Does Anyone Think BASEBALL Season Lasts Entirely Too Long?

[x1_nick_1x]

It seems like baseball season lasts forever. It started so long ago I can't even remember when. I'm tired of turning on sportscenter trying to watch some good football plays, and it's interruped by stupid ass baseball. I don't care about baseball. Anyone feeling this?

[atreyu_2020]

Being a Pirates fan, the season seems twice as long...it fucking SUCKS.

[snyderman]

I always thought baseball was just for people from the northeast. The rest of the country prefers football, as god intended.

[x1_nick_1x]

I've tried and tried and tried to be a Pirates fan. Being from the Burgh and all. But I'm disguested with them. I hate the Pirates. HOW THE HELL.........are you gonna get rid of Jason Bay, Jose Bautista, and Xavier Nady all in the same season?

They'll probly get rid of Nate McClouth next. So no, I am not a pirates fan. I'll stick with the Steelers and the Pens...because whether they win, or lose every game they have, they are atleast managed correctly.

[atreyu_2020]

I've tried and tried and tried to be a Pirates fan. Being from the Burgh and all. But I'm disguested with them. I hate the Pirates. HOW THE HELL.........are you gonna get rid of Jason Bay, Jose Bautista, and Xavier Nady all in the same season?

They'll probly get rid of Nate McClouth next. So no, I am not a pirates fan. I'll stick with the Steelers and the Pens...because whether they win, or lose every game they have, they are atleast managed correctly.

In the Pirates defense Nady was in the last year of his contract, no way was he re-signing with us. Jason Bay had one more year left then he was gone. So they figured they might as well get something for them when they would get nothing for them after their contracts were up. Bautista...well, has potential, but mental issues. Hell of a defenseman.

Naw, they're going to lock McClouth up and give him a nice extension. The Pirates are primarily want to build their team around three people, Freddy Sanchez, Nate McClouth, and Ryan Doumit. Everything else is fair game.

In other words, it's the same scheme they tried to have with Bay, Wilson, and Sanchez, and we're still at square one.

[x1_nick_1x]

The Pirates are hopeless. We could have kept Bay and Nady by paying them. That's it. The pirates are the stingiest team, maybe other than Florida. They won't be winning anything anytime soon........

[atreyu_2020]

They wouldn't have signed with us man, they were gone. It's all about Doumit/McClouth.

[Frood]

It's not that the season is too long, it's that theres too many games. In Football, every game matters. In Baseball, you can slack off for a month and still make the playoffs, and it leads to players not trying their hardest.
Also, it's boring, and because there's so many games, it's always hogging ESPN.

[High On PCP]

Too many games, imo.







That's why I think people, in general, enjoy football more. Every game counts A LOT.

In football, if you fuck up and blow one game... that could have SERIOUS repercussions on your season as a whole(especially on the college level, which to me has always been more entertaining than NFL).



In baseball, it doesn't really matter if you lose a couple 40, 50, 60 games or so.... and to me that's why baseball is bullshit.

That's the same downfall with hockey as well. What, 82 regular season games? The Red Wings, this years Stanley Cup champions had 21 losses. 21 freaking losses. How the fuck can you act like individual games mean dick if you can lose 21 times and still be dubbed the best team?


As a fan, that would suck.... knowing that each individual game you watch doesn't really account for much.






That's all just my opinion at least.


edit- fucking frood..... ruined my post.

[x1_nick_1x]

Eh, I agree that there's too many baseball games, but baseball is a boring sport....imo, anyway, just because there is too much time of standing around between pitches. It's not a very eventful sport.

Hockey, yes there's alot of games, but it's an intense sport with constant action.

[atreyu_2020]

Having a lot of games in hockey also results to more injuries too. Yeah I know injuries can happen at any time, but let's not compare the physical combat between baseball and hockey.

[High On PCP]

Hockey, yes there's alot of games, but it's an intense sport with constant action.

You missed the point.



If you can lose over 25% of your games and still be number 1, your sport is fucked up.

[x1_nick_1x]

You missed the point.



If you can lose over 25% of your games and still be number 1, your sport is fucked up.

You can lose over 25% of your games in football and still be number one. Heck you can lose 50% of your games and still make the playoffs. Pittsburgh went 9-7 3 years ago and won the superbowl. (I figured I'd squeeze that in there since I'm a Steelers fan) but it's relevant to the point anyway.

[Just Spurplin]

Yeah, baseball has way too many games.

But on the flip side, I think football has too few. Yeah it makes games more important, but also means it's less about which team is the best and more about which team got lucky.

To PCP, yeah the Red Wings had 21 losses, but they had 51 wins. The Buccaneers made it to the playoffs with 9 wins. If they had lost one more, a team would have been in by only winning 50% of their games. 16 games is nowhere near enough, and either is 1 game per week. Yeah it's physical, but it's competitive sports. It's supposed to be hard on the body.

Sports need to find a better balance. You should at least be playing each team once.

[sublimej311]

Yeah, baseball has way too many games.

But on the flip side, I think football has too few. Yeah it makes games more important, but also means it's less about which team is the best and more about which team got lucky.
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There is enough injury's from football as is. Besides, although the regular season is only four months most of those players are exhausted and their bodies need to take a break by the end. And I can hardly catch all the games I want already.

[Just Spurplin]

There is enough injury's from football as is. Besides, although the regular season is only four months most of those players are exhausted and their bodies need to take a break by the end. And I can hardly catch all the games I want already.
If they're exhausted then they need better conditioning. There is no way one game a week is the max these guys can withstand. They could do two. It might be a little hard at first, but their bodies would adjust. It's not like they are spending the week in between games resting, they are getting their asses kicked at practice. More games would just be less time exhausting yourself at practice and more time on game day.

Playing half the league once should not be considered a legitimate season.

[Shymega]

It's not that the season is too long, it's that theres too many games. In Football, every game matters. In Baseball, you can slack off for a month and still make the playoffs, and it leads to players not trying their hardest.
Also, it's boring, and because there's so many games, it's always hogging ESPN.

I agree. They play a game almost every single day.

Not only that but not enough teams make the playoffs, and the ones that do are always the usual suspects for the most part.

[Shymega]

You missed the point.



If you can lose over 25% of your games and still be number 1, your sport is fucked up.

No not really because everyone else lost more than 25%, so by that it means they truly are the #1 team.

And over an 82 game season you have injuries, players sick, players suspended ect..so it's not like you always have your best team or are always playing your best. Same goes for every sport.

[x1_nick_1x]

If they're exhausted then they need better conditioning. There is no way one game a week is the max these guys can withstand. They could do two. It might be a little hard at first, but their bodies would adjust. It's not like they are spending the week in between games resting, they are getting their asses kicked at practice. More games would just be less time exhausting yourself at practice and more time on game day.

Playing half the league once should not be considered a legitimate season.

Football season is fine the way it is. They're working on adding more games and getting rid of a few preseason games, so that is good. But this is just not true.

Better conditioning? These are some of the finest conditioned athletes in the world. You can't get much more conditioned than this, and conditioning has little to do with it. Every time a player gets hit, it's equivilant to being in a car accident traveling anywhere from 15-35 miles an hour. That takes a major toll on the body and has nothing to do with cardiovascular, which is what conditioning focuses on.

Practice is where they critique their performance and tweak things to be a more efficient team. They don't take huge hits in practice like they do in games.

[AsHopeDies]

The length of schedule vs. games won argument is stupid. Look at the standings, of the 6 divisions 2 of the leaders are more than 5 games ahead. They've played 140 some-odd games and the lead is between 1 and 3 games in most divisions. With pitching the way it is, a decrease in games played and an increase in time between games would drastically change the game of baseball. For instance, take the best team in the game, we'll say the Angels for arguments sake, and one of the worst teams in baseball, the SF Giants. In any other sport, you could say, "who would win that game?" and the answer would be "the Angels." But, in baseball, it's going to be "who would win that game?" and the response would be "who's pitching?" If Lincecum is throwing for the Giants...they have a chance against any team in the MLB, especially if the other team isn't throwing their ace.

Point being? Baseball is a game of numbers, of percentages. A baseball fan/purest would argue with someone who says nothing in a game is exciting, they would say that EVERY PITCH is exciting. So, obviously, they would argue that all 162 games are needed. Is it because that's the way it is or because it needs to be? Who cares. I love the length of the season. I love guys being able to go on the 60 day DL and still come back and make a difference. I love playing 159 games and having the final 3 game series of the season determine who goes into the playoffs and who goes home. I love teams playing 162 games and being tied and having to play a 1 game playoff to determine who keeps playing and who goes home. It's amazing.

The people who think it's too long don't really like the game anyway, they just want it off their TV. And, sorry to say it, baseball fans don't care about those people.

[sublimej311]

If they're exhausted then they need better conditioning. There is no way one game a week is the max these guys can withstand. They could do two. It might be a little hard at first, but their bodies would adjust. It's not like they are spending the week in between games resting, they are getting their asses kicked at practice. More games would just be less time exhausting yourself at practice and more time on game day.

Playing half the league once should not be considered a legitimate season.

I also think the season is just fine. When I say their bodies are "exhausted" not only do I mean from the practice as well as the weekly game, but I am mainly referring to the small and sometimes large injuries that build up over the season. Could just be a sprained ankle or a bruised rib, but they still need to rest their bodies before it worsens.

[Shymega]

I think we all can agree that college football is done the worst? You lose 1 game and your run at a title is done. They only play 11-12 games a year, and they still not have done a post season type of tourney. Even if it's just 4 teams in the mini tourney they need to do it. There just needs to be a bigger window for the amount of teams to compete for a championship.

[kevinsmith]

It seems like baseball season lasts forever. It started so long ago I can't even remember when. I'm tired of turning on sportscenter trying to watch some good football plays, and it's interruped by stupid ass baseball. I don't care about baseball. Anyone feeling this?

Interesting, I think ESPN focuses way too much on football. I remember trying to find out some baseball news when I couldn't see my game because I was out of town, and they were blathering on about football shit and it wasn't even the season yet.

It's not that the season is too long, it's that theres too many games. In Football, every game matters. In Baseball, you can slack off for a month and still make the playoffs, and it leads to players not trying their hardest.
Also, it's boring, and because there's so many games, it's always hogging ESPN.

Baseball is a distance run, football is a sprint. It's about who has the ability to hold their shit together all season.



Eh, I agree that there's too many baseball games, but baseball is a boring sport....imo, anyway, just because there is too much time of standing around between pitches. It's not a very eventful sport.


See, I think football is too slow sometimes. It's a bunch of 300 pound men lumbering around in at best five yard increments between group hugs.

[sprak_]

You missed the point.



If you can lose over 25% of your games and still be number 1, your sport is fucked up.

The last 3 superbowl winners have lost at least 25% of their regular season games. There goes your whole argument.


Short season + 1 game elimination tournament = luck plays a bigger role in determining the winner.


People enjoy football more because it's a bunch of monsters running around trying to decapitate one another. Baseball is a more cerebral game. You think people would stop caring about the NFL if they started playing 50 game seasons? Not a chance.

[Shymega]

The last 3 superbowl winners have lost at least 25% of their regular season games. There goes your whole argument.


Short season + 1 game elimination tournament = luck plays a bigger role in determining the winner.


People enjoy football more because it's a bunch of monsters running around trying to decapitate one another. Baseball is a more cerebral game. You think people would stop caring about the NFL if they started playing 50 game seasons? Not a chance.

In my opinion, I don't think people would stop caring, but the popularity of the sport would take a big blow. Reason being because football is based a lot around gambling/fantasy sports because it is so easy to follow (short season, Sunday games). It attracts a huge variety of followers, including females, young kids ect.. Once you take away that away, the sport becomes harder to follow, plus it loses it's aura of every game feeling like it's a big deal, and this would easily turn off a lot of casual fans.

I think football could use more games, like 20 in the NFL and 15-16 for college and it wouldn't be a big deal at all. But once you get up to the 50's like you said, you get weekday games, teams playing 2 times a week and overall it would lose a lot of that important feeling. It's really all just perception.

[moose]

If there were 50 games in an NFL season..... there would be no NFL. All the players would be retired by 25 because they would all be broken, dead people. They would literally die from that amount of punishment on the body.

[avix123]

Yes, it takes for fucking ever.

[sprak_]

In my opinion, I don't think people would stop caring, but the popularity of the sport would take a big blow. Reason being because football is based a lot around gambling/fantasy sports because it is so easy to follow (short season, Sunday games). It attracts a huge variety of followers, including females, young kids ect.. Once you take away that away, the sport becomes harder to follow, plus it loses it's aura of every game feeling like it's a big deal, and this would easily turn off a lot of casual fans.

I think football could use more games, like 20 in the NFL and 15-16 for college and it wouldn't be a big deal at all. But once you get up to the 50's like you said, you get weekday games, teams playing 2 times a week and overall it would lose a lot of that important feeling. It's really all just perception.


Good point about the gambling.

Forget about the 50 game seasons, that was hypothetical and would never really happen. Casual fans, especially girls or young kids, are not watching NFL games and thinking of how important each game is. That was my point.

If basketball or baseball had all their games on one day each week, the NFL would still be a lot more popular, because the game is more exciting to most people.

[Frood]

If they're exhausted then they need better conditioning. There is no way one game a week is the max these guys can withstand. They could do two. It might be a little hard at first, but their bodies would adjust. It's not like they are spending the week in between games resting, they are getting their asses kicked at practice. More games would just be less time exhausting yourself at practice and more time on game day.

Playing half the league once should not be considered a legitimate season.

You do know that after they retire many NFL players are completely destroyed right? For example, my Dad's met Ronny Lott (NFL Superbowl winner with the 49ers) because his daughter and my sister were friends, and the guy is uncapable of running, and he's not even 50. They strain their bodies for so many years, if they doubled the amount of games they played, most of theose guys would have to either retire after 2 years, or be dead by 40. They are truly at the limit.

[Sketcher]

There are definitely WAY too many baseball games in a season. There's just no excuse for that.

As for college football, how are they supposed to do it? They can't possibly play every team once because there are just too many teams. A single season would last two years. And they really can't play more games because you have to take into consideration that the players are COLLEGE STUDENTS. Football is only part time for them.

Although I do agree that the way they do the ranking system is kinda fucked up. There's probably a dozen unranked teams that would kill any team in the top ten but never get the chance to do so.

[navid]

nfl should have 20 games, thats a sweet number.
mlb should probably just disband, but since that unfortunately wont happen, fuck it i dont care, i dont watch it

[sublimej311]

nfl should have 20 games, thats a sweet number.
mlb should probably just disband, but since that unfortunately wont happen, fuck it i dont care, i dont watch it

20 is actually a pretty odd number for the regular season. There are 16 teams per conference and 16 regular season games per team, it fits nicely. The teams in the Superbowl will reach 20 games so there is your sweet number for ya.

[davo canavo]

I think MLB seasons should be no more than 100 games long. It's just completely ridiculous, like others said, that the whole fucking team can slack off for several months, lose like 40 games, and still make it to the Pennant. It's stupid. Hockey's fine with the number of games, but they need to be better organized. We (Wings) play Nashville like 8 times a season, where as we face Toronto once. Same with Montreal. And it sucks 'cause those are the teams that are fun to watch. I mean, any game is fun to watch, but I can only stare at Minnesota for so long. They're fucking boring, I'd rather see some classic Original Six games.

[Shymega]

I think MLB seasons should be no more than 100 games long. It's just completely ridiculous, like others said, that the whole fucking team can slack off for several months, lose like 40 games, and still make it to the Pennant. It's stupid. Hockey's fine with the number of games, but they need to be better organized. We (Wings) play Nashville like 8 times a season, where as we face Toronto once. Same with Montreal. And it sucks 'cause those are the teams that are fun to watch. I mean, any game is fun to watch, but I can only stare at Minnesota for so long. They're fucking boring, I'd rather see some classic Original Six games.

They changed the scheduling in the NHL.

[davo canavo]

They changed the scheduling in the NHL.

Hardly. We're still gonna see Toronto and Montreal only once each. Yet we still face Nashville six fucking times. I understand they're division rivals but that's just retarded. I think they should work it out so you play the top eight teams (either of last year, or through some sort of computer simulation) of the opposite conference at least twice (probably thrice). That would make at least 16 games with possible Stanley Cup contenders. Then you should play the lower eight at least once each. Then you have, at the most, 59 games to divide throughout your own conference. That's four with each team, and three left over if it's even. Or say five with each team from your own division, then four with all the leftovers, excluding one team, with which you'd play three.

Basically, I think we need to play every single team in the league twice, then divide the leftovers in whatever way necessary.

[Fireal87]

Jays for the win, Alex.