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Darkicon
09-19-2008, 11:54 AM
Soooo guys, whos playing it? I am a ex-wow player and just rerolled into warhammer. Wondering if anyone here is playing it. Also, wtf do you think of it?
I Like Me
09-19-2008, 01:46 PM
I'm playing a Chaos Marauder. It's fun. I'm kind of upset there are no video options. I also find it isn't as straight forward as WoW. Kind of confusing.
Haven't heard too much good about it...right now I'm not gettin it
Zuken
09-19-2008, 05:20 PM
my computer cant handle it at this point. but im trying to get a better graphics card right now. plan on being either a Marauder or a Disciple of Khaine
cobra_man
09-19-2008, 06:01 PM
I'm playing a Chaos Marauder. It's fun. I'm kind of upset there are no video options. I also find it isn't as straight forward as WoW. Kind of confusing.
There are video options.
I bought it and so far I'm having a blast.
Darkicon
09-19-2008, 06:19 PM
At first it seems to be more of the same, as compared to wow, and it kinda is in few ways. However, the more you play it the better it seems to get. You need to look at the big picture and understand it, which takes a bit of time. Then you will enjoy it more. Also remember when Wow came out, it sucked... it was bugged and dull. Now look at it!! So ya in a few months time IF the devs listen to its fanbase, there will be nothing but good in warhammer.
Also however remember that unlike wow, warhammer is about PVP. Sure there is alot of PVE, but the real game is in guilds and PVP action... I think?!
As far as the video goes. If your comp can handle WOW at best settings, then you should be able to play WH at balanced settings. Cause that is where I am at.
Spence
09-19-2008, 07:04 PM
So is it worth getting is it better then WoW just say that
Wattle
09-19-2008, 09:59 PM
Fucking loving it, I'm lacking behind my guildmates from a community I belong to since I've been busy this week but their around level 20 and all got mounts atm.
Black Orcs 4 lyfe.
Suwagara
09-19-2008, 10:03 PM
Fucking loving it, I'm lacking behind my guildmates from a community I belong to since I've been busy this week but their around level 20 and all got mounts atm.
Black Orcs 4 lyfe.
How are they already lvl 20?! I'm lvl 9 and I thought I played too much.
Played 25 + hours in OB before I gave up.
God damn't WoW. You totally ruined all other MMORPG's for me.
Played 25 + hours in OB before I gave up.
God damn't WoW. You totally ruined all other MMORPG's for me.
Yea WoW ruined everything pretty much...whats the monthly fee for warhammer?
cobra_man
09-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Yea WoW ruined everything pretty much...whats the monthly fee for warhammer?
Same as WoW which is around $16 with tax if I remember right.
Bleh I'll pass on that...no games worth that much $ a month
Caption
09-20-2008, 01:34 AM
EverQuest 2 > Warhammer Online
EverQuest 2 > World of Warcraft
Just look at every different feature EQ2 has. All the different things you can do, the status points, PvP gear, gaining titles, buying titles, tons of raids, tons of gear sets, thousands upon thousands of quests, superior graphics (the game was built for the future, upon the original release if you tried to set it to the highest settings you would actually get an error saying "There is no computer able to run these settings."), 180 achievement points, which = thousands and thousands of different ways of customizing your characters. A mentor system. The more capped out characters you have, the more EXP your alts gain,
Example, let's say I have four level 80 characters, any character below 80 that I choose to level will gain a 40% boost in experience. No MMORPG out can compare to EverQuest 2 with over all features. That's a fact. WHO isn't going to compete with EQ2. The only reason WoW has more subscribers is because of that simple fact, 85% of gamers can't comprehend the complexity of Ever Quest 2.
Warhammer and WoW are great games for kids/teenagers, don't get me wrong. EQ2 is more aimed at adults, in fact a large majority of the population is made up of people 20+. All really depends on what you like. If you like a simple game, go with WoW/Warhammer/Final Fantasy 11. If you want something that's actually challenging, and takes thought and skill to play, Ever Quest 2 is the way to go.
Although it's been out for a few years now (still the best graphics of ANY mmo out there including Warhammer, another fact) so if you were to buy it you'd be spending a pretty penny for all the expansions. Unless you can find a pack.
If anyone decides to play this game (On the Venekor server) hit me up in game. IGN: Soukabaan (74 shadowknight) and Proph (57 warden)
Hurblegeebie
09-20-2008, 02:10 AM
Bleh I'll pass on that...no games worth that much $ a month
Holy shit $16!!
If you can't afford that, you're in the wrong hobby my friend...
Wattle
09-20-2008, 02:12 AM
How are they already lvl 20?! I'm lvl 9 and I thought I played too much.
I'm not gonna lie, they play a shitload (pretty much all day from wake to sleep). I'm currently only level 10 which I got just a few minutes ago, but I'm fucking tired and gotta wake up early tomorrow.
But yeah, it'll be nice, once I get to 20 their just gonna give me 30g. :D
EverQuest 2 > Warhammer Online
EverQuest 2 > World of Warcraft
The only reasons I never even tried to get into it was...
a) way too many expansion packs = too much money.
b) none of my friends or people I know online play it.
c) the graphics are decent compared to latest MMORPG's.
d) it sounds way too complicated.
Darkicon
09-20-2008, 08:20 AM
So is it worth getting is it better then WoW just say that
To answer your question, yes its worth getting over wow IF you dont have wow. Reason why is wow has such a strong community filled with eliest asshole pricks that just starting the game now will be challenging. Groups will be hard to find, and if you don't learn your class super quick they will be quicker to label you a noob.
Thats generalized speaking though.
Warhammer community so far is pretty cool, and everyone is just starting out SO you won't be lonely on that long road to cap.
Holy shit $16!!
If you can't afford that, you're in the wrong hobby my friend...
I can afford it but if I can pay that much for WoW and from what I've heard so far WoW dominates it and I didn't think WoW was worth that money. Not that I can't afford it
aooga12
09-20-2008, 01:07 PM
^^^ need moar commas!
PsiRedEye22
09-20-2008, 02:24 PM
EverQuest 2 > Warhammer Online
EverQuest 2 > World of Warcraft
Just look at every different feature EQ2 has. All the different things you can do, the status points, PvP gear, gaining titles, buying titles, tons of raids, tons of gear sets, thousands upon thousands of quests, superior graphics (the game was built for the future, upon the original release if you tried to set it to the highest settings you would actually get an error saying "There is no computer able to run these settings."), 180 achievement points, which = thousands and thousands of different ways of customizing your characters. A mentor system. The more capped out characters you have, the more EXP your alts gain,
Example, let's say I have four level 80 characters, any character below 80 that I choose to level will gain a 40% boost in experience. No MMORPG out can compare to EverQuest 2 with over all features. That's a fact. WHO isn't going to compete with EQ2. The only reason WoW has more subscribers is because of that simple fact, 85% of gamers can't comprehend the complexity of Ever Quest 2.
Warhammer and WoW are great games for kids/teenagers, don't get me wrong. EQ2 is more aimed at adults, in fact a large majority of the population is made up of people 20+. All really depends on what you like. If you like a simple game, go with WoW/Warhammer/Final Fantasy 11. If you want something that's actually challenging, and takes thought and skill to play, Ever Quest 2 is the way to go.
Although it's been out for a few years now (still the best graphics of ANY mmo out there including Warhammer, another fact) so if you were to buy it you'd be spending a pretty penny for all the expansions. Unless you can find a pack.
If anyone decides to play this game (On the Venekor server) hit me up in game. IGN: Soukabaan (74 shadowknight) and Proph (57 warden)
You're completely wrong. Your opinion is actually wrong. I found EQ2 to be far easier to level in than WAR. In fact, if you get a ragtag group of idiots that fully understand the simon-says finishing move system, you can pretty much kill any boss without breaking a sweat. I have a level 68 Warden, and I have NEVER had trouble killing any instance boss in that game.
However, the crafting system in EQ2 is easily the best of the 3 games. Phenomenal, in fact. I love the crafting in EQ2 so much, that I actually played it for months. If it weren't for that, WoW totally edges out EQ2 in the "shit to do" category, and WAR dominates it fully in the "challenging" category. It sounds to me like you've played neither, and only EQ2.
High On PCP
09-20-2008, 02:39 PM
My friend was telling me, when you buy Warhammer, you only get 3 installations before you have to go buy a new copy.
Is that true?
used_me
09-20-2008, 02:49 PM
My friend was telling me, when you buy Warhammer, you only get 3 installations before you have to go buy a new copy.
Is that true?
If thats the case then im pretty sure you can call the company for more installs.
PsiRedEye22
09-20-2008, 03:03 PM
My friend was telling me, when you buy Warhammer, you only get 3 installations before you have to go buy a new copy.
Is that true?
That can't be true. The CD key is linked to a paid online account, there's no possible way you could be installing it for anyone other than yourself. Doing that for security would be completely useless.
break3r
09-20-2008, 04:05 PM
What are the pros and cons of Warhammer? How do you compare it to WoW? I cant decide whether to buy the new wow expansion or start fresh on this warhammer. I cant play wow anymore because I cant make it to raids. Is warhammer the same way with raids?
PsiRedEye22
09-20-2008, 05:15 PM
If you're deciding between just those 2, go with WoW.
break3r
09-20-2008, 05:30 PM
If you're deciding between just those 2, go with WoW.
Thing is when the WoW expansion comes out as soon as I'm done with all the quests and exploring, I'm out. So it will be only 1 month and I'm bored again.
PsiRedEye22
09-20-2008, 06:01 PM
Then you just answered your own question.
PsiRedEye22
09-20-2008, 10:50 PM
You're completely wrong. Your opinion is actually wrong. I found EQ2 to be far easier to level in than WAR. In fact, if you get a ragtag group of idiots that fully understand the simon-says finishing move system, you can pretty much kill any boss without breaking a sweat. I have a level 68 Warden, and I have NEVER had trouble killing any instance boss in that game.
However, the crafting system in EQ2 is easily the best of the 3 games. Phenomenal, in fact. I love the crafting in EQ2 so much, that I actually played it for months. If it weren't for that, WoW totally edges out EQ2 in the "shit to do" category, and WAR dominates it fully in the "challenging" category. It sounds to me like you've played neither, and only EQ2.
I'm double posting to revoke, once again, talking out of my ass. Apparently the class system has been reworked since I last played. There aren't four archtypes anymore. This may be promising. I'll start a Coercer.
I Like Me
09-20-2008, 11:03 PM
There are video options.
I bought it and so far I'm having a blast.
Unless they updated it, there were 3 options with basically no customization. It's annoying. I have a good computer, but when I see people fighting in the distance, it looks all choppy and shitty.
NMpwnsTX
09-21-2008, 02:12 PM
EQ2 is really fun if you have the community to go with it. if you had a guild of friends you know or people from another game eq2 is easily the best MMO out there because how big it is and complex.
the only real problem i had with eq2 was the fact that the worlds weren't seamless, you have to walk to certain places to get to the next zone. its all about zoning to the next place which kinda killed the whole adventure part for me. I love the idea of walking to one end of the world to the other without zoning.
Other than that the only thing i din't like about the new eq2 was wither or not i wanted to play on the pve servers or the pvp. the pvp server i have my character on now is vox and well the last time i played the population was kinda shitty. so i din't feel like leveling him up since it might be for no use if nobody played higher up.
i started an assassin on the higher pop pvp server and it made an already hard game to level in even harder. people run around in gank groups and if you don't have the right expansions you could never win against someone who did just because you don't get achievement points or skill points to put into a skill type tree like in wow. your character is basically gimped which i find to be totally messed up. thats gonna turn people away if they play just from the base of the game.
also the game relys heavily on you being in a community. ive tried to solo grind my character through eq2 and once you get above level 30 its almost impossible because the exp is so little even with bonus items that you can use to double your exp.
being in a group to level is not much different either to be honest. its a slow grind and if its already a struggle to level at 30 then i dont even wanna know what its like to grind at 50+.
Also if it takes asain power levelers 30 days to power level your character from 1-80 for 550$ you know that the grind to 1-80 is gonna be insanely hard. doing it in 2 months would be hard enough and im sure you would be labled a loser for sitting on your computer everyday leveling that character to get there. id say it would take the average person 3-4 months to get to 80 in eq2. i dunno if thats worth it.
PsiRedEye22
09-21-2008, 03:15 PM
That's the thing about EQ though. It's always been WoW's opposite. The main game in WoW is end-game raids. The main game for EQ is actually getting to the end.
Spence
09-23-2008, 02:18 PM
the game is very WoW but instead of PVE it's a PVP based game and the RVR is a great concept you have to read about it
i gots it todayz
from someone playing wow since release... i can say WAR is a good game, at level 1 you can already tell that this game is about pvp... but its a cool PvP, RVR.
basically fighting for castles the whole time is the shit.
Zuken
09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
i would hate this game if Mythic didnt make it, but thank god because they are PvP RvR masters. DAOC had the greatest PvP i've ever come across in an MMO. ordered 2 1 gig sticks of RAM that are getting here tomorrow. hopefully it will work now...
NMpwnsTX
09-23-2008, 11:38 PM
i need a final word. I wanna buy this but not if its gonna be a waste of time like age of conan was.
i played wow back when it was about a year old till 60 and quit due to raiding wasnt my thing and was getting bored of it.
pvp is what i like in mmo's but not if everyone can kill everyone equally without mmuch skill.
and content. i need something to keep me playing long enough to reach the end of the game.
so would you say this game is for me?
Unknown_Hinson
09-23-2008, 11:53 PM
Are they gonna release game-play time cards like that did in wow? I hate typing financial numbers in over the internet from all the damn keyloggers.
Wattle
09-24-2008, 12:17 AM
Yes they are, and ZOMG this game is so awesome still. I've played for like 2 months, and even replaying through the same areas as I did in beta isn't boring. I fucking love RvR.
Wablox - Dark Creg - Destruction - Black Orc
Whisper me or send me some mailz, I'm in a RvR-oriented guild and we plan on doing RvR all the time at 40 (lulz, who isnt?). But seriously, our guild name is fucking awesome. RvRdvark's 4 lyfe.
I Like Me
09-24-2008, 03:06 AM
I started a Sorcerer. I love it. I can't stand the profession system, though. Would I be able to make gold without using them?
pinkyclown
09-24-2008, 03:53 AM
So far the only thing that disappoints me about the game is that they did not give out any friend codes that would let other people play for 10 days for free or something like that.
If they had done that, I think a lot more people would be playing this game and finding out that it is awesome.
Well to tell the truth the game is a kind of buggy,not enuf to break the game but if some 1 told me that they were going to wat a few months before starting then I would not blame them. BUT if you were to start know it would not be the wrong choice ether.
So far the only thing that disappoints me about the game is that they did not give out any friend codes that would let other people play for 10 days for free or something like that.
If they had done that, I think a lot more people would be playing this game and finding out that it is awesome.
Well to tell the truth the game is a kind of buggy,not enuf to break the game but if some 1 told me that they were going to wat a few months before starting then I would not blame them. BUT if you were to start know it would not be the wrong choice ether.
yes its buggy, but holy shit it is so smooth for just a first release, WOW was a major lagfuckfest in its first 4 months almost
Metzgore
09-24-2008, 11:21 AM
I bought a retail version of warhammer the day after it came out. When i try installing it, it says "cannot copy art.myp". I've tried everything, manual copy to harddrive, same message. i even downloaded the art.myp and it still wont install. I exchanged it at walmart hoping it was a bad disk but NOPE. Tried 3 computers, each of the installs game the same message. Tried contacting EA but to no avail. They suggest checking if windows is up to date and blah blah. So what the fuck am i supposed to do? Others with this problem spent hours doing odd things which in the end somehow got it to install. Any info on this subject would be appreciated. (yes i have googled, called EA, visited warhammer support)
posting here because i have nowhere else to turn.
Spankt
09-24-2008, 03:43 PM
I need a bit of help here to see if I can actually run the game.
I downloaded the Wow trial to see if my laptop can handle that and it can. I also can run CSS and HL2 smoothly on decent settings.
The only thing is that WAR says you should have 2.5GHz processor, which my laptop doesn't, but I can run these other games fine.
Is WAR really that demanding? would I be able to run it you think?
rand0m
09-24-2008, 03:50 PM
I bought a retail version of warhammer the day after it came out. When i try installing it, it says "cannot copy art.myp". I've tried everything, manual copy to harddrive, same message. i even downloaded the art.myp and it still wont install. I exchanged it at walmart hoping it was a bad disk but NOPE. Tried 3 computers, each of the installs game the same message. Tried contacting EA but to no avail. They suggest checking if windows is up to date and blah blah. So what the fuck am i supposed to do? Others with this problem spent hours doing odd things which in the end somehow got it to install. Any info on this subject would be appreciated. (yes i have googled, called EA, visited warhammer support)
posting here because i have nowhere else to turn.
You exchanged a PC game at Walmart?
Spence
09-24-2008, 05:17 PM
i need a final word. I wanna buy this but not if its gonna be a waste of time like age of conan was.
i played wow back when it was about a year old till 60 and quit due to raiding wasnt my thing and was getting bored of it.
pvp is what i like in mmo's but not if everyone can kill everyone equally without mmuch skill.
and content. i need something to keep me playing long enough to reach the end of the game.
so would you say this game is for me?
Well i played AOC and i didn't like it because it didn't have the right feel to me especially since the world was instanced... but Warhammer is very much like wow but instead of raiding its RVR and a little PVE each zones has giant keeps and castles and forts and they pretty much design it to where you battle for them and you get exp and renown points for doing it
the downfall of the game could be is it is so heavily dependent on the community
Metzgore
09-24-2008, 10:50 PM
You exchanged a PC game at Walmart?
Yes, I was surprised. Unless she didn't know it was against their policy. You can only get another copy.
aooga12
09-24-2008, 11:16 PM
i'm just waiting for the trials to come out... gonna have to give this baby a try.
Spankt
09-24-2008, 11:33 PM
i'm just waiting for the trials to come out... gonna have to give this baby a try.
And when might these trials be available?
PsiRedEye22
09-25-2008, 01:15 AM
And when might these trials be available?
Warcraft's started after a few months. Generally they try to gauge their expected playerbase before dishing out the trials. Especially after WoW's dominant marketshare, they're looking for people that just switch outright before letting people try it.
Suwagara
09-25-2008, 12:50 PM
The only thing bugging me about the game is the consistent advertising of people trying to sell damn gold of their websites. Anyway I can turn of private messages...?
Zuken
09-25-2008, 08:11 PM
FINALLY got warhammer up and running and had to spend over 300 dollars to steroids my computer to get it to work, but im good now.
Guile
09-25-2008, 08:15 PM
For some reason, I didn't like it as much as WoW...
Gijink
09-25-2008, 09:13 PM
Yeah it's really fun. I'm a dwarf tank (like a grudge bearer or something, I forget).
It starts slow (by slow i mean the first three levels) and then you're BOOM in the middle of your first public quest (at least for the dwarfs). And holy shit it was so much fun. The quest restarted every ten minutes or so and it was sooooo much fun seeing a group of ten of us dwarfs run up a hill to an orc camp and kill 20 orcs, then have to destroy 15 barrels of powder, then kill an orc hero in the base. It was like an end game raid of WoW, except at level 4, and the cue was non existent. It really did bind me and the 9 guys together really well. We were typing out commands, strategy and everything, soo much fun.
The only thing is (well... two things) that I started on an open RvR server, which means that any chaos player at any level can rape me anywhere outside my main city. It sucks. I'm like questing and I get raped by level 18-25 chaos players fucking around. Really annoying. Don't they have better shit to do?
And the other thing is that Destruction outnumbers order like 3:2 or something. It's annoying I hear at higher levels, and also the fact that on every server the Destruction side is always winning in the whole Fight for The City campaign, if you know what I'm talking about. But hey, it's been like, what, a week post release? I'm sure it'll fix itself when more and more people start joining.
Ask me if you have a question.
Zuken
09-25-2008, 10:08 PM
The only thing is (well... two things) that I started on an open RvR server, which means that any chaos player at any level can rape me anywhere outside my main city. It sucks. I'm like questing and I get raped by level 18-25 chaos players fucking around. Really annoying. Don't they have better shit to do?
lol DAOC was like this in any PvP server. you had 3 realms, but in PvP it was every man for himself. Mythic has a habit of doing this and while it makes the game frustrating, it also makes it that much more rigorous which i enjoy a lot. overall i'd rate Mythic as a company way higher than Blizzard in the MMO department, but since they sided with EA...i just dont know anymore. they almost seem like sellouts to me. its sad because they dont need EA at all and would do perfectly fine without that failure that tries to call themselves a good gaming company. DAOC was the first MMO i've ever played and by god i have never EVER seen a better one to this day. i constantly search for one so hopefully Mythic delivered another "rip your dick off" game
bottom line. FUCK YOU EA YOUR CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS COMPLETE SHIT
Wattle
09-26-2008, 12:51 AM
I'm like questing and I get raped by level 18-25 chaos players fucking around. Really annoying. Don't they have better shit to do?
LOL, thats what me and my guildmates usually do when we're bored at night and running to a keep. Just run around and own people up, its fun when we meet another group of people on Order doing the same thing while going to a keep.
But yeah, Open-RvR is awesome. I was alone one time and I had to go scout out 2 cap points, but I had like 3 dwarves on me so I had to fucking go all ninja stealth on them and try and lose them. It was fucking lulz.
NMpwnsTX
09-26-2008, 06:22 AM
well i download the game...
played a blight wizard or what ever for 30 mins before the server went down. level 2... and well so far im not really impressed. i know its only 30 mins of playing but the game feels really weird. it feels like a half assed wow clone. and to be honest the graphics in wow seem better in a sense than warhammer.
in wow everything was so bright and easy to see. in warhammer its better graphics but slightly but it still has that blocky look to it like wow and it seems really dark. like if you had to go pick things up it would be kind of a bitch to spot them out kinda dark.
I dunno thats my first impression hopefully it gets better. and im not sure i like the fact that order is being dominated on almost every server. i wanted to join the bad guys because they look cool but man ive heard complaints about there battles times lasting over 2 hours so i just joined order with what ever wizard type class they had. and apparently blight wizards are over populated so the game feels like theres no unique ness to it. I have a feeling once i hit 40 that everyone will look exactly the same.
Zuken
09-27-2008, 04:25 PM
I dunno thats my first impression hopefully it gets better. and im not sure i like the fact that order is being dominated on almost every server. i wanted to join the bad guys because they look cool but man ive heard complaints about there battles times lasting over 2 hours so i just joined order with what ever wizard type class they had. and apparently blight wizards are over populated so the game feels like theres no unique ness to it. I have a feeling once i hit 40 that everyone will look exactly the same.
what server did you play? i tried to find one with a medium ammount of both order and chaos. but i thought there was a higher percent of chaos than order. maybe im wrong. also the darkness effect that you spoke of is just the emotion of the game. yes WoW is a lot more colorfull, but thats because its very childish. more of a cartoony effect to everything you see around you. warhammer is definately a more drab type of game. it is Mythic's "Style" you could say. its simply to make it seem more real you could say. also it is still in the opening month. im sure after a couple months it will be a lot better
and personally i thought the game was boring at first also up until i found my first public quest. those are fun as hell. then when you start exploring the main city and learn your crafting abilities it gets a lot better also. very interative even if there are just 2 to learn.
Osiris5217
09-27-2008, 07:46 PM
It sounds good, but I'm going to wait for the trials as well.
break3r
09-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Join the evil sides it any RPG game unless u want to lose everything PVP
Wattle
09-27-2008, 09:21 PM
Join the evil sides it any RPG game unless u want to lose everything PVP
Lies.
On Dark Creg, Order is usually holding every keep I see or attacking it along with all the points. Scenario's are usually Destruction dominated though.
fuzzninja7
09-27-2008, 09:33 PM
I have a level 13 Chaos Chosen on the Drifting Castle Server, it takes a hella long time to level up, and the public quests take longer to do as you level.
used_me
09-27-2008, 11:57 PM
Whats the differnernce between a public quest and say a group of people questing in wow? Also WoW was like one giant streaming world, as oppose to AoC in which every area was a different instance or whatever. How is Warhammer in this sense?
Wattle
09-28-2008, 01:50 AM
Whats the differnernce between a public quest and say a group of people questing in wow? Also WoW was like one giant streaming world, as oppose to AoC in which every area was a different instance or whatever. How is Warhammer in this sense?
Warhammer is like WoW where everything is pretty much open and not instanced. A public quest is a small area which for example will have a quest for anyone to do (ex. "Stage 1: kill 100 wolves, Stage 2: kill 10 champion wolves, Stage 3: kill the hero wolf") and at the end it calculates around 5 winners who receive a loot bag. You than choose what item you want (ex. equipment, cash or a tradeskill item).
I find it pretty easy to level though when doing normal quests, at least in the Greenskin area. The quests are so bunched together, but I agree. PQ's take forever to do but they are usually worth it.
asterlite
09-28-2008, 02:23 AM
PQ's are also like a bajillion times quicker to do than 5 mans in WoW, and a shit ton more fun. and they are allll over the place.
Unknown_Hinson
09-28-2008, 03:37 AM
PQ's are also like a bajillion times quicker to do than 5 mans in WoW, and a shit ton more fun. and they are allll over the place.
5 mans are redundant in wow, you dont need them to lvl, they have shitty loot, and you pretty much never touch them ever again after 70. If your gonna compare, compare the shitty 10 man and 25 man raids. Other then that, its fun gathering 40 people and destroying a bunch of alliance towns. Or just killing a lowbie alliance town by yourself until a scrub alliance appears to be owned as well.
I haven't played warhammer so I may sound biased, but what im saying is 5 mans should be out of the question in comparison for wow. Just because of their sheer redundancy in the average player's playtime.
Daucus Karota
09-28-2008, 08:53 AM
yeah I'm thinking of starting a new Chaos army now that new a miniature release is on the horizon... oh wait this is about that online game.:uhoh:
NMpwnsTX
09-28-2008, 09:19 AM
ok well i continued to play. i actually tried chaos side, magus sucks balls and sorc males look fucking gayer than shit. either way i ditched them both and went back to my bright wizard.
im lvl 11 now and im actually enjoying it now. although i think bright wizards deserver either more health or some sort of defense spell because we get raaaaped by anything melee in pvp. our damage owns but its hard to fight melee if it takes 5 seconds to charge a spell up and by the time you hit them they hit you like 10 times already and you only do 1/5 the damage they've done to you. no matter how strong your attack is your already halfway dead and cant fire off a second shot because you'll just die.
I dunno how long i will be able to stand the leveling in the game, i hear after 20 or 22 or something the game gets even better but i might have to get power leveled to that after like 15 or soemthing because i dunno how much longer i can deal with these lame quests and since its only getting harder to level i probably can't deal with it.
Daucus Karota
09-28-2008, 10:16 AM
sorc males look fucking gayer than shit.
they are Druchii what did you expect?.:rollseyes
aooga12
09-28-2008, 10:42 AM
i actually bought the game yesterday.. didn't get to play it too much.. but so far i loved it.
Superior_to_you
09-28-2008, 11:06 AM
Bleh I'll pass on that...no games worth that much $ a month
Heh, depends on how much you play it. If you go to the movies like twice you just paid the same amount of money for 4hrs of entertainment vs the entire month if you really wanted.
used_me
09-28-2008, 01:06 PM
I just got this too, anyone want to start a ebw guild or something?
aooga12
09-28-2008, 05:19 PM
me and volkll511 are on gorfang, CHAOS MOTHERFUCKER.... join us. my name is aooga and his name is gamith.
Gijink
09-28-2008, 11:26 PM
me and volkll511 are on gorfang, CHAOS MOTHERFUCKER.... join us. my name is aooga and his name is gamith.
shittt
i wish that i knew before.
im a level 11 orc.
And more about the game. The last time I posted, I was only a level 4 dwarf. But now that I have the first ten levels under my belt I think I have a more informed opinion.
Yes, the PQ's (Public Quests) are the shit. Wow so much fun. There are literally some scenarios where there will be a wall of order NPC soldiers that charge at a wall of destruction NPC soldiers and you jump into the middle of it. That shit feels like a real war. Wow. I feel just like I'm in the middle of a war, not some lame on-screen shitfestival of a game. I'm connected. I actually want to go kill those bad guys that are attacking my flank (whatever).
The graphics are ok. I really don't see how people are saying they're worse than WoW's... I completely disagree. They're better, not a lot, but better.
Still, the biggest problem is the sheer magnitude of Destruction players. There has got to be a fix for this.
My "money-making" skill/profession (much like skinning, mining, etc. in WoW) is salvaging... and it's actually the most pointless thing ever. Can I have two professions? Someone should elaborate this to me.
Honestly, the reason this game owns (for me) can be summer up in this example.
I was playing as a level 10 Black Orc (a tank class) and the quest was to "scout" out a specific abandoned keep and then kill a Player Controlled character in the RvR area. So I was scouting out, finally found the area (thanks to the WONDERFUL minimap, that highlights all quest areas) and get there. I get ambushed by some lame ass order player, a high elf DPS class. So the fight starts with me completely unprepared and a good chunk of my health gone and I don't even know where this guy is. I turn around, boom, see this darting elf running at me, I run behind an adjacent wall , wait to when I think the elf should be just about turning the corner and I jump out. The guy had no idea I was waiting for him and over runs me, and I snare/DoT his ass, and win with like a tenth of my HP left and my heart pounding in my ears. He was level 12 and I thoroughly owned him but the highlight of it was that I also completed my quest and the little quest symbol lit up for completion. It was the best moment
used_me
09-29-2008, 04:05 PM
I made a greenskin squig herder on gorfang, named Gnawp that im going to start leveling.
I Like Me
09-30-2008, 02:44 AM
I'm down for an EBWF guild.
aooga12
09-30-2008, 06:55 AM
ok well i continued to play. i actually tried chaos side, magus sucks balls and sorc males look fucking gayer than shit. either way i ditched them both and went back to my bright wizard.
im lvl 11 now and im actually enjoying it now. although i think bright wizards deserver either more health or some sort of defense spell because we get raaaaped by anything melee in pvp. our damage owns but its hard to fight melee if it takes 5 seconds to charge a spell up and by the time you hit them they hit you like 10 times already and you only do 1/5 the damage they've done to you. no matter how strong your attack is your already halfway dead and cant fire off a second shot because you'll just die.
I dunno how long i will be able to stand the leveling in the game, i hear after 20 or 22 or something the game gets even better but i might have to get power leveled to that after like 15 or soemthing because i dunno how much longer i can deal with these lame quests and since its only getting harder to level i probably can't deal with it.
i have a lvl 8 sorc, he looks fine with armor on him, but i just tried some order classes and holy saint mary's testicles, i love bright wizards!
but for the ebwf lets all go to gorefang on destruction... my name is aooga.
NMpwnsTX
09-30-2008, 11:00 AM
fuck you man, order is about 60% bright wizards right now. thats just because everything else sucks.
btw anyone else think its gay that destruction is filled with 80%+ melee fuckers. its almost impossible to win any senarios with the order because most of the order is casters and the melee just run through them.
Trenaur
10-05-2008, 05:40 PM
I am playing on Ungrim as a Magus lvl 16 and Witch Elf lvl 30. Very fun game. I've completely forgotten about WoW.
Zuken
10-05-2008, 06:33 PM
wishing i had picked a more populated server now...i never can do pvp it sucks ass :(
...but i always win :D
shawneboy
10-09-2008, 04:20 AM
Warhammer, the bottom line, it blows ass. If you haven't been to t3 yet, you don't know. Come t3, the game falls apart tremendously. It also becomes to most repetitive, boring, typical grindfest of any mmo you've played.
The game isn't based on pve. What this actually means is that Mythic is too lazy to actually design challanging encounters. The random lair bosses are nothing but tank and spank fights, every single one of them. GJ Warhammer.
PvP in t3 is broke to the max. Queue for Tor Anroc and you'll soon know for yourself. Open rvr doesn't exist.
As a whole, Warhammer feels rushed, mediocre when compared to WoW, and poorly optimized. It sucks.
Wotlk will burry war when it releases. War will live on through a small but dedicated community.
aooga12
10-09-2008, 06:57 AM
fuck you man, order is about 60% bright wizards right now. thats just because everything else sucks.
btw anyone else think its gay that destruction is filled with 80%+ melee fuckers. its almost impossible to win any senarios with the order because most of the order is casters and the melee just run through them.
hah on my server, the order is spread out evenly, destruction is like 90% casters and 10% meleers that wish they were casters so they dont melee they just sit there. i wish i would have rolled order..
NMpwnsTX
10-09-2008, 07:58 AM
Warhammer, the bottom line, it blows ass. If you haven't been to t3 yet, you don't know. Come t3, the game falls apart tremendously. It also becomes to most repetitive, boring, typical grindfest of any mmo you've played.
The game isn't based on pve. What this actually means is that Mythic is too lazy to actually design challanging encounters. The random lair bosses are nothing but tank and spank fights, every single one of them. GJ Warhammer.
PvP in t3 is broke to the max. Queue for Tor Anroc and you'll soon know for yourself. Open rvr doesn't exist.
As a whole, Warhammer feels rushed, mediocre when compared to WoW, and poorly optimized. It sucks.
Wotlk will burry war when it releases. War will live on through a small but dedicated community.
I hate to say it but this mans right...
i just hit the T3 and nothing has changed like some people saying "oh it gets better after 20 blah blah blah"
the game still has NOT changed. its still the same crap the scenarios blow and i just joined a tor anroc scenario and as an order player i've never been so dominated in any game. melee destruction is seriously over powered. its bad enough they got a million health but when they actually do as much damage as some of the casters then its insane.
as far as the pve goes, i tried to get away from the scenario leveling because its getting far to repetitive and there really is no point to it except exp and renown leveling. anyway im doing quests again in high pass and every quest is the same crap... go here, kill this, talk to this guy... its bad enough that these world designs are total crap and nothing to look at. now theres nothing new in terms of pve content. same type of PQ's same idea behind them. nothing is changing.
THERE IS NO CONTENT IN THIS FUCKING GAME! and I agree RVR does NOT EXIST right now. And quite frankly I don't know if it ever will because i doubt the casual players will even make it to 40... the whole idea behind RVR isn't very appealing anyway. I don't know how the hell thats suppose to hold the end game up but im gonna go ahead and say that this game will be a flop unless they do something about more content.
RevelzDevelz
10-14-2008, 04:22 AM
I hate to say it but this mans right...
i just hit the T3 and nothing has changed like some people saying "oh it gets better after 20 blah blah blah"
the game still has NOT changed. its still the same crap the scenarios blow and i just joined a tor anroc scenario and as an order player i've never been so dominated in any game. melee destruction is seriously over powered. its bad enough they got a million health but when they actually do as much damage as some of the casters then its insane.
as far as the pve goes, i tried to get away from the scenario leveling because its getting far to repetitive and there really is no point to it except exp and renown leveling. anyway im doing quests again in high pass and every quest is the same crap... go here, kill this, talk to this guy... its bad enough that these world designs are total crap and nothing to look at. now theres nothing new in terms of pve content. same type of PQ's same idea behind them. nothing is changing.
THERE IS NO CONTENT IN THIS FUCKING GAME! and I agree RVR does NOT EXIST right now. And quite frankly I don't know if it ever will because i doubt the casual players will even make it to 40... the whole idea behind RVR isn't very appealing anyway. I don't know how the hell thats suppose to hold the end game up but im gonna go ahead and say that this game will be a flop unless they do something about more content.
You guys do know that T3 is not end game right? You do know that this game is an RvR game right? They give you enough PvE crap to get to know how to play your class through leveling. RvR is the core of this game. If you are a carebearing player who thinks scripted NPC's that drop phat loot should be 40 ppl getting together to do the same thing (or use a mod like WoWplayer_4,987,235 to do it for you) then by all means this game sucks. However the simple fact that you CAN if you wanted to level completely off killing little scrubs like you makes this game leaps and bounds above the rest.
The game has been out a month RvR will be there when enough ppl are 40. The comments you made makes me think this is your first MMO even though I know it isn't since you seem to think WoW is better because it is more polished. Well no shit its been out for years.
T4, you know actually end game after T3...is a blast. Is it a grind? um its a mmo what mmo isn't a grind? At least its against players who can think for themselves and not Boss_demon_83 doing the same thing as Boss_demon_79 only this time it has a spell kinda like Boss_demon_54 but with different resists.
WaR looks like a WoW with crispy graphics but it damn sure doesn't play like WoW. PvE carebears stick with WoW where you safe from ppl with skills. PvPers who want to kill someone with purpose other then to sit infront of a bank and barrens_chat with other losers semi afk while there mods finish a raid with there toon, come to WaR.
aooga12
10-14-2008, 06:54 AM
man this game has been pissing me off, i just keep dieing on quests from single champioin mobs... i just want to pvp scenario/rar my way to 40, whats the best way to do that?... i think 1 scenario every 20 mins... but i never see any order in the rvr area in t1... is it just unpopular? and does it get more popular as i advance in tiers?
Trenaur
10-14-2008, 11:16 AM
To the guys posting above bout no open world RvR...you couldn't be more wrong. Apparently you need to join a guild that does keep sieges and captures Battle Objectives in zones. Hell just last night I spent 2 hours doing open world RvR then the rest of the night we farmed Public Quests for some gear. Normally we would queue for some scenarios but we are protesting against the +20% buff Order has now on my server to get more Order to play there.
The quests are fun, the instances are even more fun (apparently you retards haven't been to Mount Gunbad or Bastion Stairs instances yet or you wouldn't be saying that boss fights are ONLY tank and spank fights. Some are yes...but not all of them. This game focuses on PvP...so naturally the PvE encounters are not technically difficult on par with WoW).
And aooga12...Champions are basically "elite" mobs. So yes...you can't solo them by design. The quests that you do as you level do not encounter Champion mobs unless you are doing one of the very few heroic quests which by nature they require a group to do...they aren't meant to be solo'd.
I think the majority of people playing the game have leveled beyond T1. T2 and T3 are hopping right now on my server. I play in T4 and it is starting to ramp up too. Then of course a few months from now once the majority are T4 you will get all kinds of action in both open world RvR and scenarios. Just stick it out and get to T2.
NMpwnsTX
10-14-2008, 12:39 PM
i stopped reading after you said your guild was protesting the 20% buff bonus. apparently you don't want anymore people to play with on your server. you just want 10 vs 1 ratio. that sounds like loads of fun doesn't it. See how fun it is when theres nobody to play against on your server idiot.
aooga12
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
To the guys posting above bout no open world RvR...you couldn't be more wrong. Apparently you need to join a guild that does keep sieges and captures Battle Objectives in zones. Hell just last night I spent 2 hours doing open world RvR then the rest of the night we farmed Public Quests for some gear. Normally we would queue for some scenarios but we are protesting against the +20% buff Order has now on my server to get more Order to play there.
The quests are fun, the instances are even more fun (apparently you retards haven't been to Mount Gunbad or Bastion Stairs instances yet or you wouldn't be saying that boss fights are ONLY tank and spank fights. Some are yes...but not all of them. This game focuses on PvP...so naturally the PvE encounters are not technically difficult on par with WoW).
And aooga12...Champions are basically "elite" mobs. So yes...you can't solo them by design. The quests that you do as you level do not encounter Champion mobs unless you are doing one of the very few heroic quests which by nature they require a group to do...they aren't meant to be solo'd.
I think the majority of people playing the game have leveled beyond T1. T2 and T3 are hopping right now on my server. I play in T4 and it is starting to ramp up too. Then of course a few months from now once the majority are T4 you will get all kinds of action in both open world RvR and scenarios. Just stick it out and get to T2.
wow, your guild sounds sweet, what server do you play on?... order or destruction?
fuzzninja7
10-14-2008, 10:53 PM
i switched it up and i play order now, i like it more than destruction because the cities aren't as boring :\.
lvl 16 shadow warrior on hochland (RvR server).
Trenaur
10-15-2008, 10:01 AM
wow, your guild sounds sweet, what server do you play on?... order or destruction?
I play on Ungrim, Destruction. I'm a Witch Elf, level 32 almost 33. More and more people are starting to hit 40 now I noticed during our keep sieges last night...but I am taking it fairly easy in this game and not power leveling. Don't want to burn out :)
Trenaur
10-15-2008, 10:10 AM
i stopped reading after you said your guild was protesting the 20% buff bonus. apparently you don't want anymore people to play with on your server. you just want 10 vs 1 ratio. that sounds like loads of fun doesn't it. See how fun it is when theres nobody to play against on your server idiot.
It's obvious you don't know shit about how the beta went and the changes they made to Order before it went live (to get people to play them in the first place since people gravitated to Destruction naturally). They don't NEED more bonus then they already get naturally.
Plus explain to me how a temporary bonus is supposed to sustain population? It's not a fix as you seem to think moron.
You must be an Order player...
NMpwnsTX
10-15-2008, 10:35 AM
I din't play beta because im not a fucking faggot who loathed over the game like a loser.
what bonus did they get before the server bonus? it obviously din't work moron because 80% of the servers are still 2 v 1 ratio.
what do you think the temporary bonus was for idiot? to piss of destruction players? its obviously and incentive to get people to switch over to other lower population servers with population vs problems. Jesus you must be like 14 years old or just stupid.
Trenaur
10-15-2008, 12:17 PM
I din't play beta because im not a fucking faggot who loathed over the game like a loser.
what bonus did they get before the server bonus? it obviously din't work moron because 80% of the servers are still 2 v 1 ratio.
what do you think the temporary bonus was for idiot? to piss of destruction players? its obviously and incentive to get people to switch over to other lower population servers with population vs problems. Jesus you must be like 14 years old or just stupid.
I din't play beta because im not a fucking faggot who loathed over the game like a loser.
This explains your lack of knowledge of why my guild and others on my server boycotted scenarios for now...so you probably just need to shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about right now.
what bonus did they get before the server bonus? it obviously din't work moron because 80% of the servers are still 2 v 1 ratio.
Everyone can see server populations and when I have gone to the server select screen your statement of 80% of them being 2:1 is completely false. Do you usually lie to try and back up your line of bullshit?
what do you think the temporary bonus was for idiot? to piss of destruction players? its obviously and incentive to get people to switch over to other lower population servers with population vs problems. Jesus you must be like 14 years old or just stupid.
Clearly you aren't thinking long term down the road at all. Will a temporary experience bonus will make people switch? No...that is just a temporary fix that will not maintain populations. Will people be able to start new toons and level up a little quicker? Sure. Is it worth starting over a new toon JUST for that reason? Not at all...Unless those people we're already toying with the idea of going to Order and probably would have even without the incentive then no this is not a fix.
The larger scope of impact this "incentive" DOES do is it gives the current Order players who are in T3/T4 who have been playing since the game launched who are already dominating due to the preferential treatment in abilities they were given back in beta (specifically knock back abilities at a much earlier level then Destruction gets them) is bullshit. The problem right now is that since Order has a smaller population they can essentially control what scenarios are played. So what do they do? They queue up for scenarios that favor abilities they have that Destruction does not yet have or is starting to get as we get 30+. Maps that favor having a knock back effect are what we end up playing more then anything. It is hard enough to win a scenario as it is...and now they are giving our tier of Order players 20% bonus on top of how much they typically win as it is? Fuck that.
You have no idea wtf you are talking about. It's obvious you are an Order player but what's worse is you are an ignorant fuck too.
Oh well...INTERNET HOOOOoooooo!!
shawneboy
10-15-2008, 12:28 PM
You guys do know that T3 is not end game right? You do know that this game is an RvR game right? They give you enough PvE crap to get to know how to play your class through leveling. RvR is the core of this game. If you are a carebearing player who thinks scripted NPC's that drop phat loot should be 40 ppl getting together to do the same thing (or use a mod like WoWplayer_4,987,235 to do it for you) then by all means this game sucks. However the simple fact that you CAN if you wanted to level completely off killing little scrubs like you makes this game leaps and bounds above the rest.
The game has been out a month RvR will be there when enough ppl are 40. The comments you made makes me think this is your first MMO even though I know it isn't since you seem to think WoW is better because it is more polished. Well no shit its been out for years.
T4, you know actually end game after T3...is a blast. Is it a grind? um its a mmo what mmo isn't a grind? At least its against players who can think for themselves and not Boss_demon_83 doing the same thing as Boss_demon_79 only this time it has a spell kinda like Boss_demon_54 but with different resists.
WaR looks like a WoW with crispy graphics but it damn sure doesn't play like WoW. PvE carebears stick with WoW where you safe from ppl with skills. PvPers who want to kill someone with purpose other then to sit infront of a bank and barrens_chat with other losers semi afk while there mods finish a raid with there toon, come to WaR.
Someone put a fat dick in this retards mouth. There's already numerous complaints on warhammer alliance about high population servers being near empty. Go watch Gamespots video review, even the lack of world rvr and people participating in pqs is mentioned.
T3 the game falls a part. Perhaps you were too busy chocking on a fat cock to see that. End game I can only imagine is worse, since casuals will have a hard time getting passed the shitfest that is t3. I still have been messing around on my witch elf, who is 29. Nothing changes every time I log in. I queue for every bg, only tor anroc pops, get punted into lava 4 or 5 times to my death (gg skill) then go back to solo grinding pqs. Total fail.
Go fanboy your bullshit some where else. No one came here with a biased opinion. It's a fact that many of the elements that were to make Warhammer are a fail. So when its unique parts fail, and other games do the basics better, where does that leave Warhammer?
Btw, there is no instanced pve. Gunbad is a zone, ie the random people you see running around. And yes, the hero encounters are tank and spanks within it.
Next, you can solo champions, you cannot solo heroes.
If you're going to be a douche fanboy, know what you're talking about.
RevelzDevelz
10-26-2008, 05:56 PM
Someone put a fat dick in this retards mouth. There's already numerous complaints on warhammer alliance about high population servers being near empty. Go watch Gamespots video review, even the lack of world rvr and people participating in pqs is mentioned.
how does 200 complaints on a msg board account for 500K subscribers? hell even 3000 complaints? You stupid fucktool stop talking as if your shit is fact.
T3 the game falls a part. Perhaps you were too busy chocking on a fat cock to see that. End game I can only imagine is worse, since casuals will have a hard time getting passed the shitfest that is t3. I still have been messing around on my witch elf, who is 29. Nothing changes every time I log in. I queue for every bg, only tor anroc pops, get punted into lava 4 or 5 times to my death (gg skill) then go back to solo grinding pqs. Total fail.
how does it fall apart? Again speaking as fact with nothign to back your faggot ass up. Bgs? Im glad there making that worthless for renown so pussies like you cant farm (WoW) style and think they are good becuase they AFKed there way to renown rank 80 fucking faggot. Dont blame the game cause you cant play go back to hello kitty online with the rest of your faggoty friends and circle jerk while you kill same_mob_54. RvR is player driven its not the games fault you idiots are dummied down and only wanna BG. RvR comes when ppl get levels dipshit get this through your saftey helmet....RvR is player driven you have to let a server mature to get the players T3 not being filled ot the brim doesn't mean anything and T4 needs ppl to catch up to happen.
Go fanboy your bullshit some where else. No one came here with a biased opinion. It's a fact that many of the elements that were to make Warhammer are a fail. So when its unique parts fail, and other games do the basics better, where does that leave Warhammer?
what fact? Your little nerd G4tv adam sandler butt buddy? Are you serious? Game trailer? Ever see there AoC review you fucking moron half this shit you say is nothing but BS. Are there problems with this game NO SHIT its an MMO every MMO has soemthing wrong but nothing is broken. Smoothest launch of any game.
Btw, there is no instanced pve. Gunbad is a zone, ie the random people you see running around. And yes, the hero encounters are tank and spanks within it.
And you tell me I dont know what im talking about? There are plenty of "instanced" bosses and plenty of zone to do at end game even if you cant find RvR which again is player driven. Once you and the other butt pansies get off the the WoW tit Bgish crap for your PvP and enter a zone to start some shit ppl show up and pvp happens. What are ppl supposed to do go sit in a rvr zone to wait for your pretty ass to come over?
Next, you can solo champions, you cannot solo heroes.
If you're going to be a douche fanboy, know what you're talking about.
Lrn2play is about what sums up any advice that can be given to you asswipe. See you in pvp if I ever decide to play butt pirate online.
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