XP 64-Bit question

[aooga12]

Well I just got a new motherboard for one of my xmas gifts ( MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum) and i obviously have to setup the new bios and wipe out whats on my harddrive. BUUUT, going back to xp 32-bit i can't use the 4gb ram i'm going to buy. So basically i might torrent the 64 version. So the question is, if i torrent 64 bit xp, will there be any problems just because its a torrented OS? Or to avoid those so called problems, where cani get 64 bit xp < $100?...
:banghead:

[pokemasterflex]

Newegg, Ebay, Tigerdirect

[aooga12]

Newegg, Ebay, Tigerdirect

i'll check newegg, ebay? maybee... tigerdirect sorta screwed me when my case came DOA.

edit: another question... will all my programs/games/shit work fine with 64 bit or what?

[WonderFunk]

yeah everything will work fine, 64bit emulates a 32-bit architecture for programs that don't support 64bit.
Also how does a case come DOA, unless it was all shredded up to the point where you can't mount anything in it.

[cobra_man]

I am possibly running a pirated version of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. And I might not have had any problems so far.

[Wozza]

I am possibly running a pirated version of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. And I might not have had any problems so far.

I'm not doing this either

[aooga12]

yeah everything will work fine, 64bit emulates a 32-bit architecture for programs that don't support 64bit.
Also how does a case come DOA, unless it was all shredded up to the point where you can't mount anything in it.

technically not DOA... but the fans on the top of the case were FUCKED... the cables that make em' run were disconnected, and just alskdfjaioperuweo rjfl....

so this is what i just bought...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100009

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103234

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103050

all for 150$!!

this is my case too.. (that broke)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3911521&CatId=1842

[Fag Boy]

64bit driver support on XP is ok, but really not that good, the 64bit support for vista though is much better.

[WonderFunk]

technically not DOA... but the fans on the top of the case were FUCKED... the cables that make em' run were disconnected, and just alskdfjaioperuweo rjfl....

so this is what i just bought...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100009

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103234

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103050

all for 150$!!

this is my case too.. (that broke)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3911521&CatId=1842

your case never broke, just the fans, simply buy some new and better fans and replace
them. also in what way were the fans disconnected?

[h4z4rd]

yeah everything will work fine, 64bit emulates a 32-bit architecture for programs that don't support 64bit.

No. Not all 32-bit programs are compatible with a 64 bit OS. To be honest i've found that most 32-bit programs out there do not support 64 bit architecture. Most newer programs available now actually check if your computer has a 64-bit processor and if it does then it does not install the program at all. The compatibility mode doesn't remedy this problem either.

Edit:

As for OP's qustion, Windows XP comes with Windows Genuine Advantage which is a program that actively seeks out your Window's product key to make sure it's valid. So unless you want to spend your time hacking that feature, you might be better off purchasing an actual CD so you can get free security updates with no problems.

[WonderFunk]

No. Not all 32-bit programs are compatible with a 64 bit OS. To be honest i've found that most 32-bit programs out there do not support 64 bit architecture. Most newer programs available now actually check if your computer has a 64-bit processor and if it does then it does not install the program at all. The compatibility mode doesn't remedy this problem either.

Edit:

As for OP's qustion, Windows XP comes with Windows Genuine Advantage which is a program that actively seeks out your Window's product key to make sure it's valid. So unless you want to spend your time hacking that feature, you might be better off purchasing an actual CD so you can get free security updates with no problems.

actually, with 64bit vista it doesn't matter if the program you use is 32 bit or 64 bit since it's emulated. Only things that edit your registry or drivers matter if they are in the proper architecture, if anything old 32bit programs get a little messed up since they can't read more than 3 gigs of memory and end up using very little and not running at full potential.

[h4z4rd]

actually, with 64bit vista it doesn't matter if the program you use is 32 bit or 64 bit since it's emulated. Only things that edit your registry or drivers matter if they are in the proper architecture, if anything old 32bit programs get a little messed up since they can't read more than 3 gigs of memory and end up using very little and not running at full potential.

Like I said not all 32-bit programs work with 64-bit OSes, including Vista. It's all dependent on the program...a lot of programs out now check your system specs and will not install if they detect a 64 bit operating system.

[zigamabob]

Well I just got a new motherboard for one of my xmas gifts ( MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum) and i obviously have to setup the new bios and wipe out whats on my harddrive. BUUUT, going back to xp 32-bit i can't use the 4gb ram i'm going to buy. So basically i might torrent the 64 version. So the question is, if i torrent 64 bit xp, will there be any problems just because its a torrented OS? Or to avoid those so called problems, where cani get 64 bit xp < $100?...
:banghead:

Nice, I just finished buying that motherboard off of newegg. By the way even the 32 bit xp will read up to 4 gigs of ram. It's only if you want to go higher than that do you need to get up to the 64 bit systems. I'm running 4 gigs of ram right now on XP.

[CSPope]

No. Not all 32-bit programs are compatible with a 64 bit OS. To be honest i've found that most 32-bit programs out there do not support 64 bit architecture. Most newer programs available now actually check if your computer has a 64-bit processor and if it does then it does not install the program at all. The compatibility mode doesn't remedy this problem either.

Edit:

As for OP's qustion, Windows XP comes with Windows Genuine Advantage which is a program that actively seeks out your Window's product key to make sure it's valid. So unless you want to spend your time hacking that feature, you might be better off purchasing an actual CD so you can get free security updates with no problems.

=/ I've found that Vista x64 can run most programs just fine. The only program I've had a problem with is 32 bit GIMP but it ran, just couldn't see what I was selecting properly with the wand tool. They released a 64 bit version of GIMP now though and it seems fine.

You can obtain it illegally if you want (most are activated too) and if you want to keep updated you can just download new versions over and over. Just make sure you don't download stuff from Microsoft.com b/c it'll require a authenticity check. However, you can download all that stuff elsewere on the internet without having to do the check. Google is your friend for that matter.

[aooga12]

actually, with 64bit vista it doesn't matter if the program you use is 32 bit or 64 bit since it's emulated. Only things that edit your registry or drivers matter if they are in the proper architecture, if anything old 32bit programs get a little messed up since they can't read more than 3 gigs of memory and end up using very little and not running at full potential.

the reason i want 4gb is to run crysis warhead smoother, and to be able to multitask while gaming, like play wow and listen to music or w.e...

oh and wonderfunk, like they had 2 on the top of the case and what happened was both of them fell off completely and the connectors on the top had their wires (that connected to the fan(s)) disconnected, and if i sodder it, they might work but my dad is talking with the company on wtf to do.

Nice, I just finished buying that motherboard off of newegg. By the way even the 32 bit xp will read up to 4 gigs of ram. It's only if you want to go higher than that do you need to get up to the 64 bit systems. I'm running 4 gigs of ram right now on XP.

but from what wonderfunk said i'd rather do 64bit, but thanks for the info. you might be running 4gb, but it might not be utilizing it. :ahhh:

[CSPope]

the reason i want 4gb is to run crysis warhead smoother, and to be able to multitask while gaming, like play wow and listen to music or w.e...

oh and wonderfunk, like they had 2 on the top of the case and what happened was both of them fell off completely and the connectors on the top had their wires (that connected to the fan(s)) disconnected, and if i sodder it, they might work but my dad is talking with the company on wtf to do.



but from what wonderfunk said i'd rather do 64bit, but thanks for the info. you might be running 4gb, but it might not be utilizing it. :ahhh:

Crysis Wars runs great on 64 bit. I have the same cpu as you too. Just make sure to install the patch and then launch the 64 bit executable.

Loaded so fast I was like =O

[diablo234]

my advice, if you want 64 bit go vista, because everyone who is wise enough knows that 64 bit XP blows.

[aooga12]

Crysis Wars runs great on 64 bit. I have the same cpu as you too. Just make sure to install the patch and then launch the 64 bit executable.

Loaded so fast I was like =O

like right click and there should be an option or something?

[Adizzle]

why not buy another cheap hard drive and make a dual boot OS?

that way you can use the 64 bit os most of the time and then boot the xp anytime you have probs with the 64 bit os.

One thing with 64 bit OS is that the driver support isn't always there for what you have in your PC. make sure you check the manufactures websites for all the drivers before you wipe your current hard drive. download all drivers you will need or at the very least the drivers for your NIC or on board LAN so you can access the internet once it's installed. then you can update any drivers after that, and you WILL need to update things if you want it to run as smoothly as possible.

you would think running a 64 bit OS would be more supported since most cpu's are 64 bit now, but hey i guess it's a good way to keep selling both 32 bit and 64 bit things to all us suckers :D



edit: oh when i said about the dual boot OS having xp that's assuming you are running vista 64 bit and windows xp 32 bit. and dual boot won't slow your shit down at all, just have to take twice as long to install the 2 OS and as diablo said.... not installing XP 64 bit is the obvious answer.... it's pure shit and you will most likely break multiple things in your house out of frustration with trying to get everything to run properly.

[Fag Boy]

Nice, I just finished buying that motherboard off of newegg. By the way even the 32 bit xp will read up to 4 gigs of ram. It's only if you want to go higher than that do you need to get up to the 64 bit systems. I'm running 4 gigs of ram right now on XP.

No, 32bit XP or Vista will NOT see 4gb of ram, im not sure why you would think it would. It will only see about 3.5gb.

why not buy another cheap hard drive and make a dual boot OS?

that way you can use the 64 bit os most of the time and then boot the xp anytime you have probs with the 64 bit os.

One thing with 64 bit OS is that the driver support isn't always there for what you have in your PC. make sure you check the manufactures websites for all the drivers before you wipe your current hard drive. download all drivers you will need or at the very least the drivers for your NIC or on board LAN so you can access the internet once it's installed. then you can update any drivers after that, and you WILL need to update things if you want it to run as smoothly as possible.

you would think running a 64 bit OS would be more supported since most cpu's are 64 bit now, but hey i guess it's a good way to keep selling both 32 bit and 64 bit things to all us suckers :D



edit: oh when i said about the dual boot OS having xp that's assuming you are running vista 64 bit and windows xp 32 bit. and dual boot won't slow your shit down at all, just have to take twice as long to install the 2 OS and as diablo said.... not installing XP 64 bit is the obvious answer.... it's pure shit and you will most likely break multiple things in your house out of frustration with trying to get everything to run properly.


or you could just make two partitions on the one drive

[zigamabob]

No, 32bit XP or Vista will NOT see 4gb of ram, im not sure why you would think it would. It will only see about 3.5gb.




or you could just make two partitions on the one drive

Hmm when I check the system info it says that I have 4 gbs of memory. I assumed that if it was able to recognize the 4 gigs it would also use it.

[CSPope]

like right click and there should be an option or something?

Browse to the program folder:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\Crytek\Crysis Wars\

and then open the folder called bin64 and launch the game executable in there (Crysis.exe). You probably should also make a shortcut to it and place it on your desktop.

[tonythetiger]

the only thing i dont like about 64bit is that there is no flash. Seriously Adobe, wtf.

[WonderFunk]

Hmm when I check the system info it says that I have 4 gbs of memory. I assumed that if it was able to recognize the 4 gigs it would also use it.

It can see the 4gigs, but it cannot use all of it, before my switch to 64bit (which was fantastic) it said i had 4 but when i checked for memory that was actually able to be used only 2.5 was available.

[JesusTheJedi]

the only thing i dont like about 64bit is that there is no flash. Seriously Adobe, wtf.

No flash plugins you means? Fffuuuu.

I am trying to decide if it is worth the headache to go Vista x64 or not

[elliott678]

the only thing i dont like about 64bit is that there is no flash. Seriously Adobe, wtf.

You're kidding right? Adobe has released Flash for 64-bit Linux already, they must have it for Windows.

[aooga12]

You're kidding right? Adobe has released Flash for 64-bit Linux already, they must have it for Windows.

im going to check right now.

just did a little googling and he seems to be correct... noooo flash 64 bit... so what does this mean for us 64 bit xp'ers really?

[tonythetiger]

We can use 32bit Firefox or IE that can use flash, it just runs really slow. Adobe says on their website that they will release a 64bit flash right after version 10.

[Fag Boy]

You're kidding right? Adobe has released Flash for 64-bit Linux already, they must have it for Windows.

for some reason adobe thinks 64bit linux is more a market then 64bit windows, its not really that big of an issue anyways.

[elliott678]

for some reason adobe thinks 64bit linux is more a market then 64bit windows, its not really that big of an issue anyways.
They must think Solaris, running on both Sparc and x86 architectures, is more of a market than 64bit Windows too.

These aren't final releases, but they are working pretty well from what I've heard.