View Full Version : Legalize It. Prostistute.. not weed.
soundnthefury
06-18-2003, 02:35 PM
A recent showing of one of those HBO sex-umentaries has me thinking about the ramifications of legalized prostitution. Personally, I'm leaning towads . While it would provide a certain element of safety and allow legal control of the world's oldest profession as well as provide a new source of taxable income as well as the ability to slow the spread of disease.
bismarksinker
06-18-2003, 03:49 PM
YES this is a great idea why not legalize what congressman do every saturday night (pick up prostitutes)
and i was wondering why not weed (legalization)
i mean i went to amsterdam and i was happy as a pig in shit and didnt think about killing anyone the whole time i was there
but now that i am back i hate everyone so why not
Delta
06-18-2003, 04:05 PM
Your talking about making something that lowers the morality and standards of our country legal? Why dont you just legalize all drugs, murder and theft, that would make those things safer too.
BigMattTheHobo
06-18-2003, 04:57 PM
i think it would turn the us into a huge las vegas, even tho many place are just about there already.
droogsteve
06-18-2003, 06:29 PM
This is an easy one. Of course it should be legal. It's not the governments job to legislate morality. Streetwalking should still be illegal because it's a public nuisance and can spread disease. However, brothels and escort services are a different story. In some counties in Nevada prostitution IS legal. All prostitutes are registered and given twice monthly health checks by the board of health. Condoms are mandatory. Customers refusing to wear them are ejected and banned. There are certain areas zoned for the brothels so there is no danger of children being exposed to it. There has never been a case of AIDS transmitted from a legal prostitute to a customer. The existing laws are ludicrous. A woman can grab fifty random guys off the street and screw them and that's OK. If I'm filming a porno movie or own a sex club I'm allowed to pay a man and a woman to have sex with each other and that's OK. But if a man calls an escort service and a woman agrees to have sex with him in the privacy of his own home for money, that's a crime? It makes no sense. The government has absolutely no business telling people who they can fuck. There are also people that have a difficult time connecting with the opposite sex for various reasons. Maybe they're handicapped. Maybe they're just fat, ugly and can't find a girlfriend. Should they be sentenced to a lifetime without sex? If they want to pay for sex, and a woman is willing to provide what they want for money, it's a contract between two consenting adults that benefits them both. Why should anyone be able to tell them they can't?
BigMattTheHobo
06-18-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by droogsteve
This is an easy one. Of course it should be legal. It's not the govenments job to legislate morality. Streetwalking should still be illegal because it's a public nuisance and can spread disease. However, brothels and escort services are a different story. In some counties in Nevada prostitution IS legal. All prostitutes are registered and given twice monthly health checks by the board of health. Condoms are mandatory. Customers refusing to wear them are ejected and banned. There are certain areas zoned for the brothels so there is no danger of children being exposed to it. There has never been a case of AIDS transmitted from a legal prostitute to a customer. The existing laws are ludicrous. A woman can grab fifty random guys off the street and screw them and that's OK. If I'm filming a porno movie or own a sex club I'm allowed to pay a man and a woman to have sex with each other and that's OK. But if a man calls an escort service and a woman agrees to have sex with him in the privacy of his own home for money, that's a crime? It makes no sense. The govenment has absolutely no business telling people who they can fuck. There are also people that have a difficult time connecting with the opposite sex for various reasons. Maybe they're handicapped. Maybe they're just fat, ugly and can't find a girlfriend. Should they be sentenced to a lifetime without sex? If they want to pay for sex, and a woman is willing to provide what they want for money, it's a contract between two consenting adults that benefits them both. Why should anyone be able to tell them they can't?
thats true, i just think all possible steps should be take to keep the surronding area free of what might come with prostitution, drugs, pimps etc
Kanism
06-18-2003, 08:35 PM
well said, steve...why don't these whores go out and become useful parts of society instead of taking the easy road? why are we so prone to forgoing actually pride and hard work for hand outs? look around you...this cess pool that surrounds us didn't happen overnight...it's the lax in ethics and morals that has been slowly decaying our culture that would even allow you to entertain that thought.
Amsterdam is loose...do you think people actually enjoy living there or if that nation has any credibility at all? do you want the greatness that is America become another Amsterdam...or do you want to help re-build what our fore-fathers fought so hard to create?
Delta
06-19-2003, 12:08 AM
Once again Kanisms logic is evident. Thank you for helping prove my point.
Kanism
06-19-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Delta
Once again Kanisms logic is evident. Thank you for helping prove my point. just telling it like it is, delta :) I hate how society is declining into a cess pool and people want to help expedite it's decay instead of trying to show true character.
Wait, they're trying to make it legal to have a job where you can enjoy yourself? When did THAT ever become the American dream?
But seriously, you are serious that prostitution should be legal? You go out with girls for months, and THEN maybe you have sex. Maybe you wait til marriage. And now you're saying hell with the relationship, go straight for the physical enjoyment?
"The pursuit of love seeks to please the other person at the expense of one self; the pursuit of sex seeks to please one self at the expense of the other person."
I'm not saying that premarital sex is morally wrong, but if that's all that you're looking for, that's degrading to the other person. As for the legal prostitution in Nevada, yes I've heard about that; hell, on MTV I think I watched an hour long show about prostitution, gave me a lot to think about. Even if the males do have to wear condoms, the condoms have a 15% failure rate anyway. What if the prostitute becomes pregnant? The guy now has a legal responsibility to that child. What if he decides that she should keep it, and she says no she wants to have an abortion? There are simply too many scenarios like this that could come up (I'm not going to list anymore you should be able to think of some).
Dumbass
06-19-2003, 01:34 AM
Ok whatever I'm getting too confused with my posts and I'll just say it. I'm Yoda, I just felt like posting under a different name. Sorry bout that, but I just got a little bored of being a Dumbass, and I was tempted to be a 900 year old green guy that kicks some major ass, so sorry for the inconvenience.
droogsteve
06-19-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Kanism
just telling it like it is, delta :) I hate how society is declining into a cess pool and people want to help expedite it's decay instead of trying to show true character. I agree. Society is declining into a cesspool. Twelve year old girls dress like strippers because Britney does it on MTV. It's easier for a kid to buy a tab of ecstasy than a wine cooler. Any kid with access to a computer can see porn so raunchy it would shock Ron Jeremy. These are the things we should be concerned about, not that some lonely forty year old man is visiting a discreet brothel in the middle of nowhere or calling a service to arrange an escort. Legalizing and regulating prostitution would eliminate streetwalking hookers who plague residential neighborhoods. I don't visit prostitutes myself and have no plans to. But why should I, or anyone else, be able to tell two consenting adults that they can't make an arrangement they both want. It's none of my concern. By the way Kane, didn't you once post that there's a tape floating around Dallas that shows you getting a blowjob from some porn star? Sounds like true character to me! :p :D
Bergs
06-19-2003, 10:49 AM
The existing laws are ludicrous. A woman can grab fifty random guys off the street and screw them and that's OK. If I'm filming a porno movie or own a sex club I'm allowed to pay a man and a woman to have sex with each other and that's OK. But if a man calls an escort service and a woman agrees to have sex with him in the privacy of his own home for money, that's a crime? It makes no sense.
I agree with droog here. The law makes absolutely no sense when it is applied to porno and prostitution. What the fuck is the difference? One is art????
This topic came up in Participation in Government, a debate class that everyone at my school must take. Interestingly enough, all the girls even conservative ones wanted the right to sell their bodies for sex. It was a small sample, but still interesting.
droogsteve
06-19-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Bergs
This topic came up in Participation in Government, a debate class that everyone at my school must take. Interestingly enough, all the girls even conservative ones wanted the right to sell their bodies for sex. It was a small sample, but still interesting. Hmm, that is interesting. Please tell me where I can find these girls so I can further discuss it with them. :p :D
Delta
06-19-2003, 02:12 PM
Legalizing and regulating prostitution would eliminate streetwalking hookers who plague residential neighborhoods. Which RESIDENTIAL areas would that be? Im all ready to pick up and move.
soundnthefury
06-19-2003, 04:10 PM
i dunno. in response to kanism's talk of america losing respect and becoming as loose as amsterdam. as far as countries go, money and weapons seem to equal respect. and in a country where pornography, strip clubs, gambling, alcohol and cigarettes are legal, can you really say that our moral standing is at risk? and it's not as if prostitution is going to immediately create some slippery slope in which since you can do it.. you must.. if you want true character, show it and don't indulge in such things. it would basically provide a little security for those already doing such things. i just don't see the point in trying to morally police such things when other vices exist legally within society.
Nocturnal
06-19-2003, 07:38 PM
I'm not sure how much respect we have in the world as it is. Most foreigners very much dislike our society. And besides, prostitution is legal in most European countries.
Prostitution being illegal is just a holdover from the days of the Puritans. Just another example of the government legislating morality.
Seedy as it may be prostitution plays an important role in a society. It gives men that have not much chance of getting it for free, (too busy, ugly, poor social skills etc.) an opportunity to have sexual release. Countries with legal prostitution have greatly reduced rates of rape and other sexual offences.
And besides, how can anyone justify cops taking time to bust some guy getting a hummer, when there is a murderer somewhere waiting to strike?
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