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Drtyrock
12-15-2004, 03:43 AM
not really
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4BD8038-8970-4542-9E9C-E4FD18C11051.htm
yay go war on terror :rolleyes:

YouEnjoyMyself
12-15-2004, 03:50 AM
That's cool, while I read we just gave Irael another 30 million dollars.

Kazimierz
12-15-2004, 03:57 AM
Not supporting Israel, means you're not supporting America, which means you're a terrorist!

Congratulations, you read al-Jazeera and post about Israel, you are now on the government black list. But it's for your own safety :D

vchampionl70
12-15-2004, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't take anything Al-Jazeera reported seriously, even if they were paying me to sponsor them. The bigger "shocker" is that someone is ignorant enough to use them as a source.

Bayern Munich
12-22-2004, 04:26 PM
I wouldn't Al-Jazeera either. They are meanies.

shade
12-22-2004, 05:09 PM
Interesting that only the boy's father was interviewed.

Saladin06
12-22-2004, 05:27 PM
That isnt surprising at all and neither is the hatred of a medi which isnt controlled by the government... Yeah since Al-Jazzerah doesnt show your veiw point it means its no valid right? So you can keep blowing uip their stations by "accident."

poopchow
12-22-2004, 05:32 PM
Shade they interview some "soldiers"...

"According to soldiers interviewed by Yediot Ahronoth, there were no operational purposes for the shooting and no justification, since the boy and his family posed no threat to the soldiers."

I dont know the situation enough over there but when there is a difinitive "no" i find it suspect. Rarely things are a black and white situation and i dont think this is either.

7 shots to the head? The boy must have been dead and the soldiers kept shooting....doesnt make sense.

"In an interview with Aljazeera.net, Eid accused the Israeli army of "inspiring soldiers to commit these abominable acts of sheer murder".

"The army top brass has given every indication that soldiers who commit murder will be immune from serious prosecution, and even if they are prosecuted, it won't be a big deal."

I think that is just ridiculous for people to take seriously. Thats why al-jazeera isnt a real source.

Though any kid being killed is always a tragedy.

shade
12-22-2004, 05:44 PM
Yeah since Al-Jazzerah doesnt show your veiw point it means its no valid right? So you can keep blowing uip their stations by "accident." I dont care about al jazeera in general. However I do believe all Al Jazeera reporters should be shot on site in Iraq because they are far, far too lucky when it comes to covering roadside bomb stories and kidnappings. We should also infiltrate them with spies.

JooK
12-22-2004, 11:48 PM
Hah, I laugh at your recognition of Al-Jazeera as a trustworthy news-source.
Their goal from day one was to fumble any thred of dignity in military men,
and they exaggurate the events in EVERY article.


I met many Israeli soldiers, some of them are very fierce, but they are not
there to shoot arabs for fun. Many of them told me of how much the world
corrupts the actual events. Their friends shooting at armed suspects who
end up being "innocent bystanding children".

Viet Era Marine
12-23-2004, 12:25 AM
I dont care about al jazeera in general. However I do believe all Al Jazeera reporters should be shot on site in Iraq because they are far, far too lucky when it comes to covering roadside bomb stories and kidnappings. We should also infiltrate them with spies.

Luck has nothing to do with it! Of course maybe we could just follow them around and when they stop, we start checking out the area (with their reporter on point!) No need for spies, just a nice tiny tracer on their vehicles.

Regards,
VEM

Viet Era Marine
12-23-2004, 12:50 AM
Hah, I laugh at your recognition of Al-Jazeera as a trustworthy news-source.
Their goal from day one was to fumble any thred of dignity in military men,
and they exaggurate the events in EVERY article.


I met many Israeli soldiers, some of them are very fierce, but they are not
there to shoot arabs for fun. Many of them told me of how much the world
corrupts the actual events. Their friends shooting at armed suspects who
end up being "innocent bystanding children".

Jook:

Good post! You really need to talk to Saladin, he thinks Al-Shiteera is pretty good reliable source of news.

BTW: It is very strange how fast those young Jihadist turn in to "innocent bystanding children"!! Yea, sure they are.

The saddest part is that if their Mothers had any real say in the matter, you would see this Israel / Palistine conflict brought to a screeching halt.

"Mohamad, you take that suicide belt off this minute young man, or I'll beat your ass!"

But, womens' opinion in that culture is one step above a goats'.

Good to have you posting here, stick around for as long as you like!!

Regards,
VEM

ferny25
12-23-2004, 12:51 AM
anything A-J says you know it has to be bullshit. their probable part of OBL clan. that is why they show the OBL's videos proudly.

Kazimierz
12-23-2004, 06:14 AM
I wouldn't take anything Al-Jazeera reported seriously, even if they were paying me to sponsor them. The bigger "shocker" is that someone is ignorant enough to use them as a source.

Why does taking al-jazeera reports seriously make you ignorant? are there any trustworthy news sources in the Arab world? No, because they are Arabs, and Arabs are terrorists!

So everyone shot by Israeli's was a Jihadist? Does that make everyone killed in Iraq a terrorist? Why is it so hard to believe that there are horrible things going on, and innocents being killed? Look at the execution of the insurgent by the Marines. There are horrible people in every army everywhere.

What about when the Israeli army ran over an American girl protester with a tractor? Then reversed BACK over her dead body? Was she a Jihadist too? Or is it propoganda to talk about the people you support doing horrible things? The Arab/Israeli conflict is ripe with emotion and hatred, and of course that is going to spill out and cause terrible deeds.

JooK
12-23-2004, 03:59 PM
Why does taking al-jazeera reports seriously make you ignorant? are there any trustworthy news sources in the Arab world? No, because they are Arabs, and Arabs are terrorists!

So everyone shot by Israeli's was a Jihadist? Does that make everyone killed in Iraq a terrorist? Why is it so hard to believe that there are horrible things going on, and innocents being killed? Look at the execution of the insurgent by the Marines. There are horrible people in every army everywhere.

What about when the Israeli army ran over an American girl protester with a tractor? Then reversed BACK over her dead body? Was she a Jihadist too? Or is it propoganda to talk about the people you support doing horrible things? The Arab/Israeli conflict is ripe with emotion and hatred, and of course that is going to spill out and cause terrible deeds.


This is an ignorant man's comment.
What you read in your newsources is only there because someone else told the story.
Most likely an arab newssource transferred the story.

Do you remember a while ago, there was a big conflict about the shooting
of a young Palestinean kid that was a bystander in combat. The news said
that Israeli soldiers were shooting at attackers, and just because there were
kids near by, they shot them too out of spite.

However, a year or so later, a man from PBS decided to make a documentary
about the story. He found out that the way in which the Israeli soldiers were
positioned, it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to shoot the kid, and infact, the arabs
themselves shot the kids.

What does this tell you? The muslim-extremist is willing to "sacrafice" his own
blood and people to inflict negative commentry about the "evil" occupation.
Terrorists cannot win by force, only by controlling the mentality that the U.S.
and Israel are devious and torture their people.

Israeli soldiers have more integrity and respect than any other person in Israel.
I know because Iv'e met so many of them.

Keep in mind that I am not saying that Israel is cleansed of any corruption
in this war, I know some shady things have happenned, but this is because
a certain soldier had done something wrong. Example given from a soldier I met:

Once after an Israeli jeep was raided and 3 soldiers were tortured and eventually
killed by muslim extremists, one of the assassinated soldiers' friends in the base
heard the news.
The next morning, without any orders issued to do so, he picked up his M16,
went into the nearest Muslim village, and sprayed whatever he had into
any shred of moving objects.

There is no way to justify it, but it doesn't happen because Israel wanted it
to, the guy was simply out of it, he couldn't control his emotions.

In any case, Al-Jazeera is NOT a reliable newsource since they have been trying
to skew the truth to the point where it isn't the same story, and the story
will always lean towards the "Israel and America are Evil" topic.

Kazimierz
12-23-2004, 04:49 PM
All you said

You're gonna start listing atrocities done by Arabs to support Israel? You are obviously a supporter of Israel, you know Israeli soldiers, and that in and of itself makes you an unreliable source of unbiased opinions.

vchampionl70
12-23-2004, 06:29 PM
This is an ignorant man's comment.

That is because you are referring to an ignorant man. :D

I'm glad there are more people in the forum who realize this.

Kazimierz
12-24-2004, 08:34 AM
That is because you are referring to an ignorant man.

Disagreeing with someone doesn't make one ignorant. Fearing news and information, for any reason, is ignorant. It's better to take it seriously and try to disprove it, then automatically shun it regardless of what it says. THAT is true ignorance and arrogance: fearing information.

vchampionl70
12-24-2004, 01:08 PM
Disagreeing with someone doesn't make one ignorant. Fearing news and information, for any reason, is ignorant. It's better to take it seriously and try to disprove it, then automatically shun it regardless of what it says. THAT is true ignorance and arrogance: fearing information.

Believe me, that's not the reason I think you're ignorant.

Kazimierz
12-25-2004, 06:35 AM
Believe me, that's not the reason I think you're ignorant.

Then tell me why.