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[ypsidan04]

Read, and comment if desired.

In Defense of tATu
Breezay, Rob and Nike, October 2003

many of their quotes and actions have been taken out of context.

The media have accused the girls of secretly having boyfriends; however, if this is so than why doesn't there exist any unambiguous photos--a kiss, an embrace...anything? :confused:

But they have been standing up for this cause, often at great personal risk. Yulia and Lena were targeted with knives and bottles at a concert in Russia by a group of homophobic males, some claiming that their daughters and ex-girlfriends had become lesbians because of tATu, and they have received numerous threats on their lives in the last year. :(

On a popular television show in Russia, Yulia and Lena debated with a priest the issue of their portrayals of lesbian imagery while he condemned them to “eternal damnation," :rolleyes: fueling the fire of religious zealots in Russia and increasing the risk to the girls’ safety.

Yet, despite all this, the girls have not changed their ways. Like any human being, they must value their existence much more than fame and fortune, so are they really putting their lives in danger just for the money? There must be something more.

Given all of this it is difficult to understand why they seem to be criticized much more than most artists out there when they have ultimately done good for society. They have been responsible for giving many young people the courage to come out to themselves, their friends and families.

The controversy caused by tATu clearly shows us that, unfortunately, we live in a world of labeling and boundaries, even in the gay community. We do not always have to look for clear-cut distinctions; why not acknowledge and celebrate the shades of gray? Here we have a teenage couple showing us how to live without these boundaries and rules.

Instead of focusing on the negative aspects of the duo, why not bask in the positive aspects the girls embody: the freedom to challenge society, and the freedom to love whomever you want.

[droogsteve]

What a waste of fucking bandwidth.

[Potgut]

Originally posted by droogsteve
What a waste of fucking bandwidth.

Did you read it? What was it about? Im too lazy to read all that. Who else read it?

[Karly]

Originally posted by droogsteve
What a waste of fucking bandwidth.

[brainkandy87]

You got to it first Droog...kudos.

I didn't bother reading it, but I can tell you, this furthers the conclusion that sid is...well...we all know what sid is.

[King_Nothing]

god damn
i want that 1.5 minutes of my life back. STOP WITH TATU . The people on these forums are not going to change their opinion on those frauds just because u cut and paste some article. STOP or someone just delete his/her gay ass threads

[WhatTheFluck295]

Does anyone else hear that scraping sound? Oh, I know what it is...

...it's yipsidan digging himself in EVEN DEEPER :rolleyes:

[Timebomb]

WTF!!! I thread about tatu, and no pics of them makin out. We shall remedy that.

[Kanism]

Originally posted by Timebomb
WTF!!! I thread about tatu, and no pics of them makin out. We shall remedy that. why did you post a pic of two pre-adolescent boys making out?

[brainkandy87]

he thought sid would need something to go to sleep with?

[Anti-Hero]

I don't really give a fuck that they're actually gay.
or that the exploit it.
I give a fuck that I can roll my ur-a-thane down to the packy and get a soda though.
roll like a mothafucka all day long.

[Red300ZX]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
Read, and comment if desired.

In Defense of tATu
Breezay, Rob and Nike, October 2003...

Didn't feel like reading the whole post above? I have the solution.

[bismarksinker]

sid, honestly dude, do you think anyone really cares anymore?

just about everyone has given up on you and your afeminate approach to life,

do something for me, reach in your pants, somewhere in the area between your legs you should find a loose sac of skin, in that sac you should find two eliptical spheres, these are called balls, get to know them well.

[NatetheGreat]

You like TATU cause they're lesbian and they grabb ass and kiss on stage. The players in the nfl give a little touchie grabb but nobody cares because they're entertained by the game. So in short, TATU has nothing to attract fans except for ass grabbing. No talent lesbians.

[Anti-Hero]

Originally posted by bismarksinker
sid, honestly dude, do you think anyone really cares anymore?

just about everyone has given up on you and your afeminate approach to life,

do something for me, reach in your pants, somewhere in the area between your legs you should find a loose sac of skin, in that sac you should find two eliptical spheres, these are called balls, get to know them well. says the liar to the homo.

[Jordan]

Anti that was mean, but I must say it was VERY FUNNY. I just let out such an evil laugh when I read that. Thanks alot for a good laugh :D

edit: lol I just read it again!

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by Anti-Hero
says the liar to the homo. LOL! You're hard core, Anti-Hero. :cool:

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by Timebomb
WTF!!! I thread about tatu, and no pics of them makin out. We shall remedy that.

Holy shit! No one's ever done that, and I've never seen that one (and I've seen a lot :D ). Thanks.

I'll delete some of the stuff.

Originally posted by NatetheGreat
You like TATU cause they're lesbian and they grabb ass and kiss on stage. The players in the nfl give a little touchie grabb but nobody cares because they're entertained by the game. So in short, TATU has nothing to attract fans except for ass grabbing. No talent lesbians.

I like them because of these reasons:

1. They're hot
2. They have a good voice
3. They're lesbians (supposedly)
4. Their "we-don't-give-a-fuck" attitude

"grabbing ass" - They don't really do that. There's more breast grabbing going on. :D ;)

[brainkandy87]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
4. Their "we-don't-give-a-fuck" attitude

So I assume you like Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, and Pink as well?

[King_Nothing]

yeah he probably listens to them all while having tea parties with his other friends...Nevermind, i dont think a teenage boy that is obsessed with tatu has any friends.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by brainkandy87
So I assume you like Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, and Pink as well?

Avril is okay, but I don't care about either of the others. But why I said that is because they don't care what people say bad about them, they do what they want, and they are very "in your face" - see my sig: Things you wont hear them say - "Okay, if you don't want us to kiss, then we won't kiss"

WHat does liking Tatu have to do with having friends (or lack there of)? I've got plenty of 'em. My best friend just found out that I like them about a week ago - he didn't think much of it. Plus, I've got some new aquaintances b/c of a common interest in Tatu.

[Ragnarok]

Sid, you gotta understand ther're a lot of kinds of people in the world. What you must learn is to think before you speak, think to yourself, "Are these people gonna post more dick pics of me if I say this? Will this help my case at all?" Music is not something you can be talked into liking. You have run across a forum where the majority of the members don't agree with you on musical preferences. Get over it, your not changing any minds. Quit posting about tatu and avril, you'll get a lot less crap.

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by ypsidan04


WHat does liking Tatu have to do with having friends (or lack there of)? I've got plenty of 'em. The people at your NAMBLA meetings don't count.

[Serendipity]

Im sorry YP, Im nice to everyone, but this is exactly why people think you are a female, not to mention an annoying little shit:rolleyes:

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by Serendipity
Im sorry YP, Im nice to everyone, but this is exactly why people think you are a female, not to mention an annoying little shit:rolleyes:

Well, I'm also nice to people, but I have to say that all the crap I get over this is rediculous. How many times do I have to say that there are plenty of (straight) male fans? A lot of 'em. (Hello?! Have you looked at them lately? That should be your first clue, and I'm not the only guy in the world who appreciates good female voices, with good & usually fast-paced music). If you don't like the music, fine. But let me hold my own opinions for once. It's complete bullshit - It's not like I/we listen to Celine Dion for gosh sakes! You must have other things to post instead of how they can't sing, and how I'm gay or feminine for liking them.

All I'm asking is that you read that shortened form of the article at the beginning here.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by mgunit
The problem is that you constantly bring up Tatu. The topic has been run into the ground a million times, and I believe that you like the attention (flame) you get from posting this shit. How many times do we have to discuss Tatu before you will be happy?

I'll agree to disagree if you can too. It seems that even when I give good reasons for my side, it doesn't do anything - that's what I was trying to do with this thread - try to get some people to listen to reason. I didn't want to turn this into another "They suck, No they don't" thread. I wanted to discuss the article.

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by the silly faggot
You must have other things to post instead of how they can't sing, and how I'm gay or feminine for liking them.

we've been wondering if you have anything to post that doesn't involve their name, as well :rolleyes:
just shut the fuck up about them, and i promise NO ONE will ever bring them up again. i guess common sense, isn't too common nowadays...

[gUy]

dude no one fuckin cares about the aritcle. no one even cares about tatu(cept they suck) hell no one even cares about you. so stop bitching cuz no ones gonna change their minds.

is this what your thinking??
EXAMPLE:
mgunit(sorry i used you as my example)
mgunit:tatu sucks
5mins later
mgunit:HOLY CRAP TATU IS GOD LOTS NOT MESS WIT SID ANYMORE SINCE TATU IS GOD!!!!!

well you see thats not gonna happen. so just stop protecting tatu here cuz no one likes them here and listen to different shit

[Kanism]

I noticed your new sig, sid...you are straight...but not narrow....is this to mean that you are hetero, but still take it in the ass?

[ShrtStff331]

i vote that the word "tatu" and all code words for it should be banned from ebaums forever.

sorry sid, i have nothing against you, im just getting really sick and tired of everytime you post something, there being a million different flames. i realize that most of this isnt ur fault, but you do fuel the fire by bringing them up constantly.

and no, tATu isnt God, orlando bloom is God, and i am the Shower Goddess.

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by ShrtStff331
and no, tATu isnt God, orlando bloom is God, and i am the Shower Goddess. "Who would win in a fight, Lemmy or God?" "Lemmy" "WRONG! It's a trick question, Lemmy IS God!!"

[ShrtStff331]

whos lemmy?

(blah blah blah, sorry, the 3 word post thing)

[gibridehome]

Originally posted by droogsteve
"Who would win in a fight, Lemmy or God?" "Lemmy" "WRONG! It's a trick question, Lemmy IS God!!"

Holy Shit!!! Someone likes Airheads besides me??!?!?!

"Hey!! We got all sorts of beer and shit in here!!!"

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by ShrtStff331
whos lemmy?

(blah blah blah, sorry, the 3 word post thing) My God, what's wrong with you kids??!! Lemmy is Lemmy Kilmister, founder and frontman of the one and only MOTORHEAD!!

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by gibridehome
Holy Shit!!! Someone likes Airheads besides me??!?!?! Hell yeah! It's a must see for any rock fan.

[ShrtStff331]

im sorry. please dont blow my house up.

[Serendipity]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
Well, I'm also nice to people, but I have to say that all the crap I get over this is rediculous. How many times do I have to say that there are plenty of (straight) male fans? A lot of 'em. (Hello?! Have you looked at them lately? That should be your first clue, and I'm not the only guy in the world who appreciates good female voices, with good & usually fast-paced music). If you don't like the music, fine. But let me hold my own opinions for once. It's complete bullshit - It's not like I/we listen to Celine Dion for gosh sakes! You must have other things to post instead of how they can't sing, and how I'm gay or feminine for liking them.

All I'm asking is that you read that shortened form of the article at the beginning here. And I wasn't asking for a two page response, hell I wasn't even looking for a response....:rolleyes:

[NatetheGreat]

I'm just going to take this opportunity to futively flirt with ShrtStff again. Anyway if you're the shower goddess, where do I sign up to be your personal demi god of scrubbing you down with soap and massages..just wondering if you've got the link handy.

Yeah, and there needs to be like a tatu forum or something cause this is old. It was funny the first time, and now it's like, shit I'm reading the exact same thing. Yeah so can you mod gods do anything about this?

[Kanism]

why, for fuck's sake, would anyone create a forum for them? blech....

[NatetheGreat]

Yeah you're right, but isn't there anything the mods can do... or do we have to continue to see the same tatu argument? Sid vs. The people. I've heard their music and it's shit in it's purest music. Russians suck at everything but making nukes.

[droogsteve]

Originally posted by NatetheGreat
Russians suck at everything but making nukes. They also make good vodka.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by ShrtStff331
i realize that most of this isnt ur fault, but you do fuel the fire by bringing them up constantly.

and no, tATu isnt God, orlando bloom is God, and i am the Shower Goddess.

I bring it up because it's a big part of my life. And I know Kane doesn't agree with me, but I can't come up with another girl around that looks better than Lena.

Originally posted by Kanism
why, for fuck's sake, would anyone create a forum for them? blech....

One thing to tell you: 2 million records sold in JUST JAPAN. Only the FOURTH ever to do that - The Beatles, The Carpenters, and Mariah Carey are the others.

I'll try to let it go however. ANd the sig means I'm straight, but open-minded.

[gibridehome]

Originally posted by ypsidan04

One thing to tell you: 2 million records sold in JUST JAPAN. Only the FOURTH ever to do that - The Beatles, The Carpenters, and Mariah Carey are the others.


Yes, the TATUs among such classics as the carpenters and mariah carey. Obviously the Japenese have impecable taste for wonderful music if mariah carrey and the carpenters sold so many albums. Really, who gives a fuck about how many albums sold and all this Japenese statistics that show why anyone should give a shit about this band. Decide why you like them and talk about that(or even better, bring it up when you're provoked, not just because you feel like talking about them). I like the ramones and the stooges and all these bands, but I don't feel the need to defend them and talk about them all the time. Just because a mass amount of people bought a certain record doesn't mean the record will be fabulous. It's usually the opposite.

[chris_78660]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
ANd the sig means I'm straight, but open-minded.
when did heterosexuality mean that you were closed minded?.........ooooooooooooo i get it, you are open minded to homosexual expirences. now it makes sense...

[Kanism]

Originally posted by chris_78660
when did heterosexuality mean that you were closed minded?.........ooooooooooooo i get it, you are open minded to homosexual expirences. now it makes sense... that's what I said...but not so eloquently...Originally posted by Phuc N Hung
you are straight...but not narrow....is this to mean that you are hetero, but still take it in the ass?
and gib...that's the problem...none of his words or thoughts have been his own...he's too busy rattling off the opinions and stats that MTV and VH1 taught him the night before...NONE of his thoughts have been his own....NAMBLA controls the kid.

[ShrtStff331]

wow nate, you make me feel so loved. do you wanna be my georgia hottie? im trying to get one from all 50 states. anyone else let me know if you wanna be one of them. auditions include stripping, showering, and bathing suit catergories.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by chris_78660
when did heterosexuality mean that you were closed minded

No, thats not it. I just think that homosexuals don't deserve to be looked at like they're aliens or something, just because they love s/o of the same sex. But that should go without saying - no homophobe would like t.A.T.u. ;)

gilbridehome - you don't feel the need to defend them, because you don't have to. I do - what with their revealing clothing and so-called lesbian "antics". :rolleyes: - And that's just their personality....then there's the music criticism to deal with. I don't go around yelling praise about Third Eye Blind or Red Hot Chili Peppers b/c they don't have so many critics (and they're not attractive girls, either).

[Jordan]

You gay freak!

[stevib]

Originally posted by ypsidan04
I bring it up because it's a big part of my life.


mu. ha. haha. haaa
my laugh was really evil. Do you like my evil laugh?





tatu are shit

[BigMattTheHobo]

AAAHHHHH STOP TALKING ABOUT TATU!!!! NOBODY GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK SID.

[ypsidan04]

Originally posted by stevib
mu. ha. haha. haaa
my laugh was really evil. Do you like my evil laugh?

What made you bring this back up again?