View Full Version : Who killed JFK?
juststacisus
08-23-2004, 02:15 PM
I wanted to post this because I heard that everyone in america would answer lee harvey oswald(sp?) when asked, and that the movie JFK is banned there...is that true?
WestSide
08-23-2004, 02:17 PM
A dude with a sniper.
Albeano
08-23-2004, 02:18 PM
no the movie was not banned,
and JFK was shot by his driver in the chest, and some guy in the sewers in the head.
check out the "zapruder film"
droogsteve
08-23-2004, 02:21 PM
I wanted to post this because I heard that everyone in america would answer lee harvey oswald(sp?) when asked, and that the movie JFK is banned there...is that true?
No it's not true. They play JFK on Cinemax as well as local stations almost constantly because it's almost four hours long and helps fill out their crappy schedules. And many Americans, including myself, don't believe that Oswald acted alone.
b0ondocksa1nts
08-23-2004, 02:22 PM
I wanted to post this because I heard that everyone in america would answer lee harvey oswald(sp?) when asked, and that the movie JFK is banned there...is that true?
What do you guys answer, in whatever country you're in?
GuitarFan
08-23-2004, 02:23 PM
Nope, you guys are all wrong they didnt ban the film the just changed it because it told the real story :JFK was shot by his evil hermaphrodite, mutant, hemeroid suffering, jewlery selling twin. DIdnt you guys pay attention to anything in history :p
Mag58
08-23-2004, 02:25 PM
I heard that there were two sniper and that you can apparently see the figure of a man with a rifle in a bush beside a road in one of the films...
I saw a color video taking about 30 feet away from the vehicle when JFK was shot in the head. And it was some sick shit. You could see the blood spew out of his head as he goes limp...Sick shit
quazy50
08-23-2004, 02:27 PM
what i dont get is that ppl think he was shot from the back of the head, even tho the back of his head was blown apart and that had to be the exit wound because the entrance wound would be a small hole right?
b0ondocksa1nts
08-23-2004, 02:29 PM
what i dont get is that ppl think he was shot from the back of the head, even tho the back of his head was blown apart and that had to be the exit wound because the entrance wound would be a small hole right?
Depends on whether or not wizard prismatic spray was used. If you spray your bullets with it then it's the opposite, large entree wound, small exit wound.
Vigid
08-23-2004, 02:55 PM
I love KFC but ever since I saw that video of the KFC workers manhandling those chickens I haven't gone there since.
brainkandy87
08-23-2004, 02:58 PM
Just from seeing the Zapruder film, it's obvious one shot came from the front. The kinetic energy of the vehicle, along with the trajectory of the bullet caused his head to snap back. He was already leaning over. A bullet from the back would have nudged him to a side, but not changed his basic position. But, you mix in the forward motion, because the car began to speed up, and it makes the bullet's impact much greater. If the car was at a stand still, he still would have snapped back from a frontal bullet, but because of the motion, it makes it completely obvious it came from the front.
And, I've been up in that book depository and the wall in front of where the car was. Anyone who's ever shot a rifle knows how hard, next to impossible, it would be to accomplish what Oswald "accomplished" from that spot.
Where did you get that the movie was banned? :confused:
Albeano
08-23-2004, 03:02 PM
hey BK, in the zapruder film, only watch the driver and his hands.
you are in for a treat.
Skizla
08-23-2004, 03:04 PM
John Wilkes Booth.
:D
Rabid
08-23-2004, 04:44 PM
hey BK, in the zapruder film, only watch the driver and his hands.
you are in for a treat.
I watched but couldn't see anything...I saw the driver turn sideways but never saw a gun or anything.
Albeano
08-23-2004, 04:47 PM
I watched but couldn't see anything...I saw the driver turn sideways but never saw a gun or anything.
If you get a quality version, you can see that right before the final shot, the driver turns right, and in his left hand there is a small handgun, he proceeds to shootkennedy in the chest, causing him to slump over... then his head popped.
macks_shedroom
08-23-2004, 05:15 PM
i have stood at the library when oswald popped jfk off and its an easy shot to make. looks big on tv, but i could have shot off the bras straps of jackie kennedy and still had time for breakfast before opening up jfks fat square head like a wet doughnut.
from what ive heard brothers it was a guy called maurice honk. a sharp shooter from austin texas, who had a steel in his eye and a limp cock in his pants. he stood for ethics like you never saw before.
brothers, this is what happened. it was a long time ago in alabahma when mr and mrs e. honk first knew their son was a killer. "well he took out two pill boxes and a machine gun next at kindergarden and still had time to pillage the rusk laden 5th column of hitlers waffen ss.
this is how the war in the west was won.
Golom
08-23-2004, 05:17 PM
The mob killed JFK plain and simple.
Rabid
08-23-2004, 05:19 PM
If you get a quality version, you can see that right before the final shot, the driver turns right, and in his left hand there is a small handgun, he proceeds to shootkennedy in the chest, causing him to slump over... then his head popped.
http://jfkmurdersolved.com/zapruder.htm
Go to the stablized version and view it in full screen. That "gun" was the reflection of the guys hair...Read that site...the entire thing. Then you can't disigree with me. How can a small handgun send his skull into pieces? Read that site now.
reptilian_storm
08-23-2004, 05:23 PM
NWO owned his ass in my opinion for not conforming to there wishes and putting a world government in jepody. ;)
Or maybe,
Professor. Plum, with the revolver found in the bathroom.
Bajee
08-23-2004, 05:38 PM
Just from seeing the Zapruder film, it's obvious one shot came from the front. The kinetic energy of the vehicle, along with the trajectory of the bullet caused his head to snap back. He was already leaning over. A bullet from the back would have nudged him to a side, but not changed his basic position. But, you mix in the forward motion, because the car began to speed up, and it makes the bullet's impact much greater. If the car was at a stand still, he still would have snapped back from a frontal bullet, but because of the motion, it makes it completely obvious it came from the front.
And, I've been up in that book depository and the wall in front of where the car was. Anyone who's ever shot a rifle knows how hard, next to impossible, it would be to accomplish what Oswald "accomplished" from that spot.
Where did you get that the movie was banned? :confused:
Thats not completely true. I saw a extreme slow motion video of the Zapruder film. What actualy happens is his heas whips forward for a second, his jaw strikes his chest and sends his head rebounding backwards. Ill try and dig that video up, it completely changed my opinion.
And about the difficulty of the shot, its not that hard.Ive seen 3 recreations of it and each time the person had equal if not better results. Calculations were made and apparently he was close enough that he didnt even need to lead the target at all.
If you get a quality version, you can see that right before the final shot, the driver turns right, and in his left hand there is a small handgun, he proceeds to shootkennedy in the chest, causing him to slump over... then his head popped.
That is completely ridiculous, first of all, ive seen the autopsy pictures and there was no hole in his chest, he had a hole in his neck, and a quarter of his head was torn off. That theory is 100% retarded, someone else in the car would of heard the shot. And about the guy in the sewers, on discovery channel they tested out that theory. Not only could a person in the sewers not even bring a rifle up to there shoulder, they couldnt even see kennedy. And the two sewers on the bridge werent even built yet.
Chewy
08-23-2004, 05:46 PM
I think we need ot get some help on this one. I think we should call
these guys (http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html) up. Let them figure this one out.
Bajee
08-23-2004, 05:47 PM
I think we need ot get some help on this one. I think we should call
these guys (http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html) up. Let them figure this one out.
Dude i love that fucking show, it owns.
Chewy
08-23-2004, 05:48 PM
Dude i love that fucking show, it owns.
ya I love they way the do shit. I want that job.
poopchow
08-23-2004, 07:03 PM
Just from seeing the Zapruder film, it's obvious one shot came from the front. The kinetic energy of the vehicle, along with the trajectory of the bullet caused his head to snap back. He was already leaning over. A bullet from the back would have nudged him to a side, but not changed his basic position. But, you mix in the forward motion, because the car began to speed up, and it makes the bullet's impact much greater. If the car was at a stand still, he still would have snapped back from a frontal bullet, but because of the motion, it makes it completely obvious it came from the front.
And, I've been up in that book depository and the wall in front of where the car was. Anyone who's ever shot a rifle knows how hard, next to impossible, it would be to accomplish what Oswald "accomplished" from that spot.
Where did you get that the movie was banned? :confused:
He snapped back because JFK had a back brace on. JFK had a shitty back and the long talks with the Premier from Russia made it worse. I saw it on the Hizitory Channel.
So instead of falling forward he snapped back and gave the shooter another chance to shoot.
MGselwonK
08-23-2004, 07:16 PM
lee harvey oswald acted alone
three shots were fired, the first one missed
the second one entered kennedys back and hit his spine, causing his jaw to become locked and his hands to lock into a position at the side of his head, you can see that this is what happens in the zapruder film
the second bullet went through kennedy and then into the texas governor's arm, it went along his arm and deflected when it hit his wrist, it then lodged itself into his leg
the third bullet hit kennedy in the neck and came out the front of his face, along with the rest of his face
oswald then walked out of the texas school book depository, and walked several blocks past his normal busstop and went to one not near the crimescene he then boarded a bus, the bus got stopped in traffic because of the assassination, he got off
he was stopped by a cop later on(forgot what reason) he got nervous and shot the cop with a bunch of witnesses in the street
after that he went snuck into a movie theater to hide out, the cops arrested him there
i might have gotten a part of this wrong, but oswald was acting alone
killjoy
08-23-2004, 08:08 PM
if Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman, then why are there still many Archived documents that are connectet to the case labeled top secret . Face it, parts of the american goverment did it (CIA).
macks_shedroom
08-23-2004, 08:13 PM
lee harvey oswald acted alone
three shots were fired, the first one missed
the second one entered kennedys back and hit his spine, causing his jaw to become locked and his hands to lock into a position at the side of his head, you can see that this is what happens in the zapruder film
the second bullet went through kennedy and then into the texas governor's arm, it went along his arm and deflected when it hit his wrist, it then lodged itself into his leg
the third bullet hit kennedy in the neck and came out the front of his face, along with the rest of his face
oswald then walked out of the texas school book depository, and walked several blocks past his normal busstop and went to one not near the crimescene he then boarded a bus, the bus got stopped in traffic because of the assassination, he got off
he was stopped by a cop later on(forgot what reason) he got nervous and shot the cop with a bunch of witnesses in the street
after that he went snuck into a movie theater to hide out, the cops arrested him there
i might have gotten a part of this wrong, but oswald was acting alone
this is more like it. a proper opinion with the possible truth in it. that book depository shot is not that difficult.. ive been up there. its regular shot, though he was moving. he caught him with a lucky last head shot. theres no mob stuff. thats probably crap.
PsiRedEye22
08-23-2004, 08:18 PM
if Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman, then why are there still many Archived documents that are connectet to the case labeled top secret . Face it, parts of the american goverment did it (CIA).
That means NOTHING of the sort. There are top secret files about Area 51. Don't mean aliens exist.
moosenuts
08-23-2004, 08:19 PM
To quote a great song....Reps to who figures it out.
I shouted out "Who killed the Kennedy's?" when after all
it was you and me
I think Lee Harvey Oswald did it not the CIA or the Mafia... damn acults.
killjoy
08-23-2004, 08:26 PM
To quote a great song....Reps to who figures it out.
I shouted out "Who killed the Kennedy's?" when after all
it was you and me
I think Lee Harvey Oswald did it not the CIA or the Mafia... damn acults.
the Stones?
here are some links about the goverment ASSASSINATION :D
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/jfk
And more important, the way almost all the witnesses died.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/deaths.html
Caveman
08-23-2004, 08:30 PM
The mob killed JFK plain and simple.
Yep, that’s what I believe. JFK was always messing around with other women, and one of those women was a mob daughter...You can figure out the rest.
brainkandy87
08-23-2004, 08:43 PM
Yep, that’s what I believe. JFK was always messing around with other women, and one of those women was a mob daughter...You can figure out the rest.
Hot, Italian sex?
killjoy
08-23-2004, 08:46 PM
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Golom
08-23-2004, 08:51 PM
actually the kennedy family got alot of its political power from the teamsters/mob. There were always rumored to be some sort of connection between the 2. Then JFK once seated in the presidents seat started publically backing some bill that was a hard hit to both the teamsters and organized crime. I remember a college professer saying something about the bullet trajectory path and the geometrics didnt make sence even if bouncing around the only feesable answer was mulitple bullets from a different direction.
When the day is done who knows what really happend. I think we will find out in the next 20 years.
Chewy
08-23-2004, 09:10 PM
See in Canada nope messes with our PM cause if you do he'll gut you like trout!link (http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/031112/n1112121A.html)
poopchow
08-23-2004, 09:36 PM
See in Canada nope messes with our PM cause if you do he'll gut you like trout!link (http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/031112/n1112121A.html)
Or maybe they dont even know who is PM.
Bajee
08-23-2004, 11:06 PM
To quote a great song....Reps to who figures it out.
I shouted out "Who killed the Kennedy's?" when after all
it was you and me
I think Lee Harvey Oswald did it not the CIA or the Mafia... damn acults.
The Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the devil
moosenuts
08-23-2004, 11:08 PM
The Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the devil
To late sir....
Plus I'm still trying to learn what sarcasm is.... :mad:
Bajee
08-23-2004, 11:45 PM
To late sir....
Plus I'm still trying to learn what sarcasm is.... :mad:
Oh quit the bitching, i negative rep so many ppl its insane.
Chewy
08-24-2004, 12:05 AM
I heard a rumour once that the Kebler Elves hand a small hand in the Kennedy thing?
juststacisus
08-24-2004, 06:52 AM
After seeing all the online stuff about it and the film on it, it amuses me that anyone can think it was lee harvey oswald, i think he was framed...
killjoy
08-24-2004, 05:18 PM
After seeing all the online stuff about it and the film on it, it amuses me that anyone can think it was lee harvey oswald, i think he was framed...
i think the reason why people in america dont demand a Real investigation (not like that joke warren commission) is that the trouth that lurks underneth the surface hurts too much. :(
MightyMichu
08-26-2004, 11:33 AM
He might have been killed by Oswald.
He might have been killed by another sniper.
But I can tell you what didn't kill him.......Smoking!
brainkandy87
08-26-2004, 11:34 AM
He might have been killed by Oswald.
He might have been killed by another sniper.
But I can tell you what didn't kill him.......Smoking!
Maybe it was Patton Oswald.
MGselwonK
08-26-2004, 11:46 AM
ok
let me get this straight
fact number 1) there is conclusive evidence that oswald was the only shooter
fact number 2) there are conspiracy theories saying otherwise
conclusion: People are idiots
the conspiracy theorists keep using ridiculous circular logic
"how do you know there is a conspiracy?"
"because the zapruder film was altered"
"how do you know it was altered"
"thats the only thing that fits the conspiracy"
for the love of god, one guy even convinced oswalds ex-wife that the oswald that shot kennedy was really a look-alike russian, they dug up oswalds body(with the wifes permission) and checked the dental records
guess what?
"The conspiracy is so big they dug up his body and changed his dental records to match the real oswald"
its fucking retarded
there were around 40 tapes of kennedys ride through the plaza, only the zapruder film shows the actual assassination
it shows clearly that 1) There was a shot(no data where it came from, hit nobody)
2) There was a second shot that came from behind kennedy, hit his back and was probably fired from the TSBD
3) There was a third shot that came from behind, exploded his head, and it also was probably fired from the TSBD
all these conspiracy theorists say that oswald was framed, why then did he shoot a cop just for being questioned
brainkandy87
08-26-2004, 11:54 AM
there were around 40 tapes of kennedys ride through the plaza, only the zapruder film shows the actual assassination
Maybe that's because you had agents running through the street taking people's film?
killjoy
08-26-2004, 12:47 PM
for those that are interested. Download this good quality documentary (The Men Who Killed Kennedy). it can be downloaded from suprnova.org with bittorrent.
if you are new to this, here is the dl client http://bittornado.com/ dl and indstall, then click here
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1918/The%20Men%20Who%20Killed%20Kennedy.torrent
its a big file 2323 mb 6 episodes, but its worth it. :)
MGselwonK you should really see this documentary, 6 episodes 6 hours tv-rip. :confused:
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