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MGselwonK
09-14-2004, 09:03 PM
im thinking of convincing my parents to get me some drums for christmas
im not asking what brand of drums to get because i have 2 friends with basic drums that never use them and i can probably buy them for cheap
im asking
1) What are the things that you put over drums to keep them quiet, theyre like little pads that soften the sound. What are those called, how much do they cost, and do you have any clue what im talking about
2) I like double bass in the music i listen to but my friends do not have that set up, should i buy this or just not bother at the moment
3) Are there like tabs for drums or am i just on my own
any serious attempt at help will be repped with a happy face
Wire17
09-14-2004, 09:28 PM
lets see
1) Well, i think they are just called pads. Dampeners, sound-offs, things like that. There are also plastic rings you put on ur heads to stop the drums from ringing. I dont have either of these, so i cant help ya with the cost. I would like to get the rings, but i actually completly emptied my bank account to get my set cause my parents would buy me one. to stop ringing i just tightened all my heads up very much. sure chances of the heads breaking are a lot higher now, but i dont play too harcore on my drum or anything so that dont matter.
2) double bass, ya dont really need one for a starting drum set. it ya wanna give up the extra money feel free too, but there is no shame in waiting till ur better to get the double bass.
3) Yes, there are tabs. they arent ass common as guitar tabs, and they are hella hard to read, but they are there. look online and you can find some sites that give a good lot for free, or buy a book. ive only got em offline and reading those things is dam near impossible, but maybe they are more clear in a book.
killerclown
09-14-2004, 11:09 PM
im thinking of convincing my parents to get me some drums for christmas
im not asking what brand of drums to get because i have 2 friends with basic drums that never use them and i can probably buy them for cheap
im asking
1) What are the things that you put over drums to keep them quiet, theyre like little pads that soften the sound. What are those called, how much do they cost, and do you have any clue what im talking about
2) I like double bass in the music i listen to but my friends do not have that set up, should i buy this or just not bother at the moment
3) Are there like tabs for drums or am i just on my own
any serious attempt at help will be repped with a happy face
1. You can just go to a local gutiar/drum shop and ask them for pads and describe them or something.
2. I think you should wait until you get a little better.
3. drum tabs (http://www.mxtabs.net/drumtabs.php)
Mount_Happy
09-15-2004, 04:13 PM
1. theyre called "Silencer/Practice pads", the guy working there should know what your talking about. Prices can vary in range but most Ive seen have gone around 100 bucks for a kit (depending on how many pieces your drum set is). You could also buy them seperately which is usually how its done because you need custom sizes to fit your drum heads. Depending on the size of the pad depends on the cost of it. You can also get practice pads for your hi-hat and cymbals incase you didnt know.
2. Yea even though you like double bass in your setup, most of the time bass drums alone can cost more than the entire drum set. Stick with one for now, youll need quite a bit of money if you want to get two.
3. Yea mxtabs.net has some drum tabs. Theyre not that hard to read, a lot easier than reading notes thats for sure.
JayShavesHisLeg
09-15-2004, 09:59 PM
1. "" ...7-24 (single to set)
2. I say dont bother yet. you gata get a feel for what YOU enjoy playing on the drums. then YOU'LL be the one making up your mind. but id say its cheap... learn to do shit with a single.. that way you'lll bloww people away
3. ""
Darkslide632
09-16-2004, 03:32 PM
1) They're called "Evans Sound Offs" you can buy them here ( http://www.bananas.com/productdetail.asp/pid_1361/productname_Sound-Off-Drum-Set-Silencer-Standard-Set) or you can just google "Evans Sound Offs".
2) Go ahead an buy a double bass pedal. Anyone who thinks a double pedals costs as much as a whole kit either has absolutely no clue, or has been looking at Axis pedals too often. I bought a double pedal to start off with (DW5000) and never looked back. I DID switch to Iron Cobras though, and I just won Tamas fastest feet contest by playing 508 strokes in 30 seconds (Though on my kit I can play 600+ in 30 seconds). You can find Iron Cobra double pedals on Ebay relatively cheap. See here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41452&item=3748776890&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW), here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41452&item=3748666805&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) and here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10175&item=3748605242&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW). No point in playing on a single drum if the music you want to play all involves double bass patterns. You need to enjoy playing to practice as often as it takes to get good. If you're stuck on a sigle pedal and not enjoying the music, you wont practice and it'll be pointless.
3) The above posts took care of that.
Mount_Happy
09-16-2004, 04:00 PM
Anyone who thinks a double pedals costs as much as a whole kit either has absolutely no clue, or has been looking at Axis pedals too often.
Go look at a fucking Iron Cobra dipshit. Im not saying it costs more than EVERY set out there but it does for a beginner's set and makes it hardly costworthy.
ZX-6RR
09-16-2004, 04:07 PM
Well, don't go asking your parents for Tama Starclassic Customs quite yet bro. And, while you're at it, keep the double kick idea in your head for now as it is very difficult to master, let alone even try to play them.
You should go for a set of Tama Rockstars, those are the best starters in my opinion... Tht's what I have to this day. And, you might want to go for cheap ass cymbals too. I've been playing for ten years and just this year bought my first set of Zildjian hi hats (Zildjian 13" Dyno Beat Z customs!)
So, keep it cheap and simple... You may not even like the drums after a month so just buy stuff that you know you can handle. Every drummer starts with the basic rock beat...
Hehehehe
:D
Mount_Happy
09-16-2004, 04:11 PM
Cheap Zildjian cymbals arent that good, they get worn out too quickly. Sabian cymbals can take more of a beating and still be cheap.
Sabian > Zildjian when talking cheap yet costworthy
and
Zildjian > All at high priced cymbals.
ZX-6RR
09-16-2004, 04:17 PM
Yeah, I paid $300 CDN for those Dyno Beat hats :(
Darkslide632
09-16-2004, 04:21 PM
Go look at a fucking Iron Cobra dipshit. Im not saying it costs more than EVERY set out there but it does for a beginner's set and makes it hardly costworthy.
Yeah, way to go smart guy, because I don't endorse Tama drums, nor do I play on Iron Cobras myself :rolleyes:. Did you read my post before you started bitching, or did you just start bitching? Maybe you should look at the links I posted, because they're all Iron Cobras selling for < $100 right now. Though I am sure they will sell for closer to $150, cept for the one with the missing felt beater (But I tell you what MGselwonK, if you buy that one, I'll send you a new beater). If you're spending less than $150 on a drumkit there's a problem somewhere.
Don't listen to anyone who says not to start on a double pedal. I heard that for months before I bought my first kit... and suprise, I just won a brand new Kit for having fast feet.
For low end cymbals, Sabian B8's definitely beat out Zildjian ZBT's in my opinion also.
For the best bang for your buck, watch Ebay and buy a used kit.... or just buy a used kit in general. Trust me, I've been through it myself.
Mount_Happy
09-16-2004, 04:57 PM
Yeah, way to go smart guy, because I don't endorse Tama drums, nor do I play on Iron Cobras myself :rolleyes:. Did you read my post before you started bitching, or did you just start bitching? Maybe you should look at the links I posted, because they're all Iron Cobras selling for < $100 right now. Though I am sure they will sell for closer to $150, cept for the one with the missing felt beater (But I tell you what MGselwonK, if you buy that one, I'll send you a new beater). If you're spending less than $150 on a drumkit there's a problem somewhere.
Im not bitching, I dont know where you live but where I am the pedal goes for around 350-400 bucks.
Darkslide632
09-16-2004, 09:27 PM
WTF? $350-400?
www.ebay.com
Use it.
Heh
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