If anyone ever browses WoW forums...

[PokemonMaster]

They just asploded. Blizzard announced PvE to PvP transfers. Initially this was disabled because even forum GM's agreed it was harder to level on a pvp server (Getting ganked, PvP servers an alliance can attack a horde whenever, PvE servers they can't unless both agree.) Basically, almost all of the forums is just threads bitching about this, which Blizzard said they would never do. Blizzard caves in for the money again.

And, I'm guessing because of the amount of people, the forums are now down. Kek.

[rand0m]

WoW has peaked ... so what if Blizzard do this ...

[Trenaur]

Expect WoW to do several different things here to cater to people and keep them.

WAR is coming...

[Superior_to_you]

US-Quel'dorei is going to die once and for all.

[PokemonMaster]

Now, not only can you potentially level to 60 without any effort, but your last 10 levels where the pvp is, you don't have to get ganked...then you get to gank!

1337 post.

[Leesin]

The only thing that interested me about this thread, is the fact that the Tags at the bottom says "niggers wow", lawl.

[PsiRedEye22]

Well, if they are catering to people, then your opinion is the minority. Sucks for you.

[PokemonMaster]

Actually, my opinion is the majority.

They aren't catering to the majority, they are catering to "Will this increase our income?"

Probably 75% of the community didn't want recruit-a-friend. But hey, Blizzard made money off of that. Probably 90% of the community didn't want Pve to Pvp (Including the best pvpers worldwide)...but hey....Blizzard is gonna get $ from a whole lot more transfers now.

[NMpwnsTX]

what makes you think people in pve servers would want to transfer to pvp servers in the first place? THEY FUCKING MADE CHARACTERS ON A PVE SERVER TO AVOID PVP. jesus you kids are stupid.

[PokemonMaster]

what makes you think people in pve servers would want to transfer to pvp servers in the first place? THEY FUCKING MADE CHARACTERS ON A PVE SERVER TO AVOID PVP. jesus you kids are stupid.

:confused:

Did you even read the thread?

[Superior_to_you]

Actually, my opinion is the majority.

They aren't catering to the majority, they are catering to "Will this increase our income?"

Probably 75% of the community didn't want recruit-a-friend. But hey, Blizzard made money off of that. Probably 90% of the community didn't want Pve to Pvp (Including the best pvpers worldwide)...but hey....Blizzard is gonna get $ from a whole lot more transfers now.

Cancel your account if you don't like it, otherwise stop bitching because you're not actually doing anything to change it.

[NMpwnsTX]

:confused:

Did you even read the thread?

Yeah, so whats your problem. are you afraid someones gonna level on a pve server and not get ganked and trasnfer over to your server!!?!?!? OMG THATS NOT FAIR I WAS GANKED 50023 TIMES TO GET TO LEVEL 70 IM GONNA POUT AND CRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY EFFECTS MY GAMEPLAY RIGHT?

:rolleyes:

[aooga12]

Expect WoW to do several different things here to cater to people and keep them.

WAR is coming...

i think its going to be mediocre personally...

[PokemonMaster]

Yeah, so whats your problem. are you afraid someones gonna level on a pve server and not get ganked and trasnfer over to your server!!?!?!? OMG THATS NOT FAIR I WAS GANKED 50023 TIMES TO GET TO LEVEL 70 IM GONNA POUT AND CRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY EFFECTS MY GAMEPLAY RIGHT?

I don't really fucking care pve scrubs are going to be on my server, hell, I didn't get ganked nearly at all leveling, I'm just fucking pissed Blizzard no longer gives a shit about quality and simply use this game to fund themself.

:rolleyes:

i think its going to be mediocre personally...

I don't plan on getting it, but I hope it fucking rapes, just to make Blizzard get their shit together.

They really sold out on this.


Cancel your account if you don't like it, otherwise stop bitching because you're not actually doing anything to change it.

Actually, everyone that disagrees with this is doing exactly what the people who bitched about no pve to pvp did. Whine on the forums.

[NMpwnsTX]

dude there a business. they know you little fucks wouldnt leave there game even if they wiped your characters. not that this a big deal or anything. most are just being whiners because they got nothing better to do.

[Superior_to_you]

Actually, everyone that disagrees with this is doing exactly what the people who bitched about no pve to pvp did. Whine on the forums.

Bitching only works when Blizzard stands to gain money by listening to it. So bitch all you want, but unless you're planning on canceling your account and taking a significant number of people with you, you're wasting your breath.

[NMpwnsTX]

and the majority of blizzards market isnt even in america. its in asia so frankly... they could give two shits if you took everyone with you and left. they got about 1 billion chinese people they could advertise to.

[SyDias]

What did I tell you? WoW is garbage and is a poor excuse for an MMORPG. Blizzard is cashing in on their easy game and as long as they make it easy, people will pay and play.

I'll just give an insight as to why PvP players did not want the 'PvE to PvP' realm transfer.

1) Economy
You can seriously make a huge killing (in US Dollars) with the economy on a PvP server. Players that have first-hand experience on both realm types would agree that it's far more expensive (gold wise) on a PvP server, because of the risk while farming at higher levels outside instances. Therefor, opening 'PvE to PvP' realm transfer would flood the market with easy-to-obtain PvE server items.

That said, Superior is right though... Complaining about their actions won't make them change their decision.

[Fungus Amungus]

Many people perfer to play on a PVE server than a PVP. Here's the reasons...

Any level 70 player that is a raider or finds they need alot of money they do dailys (repeatable quests you can do only 25 times a day). The biggest thing that makes dailys frustrating on a PVP server is how quickly you get fucked up. It takes sometimes hours to finish one quest, specially with the new Sunwell content where it's a competition against the factions.

PVE servers allow someone to play both Horde and Alliance. This allows the player to share thier wealth amongst his/her characters cross faction. This is only possible on a PVP server if you have two accounts.

Raiding is alot easier on a PVE server. One of the biggest issues is Horde raiding guilds and Alliance raiding guilds tend to have the same raiding schedule. That means while an Alliance guild is heading over to a duegon for the night so is the Horde. They come in contact and have a massive battle and camp each other for hours.

Another is people don't want another level of competition when it comes to gathering materials. Primals (which is a necessary material for anything that you want made) are expensive as hell because trying to farm them you're bound to run into a player that is doing the same. You spend half your time farming, the other half fighting.

The last and biggest reason is that with the new expansion, leveling will be a bitch. You have to level to 80 with every level 70 on the server. There will be a massive war, which means you won't level too fast.



Honestly, I've played on both kinds of servers and raided on boths kinds of servers. I like PVP. THe challenge and threat of you being ganked imposes just adds to the thrill. Nothing is more exciting than hunting down some dipshit that decided to ninja your ores. I can't wait tell WOTLK comes out. The massive battle that will occur in Northrend will bring back the days of DAOC.

[Macro]

Wow, they finally gave into the carebears then? :lol:

So basically, everyone's just gonna roll PVE to 70 and go to PVP to gank, right?

[Bartok]

i think its going to be mediocre personally...
Based on open beta, it's actually pretty decent, but still needs alot of work. Really feels rushed, but they have some great concepts about how PvP should work. I've been playing an ironbreaker recently (tank-type class), and it is a TON of fun in PvP.

Biggest problem is clunkiness of the game in general, it doesn't have that smooth, polished feel that WoW has. Give it time and it might be as good as WoW someday, but right now it's lacking that special something that made WoW so popular. I don't think it will kill WoW, but it might force Blizzard to improve their PvP systems.

[MelL]

Wow, they finally gave into the carebears then? :lol:

So basically, everyone's just gonna roll PVE to 70 and go to PVP to gank, right?

More like be ganked themselves. PvEers are going to be in for a rude awakening when they have PvP constantly going.

[JesusTheJedi]

Wow it's almost as if Blizzard isn't a business, and this really isn't that big of a deal.

[PokemonMaster]

What did I tell you? WoW is garbage and is a poor excuse for an MMORPG. Blizzard is cashing in on their easy game and as long as they make it easy, people will pay and play.

I'll just give an insight as to why PvP players did not want the 'PvE to PvP' realm transfer.

1) Economy
You can seriously make a huge killing (in US Dollars) with the economy on a PvP server. Players that have first-hand experience on both realm types would agree that it's far more expensive (gold wise) on a PvP server, because of the risk while farming at higher levels outside instances. Therefor, opening 'PvE to PvP' realm transfer would flood the market with easy-to-obtain PvE server items.

That said, Superior is right though... Complaining about their actions won't make them change their decision.


Uhh, no.

PvP does not want the transfer available because it's simply harder to level on a pvp server (ganking). I've seen atleast 5 quotes of GM's saying this. The only reason now to level on a pvp server is you can't afford $25.


Many people perfer to play on a PVE server than a PVP. Here's the reasons...

Any level 70 player that is a raider or finds they need alot of money they do dailys (repeatable quests you can do only 25 times a day). The biggest thing that makes dailys frustrating on a PVP server is how quickly you get fucked up. It takes sometimes hours to finish one quest, specially with the new Sunwell content where it's a competition against the factions.

PVE servers allow someone to play both Horde and Alliance. This allows the player to share thier wealth amongst his/her characters cross faction. This is only possible on a PVP server if you have two accounts.

Raiding is alot easier on a PVE server. One of the biggest issues is Horde raiding guilds and Alliance raiding guilds tend to have the same raiding schedule. That means while an Alliance guild is heading over to a duegon for the night so is the Horde. They come in contact and have a massive battle and camp each other for hours.

Another is people don't want another level of competition when it comes to gathering materials. Primals (which is a necessary material for anything that you want made) are expensive as hell because trying to farm them you're bound to run into a player that is doing the same. You spend half your time farming, the other half fighting.

The last and biggest reason is that with the new expansion, leveling will be a bitch. You have to level to 80 with every level 70 on the server. There will be a massive war, which means you won't level too fast.



Honestly, I've played on both kinds of servers and raided on boths kinds of servers. I like PVP. THe challenge and threat of you being ganked imposes just adds to the thrill. Nothing is more exciting than hunting down some dipshit that decided to ninja your ores. I can't wait tell WOTLK comes out. The massive battle that will occur in Northrend will bring back the days of DAOC.

These are reasons PvP is bad...

Why is this in here though?


More like be ganked themselves. PvEers are going to be in for a rude awakening when they have PvP constantly going.

Heh, a few people are suggesting titles for PvP server characters that transfered. Give em that extra gank. Normally I'd say it would never happen... But after this... >.<

[evilmittens]

Granted, I havent played since AQ came out, but seems to me let the PVE'ers run up their level to 70 then try to gank. Its not like they will have a ton of talent on that yet. Learning to play the character on a Pvp server is what made me a hell of a warrior, not leveling.

[Yuseke]

Granted, I havent played since AQ came out, but seems to me let the PVE'ers run up their level to 70 then try to gank. Its not like they will have a ton of talent on that yet. Learning to play the character on a Pvp server is what made me a hell of a warrior, not leveling.

I leveled on a PvP server and I still suck. Why? :(

[PokemonMaster]

I leveled on a PvP server and I still suck. Why? :(

Because you haven't afk'd enough AV for your free s2.

[Yuseke]

Because you haven't afk'd enough AV for your free s2.

I'm in S3 (with S2 shoulders) and Brutal Gloves. I don't bullshit for my gear :p

Not denying that I suck though. No way around that.

[Thomson]

Actually, my opinion is the majority.

They aren't catering to the majority, they are catering to "Will this increase our income?"

Probably 75% of the community didn't want recruit-a-friend. But hey, Blizzard made money off of that. Probably 90% of the community didn't want Pve to Pvp (Including the best pvpers worldwide)...but hey....Blizzard is gonna get $ from a whole lot more transfers now.

do you have facts to back up those figures or did you just pull that out of your ass? the few thousand piss ant that moan about this in the WoW forums dont speak for the 10 million WoW players.

I'm just fucking pissed Blizzard no longer gives a shit about quality and simply use this game to fund themself.

I don't plan on getting it, but I hope it fucking rapes, just to make Blizzard get their shit together.

They really sold out on this.

Blizzard are using this to fund themselves? what exactly do you think a business is? Blizzards one and only goal is to make money, so cry some more.

but at the end of the day that's why these guys are rich business men and you just a douchebag.

[sKin]

i think its going to be mediocre personally...

It was unfortunately :(

I played for about 3 days in open beta, about 8 hours each day and nothing could shake off that it was just an inferior WoW clone. I tried doing RvR, but that became boring. So I quested. Questing was done the same if not better in WoW. I tried the PQs... meh. The combat in War was just awful, unresponsive, and clunky in comparison. Now come on, combat is fundamental. Without good combat the game sorta crumbles after.

I cancelled my preorder and uninstalled the beta client.

First Spore, now War. Two games i've waited ages for, both tremendous let downs.

[PsiRedEye22]

do you have facts to back up those figures or did you just pull that out of your ass? the few thousand piss ant that moan about this in the WoW forums dont speak for the 10 million WoW players.



Blizzard are using this to fund themselves? what exactly do you think a business is? Blizzards one and only goal is to make money, so cry some more.

but at the end of the day that's why these guys are rich business men and you just a douchebag.

Perfect post in this thread.

[PattyWackit]

PVE servers are gay anyways

[Toretto]

I'm just fucking pissed Blizzard no longer gives a shit about quality and simply use this game to fund themself.


response 1: they stopped caring about quality before they came to the "graphics part"

response 2: of course they're going to use the game to fund themselves, dipshit, did you think that they created the game to do gamers a favor? :rollseyes

[utterdisturbed]

I don't even play WoW or ever have, and i think that is a shitty thing to do to the players.

[Yuseke]

I don't even play WoW or ever have, and i think that is a shitty thing to do to the players.

I'm not too worried. Once they start allowing RPPvE servers to transfer to PvP servers, it then becomes a catastrophe!

[PokemonMaster]

do you have facts to back up those figures or did you just pull that out of your ass? the few thousand piss ant that moan about this in the WoW forums dont speak for the 10 million WoW players.



Blizzard are using this to fund themselves? what exactly do you think a business is? Blizzards one and only goal is to make money, so cry some more.

but at the end of the day that's why these guys are rich business men and you just a douchebag.

See that word over there? "Probably" ? Yeah, that.

Oh, and you see that other word? "Simply" ? Yeah, that. They are really using WoW ONLY to fund themselves, regardless of how the game quality changes.

[TheCheat]

Who fucking cares



This is good for some people who want to play with their friends and before couldn't because of the server types they played on... like me, switching my Warlock onto the server, Boulderfist; where all my buddies and some of my horde guys are on.

[PokemonMaster]

Who fucking cares



This is good for some people who want to play with their friends and before couldn't because of the server types they played on... like me, switching my Warlock onto the server, Boulderfist; where all my buddies and some of my horde guys are on.

Pvp has been able to switch to Pve since implementation of realm transfers.

[PsiRedEye22]

See that word over there? "Probably" ? Yeah, that.

Oh, and you see that other word? "Simply" ? Yeah, that. They are really using WoW ONLY to fund themselves, regardless of how the game quality changes.

That's the plan for business. Make something to make money. If you don't like the direction the game is going in, quit like I did months ago. But you won't quit. You're a weak person who needs a fake world to escape the real one, much like I did.

[Franky2toes]

Pve>Pvp probably wont be to bad. Its either gonna be good pvpers leaving to get into a more competitive BG. And that means more serious pvpers for the realm to play with. And if people who suck at pvp or carebears transfer to pvp they will see pretty fast how much they suck and probably transfer back off.

But I dont care. I pvp on a pve server and most of the hardcore pvpers on the server are leaving for better servers now that they are open. Some even reactivated their account so they can transfer. I'm actually kinda sad :( sucks these pvpers wont be on here even though I didnt chat with them much but I hope my server doesnt die. Well guess makes it that much easier for me to get higher arena ratings. Eh.

[PokemonMaster]

That's the plan for business. Make something to make money. If you don't like the direction the game is going in, quit like I did months ago. But you won't quit. You're a weak person who needs a fake world to escape the real one, much like I did.

Thanks Dr. Phil :wave:

[sKin]

May I ask, what does it matter really? If you don't wanna transfer you're PvE over to PvP... don't?

[PokemonMaster]

May I ask, what does it matter really? If you don't wanna transfer you're PvE over to PvP... don't?

It's simply harder leveling on a PvP server than PvE.

You may say "I leveled on both and they were equally difficult!" But nonetheless, you're one person. A multitude of GMs have said it's more difficult.

[PsiRedEye22]

It's simply harder leveling on a PvP server than PvE.

You may say "I leveled on both and they were equally difficult!" But nonetheless, you're one person. A multitude of GMs have said it's more difficult.

That doesn't explain why you care so much. So a bunch of level 70 carebear fags get to do the same thing as 70 hardcore fags and camp people all day in Ashenvale who they kill in 1 hit. PvP is so broken on WoW anyways, this transfer decision is like pissing on a steaming pile of shit.

[PokemonMaster]

That doesn't explain why you care so much. So a bunch of level 70 carebear fags get to do the same thing as 70 hardcore fags and camp people all day in Ashenvale who they kill in 1 hit. PvP is so broken on WoW anyways, this transfer decision is like pissing on a steaming pile of shit.

Uhh...because I leveled on a PvP server?

[PsiRedEye22]

That's fine. You don't have to worry about getting ganked. It seems that your only objection is that you have to play on the same server as people that didn't work as hard as you did for it.