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SliddY
12-21-2004, 10:42 PM
I'm sure you've heard about the clothesline tackle made by Donovan Darius. Robert Ferguson was temporarily paralyzed, yet Donovan only got a 75,000$ fine. Sure it's big for a normal person, but not for someone of his stature. Not even a suspension.

The Tackle (http://espn.starwave.com/media/nfl/2004/1219/photo/a_ferguson_il.jpg)

It was clearly blatent.

Pfef63
12-21-2004, 11:03 PM
It was not intentional. If you think it was, you have never played football.

If you watch the play closely, he went to make the play, overran his man, and in a last-ditch effort to make the tackle swung his arm up and hit him. Of course it was a bad hit, but it wasn't intentional. It was a good punishment.

SliddY
12-21-2004, 11:06 PM
Hmm, that's not what I thought... I'll try and find a clip.

Devastation
12-21-2004, 11:07 PM
No, I don't think he meant to hurt the guy, he was trying to make the play and his football instincts got the better of him.

Biological_Dad
12-21-2004, 11:10 PM
I think the hard hit was intentional. However, i think there should be no punishment for Darius, these guys are getting paid a lot of money to play and part of playing is risking getting hurt.

SliddY
12-21-2004, 11:11 PM
Eh, I can't seem to find a video.

I'm gonna side with you guys on this one, since I have never played football.

P.S. - Nice call pfef.

poopchow
12-21-2004, 11:22 PM
See, no good comes from any donovan.

That tackle was blatantly irresponsible, i say a game suspension and 150k fine.

People can die that way in front of millions of people.

TheTechnician
12-21-2004, 11:25 PM
that hit was definitely uncalled for...he went high on his clothesline and got him right on his neck....it was pathetic, and was disgusting to watch.....i dont think the $75,000 fine was enough...he should at least be suspended for a couple games.

Awesome Andrew
12-21-2004, 11:55 PM
Here is a bigger picture:

Hit (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041220/capt.wimg10412200112.jaguars_packers_wimg104.jpg)

And yeah, the ref made the right call by throwing Darius out. Total cheap shot.

Kusanagi
12-22-2004, 12:04 AM
I saw this when it happened and I don't think it was intentional. The reciever was up in the air when Darius brought his arm up. The reciever was on his way down when he was hit. Had he stayed in the air another quarter second, the blow would have hit his chest and not been a penalty.

Still, hell of a hit no matter how you look at it...

TheTechnician
12-22-2004, 02:22 AM
the thing was that darius followed through and kept driving through with his arm.....he said that they are taught to go for the ball if you cant make a tackle........it doesnt take a force like that to knock a ball loose. It was cheap and dangerous, if it wasnt he wouldnt have got fined

2000 civic si
12-22-2004, 05:33 AM
He knew what he was doing, he said the he was going for the ball, since when did a person hold a football at there neck. That was intentional. When he caught the football it was at his stomach. What's next, some one going to leg drop someone.

Nerdcraft
12-22-2004, 12:47 PM
Football players right now are such pussies. You can't make contact with the reciever outside of 5 yards, you are barely alowed to touch the quarterback...Please, hits like that happened every game in the 70's, I understand we know a lot more about what can happen with injuries from hits like that, but damn, they are starting to look like girls

/\/eO
12-22-2004, 01:08 PM
Football players right now are such pussies. You can't make contact with the reciever outside of 5 yards, you are barely alowed to touch the quarterback...Please, hits like that happened every game in the 70's, I understand we know a lot more about what can happen with injuries from hits like that, but damn, they are starting to look like girls

I don't care how much money these guys get paid, I don't want them paralyzed. :bang:

TheTechnician
12-22-2004, 01:15 PM
Football players right now are such pussies. You can't make contact with the reciever outside of 5 yards, you are barely alowed to touch the quarterback...Please, hits like that happened every game in the 70's, I understand we know a lot more about what can happen with injuries from hits like that, but damn, they are starting to look like girls

hmm you make an excellent point against yourself.........in the 70's this was allowed, AND GUYS WERE GETTING SERIOUSLY INJURED. This is why they made the rule, for the safety of their players. Its just the same thing as making construction workers wear hard hats and making factory workers wear steel toe boots.

Nerdcraft
12-22-2004, 01:30 PM
No, it's not the same, they are being payed to play a game. A very physical game, and now every year it seems like there is a new rule against hitting someone hard

TheTechnician
12-22-2004, 01:47 PM
its still their job and their health though you see what i mean....

bob991
12-22-2004, 02:59 PM
That was a complete accident. I played cornerback on my school's football team this year and swinging a clothesline is what they tell you to do. When the receiver is still in the air, you take a swing at him and try and dislodge the ball. The only reason Darius hit him was because Ferguson's body twisted around when he made the catch, Darius was going for the ball 100%. I seriously doubt he had any interest in actually hurting another football player. Although it was an accident, the ref made the right call in throwing him out of the game.