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Pat McCrotch
09-14-2008, 03:10 AM
Yup... I Prefer Guitar Hero, they just got more songs that i like (not a huge metal fan). Also the bands i dont even like have the one song i like by them, so... win

Rootraz
09-14-2008, 03:14 AM
Both, but I'm only buying the Rock Band 2 disc because the Guitar Hero instruments look/have been much better.

PsiRedEye22
09-14-2008, 03:16 AM
Fuck 'em both. If I want to listen to music, I'll listen to music. I don't want to work for it.

Krippled By Kush
09-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Yeah, I was really upset with the instruments, especially the guitar on Rock Band.

PokemonMaster
09-14-2008, 12:30 PM
Anyone who didn't pick GH:WT is a nigger imo.

This Guy
09-14-2008, 12:52 PM
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=273043


but GHWT for sure

Shaster
09-14-2008, 01:00 PM
I said fuck em. Sure guitar hero's fun until you realize it's a waste of time.

used_me
09-14-2008, 01:16 PM
:dunce::dunce::dunce:I said fuck em. Sure guitar hero's fun until you realize it's a waste of time.

LOL. All video games are a waste of time if you put it that way. They are supposed to be fun, and that is all. If you are having fun then it is nota waste of time luls.

Doh616
09-14-2008, 01:23 PM
:dunce::dunce::dunce:

LOL. All video games are a waste of time if you put it that way. They are supposed to be fun, and that is all. If you are having fun then it is nota waste of time luls.

I agree everyone says "play a REAL guitar LOSER LULZ NUUB!!!!" If you put it that way then take any FPS, and tell them to buy a real gun and kill your enemies. Or any sports game, tell them to get off your ass and play football or what ever sport. Sure I guess its a waste of time but thats for ALL video games not just music based ones.

Oh yeah I forgot I voted for GH:WT, fuck Rock Band its too boring and I hate the style of the notes.

PsiRedEye22
09-14-2008, 01:26 PM
I agree everyone says "play a REAL guitar LOSER LULZ NUUB!!!!" If you put it that way then take any FPS, and tell them to buy a real gun and kill your enemies. Or any sports game, tell them to get off your ass and play football or what ever sport. Sure I guess its a waste of time but thats for ALL video games not just music based ones.

Yes, but we have a unique situation here. We can all agree that the Rock Band instruments are not much harder than air guitar/singing in the shower/drumming on a 10 gallon plastic pickle tin, correct? (Unless you play on expert, in which case you're one of them crazies). So essentially, you're paying 80+ dollars to pretend to play your favorite songs that you can easily get for free (or probably already own).

PokemonMaster
09-14-2008, 01:47 PM
Yes, but we have a unique situation here. We can all agree that the Rock Band instruments are not much harder than air guitar/singing in the shower/drumming on a 10 gallon plastic pickle tin, correct? (Unless you play on expert, in which case you're one of them crazies). So essentially, you're paying 80+ dollars to pretend to play your favorite songs that you can easily get for free (or probably already own).

Singing with a mic, playing on a looks-kinda-real guitar, and a multi-piece drum set feels a helluvalot more realistic than those things.

rand0m
09-14-2008, 02:00 PM
I don't mind playing Guitar Hero, the concept is nice, its fun to play and can be great with friends.

However when it comes down to people who spend hours memorising the finger positions and perfecting the hardest song to get perfect 100% whatever ... in that case I tell them to grow the fuck up. Rather than waste months perfecting that one song, I'd tell them to learn to play the fucking real instrument, because at least they will get something out of that.

Playing a real guitar even at a lower scale is miles fucking better than getting a 100% in a GH song. Sure play GH for fun, just like all the other games, but if you turn that game into a fucking work out your a fucking idiot.

paranoia
09-14-2008, 02:02 PM
GHWT, because it has 3 fucking Tool songs on it!!!

Doh616
09-14-2008, 02:11 PM
I don't mind playing Guitar Hero, the concept is nice, its fun to play and can be great with friends.

However when it comes down to people who spend hours memorising the finger positions and perfecting the hardest song to get perfect 100% whatever ... in that case I tell them to grow the fuck up. Rather than waste months perfecting that one song, I'd tell them to learn to play the fucking real instrument, because at least they will get something out of that.

Playing a real guitar even at a lower scale is miles fucking better than getting a 100% in a GH song. Sure play GH for fun, just like all the other games, but if you turn that game into a fucking work out your a fucking idiot.

I see what you mean but your overlooking it. The people who are insanely good like iamchris4life, jameslikecoulter and all those people are naturally good. Of course when they started out they weren't great but it didn't take them long to get good. I play on expert and thats the only way I can really play because everything else is boring and simple. I play guitar in real life and learned how to play years before guitar hero was even conceived. You can't say that turning a game into a work out is being an "idiot" because like a lot of other games there are prizes and money. Now spending time getting good at a game so you can win cash isn't that stupid. My friend has won lots of money from tournaments.

Also people don't memorized the song, they just know how to read it. It all comes down to that, and this is coming from someone who knows how to play the game. Its all just simple rises and falls of the scale. Its rhythm which comes naturally when you hear the song. Just like if someone is amazing at FPS they know what to do and how to do it. Oh and for the record guitar hero is no where near the level of difficulty of a real guitar, thats why a lot of people are good at it. If I spent as much time on real guitar as I have on guitar hero I would be 100 times better than I am now.

Yes, but we have a unique situation here. We can all agree that the Rock Band instruments are not much harder than air guitar/singing in the shower/drumming on a 10 gallon plastic pickle tin, correct? (Unless you play on expert, in which case you're one of them crazies). So essentially, you're paying 80+ dollars to pretend to play your favorite songs that you can easily get for free (or probably already own).

Well I play on expert and the people who don't strive to at least try expert have wasted their money. But even then those people don't care and just want to have a good time with their friends. For me though its more competitive that fun. I still have fun but I get angry when I miss notes or screw up really badly. I guess its just a matter of opinion.

rand0m
09-14-2008, 04:27 PM
Guitar Hero fanboy much? I mean you managed to fire off a few 'expert' losers on the spot and you pretty much ignored the logic I laid out.

I see what you mean but your overlooking it. The people who are insanely good like iamchris4life, jameslikecoulter and all those people are naturally good. Of course when they started out they weren't great but it didn't take them long to get good. I play on expert and thats the only way I can really play because everything else is boring and simple.

Right, I don't care 'what you play on' if your playing it and having fun whats the big deal. I never said I have a problem with people playing the game.

I play guitar in real life and learned how to play years before guitar hero was even conceived. You can't say that turning a game into a work out is being an "idiot" because like a lot of other games there are prizes and money. Now spending time getting good at a game so you can win cash isn't that stupid. My friend has won lots of money from tournaments.

See I have nothing wrong with FPS/RTS/Fighters tournaments, becuase they require skill and knowledge of the game, reaction times and planning because you know ... each round isn't exactly the fucking same. Guitar Hero is memorise the button seqences ... hit them. There is no skill other than to just learn the same sequance and play them over and over ... its repetative and useless.

Also people don't memorized the song, they just know how to read it. It all comes down to that, and this is coming from someone who knows how to play the game. Its all just simple rises and falls of the scale. Its rhythm which comes naturally when you hear the song.

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Disregard this if somehow they made the song random each time so you actually had to 'read' the seqence. However there is a limit to the amount a brain can see and react to, to overcome this limit our brain has learned to 'remember' stuff.

Seeing as these guys must play the song over and over ... they start to memorise the pattern. There is no 'reaction time skill' or anything, it just comes down to whoevers sat down and played the song through the most times.

Show me someone that played like that for the 'first time' and I'd been impressed, however all these idiots that spent months perfecting the hardest song by playing it over and over have only impressed me by how much time they've wasted.

PsiRedEye22
09-14-2008, 06:16 PM
I still have fun but I get angry when I miss notes or screw up really badly. I guess its just a matter of opinion.

I'll agree to that at least, I have had my fair share of megarage at game competitions.

Doh616
09-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Guitar Hero fanboy much? I mean you managed to fire off a few 'expert' losers on the spot and you pretty much ignored the logic I laid out.

I wouldn't consider me being a fanboy of anything, I just find it highly ironic when people bash games that they don't play and know very little about.

Right, I don't care 'what you play on' if your playing it and having fun whats the big deal. I never said I have a problem with people playing the game.

As I don't have a problem with other games either, its what people say about it and how they make it seem like their game is harder and takes more "skill."

See I have nothing wrong with FPS/RTS/Fighters tournaments, becuase they require skill and knowledge of the game, reaction times and planning because you know ... each round isn't exactly the fucking same. Guitar Hero is memorise the button seqences ... hit them. There is no skill other than to just learn the same sequance and play them over and over ... its repetative and useless.

So how do they require more skill than Guitar Hero? With FPS you have a mouse and keyboard which seems much easier to pick up and play than Guitar Hero (depending on your skill level). Fighting tournament are simply button mashing which in a way is the same as Guitar Hero. Every round isn't the same for Guitar Hero, that would be highly naive to say. That would be like saying every round of Counter Strike is the same because you play on the same map, or if you use the same Fighting Character in a game.

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Disregard this if somehow they made the song random each time so you actually had to 'read' the seqence. However there is a limit to the amount a brain can see and react to, to overcome this limit our brain has learned to 'remember' stuff.

Umm no, actually on the contrary. Man's brain can only hold 5-10 bits of information at a time before you forget about it so that just ignorant. Here is a prime example of what I mean, the other day they came out with a Metallica DLC for GH3. It has 11 songs on it and all of them have A LOT of notes. Tell me this, in the 2 days it has been out your telling me people memorized the entire song in less than a day and they FC'd (Full Combo) all the songs? GuitarPhenom (http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=200054&group=4&game=6&diff=4) has successfully FC'd all of these songs in less than 2 days of release (scroll to bottom to see his scores for new DLC). These songs are not easy and are really long. It wouldn't be humanly possible for someone to memorize 18,000+ notes in under 48 hours.

Seeing as these guys must play the song over and over ... they start to memorise the pattern. There is no 'reaction time skill' or anything, it just comes down to whoevers sat down and played the song through the most times.

Nope, there have been a bunch of people who have gotten a sightread FC, which simply means they play a song for their FIRST time and 100% without over-strumming.

Show me someone that played like that for the 'first time' and I'd been impressed, however all these idiots that spent months perfecting the hardest song by playing it over and over have only impressed me by how much time they've wasted.

Anyone who is at a professional level of any video game are idiots and have wasted their time? I believe if you want to be pro in any game you would spend months perfecting it am I right? Hell if you want to talk about wasted time, don't even get me started on WoW.:lol:

Krippled By Kush
09-14-2008, 06:32 PM
Eve eveorybodiez!

psychomonkey62
09-14-2008, 07:07 PM
I think GH:WT looks much better (RB2 is basically RB 1.5, and they actually cut some features for no reason) but I'm getting both. But the Wal-Mart I went to today was sold out of RB2....

Frostdaddy
09-15-2008, 01:40 AM
Fucking both. Why should we have to choose?

hellnback
09-15-2008, 07:36 AM
i'm buying both. i just bought RB2 yesterday. i got lucky finding it. the damn game was sold out everywhere. none of the gamestops had it anymore or even the retail stores. i went to the last place, game crazy, and they still had one left. i'll admit that the set list is horrible but the cool thing is that now even the dlc songs from the original RB are practically fused into the game through the make your own set list function or the other mystery setlist function. also you can transfer songs that are part of the original RB and save them onto the 360 HD to play on RB2.

what sux is that inside the game is a code to download 20 free songs. only thing they don't tell you what the dlc is. anyway it's not even available yet. according to harmonix the dlc won't be available until later this year. probably when RB2 finally comes out on the other consoles. that's bull. it tells you to go to the rockband website where you enter the code found in the game booklet. once entered another code is given to you. from there you go onto xbox live and enter redeem the code. but at the moment the website tells you the songs will be available at a later day. i just wanna play the ac/dc song but supposedly it's the last song in the game. the first song to play is "eye of the tiger" by survivor.

as for GHWT, that's the one i'm waiting for badly. a lot of the bands in that game are mulitple songs on it. that's why it's called world tour. that's why tool and linkin park among others have more than one song in the game.

recently they released the entire metallica album "death magnetic" for GH3 but it's also compatible with GHWT once that comes out.
and over on RB/RB2 this tuesday they'll be releasing an entire megadeth album "peace sells. but who's buying".

Ranger33
09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
Since I only have a Wii and already have a GH3 controller, I will probably get GHWT since DLC is looking unlikely as well as compatible instruments.

Hopefully the music creator and downloads will be fully fleshed out on the Wii version.

Also, people who argue about video game skill should get a grip, the games are just supposed to be fun and no one cares how good you are. Ive played games all my life but I never brag about how good I am, not even on the Internet.

PsiRedEye22
09-15-2008, 06:14 PM
I've played games all my life but I never brag about how good I am, not even on the Internet.

You're missing out.

PokemonMaster
09-15-2008, 07:21 PM
You're missing out.

STFU, I bet you can't even beat DMC on Dante Must Die.

PsiRedEye22
09-15-2008, 07:21 PM
STFU, I bet you can't even beat DMC on Dante Must Die.

Joke's on you, I don't even know what that means.

sKin
09-15-2008, 08:39 PM
Rock Band 2 cuz I love Harmonix.

Guitar Hero: World Tour cuz I wanna make some music.

ChocoChipCamo
09-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Joke's on you, I don't even know what that means.

Devil May Cry (any of them) include the following difficulty modes:

Easy
Normal
Hard
Dante Must Die
Heaven or Hell
Hell and Hell (new to the series)

On Dante Must Die mode, the enemies not only have more defense, but more attack power as well. On top of this, they can perform Devil Trigger and become invincible while dishing out stronger attacks. Bosses also have new added attacks and old ones are upgraded in power.


Anyhoo, I voted for Guitar Hero: World Tour for one reason and one reason only: Create your own song. I imagine people are going to be making some sickass songs daily using this. I mean just look at how many fan-made custom soundtracks there are for GH1 and 2. Now it's finally an official mode? How awesome is that?

I also agree with Doh 616 about how people who say "quit playing guitar hero and learn real guitar" need to sit down and shut the fuck up for several reasons that I've already stated in a previous (though somewhat old) thread. I play GH and RB with friends almost every Friday night and it's good fun which doesn't require you to practice several hours a day to get good at. It's just an easy pick up and play party game. Unless you're one of those people that Doh mentioned, who are in a sense, naturally good, but they also spend time memorizing the songs and finger movements. Sight-reading will only take you so far. But it's not a big deal, just a hobby for them.

PokemonMaster
09-15-2008, 08:59 PM
Joke's on you, I don't even know what that means.

What about SSB on very hard?

EH?

EHHHH?

Shaster
09-15-2008, 09:33 PM
:dunce::dunce::dunce:

LOL. All video games are a waste of time if you put it that way. They are supposed to be fun, and that is all. If you are having fun then it is nota waste of time luls.

Yeah that was the joke; All video games are a waste of time and just pure entertainment but guitar hero and rock band wins the award for the biggest loser excuse to play video games. I'd rather pretend to kill someone with a gun than to be an expert at a plastic guitar but, hey, whatever makes you happy :rolleyes::rolleyes:.

psychomonkey62
09-15-2008, 10:04 PM
Yeah that was the joke; All video games are a waste of time and just pure entertainment but guitar hero and rock band wins the award for the biggest loser excuse to play video games. I'd rather pretend to kill someone with a gun than to be an expert at a plastic guitar but, hey, whatever makes you happy :rolleyes::rolleyes:.

YouTube - John Petrucci Speaking the Truth

Shaster
09-15-2008, 10:38 PM
YouTube - John Petrucci Speaking the Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oFgefAhq0o&feature=related)

YouTube - Iraqi Incredible Hulk

Doh616
09-17-2008, 11:04 AM
Oh shit it looks like a lot of people have been memorizing Rock Band 2's guitar already. Since the three days of release 76 of the 84 songs have been 100% on expert (Guitar) and 58 of the 84 have been 100% on drums expert. Damn that's a lot of memorizing! (http://rockband.scorehero.com/top_scores.php?game=2&platform=2&size=1&team=0&group=1&diff=4)

psychomonkey62
09-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Oh shit it looks like a lot of people have been memorizing Rock Band 2's guitar already. Since the three days of release 76 of the 84 songs have been 100% on expert (Guitar) and 58 of the 84 have been 100% on drums expert. Damn that's a lot of memorizing! (http://rockband.scorehero.com/top_scores.php?game=2&platform=2&size=1&team=0&group=1&diff=4)

"Memorizing?"

Riiiiight......:squint:

Doh616
09-17-2008, 08:22 PM
"Memorizing?"

Riiiiight......:squint:

No I was trying to see if rand0m would respond to my previous post about Guitar Hero and how it requires less skill then other games (his argument). He was saying how people play songs countless times to 100% and I was saying how people who are amazing at it can FC songs really fast because they are naturally good at it. Check page 2 for my full argument.