What do you think is the highest in HP, coolest,best handling, and all around bestcar

[DeftonesBoy]

what is the best car (in every category) ????
mine is either the lamborghini diablo 6.0
or
the mustang 301 winzer !!!!!! yeah

[TopGunnSrx]

I think the best car for the dollar is the 2003 chevy corvette zo6

[Dumbass]

Ferrari F50. I don't care how much it is, it's the best overall.

[Ragnarok]

There's so many it really comes to how much $ you are talking about. The Enzo is without a doubt the fastest, sleekest, best handling car but maybe you dont want to spend 650,000$. There's the S7 and older ferrari's and then Lamborghini's for your pleasure. But for the least money, while still sporting excellant performance stats, I'd go for a Jag or a Porsche. Or a Mercedes, those are nice, I'd take one of them.

[Dumbass]

Ok, here's something to think about. Bugatti recently came out with a car called the EB and some numbers behind it. These are the stats on the car that I think I remember seeing.
987 hp*
maximum speed of 252 miles an hour*, a good 12 mph faster than the McLaren
a 0-186 time of 14 seconds*, 6 seconds faster than the McLaren F1's 0-180 time
a W16 engine (2 V8's hooked up to the same crankshaft)*
0-60 time of 2.6 seconds (and the tires were still spinning until it got to about 100mph)
7 speed manual*
3557 lbs (not exact, but over the legal street boundaries in both U.K. and U.S.)
amazing handling and braking, supposedly the best in any car ever made
estimated price tag of, get this, 1.2 million George Washington's*
*figures are the ones I am absolutely positive about

[GOD]

Right now I think those Top Fuel dragsters in the NHRA take it for HP and Speed. 4,000 horses, 315mph plus in under 5 seconds in a quarter mile. That's faster than I can think...

[Dumbass]

But they don't have good handling and braking.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Dumbass
Ok, here's something to think about. Bugatti recently came out with a car called the EB and some numbers behind it. These are the stats on the car that I think I remember seeing.
987 hp*
maximum speed of 252 miles an hour*, a good 12 mph faster than the McLaren
a 0-186 time of 14 seconds*, 6 seconds faster than the McLaren F1's 0-180 time
a W16 engine (2 V8's hooked up to the same crankshaft)*
0-60 time of 2.6 seconds (and the tires were still spinning until it got to about 100mph)
7 speed manual*
3557 lbs (not exact, but over the legal street boundaries in both U.K. and U.S.)
amazing handling and braking, supposedly the best in any car ever made
estimated price tag of, get this, 1.2 million George Washington's*
*figures are the ones I am absolutely positive about

The Bugatti EB16-4 Veyron is a beast. True it is a W16 engine but it actually presents a "acceptable" 1001 bhp. Also, less then one hundred of these will be built. But if all of them sell, Bugatti makes about 100 million $ minus expenses. There's something to think about.

Other then that you know a lot more about it then I, that car seems to be all engine. I don’t think I'd want one of those. What if you crashed? The frame's gotta be some tin foil considering its small weight and enormous engine.


http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=veyron

[Dumbass]

Yeah that car is like a UFO on wheels. The stats on it are insane.

[b3dlaM]

Lambo Mercialago owns all of your cars.

Yes, veyron is nice but no1 can afford it.
And if you can afford it. I doubt you would blow that much money on that kind of car.


For the main-stream consumer, the Subaru Impreza WRX STi is the best bang for the buck regarding:

Speed
Exterior Styling
Interior Styling
Performance (Braking, Handling etc..)
And over all image of having a known high performance car that has won many rally championships.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by b3dlaM
Lambo Mercialago owns all of your cars.

Yes, veyron is nice but no1 can afford it.
And if you can afford it. I doubt you would blow that much money on that kind of car.

It's Murcielago and no, it doesn't own all of our cars. Read up on your Lamborghini and you'll see, while it is one hell of a nice car, it doesn't own the Saleen or the Enzo, let alone the Veyron.

[b3dlaM]

Originally posted by Ragnarok
It's Murcielago and no, it doesn't own all of our cars. Read up on your Lamborghini and you'll see, while it is one hell of a nice car, it doesn't own the Saleen or the Enzo, let alone the Veyron.

Perhaps, i haven't read up on thses cars lately.

I don't know anything about the s7, but i know the enzo is only .1 seconds faster than the mercielago last time i checked.

If i'm wrong im sorry.

All these cars are really nice and true exotics. They are so good that if people are to buy one, im pretty sure its out of personal preferance.

oh, and about the veyron. It's price is like 3 times as much as the mercielago so i would put it in the same category as it.

[Ragnarok]

No worries, the Murcielago is an awesome car, and it's a fraction of the Enzo's price. Thats what makes it so awesome. At 276 k, it's a lot less then a third of the Veyron price too :cool: .


But for performance, compared to the 2003 911 Porsche Turbo, the Murcielago is slightly slower in accellaration but has superior stopping power. The lambo is a few hundred pounds heavier but the Porsche has 100 fewer bhp. So you see, it compares but some cars have stronger qualities then others.

[TheMoonMonst3r]

Originally posted by Dumbass
Ok, here's something to think about. Bugatti recently came out with a car called the EB and some numbers behind it. These are the stats on the car that I think I remember seeing.
987 hp*
maximum speed of 252 miles an hour*, a good 12 mph faster than the McLaren
a 0-186 time of 14 seconds*, 6 seconds faster than the McLaren F1's 0-180 time
a W16 engine (2 V8's hooked up to the same crankshaft)*
0-60 time of 2.6 seconds (and the tires were still spinning until it got to about 100mph)
7 speed manual*
3557 lbs (not exact, but over the legal street boundaries in both U.K. and U.S.)
amazing handling and braking, supposedly the best in any car ever made
estimated price tag of, get this, 1.2 million George Washington's*
*figures are the ones I am absolutely positive about

7 speed manual? That car could go 140mph in first gear, what the fuck are the other gears for?

[bismarksinker]

oh man too many to think about

i can never choose just one

but a nice cheap one (relativley speaking) is the new porsche
GT-3 its nice and doesnt look like any porche ive ever seen
and it is nicely priced (agian all relative) at 115,000$$

[Webby10566]

You should check out the new Hennessy Viper, Venom 800. It has 833 Hp and 903 lb-ft of torque. It pulls a 2.4 0-60 and a 9.90 quater mile. Within a mile it can accelerate past 200 mph. It also has amazing handling. And all of that costs only 176,000, much cheaper that the other extreme exotics. All of this dream inspired madness comes in a production car that is street legal anywhere and also has the stock Viper warranty. It is also designed to be a daily driver to. That pretty well competes with anything out there.

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by b3dlaM
Lambo Mercialago owns all of your cars.



For the main-stream consumer, the Subaru Impreza WRX STi is the best bang for the buck regarding:

Speed
Exterior Styling
Interior Styling
Performance (Braking, Handling etc..)
And over all image of having a known high performance car that has won many rally championships.

the STI is a pretty damn good value,

although dollar per performance nothing beats a ZO6 vette. nothing, it will out handle almost anything in the road, and outrun almost anything as well. Anything that can beat it has a price tag of at least twice as much, the savings could be placed into modifications for the Z06, making it truly unbeatable.

[Dumbass]

Originally posted by TheMoonMonst3r
7 speed manual? That car could go 140mph in first gear, what the fuck are the other gears for?
Yea that car is insane. You could leave it in first gear, get on the highway, maybe put it into 2nd if you want. There's apparently a double clutch setup going on there, I forget exactly what they said about it; I know they mentioned the Audi TT having something similar.

[driverfound]

ok, you want fast? how about the koenigsegg cc v - 8? Christian von Koenisegg puts them together in his garage, and they do kill a maclearen. it has a 4.6 litre ford 32 valve v - 8. it also has a paxton novi supercharger, good for 19 pounds of intercooled boost. 655 horsepower. it weighs only 2800 pounds. for those of you who can't figure it out, thats 4.3 pounds per horsepower. and the body's drag coefficient is 0.30, but somehow, when it is going 200 mph, it manages 110 pounds of downforce in the front, and 154 in the rear. now that is fast.

[DeftonesBoy]

i think that the bugatti might take the gold for hp and speed but the all around coolest car it just doesnt have, it is totally ugly (at least the nose is) but the rest it might just be

[bsmith01]

Maclarian F1

[DeftonesBoy]

The Mclaren F1?

[SmitZ]

Bugatti Veyron, at the moment, the god of cars in my mind.

4 Turbos working at 24lbs each, w16 engine with the same displacement as a viper, yet 2x the base hp....... damn. A steptronic transmission that shifts when you tell it to......... in less then .2 seconds. A cam that automatically changes depending on how much performance you want, and if you are going for max performance, it changes depending on your RPM for best juice..... 64 valve, EFI, and a price tag that is just as insane as the performance specs. Now, does it come with spinners? (j/k)

[Spank666]

Bugatti Veyron, at the moment, the god of cars in my mind.

4 Turbos working at 24lbs each, w16 engine with the same displacement as a viper, yet 2x the base hp....... damn. A steptronic transmission that shifts when you tell it to......... in less then .2 seconds. A cam that automatically changes depending on how much performance you want, and if you are going for max performance, it changes depending on your RPM for best juice..... 64 valve, EFI, and a price tag that is just as insane as the performance specs. Now, does it come with spinners? (j/k)


You brought up a 2 year old thread to point out a joke like the Veyron? Good god, you must know nothing about cars.

[CdocZ]

Ok, I don't care if there hasn't been a useful post here in a long time, I am bored, I am posting.

Ariel Atom S. 600 horsepower per ton, looks rather cool in my opinion, fast as HELL (2.9 seconds to 60 good enough for you?), and handles like a dream. Plus, with the lack of real body work, it's quite easy to see EXACTLY where you want to hit the corner, allowing amazing track times with significant ease to those who can drive even moderately well. All this for 30,000 British Pounds, or $60,000 American? As compared to the $700,000 Enzo, and $450,000 Carrera GT? Niiiiice.

[Spank666]

Isnt the Ariel Atom the one with the supercharged Civic Type-R engine? If so, that car/go cart kicks some serious ass. They are ridiculously fast in every way, and cheaper than a new C6 Z06. If I had $60K, I would have one buy now.

[BummedOutMonkey]

My dollar per performance is good with my 300zxTT. I paid 14k and put about 4k of mods on. It's about 450hp and will keep up with a Z06 (similar modded ones run 11's - see z32power.com). It's MUCH more rare than a Z06 in Michigan so people are always coming up to check it out and find out what it is. I like the STI, but my car is cheaper, better looking and faster. It also handles and brakes extremely well with a few upgrades.

I might get a Vette if they weren's so common in MI (and had an interior as nice as my car). There's probably 10 vettes in my sub.


the STI is a pretty damn good value,

although dollar per performance nothing beats a ZO6 vette. nothing, it will out handle almost anything in the road, and outrun almost anything as well. Anything that can beat it has a price tag of at least twice as much, the savings could be placed into modifications for the Z06, making it truly unbeatable.

[1-pippin]

well for all around coolness and performing in everything id say mabye the new rs4 cause its really damn fast and it could probably kick an sti's ass on dirt, snow and stuff.
but for performance on a road or track the mercedes clk gtr would probably kick everyones ass, i think it it did 0-100 a little faster than the porsche gt1 and the gt1 is faster than the mclarren f1, plus theres another version of the clk gtr that has 100 more hp.
but for a car thats actually affordable id say the mercedes 190e evolution, there really really fast on a track and it looks sooooo damn badass.

[CdocZ]

Isnt the Ariel Atom the one with the supercharged Civic Type-R engine? If so, that car/go cart kicks some serious ass. They are ridiculously fast in every way, and cheaper than a new C6 Z06. If I had $60K, I would have one buy now.

Thats the one. Such a fun car......Jeremy Clarkson, when testing it said it was more thrilling then piloting an F15, jumping out of a hercules (big transport plane), or any motorcycle. Talk about a fun car.

By the way, diss the new C6 Z06, and I will ask you to race one. Why? Ok, it came within FOUR SECONDS of the Pagani Zonda's track time on the Nurburgring. I'd like to see your car pull that off. It's not all about the 1/4 mile, or about the horsepower. It's about how the lateral G, 1/4 mile, 0-60, braking times, overall handling capability, aerodynamics, and shifting ratios and time-to-shift is, weight, and center of gravity, and how all of these work together to get the fastest track time. The Ariel Atom S has only 300, horsepower, yet all of it's factors work sooo well together, it can keep up with an Enzo around the track - 300 horsepower vs. 600 horsepower. Then there is the Hennessey Venom. Viper's weigh a ton, yet these things are competitors for world records in acceleration. The new C6 Z06's parts work together THAT well, to the point where it comes within 5 seconds of a car known as one of Italy's greatest performing supercars ever.

[Bushmaster M16]

Ford F-350 extended cab with a ACU gun rack

[Spank666]

By the way, diss the new C6 Z06, and I will ask you to race one.


Shit, I am in no position to put down a new Z06. I was merely using the Z06 as a reference point to how cheap the Atom is in comparison to its capability.

[wsuwarrior]

Ford GT....

[ultrazls1]

well i honestly think its the Zo6 everytime i here the name or see a new corvette i just get shivers i fricken love everything about them if i could sell my z28 and have enough money for one i would but yeah i dont lol

[CdocZ]

Shit, I am in no position to put down a new Z06. I was merely using the Z06 as a reference point to how cheap the Atom is in comparison to its capability.

Woops, should've said who that part was directed at. I meant bummedoutmonkey or whatever his name is, cause he sounded like he thought his car could easily keep up if not outdo the Z06, talking about his 450 horsepower and good 1/4 mile times......

[ironjohn1989]

well for all around coolness and performing in everything id say mabye the new rs4 cause its really damn fast and it could probably kick an sti's ass on dirt, snow and stuff.
but for performance on a road or track the mercedes clk gtr would probably kick everyones ass, i think it it did 0-100 a little faster than the porsche gt1 and the gt1 is faster than the mclarren f1, plus theres another version of the clk gtr that has 100 more hp.
but for a car thats actually affordable id say the mercedes 190e evolution, there really really fast on a track and it looks sooooo damn badass.

wth are you talking about the rs4 is way out of subaru's league and it costs like 50k more :insane: !!! How old are u?

[powermitch]

id say the porsche carrera gt
doesnt cost as much as the bugatti, or a mclaren. an has excellent performance.

[car_boy_16]

the CLK-GTR Super Sport owns you all.....But that's like over a 1 million dollars. Street legal though!

[CdocZ]

id say the porsche carrera gt
doesnt cost as much as the bugatti, or a mclaren. an has excellent performance.

Yet the Ariel Atom S, and Noble M12 GTO 3R cost about 15-20% of the Carrera GT's pricetag, and can keep up on the track....It's the small names that are the killers today. For example, the general public still have not heard of the Pagani Zonda, yet it continues to rape Ferrari in performance, and is known by most who have seen them as one of the most beautiful cars made to date. And what about the famous Donkervoort? Small track car, looks interesting, very recently (and I think it still does) held the record for best track time ever on the Nurburgring. The only big name that holds it's place in the real world of track racing is the Carrera GT, but it is not worth the money with such things as the Atom and Donkervoort.

As for the CLK GTR (I forget who mentioned it before), the CLK GTR was a race car, and was 100% street illegal, for use only on the track, and could only be sold to those with a racing license. The version with "100 more horsepower", is the actual Le Mans version. I'd like to see anyone but the richest snobbiest money-whores get their hands on a Mercedes Le Mans racer. (Ah, 1-pippin.)

As for the Ford GT, its great for the money, but only against other big names, like the Enzo, and SLR. Yet, for the $150,000 it costs to buy, you can buy an Ariel Atom, Lingenfelter C6 427TT, Noble M12 GTO or an M400, or many other things that can easily take it down, and even with the most expensive of those 4 cars, the Lingenfelter, you would still have $50,000 extra for insurance, gas, or to just keep for anything else.

Which reminds me, I am changing my opinion. Forgot about the Lingenfelter's. Lingenfelter C6 427TT: 0-60 world record holders, 1/4 mile to compare with the Hennessey Venom's, amazing sound, looks great especially in black, handles like a Lotus, costs $100,000 yet is fast enough to beat most $500,000+ supercars, yet STILL retains the reliability of a stock Corvette, and the fuel mileage and ease-to-drive of a normal Corvette, making it one of the greatest "commuter toys" ever, as well as an amazingly powerful, fast, and dominating track car. Plus, the new C6 has a nice interior to add! ;)

EDIT: Carboy, yes it's fast, but $1,000,000 for something that has the relability of.....a race car, the fuel mileage of a bad SUV, and can be beaten by things that cost 10% of it's cost?

[BummedOutMonkey]

Woops, should've said who that part was directed at. I meant bummedoutmonkey or whatever his name is, cause he sounded like he thought his car could easily keep up if not outdo the Z06, talking about his 450 horsepower and good 1/4 mile times......

I will concede that a C6 Z06 will spank my 300zx (with the current turbos I have). I was referring to the C5 Z06. Price per performance was my main point. I will drive the C6 Z06 sometime to check it out, but again they will be all over soon enough here in MI (seems like 1/2 of C5's are Z06's). I really like having a rare car so I can't see myself getting one.

[1-pippin]

wth are you talking about the rs4 is way out of subaru's league and it costs like 50k more :insane: !!! How old are u?

i was saying that the rs4 is probably gonna be better on dirt and stuff than the sti i wasnt really comparing them and on a track the rs4 is definatly gonna be really good.

[GNARF]

Pagani Zonda...or a Koeggnisegg..probably the best over-all car...without the factors such as off-roading and gas preserving...lol..

[car_boy_16]

i was saying that the rs4 is probably gonna be better on dirt and stuff than the sti i wasnt really comparing them and on a track the rs4 is definatly gonna be really good.
the rs4 isn't based on a rally car like the STi is....what makes you think the rs4 is better on dirt?
The rs4 is used in road racing, on pavement. They are totally different racers - dont compare the two.

[some_ugly_guy]

Suzuki GSXR1000 or Yamaha R1: fast, great handling, cheap!


.....too bad this is about cars though

[1-pippin]

the rs4 isn't based on a rally car like the STi is....what makes you think the rs4 is better on dirt?
The rs4 is used in road racing, on pavement. They are totally different racers - dont compare the two.

well the rs4 may not be designed to be a rally car but the quatto system is, and since the rs4 will be faster it will probably be as fast or faster than the sti.

[car_boy_16]

Each quattro system is unique to each application. This quattro system on the rs4 is a whole new generation of the system. It's an evolution of the original system and it's been tweaked for optimal operation on pavement. Yes Quattro was designed for rally orginally with the GT coupe which was amazing in its time. But this rs4 is a whole new beast and frankly it's not meant to be an off-road car. That's what i'm saying - the sti is a rally-based car, the rs4 is a road racer....

[1-pippin]

oh i didnt know they changed it for the rs4

[Kumacho]

We sure do get a lot of 1 post people that dig up very old posts... How did he even find this thread! It just hit it's 2 year anniversary!

[Pro SS 67CaMaro]

well to me this is an easy one... but it's a multi-part

highest bhp- it will be my car ones i get the 20G precision turbo's

i baught them before and had results of 1143bhp and i honestly was scared of the power with the boost up... but i'm re-buying them and setting the psi very low for street use

coolest- thats an opinion... i think either my zx, an HPA golf, mclaren f1, 68 streetfighter camaro in black, panoz esperante gt1 Lemans, 69 manta ray, mercedes clk-gtr SS, ferrari F-40, ferrari 355 track edition, lamborghini countach... and others

best handling- i would have to say clk-gtr SS, nissan R390GT1, or anything from Noble

all around best car- depends on price, but if price is no option i would say the clk-gtr SS there's only 25 of these and they are amazing but i really do love the R390GT1 too

[joe limon]

ssc... owns all, almost 1200 hp, and an estimated top speed of 260 mph, but if you want best bang for your buck, by far the ultima gtr, can pull 1.3 g's on a skid pad (enzo is just above one), and 0-60 in 2.6 secs

[DarcSystems]

I love it when people bring up old threads. At first you don't notice, and you just see all these unusual user names, and you're like "hey, new people, sweet" but then you realize these people were from a long time ago, and most of them are gay now.

[Skiptomylue]

We sure do get a lot of 1 post people that dig up very old posts... How did he even find this thread! It just hit it's 2 year anniversary!

I love it when people bring up old threads. At first you don't notice, and you just see all these unusual user names, and you're like "hey, new people, sweet" but then you realize these people were from a long time ago, and most of them are gay now.

lol this thread was not ment to live.. its only on what... page 4? and 2 of the 6 posts are talking about it being revived.. every 2 years it seems to get revived... it will die out.. then in 2009 will be brought back
also, id have to pic the TVR tuscan 6..
has tons of power, Very rare, great handler, Super light, and one of the sexiest cars ive seen..

[anjroo11688]

Even though this thread is ancient, I still think it is a valid topic to discuss.

I think the E39 BMW M5 would be the best car that would fit into all of these categories. It's got 400HP, four doors, six speed transmission, 0-60 in 4.6-4.8 second AND you can still pick up the kids from soccer practice and go shopping.

[EeekiE]

lol this thread was not ment to live.. its only on what... page 4? and 2 of the 6 posts are talking about it being revived.. every 2 years it seems to get revived... it will die out.. then in 2009 will be brought back


Kind of like Jeepers Creepers. It feasts on the patience of uber leet forum members, then retreats for another 2 years.

[DeftonesBoy]

You guys, this was a joke thread. I can't believe it's still around...

[car_boy_16]

We werent replying for your benefit in any form, you provided the basis of the subject and we rolled with it, not dependent on whether or not it was a joke or a serious inquiry.

[DeftonesBoy]

We werent replying for your benefit in any form, you provided the basis of the subject and we rolled with it, not dependent on whether or not it was a joke or a serious inquiry.

I don't think you see the hilarity. I put this thread here because you guys can debate about any topic thrown around, and your reply "you provided the basis of the subject and we rolled with it" just makes it all the more true.

[car_boy_16]

What can I say, it's true!