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_V_
02-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Okay, so I've read some funny arguments in the past. but I actually want to participate this time.

For those of you who think CoD takes a greater amount of skill than Halo 3.

Convince me. Because it isn't true.

Krippled By Kush
02-12-2009, 06:14 PM
cod for sure, i used to like halo better but i like very differently now.

tonythetiger
02-12-2009, 07:41 PM
I'm a PC gamer so I'd rather play Call of Duty. Halo 2 was fun playing with friends and just fucking around but I liked COD's online community better than Xbox Live's

DarcSystems
02-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Well for one, you have realistic abilities in COD. None of these magical jet cars and shit you can run people down with. Halo is more based on the spray and pray method. Running around in a fairly open arena, blasting your guns. CoD, not so much. It's a more realistic environment. Involves more tactics. I was a huge fan of Halo when it came out. I still am. I was not as impressed with Halo 3 personally, but I really enjoyed Call of Duty 4. Excellent game. I haven't played 5 yet, but I hear all good things.

clutch-monkey
02-12-2009, 08:20 PM
you might not like 5 as much darc, it has some cool features, but it's just...sub-par compared to 4.
halo always struck me as a battle of attrition, wearing down each other's shields. it's fun, but if the other team fucks up and you ambush them you can probably only kill one to two of them (weapons being equal). whereas in COD you could take out more - not as forgiving so to speak.

Nick is cool
02-12-2009, 10:26 PM
After playing alot and being very good at both halo3 and cod4, id have to say that when elite halo players get into games and they try to out BR eachother and stuff it takes ALOT of skill, and its very hard to be good at. I could play with the best cod4 players on gamebattles but i doubt i could play halo with the best halo players. I was better at COD, but still.


But if your just playing average games, halo takes almost no skill. Kids i know who suck at video games and have never played halo can go into a social slayer game and go like 7 kills 12 deaths. The same kids will go 2-25 in a call of duty game. Most of my friends started with a below .5 ratio in COD.. and in halo they would start their career out with a 10 win game.


MLG events in halo = take alot of skill

regular halo games (95% of people) = not much skill


cod = always need skill



(im assuming you mean halo3 vs cod4... fuck cod waw)

_V_
02-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Well for one, you have realistic abilities in COD. None of these magical jet cars and shit you can run people down with. Halo is more based on the spray and pray method. Running around in a fairly open arena, blasting your guns. CoD, not so much. It's a more realistic environment. Involves more tactics. I was a huge fan of Halo when it came out. I still am. I was not as impressed with Halo 3 personally, but I really enjoyed Call of Duty 4. Excellent game. I haven't played 5 yet, but I hear all good things.

Mmm, you must not be playing against very good teams if you can just run out into an open area shooting haha.

A few things I don't like about CoD...

1. Reaction time is basically out the window. Sure there are the cases where you both round a corner, but god forid the other guy sees you even a little before you do. Basically all FPS games require nice twitch reaction time to be good. Due the almost comical amount of health your provided with CoD doesn't give you time to react. Instead of going, "Oh! I'm getting shot! Jump! Grenade! Gotta get behind that wall and force him through that other entrance." You only get..."I'm getting sh- FUCK!".

2. Back to the health pool. I agree Halo is just a little high for my taste. I'd rather have it high, wasting a who clip on a guy just to have him get away, then have it so low that it's just stupid. Either give players more health, or have less people per team. Even in a Deathmatch game, there are way to many people for the size of the map, and the health we have. Don't even think about running out into ANY open area if you have a death wish, or have triple checked there is no one posting up in a building ready to kill you. Sometimes I find myself camping one spot until I get a UAV or another person on my team gets it.

3. Weapons, weapons, weapons. One of the most annoying thing about CoD is that you can CHOOSE whichever weapon you want to start with. What is that? For a map like Creek, basically EVERYONE snipes. Which then pigeonholes ME into sniping if I don't want to get fucked up every time I poke my head out. What if I want to work on my MP5 or my Scorpion? The counter opposite to this is Vacant. In Halo, good people get good weapons. Even if some shitty person gets the Sniper, for example, he's just gonna get killed by a better player who actually knows how to use the weapon and get kills with it. Don't act like you've never been mad when everyone on the other team choses an M16...

FunnyFreak
02-16-2009, 12:37 PM
CoD4 4 was better than all of the Halo games. I didn't really enjoy them too much, but I loved playing CoD4

_V_
02-16-2009, 01:45 PM
CoD4 4 was better than all of the Halo games. I didn't really enjoy them too much, but I loved playing CoD4

I bet. CoD4 is the only game where you can mindlessly play and still have an even KD ratio. That's a good self esteem booster.

zigamabob
02-16-2009, 01:59 PM
I enjoyed CoD4 for a while but then all of the little stupid things started to annoy me. It's supposedly a "realistic" game but the guns are nowhere near realistic neither is the physics. I didn't know in the middle of a battle killing three people gives me the ability to call a UAV or then after getting an airstrike then a helicopter. I also didn't know there were these magic bullets that could go through brick wall. Or grenades that kill you around corners and through other walls.

I actually like realistic games like Rainbow6 or older Ghost Recons where it's only a couple of shots and you're dead but CoD just butchered that whole idea. If they wanted to have a perk system and all this other crap that would usually lead into a massive frag and killfest they should of made it more arcadish. Give people more health and let them run around.

I don't even play Halo that often now but atleast I know what I'm gonna get when I play it. Sure people will spam grenades and shoot rockets etc. But atleast I can take a grenade landing a few feet away from me and still survive. CoD if you are anywhere within a 10 mile radius you will die from the nuclear blast of that grenade. And I only mean Cod4. Cod 1 + 2 were both really awesome games. Cod3 wasn't even worth buying.
/rant

_V_
02-16-2009, 02:15 PM
I don't even play Halo that often now but atleast I know what I'm gonna get when I play it. Sure people will spam grenades and shoot rockets etc. But atleast I can take a grenade landing a few feet away from me and still survive. CoD if you are anywhere within a 10 mile radius you will die from the nuclear blast of that grenade. And I only mean Cod4. Cod 1 + 2 were both really awesome games. Cod3 wasn't even worth buying.
/rant

/agreed

But just to answer a common misconception. Yes, there are grenades that people throw which is very survivable, you just have to be aware and make sure to jump.

You're not the first person though to say that all people do is spam rockets. Although that does happen, rockets only come with 4 shots, then it's done. It's also on a really long re spawn timer. I can't remember what it is, but I think it might be 3 minutes or something. So no, you're never going to get completely spammed by rockets every time you round a corner.

It's not like CoD4 where you just start off with a fresh batch of rockets (and any other weapon for that matter) every time you die ;)

FearMe
02-16-2009, 04:39 PM
CoD.
CoD.
CoD.
<3

_V_
02-16-2009, 08:33 PM
CoD.
CoD.
CoD.
<3

Aww I'm sorry :(

pwnag3
02-16-2009, 08:54 PM
i guess i'm not geeky enough to jerk off to halo like some people do. I got it, played it for a month because my buddy had it then got bored of it. Nothing special, i could name 10 fps off the top of my cock that makes halo look like it was made by helen keller.

Elephant
02-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Mmm, you must not be playing against very good teams if you can just run out into an open area shooting haha.

A few things I don't like about CoD...

1. Reaction time is basically out the window. Sure there are the cases where you both round a corner, but god forid the other guy sees you even a little before you do. Basically all FPS games require nice twitch reaction time to be good. Due the almost comical amount of health your provided with CoD doesn't give you time to react. Instead of going, "Oh! I'm getting shot! Jump! Grenade! Gotta get behind that wall and force him through that other entrance." You only get..."I'm getting sh- FUCK!".

2. Back to the health pool. I agree Halo is just a little high for my taste. I'd rather have it high, wasting a who clip on a guy just to have him get away, then have it so low that it's just stupid. Either give players more health, or have less people per team. Even in a Deathmatch game, there are way to many people for the size of the map, and the health we have. Don't even think about running out into ANY open area if you have a death wish, or have triple checked there is no one posting up in a building ready to kill you. Sometimes I find myself camping one spot until I get a UAV or another person on my team gets it.

3. Weapons, weapons, weapons. One of the most annoying thing about CoD is that you can CHOOSE whichever weapon you want to start with. What is that? For a map like Creek, basically EVERYONE snipes. Which then pigeonholes ME into sniping if I don't want to get fucked up every time I poke my head out. What if I want to work on my MP5 or my Scorpion? The counter opposite to this is Vacant. In Halo, good people get good weapons. Even if some shitty person gets the Sniper, for example, he's just gonna get killed by a better player who actually knows how to use the weapon and get kills with it. Don't act like you've never been mad when everyone on the other team choses an M16...

1. What? if anything cod relies more on twitch reaction because you have less health

2. Meh, personal preference

3. What? You must not be very good. You should be happy when everybody snipes, easier for you to use an SMG. Also in halo you often start with a BR, the best weapon of halo 3. You then have power weapons which everyone whores and makes the game blow.

Nick is cool
02-16-2009, 10:07 PM
I bet. CoD4 is the only game where you can mindlessly play and still have an even KD ratio. That's a good self esteem booster.




Its the complete opposite.. any scrub can get kills on social slayer.

SmokedYaNerd
02-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Well it took me a lot longer to get good at halo than cod... Cod seems a lot easier.

_V_
02-17-2009, 12:35 AM
1. What? if anything cod relies more on twitch reaction because you have less health

3. What? You must not be very good. You should be happy when everybody snipes, easier for you to use an SMG. Also in halo you often start with a BR, the best weapon of halo 3. You then have power weapons which everyone whores and makes the game blow.

Haha, there is a difference between twitch reaction time and super human reaction time. The thing you have to understand is that in CoD if you get shot at you don't GET time to react, or even run for cover for that matter. Being able to counter someone firing at you either makes you a God, or the other player just sucks.

The example I stated before was for Creek, especially if you're on cave side. You get one. JUST ONE. Way of avoiding sniper fire on that side, and that is obviously going through the cave. Where in all the games I've been in a sniper is positioned so that he can see people whenever they run out of the cave for an easy kill.

And as for your halo example. You can hardly compare the BR to the M16. I mean seriously.

To kill a player with the BR it take 4 shots to the HEAD to kill.
For the M16...one shot to the UPPER TORSO area. I mean common, and this is a weapon you start with.

As for "whoring" weapons. Power weapons are mainly on a 3 minute respawn timer. Not only that. A lot of those weapons won't respawn unless you DROP the weapon. Which means no "whoring" the weapon and restocking on ammo.

clutch-monkey
02-17-2009, 06:17 AM
imo the only way to play halo is with random weapons. like, players start with random primary and secondary weapons, with random weapons on the map.
stops the rush for the good weapons/camping over the weapon spawns.
COD takes it a little too far with players choosing weapons, but it's still better htan the rush for rockets etc etc..

_V_
02-17-2009, 12:21 PM
imo the only way to play halo is with random weapons. like, players start with random primary and secondary weapons, with random weapons on the map.
stops the rush for the good weapons/camping over the weapon spawns.
COD takes it a little too far with players choosing weapons, but it's still better htan the rush for rockets etc etc..

Oh now we're just getting too picky. Sure there is a rush for good weapons, but that only starts in the beginning of the match. If you're going to let the beginning rush ruin the game for you then go ahead. As for camping the weapon spawns. No. That won't happen.

Danner
02-17-2009, 01:44 PM
Mmm, you must not be playing against very good teams if you can just run out into an open area shooting haha.

A few things I don't like about CoD...

1. Reaction time is basically out the window. Sure there are the cases where you both round a corner, but god forid the other guy sees you even a little before you do. Basically all FPS games require nice twitch reaction time to be good. Due the almost comical amount of health your provided with CoD doesn't give you time to react. Instead of going, "Oh! I'm getting shot! Jump! Grenade! Gotta get behind that wall and force him through that other entrance." You only get..."I'm getting sh- FUCK!".

2. Back to the health pool. I agree Halo is just a little high for my taste. I'd rather have it high, wasting a who clip on a guy just to have him get away, then have it so low that it's just stupid. Either give players more health, or have less people per team. Even in a Deathmatch game, there are way to many people for the size of the map, and the health we have. Don't even think about running out into ANY open area if you have a death wish, or have triple checked there is no one posting up in a building ready to kill you. Sometimes I find myself camping one spot until I get a UAV or another person on my team gets it.

3. Weapons, weapons, weapons. One of the most annoying thing about CoD is that you can CHOOSE whichever weapon you want to start with. What is that? For a map like Creek, basically EVERYONE snipes. Which then pigeonholes ME into sniping if I don't want to get fucked up every time I poke my head out. What if I want to work on my MP5 or my Scorpion? The counter opposite to this is Vacant. In Halo, good people get good weapons. Even if some shitty person gets the Sniper, for example, he's just gonna get killed by a better player who actually knows how to use the weapon and get kills with it. Don't act like you've never been mad when everyone on the other team choses an M16...

Wow! I don't agree with a single thing you just said. Exact opposite of what I like in a FPS. Polar Opposite!! Any way, to each his own.

_V_
02-17-2009, 02:01 PM
Wow! I don't agree with a single thing you just said. Exact opposite of what I like in a FPS. Polar Opposite!! Any way, to each his own.

So you believe that dying in .1 of a second is balanced?

lawl @ u

clutch-monkey
02-18-2009, 05:44 AM
Oh now we're just getting too picky. Sure there is a rush for good weapons, but that only starts in the beginning of the match. If you're going to let the beginning rush ruin the game for you then go ahead. As for camping the weapon spawns. No. That won't happen.
nah it doesn't ruin it, just a...contributing factor?
i guess it just has a "my first FPS" matel type feel.
So you believe that dying in .1 of a second is balanced?

lawl @ u

you come off as a little..insecure, just saying

_V_
02-18-2009, 03:08 PM
you come off as a little..insecure, just saying

Hahaha! Maybe next time you can respond to my question instead of making a personal shot.

I don't know about you, but I can't distinguish another person's emotions through a computer.

In case you're wondering though I have a steady girlfriend of 14 months, and I feel I'm very social with my friends/new people. Maybe I was insecure back in 6th to 8th grade, but who wasn't.

Can we get back to the topic at hand now? :rolleyes:

BUTTFREAK
02-18-2009, 03:54 PM
HALO I think is better. Just overall everything is better and more polished.

clutch-monkey
02-18-2009, 08:04 PM
Hahaha! Maybe next time you can respond to my question instead of making a personal shot.

that's not what i'm saying :uhoh:
you seem to be defending halo a little too hard, if you know what i mean? like it can be a fun game, but you seem overly intent on making everyone think it's better than COD when it's all subjective anyway.

_V_
02-18-2009, 09:04 PM
that's not what i'm saying :uhoh:
you seem to be defending halo a little too hard, if you know what i mean? like it can be a fun game, but you seem overly intent on making everyone think it's better than COD when it's all subjective anyway.

Okay, so I've read some funny arguments in the past. but I actually want to participate this time.

For those of you who think CoD takes a greater amount of skill than Halo 3.

Convince me. Because it isn't true.

That's the point of the thread isn't it? Move along please if you have nothing better to add.

Nick is cool
02-18-2009, 10:04 PM
So you believe that dying in .1 of a second is balanced?

lawl @ u



Dying instantly because you suck and walk right into someones scope >>> sneaking up on 3 halo players, only to realize you have no chance to take out more than 1 because it takes a whole clip to kill someone, and even if you get a well placed grenade they will kill you easily.

_V_
02-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Dying instantly because you suck and walk right into someones scope >>> sneaking up on 3 halo players, only to realize you have no chance to take out more than 1 because it takes a whole clip to kill someone, and even if you get a well placed grenade they will kill you easily.

You're comparing two different things there, but I'll humor you anyway.

The only way you're going to stay out of someones scope is if you stay indoors. Basically it forces you to camp, that is unless you have a silencer. Any automatic weapon can kill you, it doesn't matter. You can flail your gun around like an idiot and still get a kill. I know. I've done it. Had sesitivity all the way up to 10, ran up to a guy, croutched. Then right as I went into my death spin I got the kill off him with some stay bullets.

As for your other example...I'll pick this apart one by one.

Sneaking up on 3 players in Halo and killing them isn't really that hard. As I've said before (you must not have been reading) it take only 4, count um, FOUR, shots from a BR in the head to kill someone. Hardly a whole clip, you just have to be good :). With a well placed granade, that goes down to ONE. So it's very doable.

That's only with the BR though. I advise not to do that with that kind of weapon. If you're going to snaek up on people use the SPartan Laser, Rockets or a Shotgun. Trying to accomplish that with an Assult Rifle would be...difficult, but that's just common sense.

All you CoD4 people just whine realism, realism, realism, all day long. You want realism? Well, you gave yourself an example. You sneak up on 3 guys with a shitty weapon, you're gonna die. Halo takes some brains :rollseyes Where as in CoD you can run in with any run of the mill weapon and take out a whole squad with their back turned. Where is the realism in that, sir?

DarcSystems
02-19-2009, 12:52 AM
Where as in CoD you can run in with any run of the mill weapon and take out a whole squad with their back turned. Where is the realism in that, sir?

The realism in that is that a .22 can kill someone just as efficiently as an M16. Are you implying HALO is more realistic than CoD?

:lmao:

In real life, if you're getting shot at from behind, chances are you wont have time to turn around if the guy is spraying everyone with a machine gun. 1 well placed round will end you. In halo, your overshield, and cloaking will no doubt help you, but last I checked, they don't have that crap in real life. Halo is a fantasy FPS. CoD is a [more] realistic setting and scenario. If the enemy flanks you, and kills all of you, then you need to come up with a better strategy.

Botak
02-19-2009, 01:44 AM
In real life, if you're getting shot at from behind, chances are you wont have time to turn around if the guy is spraying everyone with a machine gun. 1 well placed round will end you. In halo, your overshield, and cloaking will no doubt help you, but last I checked, they don't have that crap in real life. Halo is a fantasy FPS. CoD is a [more] realistic setting and scenario. If the enemy flanks you, and kills all of you, then you need to come up with a better strategy.

And that's Game, Hendrix!

Comparing "Which one takes more skill" is like a guy comparing his penis size with that of an orangutan - the two species may be vaguely related, but the activity involved is largely pointless.

But just in case you were wondering V, as someone intimately familiar with a variety of small arms, I can assure you that if you're on someone's flank, and they don't know you're there, a "standard" weapon (Such as an Assault Rifle) shooting plain old vanilla 5.56x45mm NATO ball ammo can indeed take out 2-3 people quite easily, and I'm afraid, quite effectively. MILES2/SAWE gear doesn't lie and I've seen what a tumbling 5.56 round does to a body's centre of mass.

HALO and CoD4 are different games - different in design and intent by the developers, different in target demographic (although there would be some fanbase overlap here, as mentioned CoD4 is going to appeal to wargasm factor, not sci-fi fans), different in mechanics, just different in so many different ways I could spend all fucking day squeezing the word different into this sentence and still be right.

Meow.

SmokedYaNerd
02-19-2009, 11:26 AM
In real life, if you're getting shot at from behind, chances are you wont have time to turn around if the guy is spraying everyone with a machine gun. 1 well placed round will end you. In halo, your overshield, and cloaking will no doubt help you, but last I checked, they don't have that crap in real life. Halo is a fantasy FPS. CoD is a [more] realistic setting and scenario.

Ya, I play CoD all the time its so much more realistic.

I use my rifle from close range shoot a dude in the chest twice first and die because he has a better gun for the situation. So realistic that when I'm fighting nazi zombies that I run from them, but ohh wait, i'm stuck there is a little rock in the way and I can't move. Oh I just shot a dude an killed him, he shot me right in the heart, but give me 5 seconds to feel better........ OK, I'm good. Oh look there is a guy, I killed him. I'm going to walk forward just a tad.. WTF? I'm dead? Oh, what happened?? I just killed that guy, but apparently he didn't die for good and teleported behind me after 5 seconds and got to kill me. Oh look where I spawned right in the middle of the map, I'm dead. Because if I had to choose one spot to be in a strategic battle, I would choose the middle where a huge gunfight is happening.

Halo is more realistic because it has reasons for they they can jump so high and take bullets. If you are supposed to be a "real person" like in CoD then you should die like one. I like both games, but dont go telling me one is more realistic than the other, because neither are realistic.

BUTTFREAK
02-19-2009, 11:46 AM
Halo 3 bitchez

Danner
02-19-2009, 02:03 PM
So you believe that dying in .1 of a second is balanced?

lawl @ u

What part of headshot dont you understand?? If you have the skill to get off a single shot to the head, its very realistic.

Keep playing your kiddy halo game. Where having to rely on finding good weapons instead of aiming/tactics.

zigamabob
02-19-2009, 02:10 PM
The realism in that is that a .22 can kill someone just as efficiently as an M16. Are you implying HALO is more realistic than CoD?

:lmao:

In real life, if you're getting shot at from behind, chances are you wont have time to turn around if the guy is spraying everyone with a machine gun. 1 well placed round will end you. In halo, your overshield, and cloaking will no doubt help you, but last I checked, they don't have that crap in real life. Halo is a fantasy FPS. CoD is a [more] realistic setting and scenario. If the enemy flanks you, and kills all of you, then you need to come up with a better strategy.

Please...please...don't call CoD realistic. Nothing about that game is realistic. You can say it's a good game and I will agree even though I can't stand it, I can see it's a good game. Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, those are realistic games. Once CoD added the perk system and all this other crap the game quickly flew away from realistic.

Sorry but if I shoot someone 3 or 4 times in the chest they are suppose to die. Not fall down and pull out their pistol, or fall down and throw a grenade after they die somehow. And regular mode it takes a ton of bullets to kill someone if they have that perk to take more shots before dieing. But wait you can switch to hardcore mode. Where I've shot people in the arm or leg once and watched them die because I had an extra damage perk on. Wow I was sure someone would just get hurt, not just instantly die from getting shot in the leg.

The most realism that game has is the player and gun models, along with the sound. Other than that there is nothing.

Danner
02-19-2009, 02:38 PM
COD4 is close enough to being realistic while maintaining its fun factor. technically bullets don't always kill you instantly (Other than critical areas)ie head/heart. You can die from got shot wounds mintues/hours/days later.

Sxarcisious
02-19-2009, 06:55 PM
Halo 3 is better and takes more skill. Sure its been said before, and that because its true. I have both these games, and I play halo alot more since, CoD4 is a little to stupid for my taste.

To people that say halo is about about getting the good weapons, i can challenge any of you to a game, you could get the rocket launcher or whatever you want, id just take an assault riflle and i could still kick your ass.
Why? because you suck, and have no skill. I wouldnt be able to crouch and spin in a circle and get 3 kills, I would actually have to try to win.
With that, I need some live time?

clutch-monkey
02-19-2009, 11:26 PM
Sorry but if I shoot someone 3 or 4 times in the chest they are suppose to die. Not fall down and pull out their pistol, or fall down and throw a grenade after they die somehow.
this
i mean wtf do they have a dead man switch or something
COD4 is close enough to being realistic while maintaining its fun factor.

no that's rainbow six:las vegas :p

ShoobieDoobie
02-20-2009, 12:51 AM
COD for sure!:blahblah:

Botak
02-20-2009, 01:06 AM
Please...please...don't call CoD realistic.

Gotta agree there too. Although I believe my point about trying to compare the two games being a pointless exercise is still very true, departing from the OP a little, I don't think we can really discuss realism here; neither of the games are very realistic... the game devs usually aim for a balance between challenge (Which is sometimes undertaken by injecting "realism" to a certain degree), and fun when making a FPS.

CoD4 is a great game. HALO also. Neither of them are particularly realistic. Which is fair enough - they're games after all. :)

1mOntana
02-20-2009, 01:30 AM
honeslty if the respawns were better in CoD it would be 100 times better than halo. its only 50x better atm

_V_
02-20-2009, 02:02 AM
In real life, if you're getting shot at from behind, chances are you wont have time to turn around if the guy is spraying everyone with a machine gun.

Well I dunno if you missed the "run of the mill" weapon part, but last time I checked a machine gun is pretty powerful :p I was talking about the secondary pistols (minus DE). Now in CoD4, you'd most likely win that fire
fight especially if their back is turned. The realism factor I was talking about was being stupid enough to do that in an actual battle. If you only have something as weak as a pistol you're not going to sneak up on more than...oh...2 guys at once unless you have a death wish. Halo actually factors this in =D We'll say the Assault Rifle if the Pistol of CoD4. They're not the same, I'm just comparing the two since the Assault Rifle is basically the weakest gun it Halo. You try to sneak up on 3 people with that piece of shit you're going to get mowed into the ground.

Common sense. You have a bad weapon, don't go looking for trouble.

HALO and CoD4 are different games - different in design and intent by the developers, different in target demographic (although there would be some fanbase overlap here, as mentioned CoD4 is going to appeal to wargasm factor, not sci-fi fans), different in mechanics, just different in so many different ways I could spend all fucking day squeezing the word different into this sentence and still be right.

Anyone with eyes can see those games are different, thanks for pointing out the obvious :rolleyes:

That's a good explanation though..., but only if we were talking about which game is more FUN to play. Everyone likes their own thing, each game is different, each game has their own fun factor. It's like comparing your...yeah. You get the point.

SKILL wise though. I don't agree with you at all. Basically what you're saying is that you can't compare the skill level needed because they're different? So by that you're saying you'd have a hard time comparing the difficulty of Pac Man to Ninja Gaiden. Seriously. :squint:


What part of headshot dont you understand?? If you have the skill to get off a single shot to the head, its very realistic.

Keep playing your kiddy halo game. Where having to rely on finding good weapons instead of aiming/tactics.

Oh man :lol: this is the best one yet.

Okay, okay. So. First off let me point out that I get that getting shot in the head kills you faster than getting shot in the foot for example. BUT. For CoD4 it's a whole other story. What if I said that getting sprayed in the foot and getting sprayed in the head were no different? That is, besides snipers, shotgun (not automatic), and the M16 (burst fire).

With the health pool you have in CoD4, you die fast to begin with. Now, getting shot in the head DOES in fact kill you faster, but it's so fast I don't even notice it.

Hey man! But you just admitted to it! Getting shot in the head kills you faster! What are you trying to prove?!

You're right junior! It does! What I'm trying to show is that there is no difference with the health pool you have.

Getting shot in the head kills you really fast.
And...getting shot in the foot kills you really fast.

With the small, small, small amount of time that you save from shooting in the head. Well. It's not going to win you any more firefights.

And finally if you don't think that Halo doesn't require any aiming/tactics you're in for a big surprise.

Danner
02-20-2009, 11:10 AM
All i heard was "blah blah blah I suck cock"

COD4 was the death of Halo plain and simple

_V_
02-20-2009, 12:17 PM
All i heard was "blah blah blah I suck cock"

COD4 was the death of Halo plain and simple

Haha probably because you can't put together a response :) if you want to live in your own little fantasy land though no one is stopping you. Let the big boys talk this out though and keep to yourself kiddie :lol:

Danner
02-20-2009, 05:50 PM
Your argument is bullshit! Halo is a thing of the past. Even beloved halo fans admit halo 3 was a piece of shit. Hell, I own halo 2 and have logged hours of my life on it.

Cod4 is a revolutionary game for FPS. It out does halo in every category lol. If you are to dense to see that, I cant even have a conversation with you. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Now before you try to think of a way to respond and feel like a bigger person, read this very open blog. Both sides of parties giving opinions on both games.

http://www.askmen.com/daily/blogs/entertainment/call-of-duty-4-vs-halo-3.html

Just for the record, I'm 25 years old I have a bachelors degree, and I make over 70k a year, so to call me a kiddie is kind of pointless.

_V_
02-20-2009, 08:07 PM
Your argument is bullshit! Halo is a thing of the past. Even beloved halo fans admit halo 3 was a piece of shit. Hell, I own halo 2 and have logged hours of my life on it.

COD 4 got boring. I used to think Halo sucked balls after COD, but then I stopped being such a stupid fanboy and realised Halo 3 was still great, it was just different. Halo 3 never gets boring. It requires constant team play and thought out conflicts.

COD 4 is kill that guy, kill that guy, kill that guy, die, respawn instantly, repeat. It does get boring, I promise you. Eventually you will see.

Well obviously I'm not going to read all 10 pages of those comments. I just thought that this one was ironic considering it completely shut down your post :)

Cod4 is a revolutionary game for FPS. It out does halo in every category lol.

Oh I completely agree with you on that one. Don't you think that the Theater for CoD4 is just amazing? Also, don't you just love the Forge for CoD4? Completely blows the Halo Forge out of the WATER!

/end sarcasm

Seriously though. Don't say EVERY category because we both know that's not true :bigwink:

Sorry for the mistaken identity though. I just figured that somebody in his mid-twenties making 70k a year could come up with a better response than "I suck cock."

You talk like a kid so I'm gonna treat you like one. :cool:

clutch-monkey
02-21-2009, 02:41 AM
Your argument is bullshit! Halo is a thing of the past. Even beloved halo fans admit halo 3 was a piece of shit. Hell, I own halo 2 and have logged hours of my life on it.

:uhoh:
that's news to me- i thought the general opinion was that halo 2 was the letdown of the series?

Cod4 is a revolutionary game for FPS.
how so?

Nick is cool
02-21-2009, 04:02 PM
Sneaking up on 3 players in Halo and killing them isn't really that hard. As I've said before (you must not have been reading) it take only 4, count um, FOUR, shots from a BR in the head to kill someone. Hardly a whole clip, you just have to be good :). With a well placed granade, that goes down to ONE. So it's very doable.

That's only with the BR though. I advise not to do that with that kind of weapon. If you're going to snaek up on people use the SPartan Laser, Rockets or a Shotgun. Trying to accomplish that with an Assult Rifle would be...difficult, but that's just common sense.

All you CoD4 people just whine realism, realism, realism, all day long. You want realism? Well, you gave yourself an example. You sneak up on 3 guys with a shitty weapon, you're gonna die. Halo takes some brains :rollseyes Where as in CoD you can run in with any run of the mill weapon and take out a whole squad with their back turned. Where is the realism in that, sir?


It takes 4 headshots to kill someone with a BR if they are facing you, and you hit them in the face every time. If they have their back turned it takes atleast 5, and for the average player a BR is useless with their back turned.

"If your gonna sneak up on someone do it with a spartan laser or rockets or a shotgun". You act like you can just choose what weapon you want. Its almost impossible to get rockets, with a laser they will see you before you charge it and kill you, with a shotty its hard to get close enough.


Not my fault you cant handle fast paced games like COD.. sure you can die and kill easier, which is why in a COD game most people are say 18-18, when in a halo game its around 10-8 or so. Less kills/deaths per game with maybe more time. They are just different games, and im probaly better than you at both unless your in MLG in halo and IMO cod takes more skill for an average player.

zigamabob
02-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Not my fault you cant handle fast paced games like COD.. sure you can die and kill easier, which is why in a COD game most people are say 18-18, when in a halo game its around 10-8 or so. Less kills/deaths per game with maybe more time. They are just different games, and im probaly better than you at both unless your in MLG in halo and IMO cod takes more skill for an average player.

What? No it doesn't. I can just camp and get a decent K/D ratio. Infact CoD encourages camping with things like the UAV jammer perk. But once again why are these games being compared to each other? They have nothing in common other than being FPS. I think it makes more sense comparing BF with Cod they are both modern combat arcadish FPS.

Botak
02-21-2009, 04:55 PM
Anyone with eyes can see those games are different, thanks for pointing out the obvious :rolleyes:
.....
That's a good explanation though..., but only if we were talking about which game is more FUN to play. Everyone likes their own thing, each game is different, each game has their own fun factor. It's like comparing your...yeah. You get the point.

SKILL wise though. I don't agree with you at all. Basically what you're saying is that you can't compare the skill level needed because they're different? So by that you're saying you'd have a hard time comparing the difficulty of Pac Man to Ninja Gaiden. Seriously. :squint:



1) Well, sorry there bud, but to be honest, you guys seemed like you were losing the fucking plot. I respect your point of view, but Jesus-Fuck-My-Eye-Christ, how far do you want to argue this thing?? :rolleyes:

2) I do get your point, and it's a good one. But you can also see how it reinforces what I'm saying... how far do you want to go with this? There are gonna be HALO fanboi's who back you 150% and CoD fanboi's who will oppose you the direct opposite. Who's right? Neither of you, because you're fucking arguing on the internet. Shut your browser down and go frag someone from Liverpool or something, PLEASE.

3) No. PacMan and Ninja Gaiden are about as similar as tits and cervix... they both belong on a chick, but that's about it. What I'm saying is.... Are you going to compare the skill level required to keep 4 hoola-hoops going on WiiFit to the skill level required to pleasing the hot blonde chick you just picked up at the Pub downtown earlier in the evening??? See Points 1 and 2 dude, seriously...

Like I said, I respect where you're coming from, but I'm not sure you're going about this argument the right way.... I could take a certain set of cognitive and motor skills and play a great game of Quake or UT, and take those same sets of attributes and apply them to say BF2 or Joint Operations and fail like a shitbrick.... true, yes?

Nick is cool
02-21-2009, 05:58 PM
What? No it doesn't. I can just camp and get a decent K/D ratio. Infact CoD encourages camping with things like the UAV jammer perk. But once again why are these games being compared to each other? They have nothing in common other than being FPS. I think it makes more sense comparing BF with Cod they are both modern combat arcadish FPS.



I said nothing about K/D ratio, i was saying that there are more deaths and kills in a call of duty game. Example - after 5 minutes of a halo game, you might have killed 3 people and died 5 times, but in cod you would have had something like 7 kills and 9 deaths. These arent like realistic stats just giving an example.

twiximpo
02-21-2009, 09:48 PM
But once again why are these games being compared to each other?

Ask the one who started this ridicilious thread

Danner
02-23-2009, 11:58 AM
:uhoh:
that's news to me- i thought the general opinion was that halo 2 was the letdown of the series?

how so?

.......leave the thread:banghead:

Boondox_Saint
02-23-2009, 09:53 PM
What? No it doesn't. I can just camp and get a decent K/D ratio. Infact CoD encourages camping with things like the UAV jammer perk. But once again why are these games being compared to each other? They have nothing in common other than being FPS. I think it makes more sense comparing BF with Cod they are both modern combat arcadish FPS.

I'm more a fan of halo3 but i did find a fallacy with this statement...while there is a UAV jammer to "encourage" camping there is also a kill cam that shows u everytime how u died....

girishisgr8
03-02-2009, 07:59 PM
Even after readin the above posts my mind didn fluctuate , although had never thought bout the cons, i still stick to halo

Iconate
03-05-2009, 10:42 AM
CoD vs Halo 3?
Do you mean CoD 1? Because CoD 1 will always be the greatest FPS of all time. If you mean CoD4...then I guess it boils down to preference