The Official NHL 2008/2009 Thread

[Marcos2990]

with training camp coming and as well as preseason might start the new season thread off.

lets make predictions on how the season will unfold.

Eastern Conference
Northeast Division
1.Montreal 45-25-12 102pts
2.Boston 43-28-11 97pts
3.Ottawa 43-29-10 96pts
4.Buffalo 40-33-9 89pts
5.Toronto 33-42-7 73pts

Atlantic Division
1.Pittsburgh 45-22-15 105pts
2.NY Rangers 44-25-13 101pts
3.Philadelphia 42-33-7 91pts
4.New Jersey 41-35-6 88pts
5.NY Islanders 30-45-7 67pts

Sotheast Division
1.Washington 43-33-6 92pts
2.Carolina 42-34-6 90pts
3.Tampa Bay 40-35-7 87pts
4.Atlanta 34-40-8 76pts
5.Florida 32-45-5 69pts

Western Conference
Central Division
1.Detroit 50-22-10 110pts
2.Chicago 44-30-8 96pts
3.St.Louis 40-36-6 86pts
4.Columbus 38-38-6 82pts
5.Nashville 33-44-5 71pts

Pacific Division
1.San Jose 47-23-12 106pts
2.Dallas 45-29-8 98pts
3.Anaheim 44-28-10 98pts
4.Phoenix 42-36-4 88pts
5.Los Angeles 33-46-3 69pts

Northwest
1.Calgary 44-29-9 97pts
2.Minnesota 43-30-9 95pts
3.Edmonton 43-34-5 91pts
4.Colorado 39-34-9 87pts
5.Vancouver 38-35-9 85pts

Playoffs
Pittsburgh over Carolina in 5
Montreal over Philadelphia in 7
Ottawa over Washington in 6
NY Rangers over Boston in 7

Detroit over Edmonton in 5
San Jose over Minnesota in 7
Calgary over Chicago in 7
Dallas over Anahiem in 6

Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 6
NY Rangers over Montreal in 7

Detroit over Dallas in 6
San Jose over Calgary in 5

NY Rangers over Pittsburgh in 7
San Jose over Detroit in 7

Final
San Jose over NY Rangers in 5

I maybe totally wrong but this is my take on the season

[Shymega]

Eastern Conference
Northeast Division
1. Montreal
2. Buffalo
3. Ottawa
4. Boston
5. Toronto

Atlantic Division
1. Philadelphia
2. New Jersey
3. Pittsburgh
4. NY Rangers
5. NY Islanders

Sotheast Division
1. Carolina
2. Washington
3. Tampa Bay
4. Florida
5. Atlanta

Western Conference
Central Division
1. Detroit
2. Chicago
3. Columbus
4. Nashville
5. St. Louis

Pacific Division
1. San Jose
2. Dallas
3. Phoenix
4. Anaheim
5. LA

Northwest
1. Vancouver
2. Calgary
3. Edmonton
4. Minnesota
5. Colorado

[Liberator13]

Detroit will repeat.

That's all I have to say.

/completely, utterly biased.

[KicktheBaby]

Just my predictions on playoff teams

East
1. Pittsburgh Penguins
2. Ottawa Senators
3. Washington Capitals
4. Philadelphia Flyers
5. Tampa Bay Lightning
6. Montreal Canadiens
7. New York Rangers
8. New Jersey Devils

West
1. Detroit Red Wings (no shit huh)
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Calgary Flames
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Dallas Stars
6. Chicago Black Hawks
7. Edmonton Oilers
8. Columbus Blue Jackets

[Masterbasser412]

1. Pittsburgh
2. Montreal
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. New Jersey
6. Carolina
7. NYR
8. Boston

1. Detroit
2. San Jose
3. Calgary
4. Dallas
5. Anaheim
6. Minnesota
7. Chicago
8. Edmonton

[Shymega]

No offense to Pittsburgh, but why is everyone overrating them? They lost Ryan Malone, Marian Hossa, Gary Roberts, Georges Laraque and Ryan Whitney who is out the whole season. Not to mention who they lost at the deadline last season for Hossa.

[YankeesSuck]

I am pumped for this Bruins season. They will have a great year. I almost want to pick them for the division. But Montreal is still better for now. Fuck that hurts to say haha.

Eastern Conference

1. Washington
2. Philadelphia
3. Montreal sucks
4. Boston
5. NY Rangers
6. Pittsburgh
7. Ottawa
8. NJ Devils

Western Conference

1. Detroit
2. San Jose
3. Calgary
4. Anaheim
5. Dallas
6. Minnesota
7. Nashville
8. Edmonton

Thats all I'll do for now. Tough to pick the playoffs.

[Mr Larkin]

detroit can slob all over my black and gold knob.
montreal cant come anywhere near my knob because who knows where that whore has been.

[Masterbasser412]

No offense to Pittsburgh, but why is everyone overrating them? They lost Ryan Malone, Marian Hossa, Gary Roberts, Georges Laraque and Ryan Whitney who is out the whole season. Not to mention who they lost at the deadline last season for Hossa.

If you compare the start of the 07/08 season to right now, the Penguins are likely the same, or maybe better. We lose Malone, Roberts, Laraque, Ruutu, Christensen, Armstrong (others maybe?) but add Fedotenko, Satan, Cooke, Pesonen, Goddard, Dupuis. That's a pretty fair trade off. Hossa had little to no affect in the Penguins finishing 2nd in the regular season, he played something like the final 8 games of the season, and by that time I think most were expecting the Pens to win the division anyway.

Then you figure the core players like Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Fleury would have only benefited from all the experience last year, and will improve this year. Injuries are a part of any team's season, but it's hard to imagine the Penguins have tougher injuries this year than last year. Crosby was out for half the season, Fleury out, Talbot out, Roberts out, Eaton out, Gonchar briefly (others maybe)?

The Whitney injury (I heard about 3-5 months, is it full season now?) will hurt, but the Penguins have a lot of capable replacements in Eaton/Scuderi/Goligoski/Sydor. I don't see
any reason why the Penguins would perform worse than they did last year, I'd expect about the same number of points.

[Glycerine0160]

I don't understand.

Every year, everyone underrates the new jersey devils. If last year our asses got 2nd in the division and almost had 1st with a garbage defense and a new coach, you have to be shitting yourself if you think we won't grab 1st or 2nd again.

Same thing every year. I think it does it justice. Gives us the under dog effect. On second thought, keep going.

[Shymega]

If you compare the start of the 07/08 season to right now, the Penguins are likely the same, or maybe better. We lose Malone, Roberts, Laraque, Ruutu, Christensen, Armstrong (others maybe?) but add Fedotenko, Satan, Cooke, Pesonen, Goddard, Dupuis. That's a pretty fair trade off. Hossa had little to no affect in the Penguins finishing 2nd in the regular season, he played something like the final 8 games of the season, and by that time I think most were expecting the Pens to win the division anyway.

Then you figure the core players like Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Fleury would have only benefited from all the experience last year, and will improve this year. Injuries are a part of any team's season, but it's hard to imagine the Penguins have tougher injuries this year than last year. Crosby was out for half the season, Fleury out, Talbot out, Roberts out, Eaton out, Gonchar briefly (others maybe)?

The Whitney injury (I heard about 3-5 months, is it full season now?) will hurt, but the Penguins have a lot of capable replacements in Eaton/Scuderi/Goligoski/Sydor. I don't see
any reason why the Penguins would perform worse than they did last year, I'd expect about the same number of points.

I don't know man, I'd rather have Malone, Roberts, Armstrong and those guys then Fedotenko, Satan and them. I'm in NY and see the Isles play a lot and Satan and Fedotenko just sucked so much last year. Maybe Crosby and Malkin can turn them into something they are not
:confuzed: Pens will still make the playoffs, but I don't see them any threat to Philly or NJ.

[Marcos2990]

well the McCabe trade will be going through tomorrow with Van Ryn coming the other way. Just good to see that he waived his no-trade clause,seeing as how he was the scapegoat for the how badly Toronto played.

McCabe to Panthers (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=248234&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main)

[Ado]

Less then three weeks until pre-season games!

MTL - DET sept. 24th!

It won't be easy since the habs will have 3 back to back games with detroit being the third team. Meanwhile, detroit will start its pre-season.

[atreyu_2020]

I don't know man, I'd rather have Malone, Roberts, Armstrong and those guys then Fedotenko, Satan and them. I'm in NY and see the Isles play a lot and Satan and Fedotenko just sucked so much last year. Maybe Crosby and Malkin can turn them into something they are not
:confuzed: Pens will still make the playoffs, but I don't see them any threat to Philly or NJ.

They did it with Malone, and Satan is a better goal scorer and puck handler then Malone could ever dream of being. C'mon man, I thought better of you, you're nitpicking. Laraque? Armstrong? Roberts? I'm surprised you didn't add Adam Hall to the list of wonders that departed from Pittsburgh. Aside from locker room morale all of those guys can easily be replaced.

Malone played a contract year. Trust me, he's caused much more pain and heartache to Pittsburgh then hope and potential. Let's be fair, he spent his Pittsburgh career playing alongside the likes of 2 of the best players in the league, of course he's going to get goals. Hell I can't even count how many goals he had that should have been Crosbys/Malkins because he barely got a stick on the puck that was already going in anyway. There's no denying he's a work horse by the net and takes a beating, but we have players that can do that too.

As for Hossa, we we're a great team before he came, of course we were better with him, but without him we were still a great team.

I sincerely hope you're joking when saying Gary Roberts was a notable loss. You do realize he was hurt for most of the season last year and is nothing more then an enforcer with enough skills to play on the 3rd line. You can find "Gary Roberts" calibure players anywhere, same with Armstrong who is nothing more then a 3rd line grinder, again, you can find these players anywhere.

I was actually relieved to hear the injury report for Ryan Whitney, seriously, I was. If you've seen enough Penguin hockey, which I don't think you have considering you think these minor players are key losses, but Whitney was one of the poorer defensemen on the team last season. People consider him an offensive defenseman, why? Because he uses that same one timer on the PP that Crosby sets him up and finds him wide open? His defensive skills are shit, doesn't hit, and quite frankly is pussified. He reminds me of Joe Melichar, only better puck handler and slightly better defense. Simply put, he's not an intelligent player. Besides, we have enough offensive defensemen, Gonchar, Goligoski, Letang. I'd take Eaton in the line-up over Whitney ANY day. I think some people forget the fact that Marc Eaton missed the entire season last year and he's probably our best defensive defenseman. Having him back will do the D wonders.

The only 2 important losses to the Pens are Hossa and Conks, but it's not enough to not consider them legit contenders for the Atlantic Division and Eastern conference in general. And like I said before, the Pens did wonders without Hossa, although yeah, I still wish we had him, but what can you do?

[KicktheBaby]

1. Pittsburgh
2. Montreal
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. New Jersey
6. Carolina
7. NYR
8. Boston


No Senators in the playoffs are you serious? I think a couple people are in for a surprise; but we'll see. I'd put money on Ottawa over Montreal to win the North East for sure.. but maybe I'm just biased.

I don't know about other sens fans but I like the changes made so far this off-season. Lost Commodore, Stillman, Redden, and Meszaros got J. Smith, Ruutu, Picard, Kuba, Auld, and a first round pick. It may seem like they lost a lot but anyone watching their games last year knew Redden slipped to the #6 Defense Position, Commodore drew more penalties than he was worth, and after a good first season Meszaros' really hasn't played that well, especially defensively, losing his spot on the PK to Schubert (who plays forward half the time). I did like Stillman though, but keeping him wasn't really an option. I feel the players brought in make the team more balanced and with time to heal up all the injuries from last year I think the Sens should be back near the top of the Eastern Conference like they have been the last 10 years.

[navid]

flyers are going to eat the east.

[Shymega]

They did it with Malone, and Satan is a better goal scorer and puck handler then Malone could ever dream of being. C'mon man, I thought better of you, you're nitpicking. Laraque? Armstrong? Roberts? I'm surprised you didn't add Adam Hall to the list of wonders that departed from Pittsburgh. Aside from locker room morale all of those guys can easily be replaced.

Malone played a contract year. Trust me, he's caused much more pain and heartache to Pittsburgh then hope and potential. Let's be fair, he spent his Pittsburgh career playing alongside the likes of 2 of the best players in the league, of course he's going to get goals. Hell I can't even count how many goals he had that should have been Crosbys/Malkins because he barely got a stick on the puck that was already going in anyway. There's no denying he's a work horse by the net and takes a beating, but we have players that can do that too.

As for Hossa, we we're a great team before he came, of course we were better with him, but without him we were still a great team.

I sincerely hope you're joking when saying Gary Roberts was a notable loss. You do realize he was hurt for most of the season last year and is nothing more then an enforcer with enough skills to play on the 3rd line. You can find "Gary Roberts" calibure players anywhere, same with Armstrong who is nothing more then a 3rd line grinder, again, you can find these players anywhere.

I was actually relieved to hear the injury report for Ryan Whitney, seriously, I was. If you've seen enough Penguin hockey, which I don't think you have considering you think these minor players are key losses, but Whitney was one of the poorer defensemen on the team last season. People consider him an offensive defenseman, why? Because he uses that same one timer on the PP that Crosby sets him up and finds him wide open? His defensive skills are shit, doesn't hit, and quite frankly is pussified. He reminds me of Joe Melichar, only better puck handler and slightly better defense. Simply put, he's not an intelligent player. Besides, we have enough offensive defensemen, Gonchar, Goligoski, Letang. I'd take Eaton in the line-up over Whitney ANY day. I think some people forget the fact that Marc Eaton missed the entire season last year and he's probably our best defensive defenseman. Having him back will do the D wonders.

The only 2 important losses to the Pens are Hossa and Conks, but it's not enough to not consider them legit contenders for the Atlantic Division and Eastern conference in general. And like I said before, the Pens did wonders without Hossa, although yeah, I still wish we had him, but what can you do?

Malone, Armstrong, Roberts, Laraque, whitney ect.. are all leaders who play with grit. You can find those type of players production wise anywhere(for the most part), but you can't find those type of character players with leadership around the corner. Satan is a better goal scorer then Malone, but Satan is such a pussy that his skill becomes limited. Fedotenko is no more then a Christensen on a good day. Pens lost depth, leadership and the defense is looking shaky.

If you honestly think the Pens will be another top team then I question your hockey knowledge. We'll see.

[atreyu_2020]

You question the minds of many then because the Pens are still top contenders, despite your nitpicking and your reasoning that since these players "play with grit" they are bad losses. You can go the "anti-trendy picking the Pens so I know more" road but the fact is when you have the talent the Pens have they're still going to contend for a division and perhaps conference title. Am I saying they'll win the division? No, but will they contend and possibly make a great playoff run? Without question they can. The players you mentioned that we lost will not affect that. The only one is Hossa. Seriously, it's like your talking out of your ass with the crap about "leadership". Gary Roberts didn't play much man, Laraque isn't a leader by any means. What words of wisdom does he have to say to get the team fired up? "4th line enforcers are so hard to come by these days, you're lucky to have a player like that". You act as if we have absolute no leadership at all. Crosby, Talbot, Gonchar, Gil are good enough leaders and I'm sure will guide the team more then someone like fucking Laraque, Roberts, and Whitney would do. Seriously, you have nothing to draw from why Whitney and Laraque would be a valuable "leader", especially Whitney, jesus christ.

Dude we picked up Roberts and Laraque when we were a great team without them, we got rid of Armstrong and were a great team after his departure. Satan may be pussified sometimes but he doesn't make stupid decisions with a puck. Oh, and also, Satan and Fedotenko are actually playing on a team with talent, that'll make the difference with what they did with the Islanders. Am I saying they'll peak in Pittsburgh? Who knows, but chances are playing with Malkin and Crosby the odds look pretty good.

I question your hockey knowledge by saying Whitney "plays with grit", you clearly don't watch enough Pittsburgh hockey to make that assessment. If you went on the Pens message board this past season you'll know how many fans wanted Whitney gone and questioned his abilities, because he sucked shit. Trust me, you're not seeing anything different then what thousands of Pens fans saw throughout last years entire season. Defense looks shaky? How so? Because they played a bad series against Detroit? I'm sorry but with the defensive players we have and the loss of Whitney does not make the defense shaky.

As far as depth, well, take it from someone that actually watches Pens hockey, other then the playoffs. You speak of depth with guys like Colby Armstrong, Gary Roberts. There was a time in the season where Colby Armstrong was SCRATCHED because he played like utter shit, and when he did come back it was only to be on the 4th line and grind out on the PK. The guys they brought up to replace him played just as well if not better. As for Gary Roberts, had injuries as well, we brought up kids to fill his position and they gave as much heart and put up equally amount of points Roberts would have had, only subtract about 10 years. The guys you mentioned above had little to no impact on why the Pens had such a great season simply because we had depth to fill those roles when those players played like shit/were injured. Seriously man, when you start calling guys like Laraque and Ryan Whitney "leaders" you know you're fishing for bullshit. With Eaton coming back, we have quite enough depth at D.

No one thought losing Armstrong, Whitney, and having Roberts not playing was an issue before, and it wasn't, not by any means. There's no reason why it would change unless of course people are fishing for reasons why the "beloved" Pens won't be contenders.

Honestly though, if there was anyone on this site that would doubt the Pens whom would have a solid argument would be you. Unfortunately your reasoning is fishing with the whole leadership thing. People just love jumpin on that hatewagon that's been growing more and more, especially when the Pens were dismantling everyone in front of them, except Detroit.

[Shymega]

I'm nitpicking because you lost Hossa, Malone, Armstrong, Christensen, Roberts, Laraque and replaced them with freaking Satan, Matt Cooke and Fedotenko? Come on man. Laraque is a huge leader, just ask the Oilers fans or any hockey fan. Whitney plays with grit, but he's not a bruiser, I think you may be confusing the two.

Look at the projected lineup

(LW/RW) Miroslav Satan (C) Sidney Crosby (RW) Petr Sykora
(LW) Ruslan Fedotenko (C) Evgeni Malkin (RW) Pascal Dupuis
(LW/C) Maxime Talbot (C) Jordan Staal (RW/C) Tyler Kennedy
(LW) Matt Cooke (C) Kris Beech (RW) Eric Goddard

(D) Sergei Gonchar (D) Ryan Whitney (out 3-5 months)
(D) Hal Gill (D) Kris Letang
(D) Darryl Sydor (D) Brooks Orpik

(G) Marc-Andre Fleury
(G) Dany Sabourin

You have Pascal Dupuis and Ruslan Fedotenko on your 2nd line wingers.

You may not want to admit it, but the Pens have become the TB Lightning of old from the north. A top heavy team with no farm system (because you got rid of it all for Hossa)

[Shymega]

Here's the Flyers..Now this is a team

(LW) Simon Gagne (C) Daniel Briere (RW) Mike Knuble
(LW) Scott Hartnell (C) Mike Richards (RW) Joffrey Lupul
(R/WLW) Scottie Upshall (C) Jeff Carter (RW) Steve Downie
(LW) Riley Cote (C) Glen Metropolit (RW) Arron Asham

(D) Kimmo Timonen (D) Braydon Coburn
(D) Derian Hatcher (D) Randy Jones
(D) Ryan Parent (D) Steve Eminger

(G) Martin Biron
(G) Antero Niitymaki

[atreyu_2020]

And again, Malone, Armstrong, Christensen, Roberts, Laraque (all laughable) are not drastic losses. The only one was HOSSA and he played little to no effect during the regular season when the Pens got the #2 seed. Yeah, Laraque is such a leader that guys like Gonchar and Crosby are now speechless without him, they won't provide words of wisdom at all, such a dramatic loss.

We'll see how guys like Satan and Fedotenko perform with the likes of Crosby and Malkin. I expect big things from Satan, Fedotenko I'm not so sure of.

Hmm, I don't see much wrong with those lines, except for the 4th line and I can guarentee you Beech isn't going to be your 4th line center. And if you think Taffe isn't going to beat out Cooke for that job sometime down the line you're mistaken. As for Goddard, hey, no one in Pittsburgh is happy about that pick-up, he can't fight like he used too, but hey, Laraque hardly fought at all so what's it matter? It's like choosing whether you want to be shot or stabbed. Hell, Dupuis was on the 1st line the majority of the season and he played well. If anything Dupuis is a solid replacement for Malone since he's a hard worker on the PK and can stand in front of net in Malones place, that's all you need to replace a player like Malone, only difference is Dupuis isn't an often stupid player. Sykora is most likely to stay on Malkins line and Staal may play with them as well which provides opportunity for guys such as Taffe, Minard, Stone, James to get more playing time in the big leagues. What's wrong with that third line and the defense? Tyler Kennedy is a beast and work horse, so is Talbot. Haha why add Whitney to the line when he's hurt? I also love how you don't include Eaton and the fact that Scuds (our second best defensive defenseman) isn't on there either. We have depth at D man, whether you think Whitney is a good asset or not.

Yeah, we got rid of our farm system, a whole 3 players (2 of them which were playing in the NHL) who will amount to nothing more then 3rd line wingers such as Christensen and Army. Sorry to break it to you but those kids that replaced Armstrong when he played like shit and Roberts when he was hurt, you know that lack of depth you mentioned, well, they're still here, and they played just as hard as both of them.

Edit: I agree, Cryers have a good team, that doesn't mean the Pens won't have a good team and won't contend for a championship. Yes dude, you are nitpicking. Aside from Hossa, if Malone, Armstrong, Christensen, Roberts, Laraque all went to the Flyers you wouldn't say shit about them and their "leadership qualities."

You are blatently ignoring the fact that we were a great team before Hossa and the fact that what I said about those players that are such a drastic loss in your eyes is true about their skills and what happened to them. You also forget that with Crosby and Malkin they have that uncanny ability to make subpar players look better then they are, ala Ryan Malone. We really don't know how Fedatenko and Satan will do with those guys, but chances are they'll get their opportunities with 2 fantastic playmakers. You can't just write them off when they played with nothing in NY and now they have the chance to play with 2 of the top 10 players in the league, again we'll see what happens with those 2. Hell they could probably make you look good if you suited up. You clearly don't watch enough Penguin hockey to know what you're talking about when you think Laraque, Roberts, Armstrong (lawl) and Christensen are big losses, especially when I just pointed out how they did nothing for us to get where we were at and how we worked around their individual sitations, such as Armstrong getting scratched for playing like shit. Or maybe you do watch enough hockey but decided to hop on that bandwagon. Stick with the West.

And please, don't give me that "maybe you dont want to admit it" bullshit. I'd be the first to admit what I doubt about the Pens or question their decisions, or predict them to not to this and that. But these players you mention are absolutely NOTHING to write home about, again, for theeee 42th time, the only player that we lost during the offseason that would make a dent in our scheme is Hossa.

[Frood]

No Senators in the playoffs are you serious? I think a couple people are in for a surprise; but we'll see. I'd put money on Ottawa over Montreal to win the North East for sure.. but maybe I'm just biased.

I don't know about other sens fans but I like the changes made so far this off-season. Lost Commodore, Stillman, Redden, and Meszaros got J. Smith, Ruutu, Picard, Kuba, Auld, and a first round pick. It may seem like they lost a lot but anyone watching their games last year knew Redden slipped to the #6 Defense Position, Commodore drew more penalties than he was worth, and after a good first season Meszaros' really hasn't played that well, especially defensively, losing his spot on the PK to Schubert (who plays forward half the time). I did like Stillman though, but keeping him wasn't really an option. I feel the players brought in make the team more balanced and with time to heal up all the injuries from last year I think the Sens should be back near the top of the Eastern Conference like they have been the last 10 years.
After their shitty performance in the second half of 07-08 theres definently a basis to question them

[Shymega]

And again, Malone, Armstrong, Christensen, Roberts, Laraque (all laughable) are not drastic losses. The only one was HOSSA and he played little to no effect during the regular season when the Pens got the #2 seed. Yeah, Laraque is such a leader that guys like Gonchar and Crosby are now speechless without him, they won't provide words of wisdom at all, such a dramatic loss.

We'll see how guys like Satan and Fedotenko perform with the likes of Crosby and Malkin. I expect big things from Satan, Fedotenko I'm not so sure of.

Hmm, I don't see much wrong with those lines, except for the 4th line and I can guarentee you Beech isn't going to be your 4th line center. And if you think Taffe isn't going to beat out Cooke for that job sometime down the line you're mistaken. As for Goddard, hey, no one in Pittsburgh is happy about that pick-up, he can't fight like he used too, but hey, Laraque hardly fought at all so what's it matter? It's like choosing whether you want to be shot or stabbed. Hell, Dupuis was on the 1st line the majority of the season and he played well. If anything Dupuis is a solid replacement for Malone since he's a hard worker on the PK and can stand in front of net in Malones place, that's all you need to replace a player like Malone, only difference is Dupuis isn't an often stupid player. Sykora is most likely to stay on Malkins line and Staal may play with them as well which provides opportunity for guys such as Taffe, Minard, Stone, James to get more playing time in the big leagues. What's wrong with that third line and the defense? Tyler Kennedy is a beast and work horse, so is Talbot. Haha why add Whitney to the line when he's hurt? I also love how you don't include Eaton and the fact that Scuds (our second best defensive defenseman) isn't on there either. We have depth at D man, whether you think Whitney is a good asset or not.

Yeah, we got rid of our farm system, a whole 3 players (2 of them which were playing in the NHL) who will amount to nothing more then 3rd line wingers such as Christensen and Army. Sorry to break it to you but those kids that replaced Armstrong when he played like shit and Roberts when he was hurt, you know that lack of depth you mentioned, well, they're still here, and they played just as hard as both of them.

Edit: I agree, Cryers have a good team, that doesn't mean the Pens won't have a good team and won't contend for a championship. Yes dude, you are nitpicking. Aside from Hossa, if Malone, Armstrong, Christensen, Roberts, Laraque all went to the Flyers you wouldn't say shit about them and their "leadership qualities."

You are blatently ignoring the fact that we were a great team before Hossa and the fact that what I said about those players that are such a drastic loss in your eyes is true about their skills and what happened to them. You also forget that with Crosby and Malkin they have that uncanny ability to make subpar players look better then they are, ala Ryan Malone. We really don't know how Fedatenko and Satan will do with those guys, but chances are they'll get their opportunities with 2 fantastic playmakers. You can't just write them off when they played with nothing in NY and now they have the chance to play with 2 of the top 10 players in the league, again we'll see what happens with those 2. Hell they could probably make you look good if you suited up. You clearly don't watch enough Penguin hockey to know what you're talking about when you think Laraque, Roberts, Armstrong (lawl) and Christensen are big losses, especially when I just pointed out how they did nothing for us to get where we were at and how we worked around their individual sitations, such as Armstrong getting scratched for playing like shit. Or maybe you do watch enough hockey but decided to hop on that bandwagon. Stick with the West.

And please, don't give me that "maybe you dont want to admit it" bullshit. I'd be the first to admit what I doubt about the Pens or question their decisions, or predict them to not to this and that. But these players you mention are absolutely NOTHING to write home about, again, for theeee 42th time, the only player that we lost during the offseason that would make a dent in our scheme is Hossa.

You keep saying before Hossa we were a good team. That's right, a good team, but Hossa made you a great team, more so in the playoffs. And before Hossa you had Armstrong and Christensen. Whether you think they were not big losses. Christensen had 18 goals in 61 games 2 years ago, which is about a 25 goal pace. He was on pace for about 20 last year before he was traded. Armstrong will be a good player, but your head coach always tossed him around when 3 years ago he was basically a ppg (16 goals, 24 assists, 40 points in 47 games). He had 11 points in 19 games with a terrible Atlanta team, that's about a 19-20 goal, 50 point pace. Both of these players are still young, and will only get better.

You lost good, young, hard working role players who can get you 20 goals. Atlanta wouldn't just give away a top 10 player for scraps. And Christensen was also money in the shootout.

And just so you know, Malone was already a 20+ goal scorer before Crosby even arrived. He's had the same type of season for about 5 years now, so Crosby did not make him better.

[atreyu_2020]

"You are blatently ignoring the fact that we were a great team before Hossa", no I didn't say good team. We were a great team without Hossa because we got the #2 seed without him. Jesus Christ are you paying attention? Armstrong was SCRATCHED when the Pens went on that great run before Hossa came along. He barely played and when he did it was in the fourth line. Quit ignoring the facts so you can state your own false conclusions.

Do you know why Armstrong had those numbers? Playing with Crosby. Do you know why he was tossed around? Because he sucked shit last season, hence why he was scratched. He'll amount to nothing but a 3rd line winger, and if the day comes he's on the first/second line with 25 goals and pushing his team to a playoff birth, then you can say I told you so.

Do you know why Christensen had those numbers? Playing with Crosby/Malkin. I would love to see those numbers without them. Not to mention Christensen is mentally fucked in the head, he was the most inconsistent player on our roster. He's a lost cause. He fans on one play and he's useless the rest of the game. He's great asset was his shoot out ability and that was all he was good for.

No, we lost hard working third line wingers that are easily replacable.

Yes, Crosby did make him better, because most of his goals came from redirects that were already going in the net anyway. I knew you would bring up Malones rookie year. And you're absolutely right, he had a good year without Crosby, which is why people saw potential in him. Then when he did play with Crosby/Malkin the majority of his plays came from redirects and grazing the puck with his stuck on a puck already heading in the net. You completely ignore the fact that Ryan Malone is a stubborn player that makes more bad plays then he does good, the ratio is pretty devestating. Malone is not a key player to this team, nor was any other player we lost in FA. You act as if Satan isn't going to score 20+ goals being on the same line as Crosby, and you also act as if Fedotenko doesn't have the potential to score 20+ goals with Malkin. But you're right, we'll see.

[Shymega]

Ok, you're saying you were a great team without Hossa, fine. But in that great team you still had Malone, Christensen, Whitney and others for all the games prior.

What I'm saying is, you did not replace any of those players with anything better, you regressed, for all the reasons I mentioned before.

And I bought up Malone's rookie year because this just proves my point that Crosby did not make him better. Crosby in my opinion can only make hard working skilled players better, not dirty hard working work players like Malone. If Satan becomes hard working all the sudden, he can crack 30 goals again, but I wouldn't expect anything more than that.

Let's see how Armstrong and Christensen and Esposito turn out down in Atlanta. Let's see if the Penguins make that run at the division, then we'll talk again.

[Shymega]

When the Pens acquired Hossa, they only went 8 entire games without a point the rest of the season. And I remember the Pens being right on the playoff brink before they acquired him, hence the reason why they probably acquired him. Go ahead, add the numbers up.
http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=SubseasonSchedule

Pens with Hossa and without Crosby>Pens with Crosby and without Hossa, if you want to really break it down.

[Masterbasser412]

Man I just remembered how much I hated Christensen. Could develop into something, but I hated him so much at the time. He refused to make contact with anyone, was lost defensively and his best aspect, his shot, seemed to miss or get blocked every fucking time, such a frustrating player.

Also, to the guy who didn't like me not having the Sens in the playoffs...You might be right, the Sens very well could make the playoffs. But they're so damn inconsistant it's too hard for me to judge. They went from the best team in the NHL to one of the worst teams in the NHL in half a season. Which side of them shows up for next season, well, I don't know.

Also, I haven't really been reading the Shymega/Atreyu argument, been too busy, so I won't get involved :redface:

[Warka]

With Gagne back, Flyers = 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

[YankeesSuck]

Here's the Flyers..Now this is a team

(LW) Simon Gagne (C) Daniel Briere (RW) Mike Knuble
(LW) Scott Hartnell (C) Mike Richards (RW) Joffrey Lupul
(R/WLW) Scottie Upshall (C) Jeff Carter (RW) Steve Downie
(LW) Riley Cote (C) Glen Metropolit (RW) Arron Asham

(D) Kimmo Timonen (D) Braydon Coburn
(D) Derian Hatcher (D) Randy Jones
(D) Ryan Parent (D) Steve Eminger

(G) Martin Biron
(G) Antero Niitymaki
You still got that bitch ass faggot Randy Jones. Bergeron is burn that mother fucker on defense for payback. He isnt scared of a bitch who hits from behind.

My Bruins lineup
LW Marco Sturm C Marc Savard RW Chuck Kobasew
LW PJ Axelsson C Patrice Bergeron RW Michael Ryder
LW Milan Lucic C David Krecji RW Phil Kessel
LW Shawn Thornton C Vladimir Sobotka RW Blake Wheeler

D Zdeno Chara D Aaron Ward
D Andrew Alberts D Dennis Wideman
D Mark Stuart D Andrew Ference

G Tim Thomas
G Tuukka Rask/Manny Fernandez

Not offical but I bet opening night lines will be close to that.

[Shymega]

^^ Not a bad lineup..I like Krejci a lot.

[YankeesSuck]

Yeah Krecji had a great series against Montreal. I hope they put those 3 on that line together.

I acually like Philly just not Jones lol. I see they snagged Metropolit. I was upset when I heard the Bruins lost him. Check out this goal by him last season. You will like him quick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2lyiyCM-8

[MattyB]

Detroit will repeat.

That's all I have to say.

/completely, utterly biased.

Agreed utterly biased

[Masterbasser412]

Agreed utterly biased

Meh, not really, anyone who doesn't think Detroit is the best team going into the season is crazy.

[Frood]

Meh, not really, anyone who doesn't think Detroit is the best team going into the season is crazy.

they're really old though. They have experience and skill, but the elderly are more injury prone, which could cause problems.

[Gagne]

With Gagne back, Flyers = 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champions.

Gagne is win.


Yeaaaaaaaah. Looking forward to watching the Flyers tear it up this season.

[Shymega]

I think the Sharks will win it all.

Seriously, if the Sharks can be as good as they were last season with terrible years from Cheechoo, Marleau, Michalek, no Ryan Clowe and no real power play qb for 70% of the season, then I believe if those players bounce back with the additions of Blake and Boyle back there, they'll be a real legit team.

They could use another 20 goal scorer for depth, but that's probably it.

[Frood]

I think the Sharks will win it all.

Seriously, if the Sharks can be as good as they were last season with terrible years from Cheechoo, Marleau, Michalek, no Ryan Clowe and no real power play qb for 70% of the season, then I believe if those players bounce back with the additions of Blake and Boyle back there, they'll be a real legit team.

They could use another 20 goal scorer for depth, but that's probably it.

As a sharks fan of 10 years, my gut makes me agree with you, but after seeing them get disappointing results from them every year, im hesitant to think they'll win it. One thing that I think could help them out is a goalie. Nabokov is great, but who knows what resting every few games could do.

[navid]

fucking flyers rock the world, all you others suck ass. we got the most canadians, watch us rape the east. fuck pitts, fuck anyone else. flyers detroit final. okay im probablyh too drunk to exaggerate on that, but i saw sam gagner tonight at a bar, haha woo.

[Banzai]

Everyone thought the Sharks were going to win last season... and I don't see Detriot making a return trip. I'd like to see Tampa make a push back to the top after all of the off season shit they pulled. Bastards taking Malone from Pitt. Fucking bastards.

[sweet]

I can't wait to go to the Caps home opener to see them raise the southeast div. champs banner.

[YankeesSuck]

I can't wait to go to the Caps home opener to see them raise the southeast div. champs banner.
Nice enjoy the game. I'm trying to get tix to the Bruins opener. A banner raise over a division win though? Shit well I wouldnt know cause the Bruins never win the division lol. I have a good feeling about this season though.

[cloudfox]

As a sharks fan of 10 years, my gut makes me agree with you, but after seeing them get disappointing results from them every year, im hesitant to think they'll win it. One thing that I think could help them out is a goalie. Nabokov is great, but who knows what resting every few games could do.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Nabokov. He has saved the Shark's asses so many times, it's not even funny. He makes up almost half of the team, if not more. Take a look at the Nolan save last playoff season. Same with 2 OT save against Dallas, even though it was no use. Not to be biased, but Nabokov is flawless. What we need is a consistent defense and offense. Their power plays are uglier than Star Jone's shit to look at.

[Liberator13]

Nabokov is incredible. I hate him.

[cloudfox]

Nabokov is incredible. I hate him.

:lol:

It's sad, though. He's been on the Sharks for a long time, and has never let them down. I'd love to see a Sharks cup. Sharks get a lot of shit from people, but I think they could do it this year. If they pulled up their socks, and shifted into gear, they could be a dangerous team this year. Curious to see how it will be with a new coach. Ron Wilson had awesome philosophies, don't see why everyone hated him.


Of course, I'd be just as fine with another Detroit cup.

[Liberator13]

No offense to the rest of your team, but Nabby nearly single-handedly kept you in that series with Detroit in the 06-07 playoffs. How many shots did he have to stop night-in and night-out?

[cloudfox]

That's exactly what I was saying in the post above. He's saved their asses too many times. With the exception of Marleu and Thornton, the team has gotta step it up or get out. Cheechoo's pretty unpredictable these days, but he was awesome in 06-07. Christian Erhoff made the most shitty plays this playoff season, which has cost us about 4 games.

[Shymega]

:lol:

It's sad, though. He's been on the Sharks for a long time, and has never let them down. I'd love to see a Sharks cup. Sharks get a lot of shit from people, but I think they could do it this year. If they pulled up their socks, and shifted into gear, they could be a dangerous team this year. Curious to see how it will be with a new coach. Ron Wilson had awesome philosophies, don't see why everyone hated him.


Of course, I'd be just as fine with another Detroit cup.

Boyle and Blake will help that D so much. Not only are they good, but they have both won Cups.

[YankeesSuck]

Does anyone want to do fantasy hockey?

[Trevi626]

Does anyone want to do fantasy hockey?

id be down.

[atreyu_2020]

Do it, I'm in.

[Shymega]

I'm already in 2 leagues or else I'd join.

[Liberator13]

Yeah, I'm game for that.

[davo canavo]

Detroit all the way baby.

(Don't let my location fool you/just moved from MI 3 weeks ago)

P.S. Anyone got a 360? We should do a league in NHL 09 since it's a totally badass game.

[Mr business]

Oilers get no love but they are a team to watch this year for sure.

one of the most improved in the offseason, only question mark is our goaltending.

[MattyB]

Ebaums fantasy hockey FTW

[Dally]

No offense to the rest of your team, but Nabby nearly single-handedly kept you in that series with Detroit in the 06-07 playoffs. How many shots did he have to stop night-in and night-out?

He helped big time in the series between Sharks/Stars this past season. The Sharks have a few players that nearly disappear in the playoffs, that needs to change before they ever win the cup.

[322]

i think an extremely high majority of people will choose Ovechkin first this year, but if you got 2nd pick, who would you go with???

crosby? brodeur? osgood? thornton?

last year in my pool, my best player ended up being Nabokov.

[YankeesSuck]

Yeah first preseason game tonight for Bruins vs Montreal.

[KicktheBaby]

i think an extremely high majority of people will choose Ovechkin first this year, but if you got 2nd pick, who would you go with???

crosby? brodeur? osgood? thornton?

last year in my pool, my best player ended up being Nabokov.

Crosby is probably the most common choice but he's likely to sit in Pitts last game or two and fuck you over if you make it to the finals. Plus I don't like him because he screwed me in my pool last year. Id probably pick Heatley or Zetterberg. Definitely not Osgood; if your doing a snake draft with 12 or less people he should still be there 3-4 round. Brodeurs' amazing but again i wouldn't pick him too early when you could pick lundqvist,kipper,gigeure,turco...in 2nd or 3rd round.

In yahoo! snake drafts I like going 1. Forward 2.Goalie 3.Forward 4.Goalie

First round of my pool (which has pretty knowledgeable people;when it comes to fantasy hockey) went:
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Alexander Ovechkin
3. Evgeni Malkin
4. Dany Heatley
5. Henrik Zetterberg
6. Jarome Iginla
7. Pavel Datsyuk
8. Martin Brodeur
9. Joe Thornton
10. Ilya Kovalchuk
11. Evgeni Nabokov
12. Vincent Lecavalier

with spezza/hossa being first picks of second round.

Ps: In my draft I saw that the Avg. Yahoo! pick for Marcel Hossa was 32 overall lol; don't let the bastard younger brother fool you

[322]

Crosby is probably the most common choice but he's likely to sit in Pitts last game or two and fuck you over if you make it to the finals. Plus I don't like him because he screwed me in my pool last year. Id probably pick Heatley or Zetterberg. Definitely not Osgood; if your doing a snake draft with 12 or less people he should still be there 3-4 round. Brodeurs' amazing but again i wouldn't pick him too early when you could pick lundqvist,kipper,gigeure,turco...in 2nd or 3rd round.

In yahoo! snake drafts I like going 1. Forward 2.Goalie 3.Forward 4.Goalie

First round of my pool (which has pretty knowledgeable people;when it comes to fantasy hockey) went:
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Alexander Ovechkin
3. Evgeni Malkin
4. Dany Heatley
5. Henrik Zetterberg
6. Jarome Iginla
7. Pavel Datsyuk
8. Martin Brodeur
9. Joe Thornton
10. Ilya Kovalchuk
11. Evgeni Nabokov
12. Vincent Lecavalier

with spezza/hossa being first picks of second round.

Ps: In my draft I saw that the Avg. Yahoo! pick for Marcel Hossa was 32 overall lol; don't let the bastard younger brother fool you

i think osgood would be good in my draft. we get 2pts for goalie wins, plus 3 bonus for shutouts. he'll play a lot, so it's basically putting your money down on detroit winning. good odds imo.

[Shymega]

What do your teams look like?

[Mr Larkin]

they are black and gold and hate faggots from Montreal.

[KicktheBaby]

i think osgood would be good in my draft. we get 2pts for goalie wins, plus 3 bonus for shutouts. he'll play a lot, so it's basically putting your money down on detroit winning. good odds imo.

Oh ok; you're doing basic scoring. That does change things but still Osgood's getting older and probably looking at 50-60 starts. Detroit picked up Conklin, who will probably play 15-20 games, and they have Jimmy Howard, who's the teams 'future' goaltender, and may even take over by the end of the year. Still if Osgood gets 50-60 starts he'll probably get 35-45 wins. There are goalies that arn't on as good teams, but goalies like Lundqvist, Brodeur, Kiprusoff, Nabokov and Turco are looking at 70-80 games and are almost guaranteed 40+ wins and a couple shutouts. If your forward's scoring is done like 1goal or 1assist= 1 point then remember a goalie would need 40wins/7shutouts to be on par with a 100point scorer. Players like crosby/ovechkin are more likely to get 130 points than any goalie is to get 50wins and 10 shutouts (though i'd never bet against brodeur...)

[Ado]

they are black and gold and hate faggots from Montreal.

You're insulting your head coach and a first line winger

[Masterbasser412]

Ty Conklin will be the steal of the year for fantasy.

[ullr420]

2 weeks away from changing my avy back to a Red Wing :)


I just bought plane tickets (and game tickets) to see the Wings play the Canucks on October 16th @ The Joe. I can't fucking believe how much cheaper games are in Detroit compared to Vancouver. $179 for 9th row lower bowl on the blue line in Detroit (2 tickets) and its over $100 for one nose bleeder in Vancouver.

[YankeesSuck]

You're insulting your head coach and a first line winger
Yeah and your sig isnt insulting the whole team. :p

Game isnt on tv but I am listening online here.
http://www.cjad.com/

End of 1st 1-1.

[322]

2 weeks away from changing my avy back to a Red Wing :)


I just bought plane tickets (and game tickets) to see the Wings play the Canucks on October 16th @ The Joe. I can't fucking believe how much cheaper games are in Detroit compared to Vancouver. $179 for 9th row lower bowl on the blue line in Detroit (2 tickets) and its over $100 for one nose bleeder in Vancouver.

or you could have seen Detroit in Vancouver with no plane ticket. :dunce:

haha jk, it should be a good time.

I remember last year, for the Pittsburgh game in Vancouver (Crosby's first appearance in Vancouver) people were paying RIDICULOUS money for those tickets, and in some cases, could have (almost) flown to pittsburgh, got a hotel and a ticket.

[Ado]

Yeah and your sig isnt insulting the whole team. :p


Um..... no?

edit : 7-2 bruins lol

[treatboy]

i'm hearing that hamrlik may have been injured during the game. Final score 8-3.

[Ado]

I thought pre-season games were made to let new guys play.

I'm not a bruins fan, but looking at their tonight's line-up, I only see 3-4 new names. Less than half of Montreal's line-up were regular guys.

Oh well, to each his own!

[treatboy]

and it will come back to bite them in the ass when we whip their asses the first time we play them.

our regulars that were in the line up did nothing more than have a casual skate. A few of them owe halak a beer for playing like sloths, but it's the first preseason game. Last thing we need is someone pulling a groin or taking an unnecessary risk and ending up with an injury.

I care about none of that. All I want to know at this point is how hamrlik is doing. I don't even know what happened, all I know is that he might be hurt.

[Mr Larkin]

I thought pre-season games were made to let new guys play.

I'm not a bruins fan, but looking at their tonight's line-up, I only see 3-4 new names. Less than half of Montreal's line-up were regular guys.

Oh well, to each his own!

we split the team into two squads for the games so lines can gel I believe. Fernandez and Bergeron played against you guys tonight returning from injuries last season. I just hope none of their wives had their purses snatched...fucking habs.

EDIT:
Sturm - Bergeron - Kessel
Axelsson - Krejci - Wheeler
Marchand - Sobotka - Thornton
Reich - Thompson - Bitz
Penner - Ward
Alberts - McQuaid
Ference - Stokes
Fernandez
Regan

no Savard, Ryder, Chara, Lucic, Stuart, Thomas, Hnidy, Kobasew, Yelle, Wideman, Schaefer, Nokelainen...sooo I'm looking at the game report and it seems not only did Bergy have his way with you...Thornton wiped the floor with Begin, and Ference had himself a Gordie Howe Hat trick.

[Shymega]

You guys can watch some preseason games on your teams TV. I'm not sure what ones they'll air, but I'm watching the Oilers-Canucks right now for the hell of it.
http://oilers.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=804&id=21066

[322]

You guys can watch some preseason games on your teams TV. I'm not sure what ones they'll air, but I'm watching the Oilers-Canucks right now for the hell of it.
http://oilers.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=804&id=21066

thank you thank you thank you

lol Don Taylor is doing playbyplay

[Fireal87]

Leafs beat Sabres, was at the game.
7-4 Dominic Moore played great, and Cujo got a standing ovation.
And Hollweg (sp?) should be a fan favourite, guy is small but loves the rough stuff.

[322]

canucks win

fuck edmonton

[Samson]

canucks win

fuck edmonton

Whoot! Canucks for the Cup!

[d_lit_e]

Leafs beat Sabres, was at the game.
7-4 Dominic Moore played great, and Cujo got a standing ovation.
And Hollweg (sp?) should be a fan favourite, guy is small but loves the rough stuff.

great to see Maple Leafs playing well, I thought they would do terrible but they seemed organized and focused

Now lets see them do well this season and make it to the playoffs and maybe win the cup:p

[cloudfox]

Does anyone else hate not being able to watch every hockey game going on TV? I know we have our local channels, and sports packages, but we shouldn't have to pay for them if we're already paying 80 bucks a month for fucking digital cable.

[Liberator13]

Does anyone else hate not being able to watch every hockey game going on TV? I know we have our local channels, and sports packages, but we shouldn't have to pay for them if we're already paying 80 bucks a month for fucking digital cable.

Yes. I just have Versus to catch games on until NBC picks them up since I have no local teams.

It blows ass.

[322]

doesn't fox sportsnet show a lot of games?

i can't complain with the canadian coverage.... all 82 games of the canucks + anything else that's on TSN, CBC, NBC and of course all the other sportsnet channels

[cloudfox]

doesn't fox sportsnet show a lot of games?

i can't complain with the canadian coverage.... all 82 games of the canucks + anything else that's on TSN, CBC, NBC and of course all the other sportsnet channels

Versus and FSN usually play a lot of different games during Playoff season. Other than that, it's only 1 team playing in your area, which in my case is Sharks. Occasionally Versus will play other games, like Redwings, but I think it's because of the division.

[322]

the 100 mind blowing moments on Best Damn SPorts Show had a hockey moment as their #1 and it's an american show. i was surprised to see that.

[Mysterio]

the 100 mind blowing moments on Best Damn SPorts Show had a hockey moment as their #1 and it's an american show. i was surprised to see that.

Hockey is the BEST DAMN SPORT!!!! thats why

[navid]

what was the mind blowing moment?

[322]

what was the mind blowing moment?

the 1980 US olympic team winning gold in hockey

[Shymega]

NHL.com launched their new beta site.

Check this shit out.
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/index.html

[322]

NHL.com launched their new beta site.

Check this shit out.
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/index.html

that's pretty cool, i like how you have the ability to change cameras, i love the camera above the net during a power play

[Liberator13]

Gonchar out indefinitely.

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=383250

[Ado]

Nice to see the Hamilton Bulldogs win against Detroit

:p

[atreyu_2020]

Gonchar out indefinitely.

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=383250

It sucks, he'll be out for several weeks. We definitely missed him at full strength in the playoffs.

Good thing we have depth at defense.

[Liberator13]

Nice to see the Hamilton Bulldogs win against Detroit

:p

Must have been a great game. How is Carle doing? That who got leveled?

[cloudfox]

Ah shit, Nicklas Lidstrom might be out for three weeks..Got a puck to the nose on the first game. I lol'd at Babcock's comment. He said he should tough it out like Yzerman did.

[Ado]

Must have been a great game. How is Carle doing? That who got leveled?

He's back already, yep

[Liberator13]

Ah shit, Nicklas Lidstrom might be out for three weeks..Got a puck to the nose on the first game. I lol'd at Babcock's comment. He said he should tough it out like Yzerman did.

Three weeks? I thought it was only 3 games.

He's back already, yep

Very good, I'm glad. That's always scary.

[Dally]

that's pretty cool, i like how you have the ability to change cameras, i love the camera above the net during a power play

Really? I HATE that view.

Three weeks? I thought it was only 3 games.



TSN said 3 games.

[cloudfox]

Really? I HATE that view.




TSN said 3 games.

Yeah, I read it wrong. Somehow read exibition games as weeks.

[322]

Really? I HATE that view.


yeah, i love seeing the play develop, seeing the d-men line up and take shots from the point. not worth watching it on a cpu though, although i could hook it up to my tv

[Liberator13]

Yeah, I read it wrong. Somehow read exibition games as weeks.

That's quite a common error, its ok. I'm just glad you were wrong. :)

[Ado]

Already sick of the pre-season.

I want to see more than 7-8 regulars playing with the habs. The kids are boring.

[Mr Larkin]

Already sick of the pre-season.

I want to see more than 7-8 regulars playing with the habs. The kids are boring.

I love the fact the Bruins have a lot of young exciting guys to watch.

[YankeesSuck]

I love the fact the Bruins have a lot of young exciting guys to watch.
The Wheels are rolling.

[Mr Larkin]

Krejci and Sobotka are scary.

[Shymega]

I watched the Rangers take on Swiss side SC Bern today. The Rangers destroyed them 8-1, but the atmosphere there was amazing. Their arena holds about 18,000 fans, but on one side they have a free stand with no seats that holds over 12,000 fans. Tomorrow the Rangers take on Metallurg of the KHL for the Victoria Cup.

Now we need stands like that in the NHL
YouTube - sc bern

And Roberto Luongo is the captain of the Canucks:eek:

[YankeesSuck]

Krejci and Sobotka are scary.
They were talking trade rumors on WEEI. They want a top puck moving defenseman.

"Bruins General Manager Peter Chiarelli told WEEI.com that "there's a better than 50 percent chance" that the B's will execute a trade prior to the beginning of the NHL season on Oct. 9. The Bruins have a surplus of forwards on their roster and a need for a top-flight, puck-moving defenseman as they enter the final 10 days of training camp, but the Bruins GM preferred a move that will give his hockey club a bit more cap flexibility. The cap is $56.7 million and the B's are currently in the neighborhood of $500,000 under the limit for the 2008-09 season. Forwards Peter Schaeffer and P.J. Axelsson have been mentioned in previous reports as potential trade bait that could provide salary cap relief for the Bruins. "I'd say there's a better than 50 percent. I'd like to get some cap flexibility going into the year and have the ability to add on in another part of the year when I've seen how the team is going. It's just nice to have cap flexibility," said Chiarelli. "The first part of camp is over now and teams have already evaluated the younger guys. Teams are trimming down to 28 or 29 guys, so now they'll be tinkering with their team and truly seeing what they have. The same way that we see that we have a need or two, other teams are [seeing] the same thing. There should be some [roster] juggling."

Bruins vs Habs again tonight!

[Ado]

Bruins vs Habs again tonight!

Will be interesting, montreal will have more than 8 regulars for once

Also :

YouTube - Carey Price Amazing Save vs Detroit Red Wings Sept 30

"this is the save of the year, and it isn't even the year yet"

[Shymega]

Calm down Pierre Mcguire:lol:

[Mr Larkin]

Will be interesting, montreal will have more than 8 regulars for once

Also :

YouTube - Carey Price Amazing Save vs Detroit Red Wings Sept 30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikeCcQg6sf4)

"this is the save of the year, and it isn't even the year yet"

From what I have read this is going to be treated as an actual game, hopefully it's a good one.

[Ado]

Got back home to catch the final 5 mins on the radio

:)

[Mr Larkin]

Got back home to catch the final 5 mins on the radio

:)

I listened to a good portion of the game, I'm awaiting a trade...

[Ado]

What kind of trade?

Atm we have 15 forwards, 8 D and 3 goalies and all of them are pretty damn good. Of course some must go.

I'm thinking about Dandenault, he has served his purpose but...

Edit : after reading a couple of news, I see that the "trade" you've been talking about concerns the bruins, my bad.

[322]

canucks are still undefeated... too bad these games don't count. we're looking good though.

[Mr Larkin]

What kind of trade?

Atm we have 15 forwards, 8 D and 3 goalies and all of them are pretty damn good. Of course some must go.

I'm thinking about Dandenault, he has served his purpose but...

Edit : after reading a couple of news, I see that the "trade" you've been talking about concerns the bruins, my bad.

We have a log jam of forwards, especially Centers. We're looking for a puck moving defense man. There is a long shot we move Savard, little more we move Kessel, Probably Krecji or Axelson, hopefully Schaefer. We need to get some cap room if we plan on having Wheeler or Rask up.

[YankeesSuck]

mr larkin you going to the home opener? I got 1 ticket. Before the game we are gonna party at halftime pizza lol ever been there? And then maybe a bar.

[Shymega]

canucks are still undefeated... too bad these games don't count. we're looking good though.

I picked them to win the division weeks ago. Everyone else and their mother has written them off. I hope they they keep it up as well.

[navid]

the canucks cannot score enough to win many games this year. they wont do shit, dont worry.

[Shymega]

the canucks cannot score enough to win many games this year. they wont do shit, dont worry.

They'll score. Maybe not elite, but with their D and goaltending, they won't need to score 5 goals a game.

I pick Bernier as my sleeper to score 40 goals this year

[Mr Larkin]

mr larkin you going to the home opener? I got 1 ticket. Before the game we are gonna party at halftime pizza lol ever been there? And then maybe a bar.

maybe, I would kill to be there but you wont find me at the bar :wah:

[atreyu_2020]

My sisters wedding is tomorrow so I'm missing the Pens opener, kill me lord.

[sweet]

I'm watching the Caps vs. flyers game, online because they stream the steam the feed from the jumbotron. So while they were doing the "smile cam" this 6 year old was flicking off the camera. Somehow I found this hilarious.

and Fleischmann scores to make it 4-1!!

[Masterbasser412]

My sisters wedding is tomorrow so I'm missing the Pens opener, kill me lord.

Get your priorities straight!

[sweet]

Get your priorities straight!

Indeed, a marriage last forever, but a season opener lasts only a few hours.

[Mysterio]

Its just a big tease tonight! We get to watch one game, then we have to wait a week to start watching all the others games :(

That being said I hope the Sens take it!

[Masterbasser412]

I hope you're happy Atreyu, you missed a once in a season occurrence, a Rob Scuderi goal.

[Shymega]

Its just a big tease tonight! We get to watch one game, then we have to wait a week to start watching all the others games :(

That being said I hope the Sens take it!

There is a couple games tomorrow as well.

[atreyu_2020]

I hope you're happy Atreyu, you missed a once in a season occurrence, a Rob Scuderi goal.

Damn, there's always next year.

Pens PP looks awful.

[Rex4223]

Gonchar is really missed on the PP already. What are we now like 0-12 on the PP? It's hard to judge the team just yet though. We'll just have to wait until they get back to the states and go from there. That ice looked terrible and caused problems on both sides. The Sens still found a way to win though and that's what we need to do too. I think once they get home and settle in we will really see what they're capable of.

[KicktheBaby]

Sens beat Pens 3-1; almost a shutout but Pitts scored with .5 seconds left. Very good game for the senators. Dany Heatly 3ppg/2 games

[atreyu_2020]

Pens always start slow, you know they're not going to be that bad on the PP. Sykora is missed too, what the fuck is wrong with him?

[Rex4223]

He was out last week with flu like symptoms. This weeks he has a groin injury.

[Molson]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO leafs GO!

They played great tonight. Really suprised. Excited for this year.

[Rick Derris]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO leafs GO!

They played great tonight. Really suprised. Excited for this year.

Is this the year? Hahahaha.

[Fireal87]

The Luc Bourdon tribute was really good, and had me choked up.

R.I.P. Luc Bourdon

[ullr420]

Is this the year? Hahahaha.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

How about those Canucks? Looking real good.
I'm flying to Detroit tomorrow night, Canucks Wings next Thursday night, Good Times :wave:

[cloudfox]

Holy shit, 6-0 Canucks! Jesus, Kipper! It's alright, though. He started off slow last season, too.


Sharks dominated the last 2 periods. Even played aggressively when they were up by 3, which is totally new for them.

Didn't watch much of Avalanche and Bruins. Already had 2 games going on at once.


Redwings will tidy up after this loss. Didn't get to catch a lot due to work, but did Lidstrom play this game?


It was an awesome night tonight. Got to watch 4 games in all. 2 on Versus, 1 on CSN, and 1 on Center Ice, which is free for all Comcast and DirectTV consumers this week.

[ryan41]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=252112&lid=sublink09&lpos=headlines_nhl

lol jesus this guy just won't die

oh and lol at the def leppard guy putting the cup on the table UPSIDE DOWN.

[Samson]

Go Nucks! Bernier sure stepped up with scoring and fighting/ wresting but atleast he tried to stick for Mr Sedin.

[Molson]

Is this the year? Hahahaha.

Doubtfully. But I loved how they played. With true heart and soul.

Good game. Good team. They're going to make lots of mistakes, but they played really well.

but did Lidstrom play this game?

.

yes

[1mOntana]

montreal this year for sure

[sweet]

The Caps would've been better off without a goalie.

[Liberator13]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO leafs GO!

They played great tonight. Really suprised. Excited for this year.

From what I saw and heard, they absolutely outplayed Detroit and deserved the win. Sucks that it had to be the night when the banner was raised, but 'upsets' are always cool to see.


Redwings will tidy up after this loss. Didn't get to catch a lot due to work, but did Lidstrom play this game?
He did play. Turnovers pwnd the Wings, expect that to be fixed immediately.

[Mr Larkin]

From what I saw and heard, they absolutely outplayed Detroit and deserved the win. Sucks that it had to be the night when the banner was raised, but 'upsets' are always cool to see.


He did play. Turnovers pwnd the Wings, expect that to be fixed immediately.

*ahem* well the Bruins won.

[Liberator13]

*ahem* well the Bruins won.

Hey, did you see Lord Stanley in the Joe? How about the pregame celebration? You know.. the one where they lifted the banner? See that? Did Boston have anything like that this year?

[Warka]

montreal this year for sure

you said that last year.

[Mr Larkin]

Hey, did you see Lord Stanley in the Joe? How about the pregame celebration? You know.. the one where they lifted the banner? See that? Did Boston have anything like that this year?

I can live with the Bruins being average when I have the Red Sox/Celtics/Patriots. Anything the Bruins do is just icing on the cake. Game 3 last year in the Garden? I still jerk off to that shit.

[stickaLICK]

Devils get to beat up on the penguins today!

[Liberator13]

I can live with the Bruins being average when I have the Red Sox/Celtics/Patriots. Anything the Bruins do is just icing on the cake. Game 3 last year in the Garden? I still jerk off to that shit.

Didn't the Pats lose to the Dolphins? :lmao:

Devils get to beat up on the penguins today!

Good, I want to see some nasty hits on the Pens.

[navid]

i think the canadiens will finish 2nd or 3rd in the east, and then lose 2nd round playoffs.

[Mr Larkin]

Didn't the Pats lose to the Dolphins? :lmao:



Good, I want to see some nasty hits on the Pens.

oh no they wont have another perfect regular season after losing their starting quarterback what will I do:uhoh:

[Liberator13]

oh no they wont have another perfect regular season after losing their starting quarterback what will I do:uhoh:

Watch the Celtics try to buy another championship.

[Mr Larkin]

Watch the Celtics try to buy another championship.

in all honesty I hate the Celtics, I could care less how they do. The Bruins are the only team who I watch on tv. The other teams I follow and love, but watching sports on TV bores my asshole out.

[Liberator13]

Haha, its alright. I just enjoy giving you shit. I don't hate any of your teams other than the Pats, they annoy the fuck out of me.

[Ado]

5-0 habs midway through the game

finally a score that resembles an usual habs game!

[1mOntana]

lol make that 6-1

[Mysterio]

Nice Go Habs! They are playing well, but the Leafs are not that great.

[Ado]

Nice Go Habs! They are playing well, but the Leafs are not that great.

B-b-but... they beat Detroit!

[goatwalker]

God damn Rangers can never have an easy win. They always have to give thier fans a mini stroke.

Just once I want a game where I'm not bleeding from biting my finger nails.

[atreyu_2020]

Shoot the fucking puck...

[dialamo]

Shoot the fucking puck...
Wow Fleury played amazing, but the Devils definitely deserved to win that game.

Kudos to Fleury for stealing a point for you guys, he was awesome and it should be a good sign of things to come for the rest of the season.

[treatboy]

ado, i just wanted to let you know that i thought tonights game was beautiful. I almost cried at its beautifullness....it was just....beautiful.

[atreyu_2020]

Wow Fleury played amazing, but the Devils definitely deserved to win that game.

Kudos to Fleury for stealing a point for you guys, he was awesome and it should be a good sign of things to come for the rest of the season.

Shoot the fucking puck.

If we shot the fucking puck that turnover in OT doesn't happen and it goes to a shoot-out.

[YankeesSuck]

Bruins need to get their defense going before Montreal. Or Montreal is gonna burn them on the power play. I like the offense though. They getting lots of points so far.

[Mr Larkin]

Bruins need to get their defense going before Montreal. Or Montreal is gonna burn them on the power play. I like the offense though. They getting lots of points so far.

how do you feel about Axe on the first line and Sobotka in Providence?

[dialamo]

Bruins need to get their defense going before Montreal. Or Montreal is gonna burn them on the power play. I like the offense though. They getting lots of points so far.
Even Marc Savard is scoring goals!

[322]

Ovechkin VS Luongo tonight

should be a good one

[stickaLICK]

Fuck the Rangers...Devils vs. Rangers

[dialamo]

Horrible news: "Alexei Cherepanov collapsed on the bench at or near the end of Omsk's Kontinental Hockey League game and died a short time later." - TSN

Article:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=252547&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_nhl


My condolences to his family and all the Ranger fans out there. :(

[ryan41]

this is fucking terrible..kid had a bright future as one of the rangers top prospects coming over...part of me saying fuck the KHL but this is just one of those unfortunate events in hockey.

russian source rumors say Jagr may have been unintentionally involved in an event leading to this during the game...if true my god.

[treatboy]

here's a link that tells a bit about what happened with Jagr. It's hitting websites everywhere now...tsn, nhl, etc...

Unfortunately, it looks like Jagr and Cherapanov inadvertently collided and Jagr's elbow hit his chest/heart. A few moments later on the bench, he collapsed and passed away.

News is also indicating that they didn't have a working defibrillator at the facility (or something to that nature) and the ambulance had to be called back to the scene to pick him up (source tsn).

here's another article about the situation that details what happened with Jagr:

http://alexovetjkin.blogspot.com/2008/10/alex-cherepanov-was-sent-to.html

horrible horrible news.

[Mr Larkin]

RIP Kid :(
my thoughts also go out to Jagr.

A lot of people wanted the Bruins to get this kid in the draft.

[1mOntana]

flyers and canadians is going to be violent

[sweet]

Semin is a beast! Already has two goals tonight.

[YankeesSuck]

how do you feel about Axe on the first line and Sobotka in Providence?
I wish Sobotka could play, maybe later in the year. Acually Kobasew is hurt, maybe he will get called back. And they traded Alberts to the Flyers. WTF that is gonna help that team alot. I liked Alberts, not afraid to bang people around.

Axe deserves first line. He has been around a while and mainly used as on the 3rd or 4th line. So far so good, that line is good together.

[Liberator13]

Horrible news: "Alexei Cherepanov collapsed on the bench at or near the end of Omsk's Kontinental Hockey League game and died a short time later." - TSN

Article:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=252547&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_nhl


My condolences to his family and all the Ranger fans out there. :(

That sucks so much. I have no idea who he is, but that's horrible. Condolences to his family.

[YankeesSuck]

Video from the bench.
YouTube - Alexei Cherepanov's Last Minute at The Bench (Oct 13th)

Did they not know what was going on? Music is blasting and the crowd is cheering.

[navid]

that is just horrible, terrifying, my condolences

[Mr Larkin]

that made me feel kind of sick, knowing a kid my age dies in that video...

[sweet]

How is there a guy lying on the bench like that and the music blasting? How is there only one ambulance.. which isn't even there? Why would any player (namely Jagr) want to play in Russia rather than the NHL? I know the Russian natives have obligations, but NHLers who can play in the NHL might want to take the NHL over KHL. If Richard Zednik was on KHL ice last year, he dies, too. Alexei Cherepanov dies in a Russian arena. Sergei Zholtok dies in a Russian arena. Jiri Ficsher lives in N.A. arena

I kind of have to agree on what he said.

[Liberator13]

I was watching videos a month or so ago of when Jiri Fischer collapsed on the bench. I got teary, and I have no shame in admitting that.

[ryan41]

that video is disturbing.

maybe only because i am a rangers fan..but this picture with zherdev on the bench being consoled by dubinsky before tonight's game was really sadhttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3770/3364476wy2.jpg

"New York Rangers forward Brandon Dubinsky comes over and kisses the helmet of Nikolai Zherdev who was sitting alone on the bench before a moment of silence for Rangers prospect Alexei Cherepanov"

i got teary when i heard about this. rangers were seeing him as a bright light in the very near future to this team. 19 is way too young.

[stickaLICK]

that video is disturbing.

maybe only because i am a rangers fan..but this picture with zherdev on the bench being consoled by dubinsky before tonight's game was really sadhttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3770/3364476wy2.jpg

"New York Rangers forward Brandon Dubinsky comes over and kisses the helmet of Nikolai Zherdev who was sitting alone on the bench before a moment of silence for Rangers prospect Alexei Cherepanov"

i got teary when i heard about this. rangers were seeing him as a bright light in the very near future to this team. 19 is way too young.

I think that is a very sad story. The kid had a whole lifetime in front of him. Other then that you are a Ranger fan, so fuck you.

[ryan41]

fuck u u fucking guy u

[Mr Larkin]

fuck u u fucking guy u

this was a well thought out an alliterated post.

[Liberator13]

This is weird to say.

The LA Kings are looking good. Just watched them make it through 4 minutes of shorthanded time against the Ducks without much of a problem.

Pissed I missed the fight in the Calgary/Colorado game. That's why I wanted to see it. Hopefully there's another one.

[322]

who's in goal for SJ right now?

[atreyu_2020]

Maybe next time Cryers. Just wait til Sid gets hot, then you're really fucked.

[Liberator13]

LA is continuing to look impressive. The hell is this?

Also, one hell of a 3rd in the Calgary/Colorado game. Entertaining as hell.

[Ado]

Montreal Boston soon


oh yeah.. !

[YankeesSuck]

Montreal Boston soon


oh yeah.. !
I'm ready. I got 24 beers in my fridge if needed. I might have to save some for the Sox though lol.

But they would love nothing better than to beat Montreal, with all the 100 year anniversary stuff going on. And some early revenge for last year. I'm sure Ryder cant wait to play them. Oh how sweet it would be to kick their ass. You going to the game or just watching somewhere?

[tHe_]

I was watching that Sharks and Jackets game...umm the 2nd period if anyone caught it, was like a light switch. period 1 was meh and then the 2nd period was a whole new game. good win though by the sharks.

[navid]

gagne is producing, thats all i can take out of that loss.

[Ado]

I'm ready. I got 24 beers in my fridge if needed. I might have to save some for the Sox though lol.

But they would love nothing better than to beat Montreal, with all the 100 year anniversary stuff going on. And some early revenge for last year. I'm sure Ryder cant wait to play them. Oh how sweet it would be to kick their ass. You going to the game or just watching somewhere?

Not going...

all the season's tickets are sold out the second they were for sale.

[322]

canucks new 3rd jersey

http://icethetics.blogspot.com/

i hope they didn't pay anybody for this design... to be honest though I wish this was our normal jersey, not a fan of the whale, but wtf is up with this as a 3rd? it's barely different...


i wish we had these
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/uploads/canucks-uniforms.gif

[1mOntana]

I'm ready. I got 24 beers in my fridge if needed. I might have to save some for the Sox though lol.

But they would love nothing better than to beat Montreal, with all the 100 year anniversary stuff going on. And some early revenge for last year. I'm sure Ryder cant wait to play them. Oh how sweet it would be to kick their ass. You going to the game or just watching somewhere?

its not looking too good for boston..3-0? lmao

[Ado]

I love what I'm seeing

[1mOntana]

Not going...

all the season's tickets are sold out the second they were for sale.

lol remember when people use to give those bitches out?

edit: haha yeah me too, i saw laraque the other day at work (he was driving by in his balla ass escalade and gave us a ''whats up crackas'' wave) and since then everybody is fucking going crazy over him, i expected him to be a bad ass mother fucker and he did not disappoint

[Mr Larkin]

fucking have no idea whats going on, I had to go to greek games and miss most of the bruins game, FUCK.

[1mOntana]

3-2 canadiens

edit: 3-3 lol what a bunch of faggots

edit: 4-3 canadiens haha

[Ado]

Damn...

Bruins learned to score

Good game on both sides! Even though bruins completely got lucky on their third goal

[Mr Larkin]

a point is a point.

[YankeesSuck]

Damn...

Bruins learned to score

Good game on both sides! Even though bruins completely got lucky on their third goal
Like the Habs never get lucky bounces in that arena? Cmon that was rare for the Bruins.

lol Laraque fighting right away. I want him vs Chara though.

[1mOntana]

Like the Habs never get lucky bounces in that arena? Cmon that was rare for the Bruins.

lol Laraque fighting right away. I want him vs Chara though.

too bad he cant keep the fucking puck

[322]

Chelios: Def Leppard disgraced the Stanley Cup on purpose

"No, we know he did [it on purpose]... we talked to people at the show and the guy was being real rude to everybody," Chelios said. "He was in a bad mood when they got there, so for whatever reason he didn't want to be there. And that's his way of showing it and taking it out on the NHL."

more here
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chelios-Def-Leppard-disgraced-the-Stanley-Cup-o?urn=nhl,115373

[Liberator13]

Ugh, lost in OT.

Heck of a goal by Cleary though.

[Mr Larkin]

I just got tickets to the Bruins home opener on Monday, thanks to my connection at Benjamin Moore. The same guy who got me front row tickets for the Sox game tonight.

[Samson]

Chelios: Def Leppard disgraced the Stanley Cup on purpose

"No, we know he did [it on purpose]... we talked to people at the show and the guy was being real rude to everybody," Chelios said. "He was in a bad mood when they got there, so for whatever reason he didn't want to be there. And that's his way of showing it and taking it out on the NHL."

more here
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chelios-Def-Leppard-disgraced-the-Stanley-Cup-o?urn=nhl,115373

Ya I thought it was pretty dumb. Boooo Def leapard.

Oh and Canucks OT win last night Whoot.

[PossumLuver]

Chelios: Def Leppard disgraced the Stanley Cup on purpose

"No, we know he did [it on purpose]... we talked to people at the show and the guy was being real rude to everybody," Chelios said. "He was in a bad mood when they got there, so for whatever reason he didn't want to be there. And that's his way of showing it and taking it out on the NHL."

more here
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chelios-Def-Leppard-disgraced-the-Stanley-Cup-o?urn=nhl,115373

Lol, What has 5 arms and sucks?



Answer----------> Def Leppard

[Farout]

ahem....


LETS GO BLUES

[YankeesSuck]

I just got tickets to the Bruins home opener on Monday, thanks to my connection at Benjamin Moore. The same guy who got me front row tickets for the Sox game tonight.
Sweet where will you be sitting? I'll be down below in loge 8. I think thats behind one of the nets.

[Marcos2990]

just got that Sports Package that includes NFL, NBA, and NHL Centre Ice for $19.99 for the first 4 months. Got to watch Pitts vs Wash and it was a hell of a game. I needed it because the leafs are really disappointing to watch :(

[Dr. Mubang]

Chelios: Def Leppard disgraced the Stanley Cup on purpose

"No, we know he did [it on purpose]... we talked to people at the show and the guy was being real rude to everybody," Chelios said. "He was in a bad mood when they got there, so for whatever reason he didn't want to be there. And that's his way of showing it and taking it out on the NHL."

more here
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chelios-Def-Leppard-disgraced-the-Stanley-Cup-o?urn=nhl,115373

I've been a Red Wings fan my whole life, but it seems to me They didn't know. Def leppard is from the UK for fuck sake! They don't have much interest in the NHL there. Def leppard has had its ups and downs as far as demand for the band over the years, and I REALLY doubt they would do anything to jeopardize their relationship with any fans or any business ventures, like the NHL. It was a simple mistake, by people unfamiliar with hockey, it's as simple as that.

[sweet]

How could you not know it was upside down. Obviously the bigger, solid side goes on the bottom.

Anyway, Caps pull out a win in Pittsburgh. I'm not sure how many time the offense can keep doing this. They need to get their goalkeeping under control soon or things will go down hill.

[Ado]

Buffalo is raping everything in sight

:ohnoes:

[Liberator13]

Hell yes! I called that shit. The Wings were pissed about losing 28 secs into overtime on Thursday. Marian was visibly frustrated without any goals. I fucking called Marian burying it in the first 30 seconds of overtime. That was incredible, I'm so pumped he finally got his first goal as a Red Wing, and his 300th career. Good for him.

[Ado]

Epic second period (habs-yotes)

So much violence

[Liberator13]

Epic second period (habs-yotes)

So much violence

No shit? I'll definitely watch that one once they have it online then.

[Ado]

No shit? I'll definitely watch that one once they have it online then.

YouTube - Andrei Kostitsyn Injury on Hit by Sauer - October 18th, 2008

Nothing was called for this

His younger brother, Sergei, cried.. it was emotional

There were also 3 fights during that period (including Geroge Laraque!)

Edit : picture of the post-fight : http://habsinsideout.com/files/hio/images/1018pheenies01.preview.jpg

[Liberator13]

Damn, thanks for the vid.

I jumped on NHL.com, and looked at the 2nd period stats. I hope they get that full game online soon, I want to watch it.

Stars-Avs had some nastiness as well. Add that to my list.

[1mOntana]

laraque is a fucking beast

edit: oh and i just found out he used to be in the coyotes too lol? good shit

[Masterbasser412]

YouTube - Andrei Kostitsyn Injury on Hit by Sauer - October 18th, 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB7y_nGkVVU)

Nothing was called for this

His younger brother, Sergei, cried.. it was emotional

There were also 3 fights during that period (including Geroge Laraque!)

Edit : picture of the post-fight : http://habsinsideout.com/files/hio/images/1018pheenies01.preview.jpg

Why would there be anything called for that?

[treatboy]

because he went for his fucking head.

did you see koivu talking to the younger brother after the game? That's why he's the captain. Captain K is the man and I hope he stays for a very long time.

[Ado]

Why would there be anything called for that?

Seeing that you are a biased pens fan, I won't argue here.

[SportsFan81]

Flyers manage to blow another one. still winless.

[Masterbasser412]

Seeing that you are a biased pens fan, I won't argue here.

Why would I have any bias towards Phoenix or Montreal as a Pens fan? That was a beautiful hit.

[Rick Derris]

Sigh...

It's going to be a long season. :(

[atreyu_2020]

Haha Master is one of the most unbias hockey fans on this board. Ado, not only did what you say not make any sense and had nothing to do with the Pens, but you're as fair weather as they come on these boards.

So I wonder when people will begin to see how useless Ryan Malone is except for being tough on the boards. Just like Christensen/Armstrong.

[ryan41]

the hit on AK was a gray area hit at most...hands a little high but I think the way he landed on the ice did him in...though i am pissed because he is my fantasy league horse!!!

for anyone who missed the niittymaki save

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSHDscWmrC0

[Rex4223]

^^^ What a save!! It's to bad Philly couldn't pull a win for Niittymaki after that!

GO PENS!!!!!!!!

[1mOntana]

3-1 canadiens panthers

[Ado]

Has anyone come across to rumours involving franchise relocations?

Here is a POSSIBLE idea :

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8260/teamsmapqb1.jpg

[Mysterio]

Has anyone come across to rumours involving franchise relocations?

Here is a POSSIBLE idea :

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8260/teamsmapqb1.jpg

Is this a joke? Nashville moved its location, and they got rid of the Panthers..

[Ado]

Is this a joke? Nashville moved its location, and they got rid of the Panthers..

Panthers, Thrashers and Predators get moved to places where the clubs can make more money.

[atreyu_2020]

Another defenseman down for the Pens..thank god we have depth at D.

[Dr. Mubang]

Another defenseman down for the Pens..thank god we have depth at D.

Who told you that the Pens have depth a D? Last time I checked You didn't even have a one star defenseman. You're about 8 years too late with Sydor.

[YankeesSuck]

Has anyone come across to rumours involving franchise relocations?

Here is a POSSIBLE idea :

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8260/teamsmapqb1.jpg
wtf is that shit? I hope that does not show the Habs moving to Boston.

[atreyu_2020]

Who told you that the Pens have depth a D? Last time I checked You didn't even have a one star defenseman. You're about 8 years too late with Sydor.

Not one star? Well we do have one of the best scoring defensemen in the league in Gonchar and one of the best defensive defensemen in Scuds or even Eaton. While Scuds and Eaton aren't exactly "stars" to your standard because they don't make the highlight reel, they're pure defensmen and do a damn good job at it. Considering we lost 2 1st and 2nd line defensemen in Whitney and Gonchar not even when the season began and now have lost Gill (another skilled defensive player) and we've been able to fill gaps with Gologiski, a star in the making, I'd say we've been making out quite well. Gonchar, Whitney, Gill, Scuds, Letang, Orpik, Eaton, Goligoski, Sydor, that's who told me.

Next time, shut up.

[sweet]

Anyone see this hit. Shatters the glass.
YouTube - Milan Lucic Hits Mike Van Ryn, Shattering the Glass! 10/23

[atreyu_2020]

"I'm worried about the young children over there." As opposed to the adults sitting next to the glass too, fucking choad.

[Rick Derris]

Wow, Flames with 5 unanswered goals to win over the Preds.

Nice.

[navid]

heyy atreyu, go fuck yourself. your penguins suck dick. and i dont care if we havent won yet, go fuck yourself! haha fuck you fuckaa

[Ado]

Anyone see this hit. Shatters the glass.
YouTube - Milan Lucic Hits Mike Van Ryn, Shattering the Glass! 10/23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnXOLoOSbvc)

Epic

A question bears to my mind. What kind of compensation do the injured spectators do get? If any.

[Marcos2990]

Luke schenn is a beast!!!

[navid]

haha damn i was drunk.

[Mysterio]

Epic

A question bears to my mind. What kind of compensation do the injured spectators do get? If any.

Thats what i was just thinking, I would doubt any though..They are sitting close enough they should know the danger (the odd time this does happen) Maybe a free ticket IF that.

[YankeesSuck]

Epic

A question bears to my mind. What kind of compensation do the injured spectators do get? If any.
Wideman has a huge hit too. I'm sure the Bruins will do something, free tix away from the glass. And Lucic will probably do something for them on his own too.

[Marcos2990]

As I said before I'll say it again Luke Schenn is a beast. By the way he's playing he might stay with the team for the whole season.

[Cynosure]

LETs GO BLACKHAWKS

[cloudfox]

Holy shit did anyone catch that Lundqvist save against the Pens in OT last night? Fucking awesome.

[322]

the canucks are confusing this year. oh and the canucks decided to rip-off seattle's 12th man by having the 7th Canuck. so stupid.