just decided to keep the name big 10, and change the logo until another team is added which was supposed to be notre dame, but they havnt offered it yet.


The funny thing is, nebraska is a school that almost joined the big 10 in the 90's.

Personally, I'd like to see Missouri join the Big 10, Arkansas join the Big 12 (where they belong), and Memphis join the SEC (for basketball, obviously).

[The_Bosh]

Whew. I'm glad to see Texas still on top of Oklahoma in the BCS. That's the tiebreaker in the Big 12. If Texas can hold on and take care of business against A&M and Missouri they're golden.



If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State on the road they will pass TX in the BCS, so they are not golden

[SCMC]

they haven't, and i'm sure it'll show when they face oklahoma. In fact I'm betting they lose to OU by about 10.

Well i was right about OU winning but way off by the score, guess I gave tech a little too much credit. Texas Tech does have a good team and a pretty good coaching staff but their win over texas was way overhyped. Texas had just come off one of the hardest three game spans on anyone's schedule this year, and they were on the road, so they were extremely tired, and thoughout the game lost their best defensive player and didn't have quan cosby the whole game. Even with all those advantages for Tech it took a last second play for them to win it. Tech is good, but had that game been in Austin or the first game on that 4-game span of tough ones, The horns would have probably won it. I actually do hope Texas wins the big 12 south and the big 12 altoghther, cause I think they deserve it the most. Plus seeing either Texas or OU versus Florida or Alabama seems like a great game which ever team faces whichever.

[Devastation]

Personally, I can think of nothing better than Alabama-Texas.

[SCMC]

Personally, I can think of nothing better than Alabama-Texas.

Yeah Like I said any matchup seems great, but If I had to choose I think I would have to lean towards Texas-Florida, since they seem like the most similar teams. Both have explosive offense's lead by heisman caliber QB's to go along with a good but not great defense, and both coaching staffs are very respected because they've shown they can win a championship.

[Devastation]

I believe Nick Saban has shown that he too can win a title.

Personally, since I despise Florida, and because Alabama actually has a good defense, I'd like Texas-Alabama more.

[SCMC]

I believe Nick Saban has shown that he too can win a title.

Personally, since I despise Florida, and because Alabama actually has a good defense, I'd like Texas-Alabama more.

yeah all four head coaches have won a national championship before, saban the only one not on the team he won it with. I'm saying the coaching staff's, saban isn't with the same coaches he was with in LSU in 04', and the same for coach stoops in OU, he won in 2000, and it's been 8 years, so he doesn't have the same coaches for the most part. Urban Meyer won 2 years ago, Mack Brown 3 years ago, they both still have a large part of their coaching staffs' in tact.

[kirchow]

I'm not only saying Texas ought be #2 legitimately because I'm from Austin, but because they're a better team than Tech and OU. The schedule they played was, according to ESPN, the hardest in the entire Div. 1 NCAA football and they almost won out by a very close margin.

[FuNkYFreSH]

Personally, I can think of nothing better than Alabama-Texas.

I say Alabama-Oklahoma would be better. Two high powered offenses and two great defenses. POW!

[Fag Boy]

I say Alabama-Oklahoma would be better. Two high powered offenses and two great defenses. POW!

high powered offense? Alabama?

no, not really

[SCMC]

^^ exactly
Alabama in no way has a high powered offense, have they scored more than 30-somthing this year. Seems like every score I've seen it's something like 24-10 or something. Yeah they do have a great D, possibly the best in the nation, but no a high powered O.

[Devastation]

Alabama's offense is far from high-powered. The best thing about them, though, is they've overcome that.

They know how to win close games.

[FuNkYFreSH]

high powered offense? Alabama?

no, not really

I stand corrected.

[Fag Boy]

They remind me of the 02 Ohio State team, best defense in the country, but a very mediocre offense that can just run the ball to run out the clock and keep possession. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends the same way for them too, ohio state went up against was supposed to be basically an NFL offense, that was supposedly "unstoppable". That game pretty much is a perfect example of defense wins championships.

[Liberator13]

Fuck Texas.

This will probably cause me actual physical pain but...


GO SOONERS!


*throws up*

[darkesthorizon]

What i predicted happening, in the last few weeks of the season, I bet OU loses to Okie St, Florida loses to FSU somehow, but drills Bama, and for some reason USC will make the title game. Now, I DON'T want this to happen. But watch something shitty like that will.

[High On PCP]

Wouldn't it be awesome if, some how, it ended up being Oklahoma vs Texas in the National Championship game?



That sounds better than either Florida/Alabama vs Texas/Oklahoma.

[Frood]

Wouldn't it be awesome if, some how, it ended up being Oklahoma vs Texas in the National Championship game?



That sounds better than either Florida/Alabama vs Texas/Oklahoma.

I agree, I totally think that Oklahoma should be listed first.

[SCMC]

I agree, I totally think that Oklahoma should be listed first.

Yeah Oklahoma vs. Texas sounds way better than Texas vs. Oklahoma :lol:
It's the same fucking thing :lol:
But for the purposes of a good game I'm hoping it turns out to be Florida vs. Texas, I just really think that will be a terrific game.

[FuNkYFreSH]

I'm looking forward to notre dame getting their asses handed to them this weeknd by usc. Carroll is going to roll it up for the bcs beauty pagennt. USC rolls 60-7

[sweet]

Anybody hear about the Notre Dame throwing snowballs at their players.
You stay classy South Bend.
Edit: I found to articles about it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3725941&sportCat=ncf
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&page=dash0813&sportCat=ncf

[yungwon95]

YEAH that would be AWESOME lets get a national championship game with two teams that have ALREADY PLAYED this year....good call man good call

FACT: the national championship will be Florida/Alabama Vs. Texas/OU

[SCMC]

YEAH that would be AWESOME lets get a national championship game with two teams that have ALREADY PLAYED this year....good call man good call

FACT: the national championship will be Florida/Alabama Vs. Texas/OU

yeah we've all known that fact since Oklahoma beat Tech dumbass. :dunce:

[yungwon95]

yeah its been obvious that that is gonna be the situation for a while, which is why i dont understand why USC and Texas Tech still think they deserve a shot

[Liberator13]

Wow, had to listen to the Nebraska/Colorado game on the radio at work. What a fucking intense finish, hell yes. That better be replayed sometime soon on TV.

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

yeah its been obvious that that is gonna be the situation for a while, which is why i dont understand why USC and Texas Tech still think they deserve a shot


I am so tired of USC homers and their lobbying. They played a shit schedule, and deserve shit for it. Enjoy Penn State in the Rose Bowl.

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

Wouldn't it be awesome if, some how, it ended up being Oklahoma vs Texas in the National Championship game?






If Alabama loses a close one to Florida, that may very well happen. If FLorida blows them out, or Alabama wins, there's no way.

[Devastation]

No, it won't.

I believe that since the Oklahoma-LSU-USC love triangle of a number of years ago, where Oklahoma played in the title game despite being blown out by K-State in the Big XII championship, it is now a rule that participants in the title game have to win their conference championship.

I could be wrong (although that's unlikely), but I'm pretty sure that happened (it's what stopped a Michigan-Ohio State rematch a couple years ago).

[Liberator13]

I will be absolutely fucking furious of USC gets into the Championship game. I'll be livid.

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

WOOOHOOO OU is #2 in the new BCS and headed to the Big 12 Title game!!!!

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

No, it won't.

I believe that since the Oklahoma-LSU-USC love triangle of a number of years ago, where Oklahoma played in the title game despite being blown out by K-State in the Big XII championship, it is now a rule that participants in the title game have to win their conference championship.

I could be wrong (although that's unlikely), but I'm pretty sure that happened (it's what stopped a Michigan-Ohio State rematch a couple years ago).

I could find no such rule. In fact the Fox guys were just discussing the possibility of the scenario on TV. I think the unlikely has happened.

[Devastation]

Hmmm, maybe they only discussed it.

Either way, the very thought of an Oklahoma-Texas title game disgusts me.

Texas and Oklahoma already played each other, Texas was the winner (on a neutral field).

Conference rivals should never play each other in any bowl game, much less the title game.

Now, Alabama-Oklahoma, that's attractive.

[SCMC]

Hmmm, maybe they only discussed it.

Either way, the very thought of an Oklahoma-Texas title game disgusts me.

Texas and Oklahoma already played each other, Texas was the winner (on a neutral field).

Conference rivals should never play each other in any bowl game, much less the title game.

Now, Alabama-Oklahoma, that's attractive.

Hey though, Oklahoma or Alabama don't exactly have a clear lane to the National Championship game though. Alabama could easily lose to Florida, and Oklahoma could easily lose to Missouri making it a Texas/Florida NC. OR just one of them could lose and it could be Florida/Oklahoma or Texas/Alabama.

[Devastation]

No shit.

That's all.

[Liberator13]

Go Sooners...

fgdogjdfsfkpdgvd

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

Oklahoma could easily lose to Missouri


No, they couldn't. OU motor boated Mizzou twice last year, and they will sodomize them next weekend at Arrowhead, and I'll be on the sidelines for the whole thing! WOOOHOOO!!!! BOOMER SOONER!!!!

[Thirdeye]

Alabama could easily lose to Florida, and Oklahoma could easily lose to Missouri making it a Texas/Florida NC. OR just one of them could lose and it could be Florida/Oklahoma or Texas/Alabama.

I wouldn't say easily. If the sooners lose it would be an upset.

Go Sooners...

fgdogjdfsfkpdgvd

At least you dont have to root for the horns (fags)
They get enough support from those ass clowns at ESPN.

I'll be on the sidelines for the whole thing! WOOOHOOO!!!! BOOMER SOONER!!!!

Me too, and hopefully in miami as well! BOOMER SOONER!!!! MISSOURI SUCKS!!!!

[Liberator13]

At least you dont have to root for the horns (fags)
They get enough support from those ass clowns at ESPN.


I hate the Sooners, but I hate the Horns even more. My good friend is a Texas fan (God only knows why..) and he's so fucking cocky about it.

The ESPN guys are all over Texas' and USC's balls constantly. Herbstreit and Musberger go home and gargle all over Pete Carroll's balls, I swear.

[High On PCP]

Yea I get tired of hearing about USC. Because of ESPN, they've become the most overrated team in the country. I honestly bet they'd struggle against teams like Texas Christian, Brigham Young, Cincinnati...



And I'm tired of everyone swinging off Texas' balls. Listen, Oklahoma had a close game against Texas, and lost. Texas had a close game against Texas Tech, and lost. Oklahoma blew Texas Tech's ass out of the water so hard, you wouldn't have even guessed that Tech was a top 5 team. They got straight embarrassed. Even putting Texas Tech aside, when you compare the teams Oklahoma and Texas have played, Oklahoma has played better. Oklahoma deserves to be ranked ahead of Texas. Sucks for Texas, but they should have performed better.


I'm all for revamping the Big 12 into an east-west thing as opposed to the current north-south, because all the Big 12 Talent is obviously in the south right now. Honestly, I'd say do away with those divisions, and at the end of the regular season, let the 2 best teams play each other even if that means it's 2 south teams that had already played each other.


Or


There's been a lot of talk lately about playoffs, and I think that would be best. At the end of the regular season, take the top 8 teams, regardless of conference/division, and put together a tournament.

[Fag Boy]

Yea I get tired of hearing about USC. Because of ESPN, they've become the most overrated team in the country. I honestly bet they'd struggle against teams like Texas Christian, Brigham Young, Cincinnati...



And I'm tired of everyone swinging off Texas' balls. Listen, Oklahoma had a close game against Texas, and lost. Texas had a close game against Texas Tech, and lost. Oklahoma blew Texas Tech's ass out of the water so hard, you wouldn't have even guessed that Tech was a top 5 team. They got straight embarrassed. Even putting Texas Tech aside, when you compare the teams Oklahoma and Texas have played, Oklahoma has played better. Oklahoma deserves to be ranked ahead of Texas. Sucks for Texas, but they should have performed better.


I'm all for revamping the Big 12 into an east-west thing as opposed to the current north-south, because all the Big 12 Talent is obviously in the south right now. Honestly, I'd say do away with those divisions, and at the end of the regular season, let the 2 best teams play each other even if that means it's 2 south teams that had already played each other.


Or


There's been a lot of talk lately about playoffs, and I think that would be best. At the end of the regular season, take the top 8 teams, regardless of conference/division, and put together a tournament.

lol, stop trying, no matter how you try to cut it, texas beat oklahoma, its is what is, stop trying to rationalize it, because nobody agrees with you.

[High On PCP]

^- So? Texas Tech beat Texas.


If Texas wanted to play in the Big 12 Championship, all they had to do was beat Texas Tech. They didn't.

If Texas Tech wanted to play in Big 12 Championship, all they had to do was beat Oklahoma.

If Oklahoma wanted to play in the Big 12 Championship, all they had to do was beat Texas.



None of those 3 scenarios played out, and at the end of it, Oklahoma is the best performing team.








I'm guessing you were feebly trying to make some point there?





edit- btw, millions of people agreed with Hitler. That didn't make him right, it just meant a lot of people shared his opinion. So, I'm not really bothered that no one agrees with me. I think Oklahoma is the better team, and the BCS rankings agree. That's what matters.



For any sniveling Texas or even Texas Tech fans that feel cheated, the first round is on me-
http://www.manorhg.com/store/images/MT_Toscana_Rec_Tissue.jpg

[Liberator13]

Yea I get tired of hearing about USC. Because of ESPN, they've become the most overrated team in the country. I honestly bet they'd struggle against teams like Texas Christian, Brigham Young, Cincinnati...

They'd be absolutely embarrassed by anybody else in the Top 5 for sure. I can't fucking stand them.

[AsHopeDies]

I think Oklahoma is the better team

You are arguing that Oklahoma is better than a team that beat them by 10 on a neutral site. That is logically fatally flawed. That's why this argument, and the BCS, is bullshit. Texas got jobbed, that's the long and short of it. It's just like Georgia last year. The only argument that you can have is that Oklahoma should have been 2nd instead of Texas. But the fact is, they weren't. And nothing happened last week to warrant a team jumping a team that they lost to. Just like last year, nothing happened to Georgia to warrant them getting jumped. The only argument worth having is that they shouldn't have been ranked second. The argument that they deserved to be jumped is simply wrong, there's no way to logically do it. You proved that by saying Oklahoma is better than a team that beat them...you cannot say that logically, it's a false statement. At best it's based on how they performed against Texas Tech in Oklahoma, which is pretty weak. This is two years in a row now where the BCS has basically hand picked what teams they wanted to play, and it wasn't based in any way on the rankings the week before or the play of that weekend. Oklahoma gave up 41 points to Oklahoma state. How does that cause you to leapfrog a team?

[High On PCP]

Oklahoma gave up 41 points to Oklahoma State, but won by 20 points.

Texas only let Oklahoma State 24... but nearly lost in the process. They only won by 4. I can almost guarantee most head coaches would say they'd rather win w/ a 20 point spread in a high scoring game rather than squeak by w/ a narrow 4 point victory.



Aside from the Texas/Oklahoma game, Oklahoma has obviously been playing better football. Thankfully the BCS rankings take your whole season into account, and not just a single game.



Really, when it comes down to it, the most deserving team is going to the Big 12 Championship.


If you have tunnel vision on the Texas/Oklahoma game, ok I guess, be my guest... but you should look at the bigger picture. Bigger picture = Oklahoma plays better football. It was a 3 way tie after all, I'm not sure why everyone is forgetting the Texas Tech games.

In the end, the most deserving team is going where they should be.


edit- going back to the beginning of the season, Oklahoma played a much stiffer schedule than Texas did, before starting conference games. Oklahoma played Chattanooga(yank yank), Cincinnati (finished season ranked #13), Washington, and Texas Christian(ranked 24 at the time they played, finished season ranked 11). Texas played Florida Atlantic, Texas El Paso, Rice and Arkansas. LOL@ Texas' pre-conference games.

[AsHopeDies]

Oklahoma gave up 41 points to Oklahoma State, but won by 20 points.

Texas only let Oklahoma State 24... but nearly lost in the process. They only won by 4. I can almost guarantee most head coaches would say they'd rather win w/ a 20 point spread in a high scoring game rather than squeak by w/ a narrow 4 point victory.



Aside from the Texas/Oklahoma game, Oklahoma has obviously been playing better football. Thankfully the BCS rankings take your whole season into account, and not just a single game.



Really, when it comes down to it, the most deserving team is going to the Big 12 Championship.


If you have tunnel vision on the Texas/Oklahoma game, ok I guess, be my guest... but you should look at the bigger picture. Bigger picture = Oklahoma plays better football. It was a 3 way tie after all, I'm not sure why everyone is forgetting the Texas Tech games.

In the end, the most deserving team is going where they should be.


edit- going back to the beginning of the season, Oklahoma played a much stiffer schedule than Texas did, before starting conference games. Oklahoma played Chattanooga(yank yank), Cincinnati (finished season ranked #13), Washington, and Texas Christian(ranked 24 at the time they played, finished season ranked 11). Texas played Florida Atlantic, Texas El Paso, Rice and Arkansas. LOL@ Texas' pre-conference games.

Congratulations, you successfully argued why Oklahoma should have been ranked 2nd before Sunday night. Now, can you tell me how they magically jumped Texas after they won in a shootout to an 11th ranked team, giving up a shit ton of points as their defense did all season long?

I'm not arguing that the most deserving team is going to the Big 12 championship game. But let's be honest, there's no reason they should have jumped Texas (there are plenty of reasons they should have already been ahead of Texas) and there's no reason BCS standings should have been the tie-breaker for the Big 12 game. Texas got jobbed, it's that simple.

[High On PCP]

Now, can you tell me how they magically jumped Texas after they won in a shootout to an 11th ranked team, giving up a shit ton of points as their defense did all season long?

I'd have to know more about how the BCS rankings work, but if I had to guess.... And stick with me, cause I'm going out on a long limb here, but it most likey has to do with the fact Texas played and beat a shitty unranked team the same week Oklahoma played a ranked team and beat them more convincingly than Texas did? That type of thing happens quite often really. Happened several times this year, believe it or not.

Also, like I was saying, BCS rankings are done on season as a whole. Texas wasn't going to get much +points for the BCS rankings for beating a shitty team, but a ranked team is worth a decent bit.

[Thirdeye]

there's no reason they should have jumped Texas (there are plenty of reasons they should have already been ahead of Texas) and there's no reason BCS standings should have been the tie-breaker for the Big 12 game. Texas got jobbed, it's that simple.

Before the game last Saturday, Texas' season was basically over. Oklahoma's was not. They were ranked ahead of us because they'd had 11 opponents with A&M to go, opposed to the sooners with 11 opponents and No. 12 OSU to go. They had one more game to play and one more statement to make.

And it pisses me off when Texas fan's keep saying this straight-up win against oklahoma bullshit. Its a three way tie! You can't just forget tech exists. Yea the sooners beat them by 44 points. So either the Sooners crushed a really great tech team, or Texas got beat by a horrible tech team. Either way the tie-breaker is the coaches polls and the BCS computer rankings. Not the way I'd like to win, but it is what it is.

[AO30]

Boomer sooner

ou rolls baby.

Sam bradford heisman

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

Me too, and hopefully in miami as well! BOOMER SOONER!!!! MISSOURI SUCKS!!!!


I can't afford a trip to Miami, but I am 2 hours from KC, and being a member of the FWAA I can get press credentials and get in for free. I'd hit my grandma over the head with a snow shovel to go to Miami to watch them play for a Championship.

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

I have no sympathy for UT fans. Did Texas beat OU? Yep. By ten on basically two big plays, and two of the worst pieces of officiating in the history of college football on an interception and a PI call. Writers don't forget that thank God. Texas caught a huge break in the Red River Shootout.

Then, they are playing Tech, and one lowly freshman can end the game, but he doesn't, and Crabtree punks them for the loss. OU proceeds to bludgeon that same Tech team. OU is playing better now, and to be quite honest, were probably the better team at the Red River Shootout. Losing Ryan Reynolds changed the entire complexion of the defense, and you mix in two horrible calls, and you have a manufactured Texas comeback.

I hope Texas gets to a BCS bowl, and wins big, because that's great for the Big 12, but they have no one to blame for not being in the title game, than themselves. While OU is playing teams like TCU and Cinci 11th and 13th in the BCS in non-conference, Texas is warming up on teams like Florida Atlantic and UTEP. If I am not mistaken, Texas played two games outside of the state all season. That paired with a soft non conference schedule matters to writers and the computers.


http://www.demarco-murray.com/demarco-murray-rrs-2007-7.jpg

[AO30]

^^^ This.

That game was blown on bad calls and Colt's acting.

[Wu-tang]

Three way tie, one of those games is a fluke. Tech lost at OU, Texas lost in Lubbock, but then OU lost in neutral territory. That's the reason why Texas fans think they should be in the title game, not just because of the head-to-head match up.

[High On PCP]

If Texas Tech was heading to the Big 12 Championship, I guarantee you every Texas fan would be thinking the same way Sooners fans are now(as far as season as a whole goes), and would think the "just because they won the heads up match" thing was bullshit.

[AsHopeDies]

Texas Tech got murdered in Oklahoma...that put them out of the discussion. So you narrow it down to Texas vs. Oklahoma. And I don't get how people can laugh at an actual game between the two teams on a neutral site where one team won by double digits, and yet point out other games against other teams that were played on different home fields like that's a more logical argument. To even suggest that's more logical is ignorant. The only argument that makes sense is that Oklahoma should have jumped Texas when they beat Texas Tech so big. But they didn't. Nothing happened last weekend to say that Oklahoma was all of a sudden better than Texas. If there wasn't a tie for the Big 12 South and the tie breaker wasn't the BCS standings...let's be honest, Oklahoma would not have jumped Texas. The BCS is too subjective.

I'm no Texas fan mind you...I just call bullshit when I see it. And they got jobbed.

[High On PCP]

^- The funniest part is... the day before the Oklahoma vs Texas Tech game, people just like you were the ones saying "Texas Tech wins this. At this level, home field advantage means very little."



Personally, I think you need to have your bullshit meter re-calibrated. Seems a bit off.





Goes back to the pre-conference play. Texas played a bunch of powderpuffs while Oklahoma played two teams that finished the season as top 15 teams. I know that these games are scheduled years in advance, so there was no way to know Texas Christian and Cincinnati would end up as good as they did, but still, Oklahoma played better competition.



Somebody was going to end up being pissed, and the most deserving team, the team that plays better football is going to the Big 12 Championship.

Texas didn't get jobbed, they aren't the ones that deserved to go.

All is fair and good.

[AsHopeDies]

^- The funniest part is... the day before the Oklahoma vs Texas Tech game, people just like you were the ones saying "Texas Tech wins this. At this level, home field advantage means very little."

What in the name of all fuck are you talking about? That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've read on these forums in a long time. It's simply idiotic on so many levels. Not only do you not respond to any of the points that I actually made, but you then start labeling me and putting words into my mouth. Why respond to the valid words that I actually typed when you can respond to ignorant words that you put in my mouth?

Personally, I think you need to have your bullshit meter re-calibrated. Seems a bit off.

Wow...this is fucking brilliance. So sorry I ever disagreed with you. Such a profound point cannot be countered.

Goes back to the pre-conference play. Texas played a bunch of powderpuffs while Oklahoma played two teams that finished the season as top 15 teams. I know that these games are scheduled years in advance, so there was no way to know Texas Christian and Cincinnati would end up as good as they did, but still, Oklahoma played better competition.

Again, this is an argument for Oklahoma to be ranked ahead of Texas after the Texas Tech game. And do you know why they weren't ranked ahead of Texas after either Texas Tech game? Oh yeah, because Texas beat them. It's funny that games in the early part of the schedule have a shit load of weight apparently. That is...other than the game where the two teams in question played each other. To say that a game 10 weeks ago where each team played teams with varying degrees of competitiveness is very important, but to then turn around and say that the game where the two teams in question played each other is somehow less important is ignorant.

Somebody was going to end up being pissed, and the most deserving team, the team that plays better football is going to the Big 12 Championship.

What baffles me, is that literally your only reference for saying that Oklahoma plays better football is pointing our each teams' performances against similar opponents while blatantly overlooking the head-to-head match up. It is beyond illogical. To back that up, you have not made any new points. You have said the same thing over and over with nothing to back it up.

Personally I think you need to get your logic calibrated, it seems to be way off.

Texas didn't get jobbed, they aren't the ones that deserved to go.

All is fair and good.

Again...if they weren't the ones who deserved to go, they wouldn't have been ranked 2nd in the country going into last weekend, with Oklahoma ranked below them. They got jobbed, it's actually quite simple.

The reason I'm annoyed is that it's a transparent case of someone subjectively determining who the "better" team is at the moment and adjusting the polls to push the team they want. Just like last year. Just like damn near every year in the BCS era. This is sports, it's not figure skating. Sports are supposed to be determined on the field, not by a judge. The polls were manipulated without logic and without the play on the field backing it up. I wouldn't have a problem if Oklahoma jumped Texas after Texas lost to Tech...or after Oklahoma killed Tech. But to do it now, with what happened last weekend, just wreaks of handpicking bowl games. And to me, that's not sport, that's not pure. It's bullshit.

[AO30]

Oklahoma played the most ranked teams. Cincinnati won the Big East if I'm not mistaken, and TCU is a great team. Texas played Rice.

[Devastation]

Texas played Rice.
What? Texas played the Chinese?

Shit, I take it they won?

That means China don't stand a chance. Prepare Operation Paddy Storm.

[AO30]

What? Texas played the Chinese?

Shit, I take it they won?

That means China don't stand a chance. Prepare Operation Paddy Storm.

They did win. Big.

[Wu-tang]

Oklahoma played the most ranked teams. Cincinnati won the Big East if I'm not mistaken, and TCU is a great team. Texas played Mizzou.
Fixed that.

One more...They played one more ranked team(at the time of the game) than Texas. Great point there. Playing 4 top 11 teams four weeks straight is the definition of powder puff, right?

If Texas Tech was heading to the Big 12 Championship, I guarantee you every Texas fan would be thinking the same way Sooners fans are now(as far as season as a whole goes), and would think the "just because they won the heads up match" thing was bullshit.

Except that Tech won in Lubbock by one possession and a dropped pick, as opposed to where Texas won in neutral territory. Can you not understand that? You keep repeating yourself without getting the point.

Justify a Confence Championship game where both teams lost to an 11-1 team in the conference. Then consider this, if this scenario played out in the ACC or SEC, Texas would've been in the title game.

[AsHopeDies]

Why is my gut telling me that Florida is going to beat Bama big on Saturday? I'm not downplaying what Bama has done...I know they are a great team. But for some reason, I just have a feeling that Florida is going to win big and it's going to be a disappointing game, especially for all the hype. I'm not saying I want that, I'm really excited for the game and look forward to watching it. I think I'm even going to pull for Bama...I just have this feeling.

[High On PCP]

Except that Tech won in Lubbock by one possession and a dropped pick, as opposed to where Texas won in neutral territory. Can you not understand that? You keep repeating yourself without getting the point.

No, I get that. I just think it's funny that so many people say home field advantage doesn't mean dick at the upper level... until it works against them.

[Wu-tang]

Why is my gut telling me that Florida is going to beat Bama big on Saturday? I'm not downplaying what Bama has done...I know they are a great team. But for some reason, I just have a feeling that Florida is going to win big and it's going to be a disappointing game, especially for all the hype. I'm not saying I want that, I'm really excited for the game and look forward to watching it. I think I'm even going to pull for Bama...I just have this feeling.

It's because everyone hates florida, yet they still fucking win. I hate Florida...no reason really, I just always find myself rooting against them.

No, I get that. I just think it's funny that so many people say home field advantage doesn't mean dick at the upper level... until it works against them.

I've never heard anyone say that.

[AsHopeDies]

I've never heard anyone say that.

Neither have I. But saying that people always say that supports his argument...so he acts like it's fact. That appears to be his M.O. for this entire discussion.

[High On PCP]

The days leading up to Texas Tech vs Oklahoma, pretty much every sports analyst was saying "When you have teams this good, there really is no home field advantage. I'm picking Texas Tech to win."


Plus that shit was all over sports forums on the net.




I bet you guys heard the same shit, just purposely forgot about it. Much like how Texas fans seem to have forgotten that they lost to Texas Tech.

[Wu-tang]

The days leading up to Texas Tech vs Oklahoma, pretty much every sports analyst was saying "When you have teams this good, there really is no home field advantage. I'm picking Texas Tech to win."


Plus that shit was all over sports forums on the net.




I bet you guys heard the same shit, just purposely forgot about it. Much like how Texas fans seem to have forgotten that they lost to Texas Tech.

"Home field advantage is especially pronounced in NCAA Division I Football, where teams like LSU, USC, Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Georgia, and many others win consistently at home. Many college football stadiums also have nicknames that represent the loudness of the stadium. Autzen Stadium, home of the Oregon Ducks, has been nicknamed the "Autzen Zoo" because of how loud it gets, and Kyle Field, the home of the Texas A&M Aggies has been nicknamed the "12th Man" because of the loudness there."

From Wiki... No one with a brain ever said that, that's dumb. When two teams are even, oddsmakers favor the hometeam... I wonder why that is. That quotes total horse shit, especially since one of the reasons why Tech was picked to win by so many people against Texas is because...they were in Lubbock.

And no Texas fans forgot that they lost to Tech. Quit bringing up the same dumbshit argument, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Stick to the E/N section, because this might be the dumbest argument I've read on this sports forum.

[High On PCP]

"Home field advantage is especially pronounced in NCAA Division I Football, where teams like LSU, USC, Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Georgia, and many others win consistently at home. Many college football stadiums also have nicknames that represent the loudness of the stadium. Autzen Stadium, home of the Oregon Ducks, has been nicknamed the "Autzen Zoo" because of how loud it gets, and Kyle Field, the home of the Texas A&M Aggies has been nicknamed the "12th Man" because of the loudness there."

From Wiki... No one with a brain ever said that, that's dumb. When two teams are even, oddsmakers favor the hometeam... I wonder why that is. That quotes total horse shit, especially since one of the reasons why Tech was picked to win by so many people against Texas is because...they were in Lubbock.

Again - Wiki is cool and all, but seriously, every sports analyst on the web and on ESPN was picking Texas Tech over Oklahoma and claiming "Home field advantage won't matter here."

They were even saying that right before during the pre-game show and even DURING kickoff.



And no Texas fans forgot that they lost to Tech.

Apparently they have. "We beat Oklahoma, so we deserve to go!" Yea well, if Texas Tech was heading there they wouldn't be using the "but but but, we won, wahhhhh" excuse.



Quit bringing up the same dumbshit argument, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Sounds like we're in the same boat then. :uhoh:

[MC900Ft.Jesus]

No Harvin for Florida on Saturday. That could be big trouble for the gators. Mount Cody is going to plug that middle on the draws and zone reads, so Tebow is going to have to work the edges, and count on Murphy at WR. If Alabama can get Coffey going behind that huge oline, and work Jones in on play action they will have a chance.

[AsHopeDies]

Again - Wiki is cool and all, but seriously, every sports analyst on the web and on ESPN was picking Texas Tech over Oklahoma and claiming "Home field advantage won't matter here."

Every sports analyst on the web and ESPN? How can you make claims like that and take yourself seriously?

[High On PCP]

LOL, dude, I saw what I saw... and that was tons of analysts picking Tech over Oklahoma.


Obviously, I didn't mean EVERY SINGLE fucking analyst. You're like a haiyaaa, just not as clever.

why have several members tried adopting haiyaaa's shtick since his banning? weird phenomena....

[AsHopeDies]

So when you said "seriously"...you didn't mean it did you? Excuse me for reading your words and reacting to them. I'll read your mind next time. Good job on this discussion though, you're presenting staggering amounts of wonderful points and counter-points. You're like every member on these forums...except dumb as fuck.

[High On PCP]

You're like every member on these forums...except dumb as fuck.

pot meet kettle.

[AsHopeDies]

You just admitted to being dumb as fuck...I'm positive that puts us in separate categories.

[High On PCP]

You just admitted to being dumb as fuck...I'm positive that puts us in separate categories.

pot meet kettle.



you really don't seem exceptionally bright there yourself, guy.

[AsHopeDies]

Will you say "pot meet kettle" one more time please?

[Wu-tang]

Again - Wiki is cool and all, but seriously, every sports analyst on the web and on ESPN was picking Texas Tech over Oklahoma and claiming "Home field advantage won't matter here."

They were even saying that right before during the pre-game show and even DURING kickoff.


That's just simply stupid. There's a reason we say homefield advantage. There's a reason why TAMU has the nickname "The 12th Man." There's a reason home teams are favored over away teams... Home field advantage counts. To deny this is stupid, and that's a bullshit argument. Even if some dumb BSPN worker said that, I didn't so don't put words in my mouth. That's a moot point because it's simply not true.


Apparently they have. "We beat Oklahoma, so we deserve to go!" Yea well, if Texas Tech was heading there they wouldn't be using the "but but but, we won, wahhhhh" excuse.
In the ACC and SEC in a 3 way tie, the third team, aka the lowest ranked, gets dropped out of discussion. Then they compare head-to-head with the top two. It's obvious that Tech wasn't on the same level as OU and Texas, so there's no reason that excuse would come out, because it's moot. Tech got dropped from the discussion when they got blown out by OU and then nearly lost to Baylor. You get that? You can not keep on making the same horse crap argument, because it doesn't work.

Sounds like we're in the same boat then. :uhoh:
Nope.

How can you say "I just think it's funny that so many people say home field advantage doesn't mean dick at the upper level... until it works against them," and then use an OU vs. Tech game as an example? When did any Texas fan say that? The only people that said that, going by your words(because obviously everyone knows this is bullshit, but for arguments sake), are the people that thought Tech was going to win. Now please explain to me how degrading homefield advantage for OU works for anyone from Texas.

[KiLLeR07]

LOL, dude, I saw what I saw... and that was tons of analysts picking Tech over Oklahoma.


Obviously, I didn't mean EVERY SINGLE fucking analyst. You're like a haiyaaa, just not as clever.

why have several members tried adopting haiyaaa's shtick since his banning? weird phenomena....

You have no idea what you're talking about. Everybody picked OU to win that game, including Corso on Gameday. I didn't see a single analyst pick Tech. Homefield advantage is a huge factor in the Big 12.

Plus the BCS is all about when you lose. If Tech had lost to OU on the first game then proceeded to have the season they had, they would still be in the top 3, possibly 1st. Same with Texas. The only advantage OU has is that they lost the earliest in the season and had time to work their way back up in the rankings via "style points", which is a bunch of shit, because in the end, Texas STILL beat them head to head.

[High On PCP]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Everybody picked OU to win that game, including Corso on Gameday. I didn't see a single analyst pick Tech. Homefield advantage is a huge factor in the Big 12.

Plus the BCS is all about when you lose. If Tech had lost to OU on the first game then proceeded to have the season they had, they would still be in the top 3, possibly 1st. Same with Texas. The only advantage OU has is that they lost the earliest in the season and had time to work their way back up in the rankings via "style points", which is a bunch of shit, because in the end, Texas STILL beat them head to head.

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dude we can argue all day but all I really have to say at this point is my team is heading to the Big 12 Championship, and most likely onto the National Championship game, and your team is basically stuck sucking Sooner dick.

[SCMC]

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dude we can argue all day but all I really have to say at this point is my team is heading to the Big 12 Championship, and most likely onto the National Championship game, and your team is basically stuck sucking Sooner dick.

You know sooner means cheater right?
I guess the name fits.....
No i'm not a longhorn fan I'm a baylor fan since I'm going there next fall but I think the longhorns deserve it more.

[High On PCP]

^- that's funny.... with all the shitty referee calls that have plagued the Sooners for the past several years, you'd figure Sooner meant "to be cheated".

Now THAT would be fitting!






BTW- I only skimmed, but please tell me which paragraph uses the word cheater to describe what Sooner/s means..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sooners

[SCMC]

The term Sooners was used to describe settlers who entered the Unassigned Lands, located in the current state of Oklahoma, before President Grover Cleveland officially proclaimed them open to settlement with the Indian Appropriations Act of 1889 on March 2, 1889. The name derived from the "sooner clause" of the Indian Appropriation Act, which stated that no one should be allowed to enter and occupy the land prior to the opening time and that such people would be denied rights to illegally claimed land
It means they went to claim their land before they were allowed to dumbshit, aka cheater.

[Wu-tang]

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dude we can argue all day but all I really have to say at this point is my team is heading to the Big 12 Championship, and most likely onto the National Championship game, and your team is basically stuck sucking Sooner dick.


No, we're arguing, but you're spewing out garbage. It doesn't matter if they get to the Championship because it'll be tainted by the sham the BCS is.

[High On PCP]

No, we're arguing, but you're spewing out garbage. It doesn't matter if they get to the Championship because it'll be tainted by the sham the BCS is.

yawn......

lol, you again?

[AsHopeDies]

Ok ok ok...we don't agree, woopity doo. But I was thinking about something in the car yesterday listening to sports talk radio. How would you guys, especially you PCP, feel if the Big 12 just said, out of the blue, "You know what...fuck it. Texas vs. Oklahoma for the Big 12 title."?

Sure, it goes against the division setup of the Big 12. But they handled their tie breaker differently than other conferences, why stop there? The argument from OU fans seems to be, "the better team right now is playing the game." Well, again, why stop there? Why not have the best two teams right now play the game? Why bother having a team with 3 loses in there? They hand picked one team, why not hand pick two?

[High On PCP]

Ok ok ok...we don't agree, woopity doo. But I was thinking about something in the car yesterday listening to sports talk radio. How would you guys, especially you PCP, feel if the Big 12 just said, out of the blue, "You know what...fuck it. Texas vs. Oklahoma for the Big 12 title."?

Sure, it goes against the division setup of the Big 12. But they handled their tie breaker differently than other conferences, why stop there? The argument from OU fans seems to be, "the better team right now is playing the game." Well, again, why stop there? Why not have the best two teams right now play the game? Why bother having a team with 3 loses in there? They hand picked one team, why not hand pick two?

How would I feel about an Oklahoma/Texas rematch for the Big 12 championship?


I'd feel like I was getting an early Christmas. Would love to see them play again at this point.

[AsHopeDies]

Well at least we agree on something. I get with such a big conference there is a need for two divisions...but it just doesn't work.

[SCMC]

Well at least we agree on something. I get with such a big conference there is a need for two divisions...but it just doesn't work.

Yes I think they need to split up the teams more or just join them together like the big 10 or pac-ten and just have the top two teams play against each other. If we have to weed some teams out I vote Iowa State first. :) Also we should let go of some other crappy teams, mostly in the North.
New big 12 concept:
1.texas
2.oklahoma
3.texas tech
4.oklahoma state
5.baylor
6.texas a&m
7.missouri
8.colorado
9.nebraska
10. tcu

Let go of the kansas teams and iowa state, putting in tcu since I think they deserve so be in a major conference, and play like the big 10. Have nine conference games throughout the year and three non-conference, along with a championship game with the top two.
I know it's a crappy concept but it would have been nice this year at least. :)

[KiLLeR07]

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dude we can argue all day but all I really have to say at this point is my team is heading to the Big 12 Championship, and most likely onto the National Championship game, and your team is basically stuck sucking Sooner dick.

I'm not even a Texas fan. Just another college football fan that knows when a team is cheated.

Whatever, it's OK. This system will be out soon enough.

[AsHopeDies]

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dude we can argue all day but all I really have to say at this point is my team is heading to the Big 12 Championship, and most likely onto the National Championship game, and your team is basically stuck sucking Sooner dick.

Not to beat a dead horse...but you lost all credibility in the argument when you said "my team". Most of us you are arguing with don't have a dog in the fight. You claim we are being emotional when we have no alliance, and you obviously do.

[High On PCP]

Not to beat a dead horse...but you lost all credibility in the argument when you said "my team". Most of us you are arguing with don't have a dog in the fight. You claim we are being emotional when we have no alliance, and you obviously do.

all that shows is you can not have an emotional alliance, and still be wrong, lol. haha jokes, i really don't care anymore dude. the sooners are a day away from heading to the national championship.

[SCMC]

all that shows is you can not have an emotional alliance, and still be wrong, lol. haha jokes, i really don't care anymore dude. the sooners are a day away from heading to the national championship.

Man if they lose to missouri I will literally be laughing my ass off. :lmao:

[High On PCP]

Man if they lose to missouri I will literally be laughing my ass off. :lmao:

LOL- I'd go into hiding if they lost to Missouri.


They've blown it before when they shouldn't have... but I dunno, they are pumping on all cylinders right now.

[SCMC]

LOL- I'd go into hiding if they lost to Missouri.


They've blown it before when they shouldn't have... but I dunno, they are pumping on all cylinders right now.

They were also doing that before they got completely blown out by K state. And yeah there is like a 98% they'll win but it's still a shot in the dark, I hope they lose because texas deserves to go imo. and no I'm not a texas fan even though I'm in texas, I'm a baylor fan, cause that's where I'm going next year.

[AsHopeDies]

Regardless, they'll lose to Florida in the BCS title game ;)

[High On PCP]

We'll see....

[SCMC]

Regardless, they'll lose to Florida in the BCS title game ;)

IDK man I just can't decide who to pick between Alabama-Florida. I know that Florida can score an amount that Alabama can't match and if someone put a gun to my head I would blurt out Florida like 1% more than Alabama but still, it should be a great match.

[High On PCP]

Lol, Ball State turned down Boise State bowl game. Dude calls them a bunch of pussies pretty much, lol-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-ballst120408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[AsHopeDies]

IDK man I just can't decide who to pick between Alabama-Florida. I know that Florida can score an amount that Alabama can't match and if someone put a gun to my head I would blurt out Florida like 1% more than Alabama but still, it should be a great match.

The men in Vegas are a smart bunch. I'm pulling for Bama, but I'm thinking Florida wins big.

[DodgeDurango]

The men in Vegas are a smart bunch. I'm pulling for Bama, but I'm thinking Florida wins big.

Kickoff is about to begin. ROOLLLLL TIDE,


I hope we win :ahhh::ahhh::ahhh:

[Azwethinkweizm]

They were also doing that before they got completely blown out by K state. And yeah there is like a 98% they'll win but it's still a shot in the dark, I hope they lose because texas deserves to go imo. and no I'm not a texas fan even though I'm in texas, I'm a baylor fan, cause that's where I'm going next year.

Please don't go to Baylor unless you are pre-med, you'll be wasting a lot of money.




UPSET! Florida beats Alabama! Hopefully this is enough to put Texas into the National Title Game.

[SCMC]

UPSET! Florida beats Alabama! Hopefully this is enough to put Texas into the National Title Game.

no the only way texas is going into the NC is if Oklahoma loses which is a possibility but a small one at that.

EDIT: Wow oklahoma better get a TD quick because missouri has underachieved this year but if you let them stick around they might shock em. Although I do think Texas should be playing this game instead of OU.

[Liberator13]

Lol, Mizzou.

Go Sooners!

[SportsFan81]

Florida vs. Oklahoma Title game it looks like.

[SCMC]

Florida vs. Oklahoma Title game it looks like.

Yep, should be good too. Gotta feel bad for Texas though, who will they face, anyone know?
What really sucks for texas and the BCS is that if they went on their streak of beating OU,Missou and OSU at the very end of the season, like the last three games after losing to Tech, then they woould be in the championship, which is why the BCS is so fucked up. When you lost actually matters and it shouldn't, it should matter who the opponent was and how bad, not if it happened in week 3 or week 11.

[Sketcher]

How the FUCK does Pat White get tackled out of bounds and the refs don't call it?

[yungwon95]

damn sucks that alabama lost....that being said, you cant beat a team when they dont make any mistakes

[SportsFan81]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3444571

Texas gets to play Ohio St.

[milkyjoe]

if u support a college football playoff, head to http://www.barackobamabowl.com to sign the petition.

[kirchow]

I am now a Gators fan.

And why isn't Texas playing a reputable team such as Alabama or USC?

[AO30]

I am now a Gators fan.

And why isn't Texas playing a reputable team such as Alabama or USC?

Because they didn't win their conference.

[kirchow]

Because they didn't win their conference.

neither did alabama

[SCMC]

neither did alabama

True, but alabama plays Utah. I think they should have put Utah and Ohio State together while making it Texas and Alabama for the other.

[ftbllplr]

Quick question, why the fuck is Notre Dame in a bowl? The total wins and losses of all the teams they beat is 22-51, a 30% win percentage. Without the 8 win attributed to Navy the opponents they beat are 14-46, a 23% win percent.

[Mysterio]

Quick question, why the fuck is Notre Dame in a bowl? The total wins and losses of all the teams they beat is 22-51, a 30% win percentage. Without the 8 win attributed to Navy the opponents they beat are 14-46, a 23% win percent.

Pretty much every team gets in a bowl there is too many to count. College football is really hard to explain on the internet let alone in person

[Suspiria]

Pretty much every team gets in a bowl there is too many to count. College football is really hard to explain on the internet let alone in person

nah its purely because notre dame is so goddamn popular so the bowlmaker people know for sure itll get both people coming to the game and people watching it on tv.

plenty of bowl eligible teams that have been better than notre dame have been snubbed bowl bids in the past.

[1iNcHWoNDeR]

The canes are gonna whoop California's ass tonight baby!

[FuNkYFreSH]

The canes are gonna whoop California's ass tonight baby!

it would have happened if Marve played. Marve quit today and has to sit out all of 2009.

[Liberator13]

The canes are gonna whoop California's ass tonight baby!

Yep, good call.

[Edgecrusher]

Yep, good call.

hahahahaha

:lmao:

[SportsFan81]

Damn PSU. Penalties and Turnovers killed us

[Nick is cool]

USC can play.. i would love to see them against the winner of oklahoma/flordia like 3 weeks from now. That would make college more entertaining than the NFL IMO, playoffs.

[Liberator13]

Yay Huskers!

[Liberator13]

Holy shit, who else is watching Kentucky-Eastern Carolina? Crazy fucking events at the end. Games still on.

19-19, Kentucky forces the QB to fumble, lineman runs it back for a TD. Official review, they rule the QB was down. Next play, first down. Next play, forced fumble on the RB, linemen runs it back. His knee may have been down, but it was hard to see when he got possession. On the run back, he performed one of the best stiff arms I have ever seen on the QB. Smack right in the facemask, didn't grab it, the QB's mouth guard went flying, and he dropped. Extra point is BLOCKED, so it's a 25-19 game. On the kickoff, the returner ran it back to about his own 33, but they reviewed the play, and when he caught the ball at the 1/2 yard line, his knee was down. Eastern Carolina is just about to punt from their own 12 with 2:44 left.

[Degenerate]

SEC is overrated garbage...

bama sucks balls and the big 12 is just as overrated. Big 12 losing to Oregon scrubs and Tech losing to a bad Ole Miss team?

Probably the worst national championship game in decades.

[Liberator13]

Ole Miss is far from "bad".

What conference is the best in your opinion?

[High On PCP]

Ole Miss is far from "bad".

What conference is the best in your opinion?

Judging from his location, I'd bet I can guess....

[Liberator13]

Judging from his location, I'd bet I can guess....

I'll laugh so fucking hard if he says Pac-10. I was anticipating that, and the laughter is just waiting to come out.

[SportsFan81]

looks like Tebow, Mccoy AND bradford are coming back. Should be interesting

[High On PCP]

Bradford is coming back?


Could've sworn during the national championship game I heard the announcers say he was going to the NFL draft.

[SportsFan81]

Expected to come back.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3832957

[Vincenzo]

Dirty Sanchez is going pro. With Bradford coming back he'll likely be the second or third QB taken in the draft.

[Vincenzo]

BTW....

Goooooooooooo Gators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FuNkYFreSH]

looks like Tebow, Mccoy AND bradford are coming back. Should be interesting

That's great for college football and more importantly big bucks for sports television and the ncaa.

[Azwethinkweizm]

Fuck Pete Carroll.

I've had it with people like him who are so fucking worthless as people. Mark Sanchez and him so a conference and Sanchez is so happy and excited and Carroll says "Oh, you know he's not ready. I'm disappointed in him" and doesn't even shake his hand.

Fuck! He's nothing but an asshole who wants what's best for him and doesn't really care about his players and their possible success.

[SCMC]

Fuck Pete Carroll.

I've had it with people like him who are so fucking worthless as people. Mark Sanchez and him so a conference and Sanchez is so happy and excited and Carroll says "Oh, you know he's not ready. I'm disappointed in him" and doesn't even shake his hand.

Fuck! He's nothing but an asshole who wants what's best for him and doesn't really care about his players and their possible success.

Yeah, I heard about him being an asshole like that. I didn't really care about Sanchez before but now I hope he goes to the NFL and has instant success so Carroll looks like even more of an asshole.

[Azwethinkweizm]

Yeah, I heard about him being an asshole like that. I didn't really care about Sanchez before but now I hope he goes to the NFL and has instant success so Carroll looks like even more of an asshole.

I mean, that makes me so upset. He probably hurt his draft rank now and if I was Mark Sanchez I would be livid with him right now.

I would have told him "Thank you for time I've had with USC but it's time for me to part my ways. Goodbye coach." and not let him speak at the conference.

[SCMC]

I mean, that makes me so upset. He probably hurt his draft rank now and if I was Mark Sanchez I would be livid with him right now.

I would have told him "Thank you for time I've had with USC but it's time for me to part my ways. Goodbye coach." and not let him speak at the conference.


Well with a good combine or a good workout he can prove he's worthy or a top choice all on his own, he doesn't have to let his coach be an asshole and make him a second day draft pick.