View Full Version : Golf Is NOT a Real Sport.
x1_nick_1x
09-25-2008, 01:28 AM
It's what I call a mental sport, where sportsmanship comes into play, but physically, it's insulting to hear it be called a sport. Are golfers athletes? Have they worked hard to condition their bodies to be able to endure the game? No, they drive around in golf carts, get out, smack a ball, and back in the golf cart they go.
Tiger Woods is not an athlete. He plays golf. Golf is right up there with poker and chess. Seriously, to compare it with football, tennis, basketball, running...it's just irritating. Old men who are 80 years old can play golf. Are they athletes?
sprak_
09-25-2008, 03:05 AM
I don't think that's the right argument for why golf isn't a sport.
And Tiger Woods isn't an athlete just because he plays golf? Is Chad Pennington an athlete? I bet Tiger Woods is stronger and faster, and he can probably throw a football farther.
4savo4
09-25-2008, 08:34 AM
If it has an association it's a sport.
jn_powell
09-25-2008, 10:10 AM
It's what I call a mental sport, where sportsmanship comes into play, but physically, it's insulting to hear it be called a sport. Are golfers athletes?
Yes they are. Golf is physically demanding on your entire body. You can hurt your knees, back, and wrists playing golf and it happens quite often. particularly the back and wrists.
Have they worked hard to condition their bodies to be able to endure the game? No,
Wrong. In the past, perhaps, they were not as focused on conditioning, but since Tiger the gym rat appeared and started kicking everyones asses they have realized that conditioning is important and does have an effect on their game. Look at players like Tiger Woods, Camillo Villegas, and K.J. Choi and come back and tell me golfers do not work hard to condition their bodies. Even Phil "Flabby man teats" Mickelson has hit the gym to get his ass in shape.
they drive around in golf carts, get out, smack a ball, and back in the golf cart they go.
Obviously you have never watched a PGA golf tournament before because you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
Tiger Woods is not an athlete. He plays golf. Golf is right up there with poker and chess. Seriously, to compare it with football, tennis, basketball, running...it's just irritating. Old men who are 80 years old can play golf. Are they athletes?
Tiger Woods is one of the most well conditioned athletes in the world. And I doubt many 80 year olds can play golf like him.:bigwink:
If it has an association it's a sport.
http://www.thefa.com/default.aspx
Looks like soccer is not a sport then.:wave:
EDIT: My bad, I misread your post and I apologize.
j.elohim
09-25-2008, 10:14 AM
If it has an association it's a sport.
Gay Lesbian Trans Association for the Olympics? :bigwink:
Mysterio
09-25-2008, 10:15 AM
Most Golfers are in pretty good shape, and it's a sport where you acutally have to earn your money.
xtwistedx
09-25-2008, 10:50 AM
"It's what I call a mental sport"
well way to contradict yourself right there.
/thread
AsHopeDies
09-25-2008, 12:02 PM
I was trying to quote the people to respond to, but it's just too much, so I'll try to cover it all in a broad statement. First of all, I agree that golf isn't a sport, to me. But to compare it to poker and chess is truly moronic. Also, you can't say Tiger Woods is an athlete because he's in amazing shape. To compare him to Chad Pennington is also moronic. That's like saying the guy I work with who is in amazing shape, but it a professional web designer, is an athlete and, ergo, Web Design is now a sport. The athleticism and physical prowess of the participants has absolutely nothing to do with something being a sport or not, it's the actions contained in the activity. Carrot Top is in amazing physical shape, but that doesn't make stand up comedy a sport, it's completely irrelevant.
To summarize. Golf isn't a sport. It's more like bowling. Sure it's somewhat physical and being in shape will make you better at it, but there's still a shit load of fatasses that excel at it, and it's just too light to be a sport. Secondly, most of the people in this thread are morons. The OP is a moron, sprak is a moron, jn_power is a moron for not understanding that 4savo4 said that if it has an association it IS a sport, also for not realizing that Tiger Woods is one of the most well conditioned golfers in the world, or 'people' in the world, just because he's conditioned, doesn't mean he's an athlete.
That about covers it I think.
atreyu_2020
09-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Wow, I tried telling people this years ago and I got flamed.
Golf is as much of a sport as golfers are athletes.
I believe the argument was, maybe it was on another site, that sportsillustrated rated Tiger Woods as the #1 "toughest athlete" in the world. Anderson Silva, mixed martial artist, was third I think. And that's when chaos began. They tried to argue that hitting a ball with a crooked stick 4 feet away from the hole would be more pressure then risking the health of your brain and any limb you can imagine.
jn_powell
09-25-2008, 02:15 PM
jn_power is a moron for not understanding that
You know I have always tried to maintain some sort of civility in these threads but apparently douchebags like you are not capable of that, so I will stoop to your lowly level for a moment. If you are going to call me a moron, at least get my fucking name right.
EDIT: I will go edit my post to make you happy.
Geist
09-25-2008, 02:36 PM
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AsHopeDies
09-25-2008, 04:24 PM
You know I have always tried to maintain some sort of civility in these threads but apparently douchebags like you are not capable of that, so I will stoop to your lowly level for a moment. If you are going to call me a moron, at least get my fucking name right.
EDIT: I will go edit my post to make you happy.
I was just joking chief...calm down. And it actually is ironic and funny as hell that I misspelled your name when I was ripping on you for being stupid.
jn_powell
09-25-2008, 05:13 PM
I was just joking chief...calm down. And it actually is ironic and funny as hell that I misspelled your name when I was ripping on you for being stupid.
True. And thanks for making me FEEL like an idiot because I did totally misread his post, much the same way you misread my name. Sorry about the douchebag comment.
OP go and learn the definition of a sport you faggot. "OMG THERES NO CONTACT SO THERES NO WAY THATS ITS A SPORT!!!!" or that bullshit
golf isn't a sport? are you flipping kidding me. I really don't know how some of you guys keep managing to make yourselfs sound so dumb, honestly
AsHopeDies
09-26-2008, 10:37 AM
OP go and learn the definition of a sport you faggot. "OMG THERES NO CONTACT SO THERES NO WAY THATS ITS A SPORT!!!!" or that bullshit
golf isn't a sport? are you flipping kidding me. I really don't know how some of you guys keep managing to make yourselfs sound so dumb, honestly
Is bowling a sport? Is hunting a sport?
I know that there are definitions of what a "sport" is. Hell even dictionary.com includes bowling, hunting and fishing in their definition of what a 'sport' is. But I think most of us can agree that there is a line where something is a sport or an activity etc. Golf is one of the most argued activities when it comes to this.
Is bowling a sport? Is hunting a sport?
I know that there are definitions of what a "sport" is. Hell even dictionary.com includes bowling, hunting and fishing in their definition of what a 'sport' is. But I think most of us can agree that there is a line where something is a sport or an activity etc. Golf is one of the most argued activities when it comes to this.
There isn't a line as to what is or what isnt. It would been an scale or line, for example you put on the sport/activity the more left the more of a sport it is. Obviously things like football, rugby, cricket ect. would be far to the left eg
Sport x----------------------------------------------Activity/game/ect.
while golf would be somewhere here
Sport--------------x--------------------------------Activity/game/ect.
I really cant see how someone thinks golf is not a sport
salvationofpain
09-26-2008, 11:36 AM
i played golf, soccer, hockey, tennis, basketball and ran cross country at various levels in my life and golf was by far the hardest. the most physically demanding not a chance, but i thought it takes the most skill. thats my personal experience with it though. so i guess it depends what you define a sport as
pantomime
09-26-2008, 01:30 PM
nick, I think i just disagree vehemently with everything you believe. So far that's been the case..
Golf is too a sport, no commentary required.
Edit: OK, just read the OP's shit. What the fuck man, you don't know shit about golf? Do golfers condition their body? Hell yes they do! Why do you think some guys can hit the ball farther than others? Why if you were to pick up a club right now and try to play 18 holes, you would be physically tired after 9 holes, and too mentally tired to focus on the rest. Just give it a rest, man.
SmokedYaNerd
09-26-2008, 01:34 PM
It's what I call a mental SPORT
you lose, you made it easier on us and made it so we didnt have to debate. Well fought battle, but it is a sport you said it yourself.
AsHopeDies
09-26-2008, 02:52 PM
There isn't a line as to what is or what isnt. It would been an scale or line, for example you put on the sport/activity the more left the more of a sport it is. Obviously things like football, rugby, cricket ect. would be far to the left eg
Sport x----------------------------------------------Activity/game/ect.
while golf would be somewhere here
Sport--------------x--------------------------------Activity/game/ect.
I really cant see how someone thinks golf is not a sport
I couldn't disagree more. I really can't see how someone thinks labels are on a sliding scale. I don't think American football is more of a sport than baseball, or basketball. Something either is a sport or it isn't, I don't see how there are varying degrees of 'sport'.
i played golf, soccer, hockey, tennis, basketball and ran cross country at various levels in my life and golf was by far the hardest. the most physically demanding not a chance, but i thought it takes the most skill. thats my personal experience with it though. so i guess it depends what you define a sport as
I agree that it depends on one's definition, but there should be better standards than difficulty. Photorealistic painting is not a sport. Breakdancing is not a sport. Video gaming is not a sport. etc.
Roxtar
09-26-2008, 03:45 PM
Would anyone consider John Daley an athlete? He's an overweight alcoholic who smokes cigarettes and he plays on the PGA Tour.
http://www.strangecelebrities.com/images/content/115950.jpg
http://www.nndb.com/people/577/000026499/john-daly-golfer.jpg
I couldn't disagree more. I really can't see how someone thinks labels are on a sliding scale. I don't think American football is more of a sport than baseball, or basketball. Something either is a sport or it isn't, I don't see how there are varying degrees of 'sport'.
so what does bowling, darts or snooker come under? They're all "athletic activity's requiring skill or physical prowess" but not to the extent of others for example football.
4savo4
09-26-2008, 04:42 PM
so what does bowling, darts or snooker come under? They're all "athletic activity's requiring skill or physical prowess" but not to the extent of others for example football.
Agreed. It's a sport End of thread.
This is really a shit thread
Roxtar
09-26-2008, 05:39 PM
I'm hearing crickets - In order to play/participate in a sport one must be an athlete, correct? If you agree, see my above post regarding John Daley. There is no fucking way anyone could consider that fat disgusting slob an athlete and he is a professional golfer. He plays on the highest level tour in the world. You don't need to be an athlete to play golf. Which is why I would consider the varying degrees of sport (on a sliding scale) argument somewhat valid, and consider golf on the lesser end of that scale - more towards an "activity."
4savo4
09-26-2008, 05:53 PM
I'm hearing crickets - In order to play/participate in a sport one must be an athlete, correct? If you agree, see my above post regarding John Daley. There is no fucking way anyone could consider that fat disgusting slob an athlete and he is a professional golfer. He plays on the highest level tour in the world. You don't need to be an athlete to play golf. Which is why I would consider the varying degrees of sport (on a sliding scale) argument somewhat valid, and consider golf on the lesser end of that scale - more towards an "activity."
Bullshit. You don't need to be an athlete just because it's a sport. You need as much skill and mental strength.
I'm hearing crickets - In order to play/participate in a sport one must be an athlete, correct? If you agree, see my above post regarding John Daley. There is no fucking way anyone could consider that fat disgusting slob an athlete and he is a professional golfer. He plays on the highest level tour in the world. You don't need to be an athlete to play golf. Which is why I would consider the varying degrees of sport (on a sliding scale) argument somewhat valid, and consider golf on the lesser end of that scale - more towards an "activity."
jesus christ. Is golf a measure of physical ability? yes it is, therefore its a sport, It has nothing to do with the people participating
Roxtar
09-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Bullshit. You don't need to be an athlete just because it's a sport. You need as much skill and mental strength.
That is a ridiculous statement. You don't need to be an athlete because it's a sport? Is an athlete not one who participates in a sport? If not, what is an athlete by your definition?
Because I'm certain that if you consider an obese alcohol dependent cigarette smoker an athlete, then you're a moron.
4savo4
09-26-2008, 06:08 PM
That is a ridiculous statement. You don't need to be an athlete because it's a sport? Is an athlete not one who participates in a sport? If not, what is an athlete by your definition?
Because I'm certain that if you consider an obese alcohol dependent cigarette smoker an athlete, then you're a moron.
As in at the peak of their physical condition.
You think you need to be 6ft Built like fuck or able to run a marathon. The fact is you don't. You have to be for certain sports, but just because you don't for others like golf doesnt mean it's not a sport.
Roxtar
09-26-2008, 06:11 PM
As in at the peak of their physical condition.
You think you need to be 6ft Built like fuck or able to run a marathon. The fact is you don't. You have to be for certain sports, but just because you don't for others like golf doesnt mean it's not a sport.
Pay attention, I didn't say it's not a sport. I said I consider it a lesser sport because you don't have to be an athlete to excel at it.
As in at the peak of their physical condition.
You think you need to be 6ft Built like fuck or able to run a marathon. The fact is you don't. You have to be for certain sports, but just because you don't for others like golf doesnt mean it's not a sport.
exactly, its being fit for the requirements of the sport. Naturally a world class golfer doesn't need to have as much cardiovascular endurance as a world-class footballer. This doesn't mean golf isn't a sport. It means to excel at golf you don't need the same attributes to excel in other sports.
4savo4
09-26-2008, 06:13 PM
Pay attention, I didn't say it's not a sport. I said I consider it a lesser sport because you don't have to be an athlete to excel at it.
Which my reason is the same. All i have to change is that it doesnt make it any less of a sport. It's either a sport or it's not.
Roxtar
09-26-2008, 06:22 PM
Which my reason is the same. All i have to change is that it doesnt make it any less of a sport. It's either a sport or it's not.
I'm not arguing whether or not golf is a sport, I'm arguing whether or not you consider all golfers (PGA for debate's sake) athletes.
For example, I would consider Tiger Woods a world class athlete, but I would not consider John Daley an athlete at all. You can find examples of this in golf but would be hard pressed to do so in sports such as soccer/football, tennis, track and field, etc. at the highest levels.
x1_nick_1x
09-26-2008, 09:08 PM
lol wow this is a fun one. I figured it would be. Just wait til you hear what I have to say about Soccer!!
sprak_
09-27-2008, 02:47 AM
Not all golfers are athletes.
Not all NFL players are athletes.
That does not mean someone isn't an athlete just because they're a professional golfer.
I do consider golf a sport, but I can see why a lot of people don't think so. And it's not because "there are a lot of fatasses who excel at golf." That is retarded. There are fatasses, slow people, and weak people who play in the NFL, and I'm pretty sure that's a sport.
AsHopeDies
09-28-2008, 08:40 PM
so what does bowling, darts or snooker come under? They're all "athletic activity's requiring skill or physical prowess" but not to the extent of others for example football.
First of all, bowling, darts and snooker aren't athletic activities. Interpretive dance, playing the bongos, fishing, breakdancing, hunting, these things aren't sports are they? Breakdancing requires more skill and physical prowess than darts, but that doesn't make it a sport. I think the issue just goes back to definition, which it's obvious that most of us don't agree on. Games, activities, etc. regardless of the word for it, I don't consider those things sports. And I also don't have any regard for varying degrees of sport.
Not all golfers are athletes.
Not all NFL players are athletes.
That does not mean someone isn't an athlete just because they're a professional golfer.
I do consider golf a sport, but I can see why a lot of people don't think so. And it's not because "there are a lot of fatasses who excel at golf." That is retarded. There are fatasses, slow people, and weak people who play in the NFL, and I'm pretty sure that's a sport.
That quote isn't the basis of my argument...way to take it out of context.
Ganja Ninja
10-04-2008, 08:38 PM
lol wow this is a fun one. I figured it would be. Just wait til you hear what I have to say about Soccer!!
I'd love to see your arguement about football (soccer) not being a sport.
x1_nick_1x
10-05-2008, 01:18 AM
I'd love to see your arguement about football (soccer) not being a sport.
I didn't say that. And I'll eventually start a thread about soccer here in a few days or so when I feel up to it.
Nick is cool
10-05-2008, 01:24 AM
I havent put much thought into this or anything, but just off the top of my head, if the only way you get better at the thing is to play it, its not a sport. Football, basketball, soccer, baseball etc. you cant just play the sport and be good. You have to lift, get faster, more agile, etc.
Things like golf and ping pong, you just practice the sport by itself to get better. Sure you guys can tell me how "in shape" guys like tiger woods are, but does he need to be in shape for golf? If being in shape mattered, all golfers would be ripped, considering how much money professional sports make. To get better at golf you go out and play it, not hit the weight room, not do speed drills. Benching wont give you a farther drive. Golf would have all young guys if being in shape mattered.
4savo4
10-05-2008, 04:24 AM
I didn't say that. And I'll eventually start a thread about soccer here in a few days or so when I feel up to it.
Please don't.
Things like golf and ping pong, you just practice the sport by itself to get better.
well no, golfers need to spend time in the gym working on their muscular power if they want to compete at the highest level
Nick is cool
10-05-2008, 02:36 PM
well no, golfers need to spend time in the gym working on their muscular power if they want to compete at the highest level
Im sure they work on it, but if it was a must, all golfers would have huge muscles. With the money they make in golf, everyone would be very strong if it helped them golf. You dont see 50 year old linemen in the nfl.
Molson
10-05-2008, 03:11 PM
It's what I call a mental sport, where sportsmanship comes into play, but physically, it's insulting to hear it be called a sport. Are golfers athletes? Have they worked hard to condition their bodies to be able to endure the game? No, they drive around in golf carts, get out, smack a ball, and back in the golf cart they go.
Tiger Woods is not an athlete. He plays golf. Golf is right up there with poker and chess. Seriously, to compare it with football, tennis, basketball, running...it's just irritating. Old men who are 80 years old can play golf. Are they athletes?
Plain and simple, you've never played golf.
I've played 6 times now, all this month (my first times) and let me tell you: it's a fucking god damn hard sport. I don't care how strong you are, it is all about technique. I can't drive the ball more than 250 yards if I'm lucky, and I can lift twice my body weight. It's a painful sport on your back, for sure. It requires a ton and TON of pratice to be the best. Tiger Woods is the best because he's been playing his entire life. That's how much dedication you need.
It's no hockey, but it's still a sport, and a very, very hard one.
BlueQuarter
10-05-2008, 03:23 PM
Yes they are. Golf is physically demanding on your entire body. You can hurt your knees, back, and wrists playing golf and it happens quite often. particularly the back and wrists.
Wrong. In the past, perhaps, they were not as focused on conditioning, but since Tiger the gym rat appeared and started kicking everyones asses they have realized that conditioning is important and does have an effect on their game. Look at players like Tiger Woods, Camillo Villegas, and K.J. Choi and come back and tell me golfers do not work hard to condition their bodies. Even Phil "Flabby man teats" Mickelson has hit the gym to get his ass in shape.
Obviously you have never watched a PGA golf tournament before because you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
Tiger Woods is one of the most well conditioned athletes in the world. And I doubt many 80 year olds can play golf like him.:bigwink:
http://www.thefa.com/default.aspx
Looks like soccer is not a sport then.:wave:
EDIT: My bad, I misread your post and I apologize.
This post wins
x1_nick_1x
10-06-2008, 11:12 PM
Plain and simple, you've never played golf.
I've played 6 times now, all this month (my first times) and let me tell you: it's a fucking god damn hard sport. I don't care how strong you are, it is all about technique. I can't drive the ball more than 250 yards if I'm lucky, and I can lift twice my body weight. It's a painful sport on your back, for sure. It requires a ton and TON of pratice to be the best. Tiger Woods is the best because he's been playing his entire life. That's how much dedication you need.
It's no hockey, but it's still a sport, and a very, very hard one.
Yes it is all about technique. So is darts, bowling, and hot dog eating. Yes it requires a ton of practice. Well, I'm a pianist, and I practice 3 hours daily. Does that make me an athlete? No.
Yes it is all about technique. So is darts, bowling, and hot dog eating. Yes it requires a ton of practice. Well, I'm a pianist, and I practice 3 hours daily. Does that make me an athlete? No.
does playing the piano or hot dog eating require athletic ability suck as muscular endurance, speed, agility ect.
x1_nick_1x
10-07-2008, 09:34 AM
does playing the piano or hot dog eating require athletic ability suck as muscular endurance, speed, agility ect.
Well holy shit, BREATHING requires muscular endurance. And yes they require speed and agility, but there has to be a cutoff point. Playing video games can require speed. RACECAR driving requires speed, and that's another one I hate to hear called a sport.
kirchow
10-28-2008, 10:32 PM
It's what I call a mental sport, where sportsmanship comes into play, but physically, it's insulting to hear it be called a sport. Are golfers athletes? Have they worked hard to condition their bodies to be able to endure the game? No, they drive around in golf carts, get out, smack a ball, and back in the golf cart they go.
Tiger Woods is not an athlete. He plays golf. Golf is right up there with poker and chess. Seriously, to compare it with football, tennis, basketball, running...it's just irritating. Old men who are 80 years old can play golf. Are they athletes?
If you're not going to call golf a sport, then do NOT bring up Tiger Woods. He is so good not only because of his mental attributes, but because he is one of the most fit athletes out there. And I'm including all sports.
kirchow
10-28-2008, 10:37 PM
lol wow this is a fun one. I figured it would be. Just wait til you hear what I have to say about Soccer!!
I didn't say that. And I'll eventually start a thread about soccer here in a few days or so when I feel up to it.
First of all, just don't do it and if you really want to, go look at the thread that got locked called "Why America do not like soccer" or something like that.
Second- Don't start a thread hating soccer because you'll get banned. Trust be on this. bconngemini did it and he's banned. I restarted the thread arguing pro soccer and I got banned- even if it was for only 24 hours.
kirchow
10-28-2008, 10:44 PM
I havent put much thought into this or anything, but just off the top of my head, if the only way you get better at the thing is to play it, its not a sport. Football, basketball, soccer, baseball etc. you cant just play the sport and be good. You have to lift, get faster, more agile, etc.
Things like golf and ping pong, you just practice the sport by itself to get better. Sure you guys can tell me how "in shape" guys like tiger woods are, but does he need to be in shape for golf? If being in shape mattered, all golfers would be ripped, considering how much money professional sports make. To get better at golf you go out and play it, not hit the weight room, not do speed drills. Benching wont give you a farther drive. Golf would have all young guys if being in shape mattered.
Im sure they work on it, but if it was a must, all golfers would have huge muscles. With the money they make in golf, everyone would be very strong if it helped them golf. You dont see 50 year old linemen in the nfl.
Tiger Woods has huge muscles and look how far he's gotten. He benches somewhere over 300 lbs. and he is able to use, like, a 6 wood (I'm not too familiar so I may be wrong) whereas other players might have to resort to a 3 or 4 wood.
No more reposting for me.
Nick is cool
10-30-2008, 10:39 PM
If you're not going to call golf a sport, then do NOT bring up Tiger Woods. He is so good not only because of his mental attributes, but because he is one of the most fit athletes out there. And I'm including all sports.
Woods even admitted he wasnt good at other sports. Hes not some freak athlete who just plays golf, hes a decently in shape human being who just looks good compared to guys like john daly and vijay singh or whatever the hell his name is. Comparing his fitness to nfl players or soccer players is hilarious.
Tiger Woods has huge muscles and look how far he's gotten. He benches somewhere over 300 lbs. and he is able to use, like, a 6 wood (I'm not too familiar so I may be wrong) whereas other players might have to resort to a 3 or 4 wood.
No more reposting for me.
See the above. And benching 300 is great i guess for a golfer (thats assuming he actually does bench that much) but probaly over 80% of nfl players bench over 300. It doesnt mean much.
And like i said before.. if that 6 wood bullshit mattered, im sure all golfers would be strong and fit. You think when they are making that much money, there would be a bunch of fat and old pros if it mattered how fit you are? Think about it. Theres alot of golfers, and if being strong helped im sure most golfers would be walking around with 8 packs.
StandYourGround
10-31-2008, 01:41 AM
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Apparently, golf is a sport. Also, it has the worlds highest paid athlete fyi
AsHopeDies
10-31-2008, 02:44 PM
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Apparently, golf is a sport. Also, it has the worlds highest paid athlete fyi
For starters, it's already been pointed out that there are about 709724524 different definitions of the word 'sport'. So pointing out one that supports your claim holds little merit. It's also been pointed out, that by that definition, dog shows and beauty pageants are sports, which they clearly aren't.
Secondly, it doesn't matter how much Woods makes a year.
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
A. physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Apparently, golf is a sport. Also, it has the worlds highest paid athlete fyi
for starters, it's already been pointed out that there are about 709724524 different definitions of the word 'sport'. So pointing out one that supports your claim holds little merit. it's also been pointed out, that by that definition, dog shows and beauty pageants are sports, which they clearly aren't.
Secondly, it doesn't matter how much woods makes a year.
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AsHopeDies
11-11-2008, 01:04 PM
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What's your definition of physical activity then?
Running around in a circle (dog show) is more physically demanding than darts or billiards. Any beauty pageant with a talent portion contains more physical activity than those 'sports' as well. So, again, looking up one of a million definitions isn't proving any points, especially when the definitions contradict each other.
Let's look at it this way. If you perform the activity in slacks and a dress shirt, can we agree it's not a sport?
Joeybits
11-15-2008, 02:41 AM
Wow your very ignorant.
I love all these people who have never played golf in their life (putt putt doesn't count) and only have watched the espn highlights of tiger woods. First off he spends a lot of time in the gym weight lifting to increase power on his shots. Second off, have you ever tried to hit a golf ball? Its very difficult to hit it and hit it far and accurate, it takes a lot of skill to do a lot of the shots involved in golf (bunker shots, hazard shots, uphill/downhill lies) it may not be physical power that a golfer has, but its a lot of physical skill. You try swinging a golf club as fast as a pro does and still hit it accurately.
Also, professional golfers aren't allowed to drive around in carts in tournaments...
printithere
11-15-2008, 02:53 AM
I think it is a sport, perhaps not in the same league as other more physically demanding sports, but it's still a sport.
What I find really weird is how people get so angry and offended over the fact that it is considered a sport. There has to be some underlying reasons why, maybe OP got beat up by a golfer in high school?
AsHopeDies
11-15-2008, 03:26 AM
Wow your very ignorant.
The irony here is amazing. Perhaps you should read up on contractions before you throw around the word 'ignorant.'
Furthermore, your argument is off. Putting up drywall requires strength and skill, so is it a sport now? Everything you just said has already been addressed, come up with something new.
abhishek2008
11-17-2008, 03:55 AM
Because the real sports is cricket.
Frood
11-17-2008, 05:17 AM
Well holy shit, BREATHING requires muscular endurance. And yes they require speed and agility, but there has to be a cutoff point. Playing video games can require speed. RACECAR driving requires speed, and that's another one I hate to hear called a sport.
Why shouldn't racecar driving be a sport? It's extremely physically demanding, requires practice, skill, and endurance to be the best. For example, in Formula one racing, the force on the drivers can exceed 5 g's in some corners, a MASSIVE amount of force. They have to keep concentration up for 2 hours, hitting precise spots on the track every moment. Just because anyone can get in a consumer car and drive it doesn't mean that true car driving isn't a sport.
I've never played golf, and although I consider it a stupid sport, I still think it's a sport, because of the definition someone posted earlier.
Sketcher
11-17-2008, 09:18 AM
I would classify golf in the same category as pool (billiards). Both are hard and take a lot of practice but you don't need to be fit to play either. They are games, not sports.
Nick is cool
11-17-2008, 06:00 PM
Why shouldn't racecar driving be a sport? It's extremely physically demanding, requires practice, skill, and endurance to be the best. For example, in Formula one racing, the force on the drivers can exceed 5 g's in some corners, a MASSIVE amount of force. They have to keep concentration up for 2 hours, hitting precise spots on the track every moment. Just because anyone can get in a consumer car and drive it doesn't mean that true car driving isn't a sport.
I've never played golf, and although I consider it a stupid sport, I still think it's a sport, because of the definition someone posted earlier.
Being uncomfortable in a hot car doesnt make racing 'physically demanding'..
AsHopeDies
11-17-2008, 06:16 PM
I've read they lose upwards of like 10 pounds in a single race. If this is true, which I cannot confirm, I'd say it falls in the 'physically demanding' category.
Frood
11-17-2008, 06:27 PM
Being uncomfortable in a hot car doesnt make racing 'physically demanding'..
What part of 5g turns don't you understand? In what other sport are you working yourself to the max for a solid 2 hours?
Nick is cool
11-17-2008, 06:38 PM
What part of 5g turns don't you understand? In what other sport are you working yourself to the max for a solid 2 hours?
5g turns takes skill and driving ability, explain to me how its physically demanding? Its physically demanding to run around a track, not to push a pedal on a car that will take you like 200 mph.
I find it funny that you just described turning the steering wheel and pushing a pedal with your foot 'working yourself to the max for a solid 2 hours'. Please never play a real sport if you think driving is 'working yourself to the max'
Frood
11-17-2008, 06:45 PM
5g turns takes skill and driving ability, explain to me how its physically demanding? Its physically demanding to run around a track, not to push a pedal on a car that will take you like 200 mph.
I find it funny that you just described turning the steering wheel and pushing a pedal with your foot 'working yourself to the max for a solid 2 hours'. Please never play a real sport if you think driving is 'working yourself to the max'
you do knwo what I mean by 5g right? It means that your body gets pressed upa against the wall/back/harness at 5 times the power of gravity. It means that when you brake, a person in a formula one care takes (assuming they way about 120 pounds) 600 pounds of force. Now imagine doing that 4 times a minute, on top of being in over 100 degree temperatures. Professional drivers (formula one, anyways) spend time in the gym just like any other athlete, because you can't control those cars without being in excellent physical shape
Kara_Zor_El
11-17-2008, 06:48 PM
I would classify golf in the same category as pool (billiards). Both are hard and take a lot of practice but you don't need to be fit to play either. They are games, not sports.
I agree with this.
pantomime
11-18-2008, 01:41 AM
Have you ever seen a fat golfer be successful for an extended period of time?
Nick is cool
11-18-2008, 04:19 PM
you do knwo what I mean by 5g right? It means that your body gets pressed upa against the wall/back/harness at 5 times the power of gravity. It means that when you brake, a person in a formula one care takes (assuming they way about 120 pounds) 600 pounds of force. Now imagine doing that 4 times a minute, on top of being in over 100 degree temperatures. Professional drivers (formula one, anyways) spend time in the gym just like any other athlete, because you can't control those cars without being in excellent physical shape
The temperature im sure is very uncomfortable, but they are driving a car, while football teams are running sprints in the same heat for 6 hours a day during two and three a days.
And the weight thing sounds cool and stuff.. and im sure its really hard to get used to, but im still not sure if it qualifies it to be a sport. 600 pounds of that kindve force isnt like 300 pounds of nfl lineman trying to kill you. To each his own i guess.
Frood
11-18-2008, 11:30 PM
The temperature im sure is very uncomfortable, but they are driving a car, while football teams are running sprints in the same heat for 6 hours a day during two and three a days.
And the weight thing sounds cool and stuff.. and im sure its really hard to get used to, but im still not sure if it qualifies it to be a sport. 600 pounds of that kindve force isnt like 300 pounds of nfl lineman trying to kill you. To each his own i guess.
Yeah, it's twice as much!
It takes just as much coordination to control a car as it does to make a nifty maneuver with a hockey stick, it requires physical exertion, skill, and practice. I don't see how it doesn't count as a sport.
AsHopeDies
11-19-2008, 11:08 AM
Actually, those 300 pound linemen are moving and exerting force, and 300 pound linemen running and hitting you while you are running doesn't equal 300 pounds of force...dumbass. Furthermore, "I don't see how it doesn't count as a sport" is stretching it don't you think? It's hard for people to label something you do sitting on your ass as a sport. You are basically saying that you don't understand how there can be an argument against it, which is stupid.
Frood
11-19-2008, 03:52 PM
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Apparently, golf is a sport. Also, it has the worlds highest paid athlete fyi
You are basically saying that you don't understand how there can be an argument against it, which is stupid.
It meets the definition. I don't see how you can argue a definition. I'm pretty sure I've proven that it's a physical activity, it has a set of rules, and is often engaged in competitively.
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