all time best football (soccer) team

[blue_alert82]

im not sure if there are many soccer fans here, but lets have you pick your all time best 11, in a 4-4-2 formation

[poopchow]

Juan Pedro
Pedro Hernandez
Pablo Guerrero (sp)
Alex Sanchez

[blue_alert82]

i kno about the old thread , but lets have old players, this is an all time 11, so go for it

[STiSchucky]

what the hell is this

Pele Ronaldo and Freddy adu will anchor my team

[piggyman18]

what the hell is this

Pele Ronaldo and Freddy adu will anchor my team

No offense, but you must not know shit about soccer. Freddy Adu is a joke. Could be on someone's greatest team 10 years from now, but you can't assume things.

[STiSchucky]

No offense, but you must not know shit about soccer. Freddy Adu is a joke. Could be on someone's greatest team 10 years from now, but you can't assume things.
me and 99% of america.

[Kazimierz]

The Cracovia (http://www.cracovia.krakow.pl/) soccer team, and their fans.

Yes, we may lose, but we will kill you.

Pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0234.JPG), pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0068.JPG), pic (http://lksfans.ys.pl/race/czerwone/cracovia_motor_3.jpg)

[blue_alert82]

The Cracovia (http://www.cracovia.krakow.pl/) soccer team, and their fans.

Yes, we may lose, but we will kill you.

Pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0234.JPG), pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0068.JPG), pic (http://lksfans.ys.pl/race/czerwone/cracovia_motor_3.jpg)

Are they a european team? if so id like to see them come to northern ireland and try that shit in a european game at windsor park, haha theyd travel home in boxes

[Lex]

.........................................Puskas

......Cafu..................Matteus............Mal dini................Zambrotta

...............................Platini...........K eane

..Cryuff.............................Maradona..... ....................Zidane

..........................................Pele

[Nerdcraft]

My team:
Goalies- Gianluigi Buffon, Francesco Toldo, Christian Abbiati

Defense- Fabio Cannavaro, Alessandro Nesta, Paolo Maldini, Christian Panucci, Mark Iuliano, Marco Materazzi, Francesco Coco

Midfielders- Gianluca Zambrotta, Gennaro Gattuso, Damiano Tommasi, Cristiano Zanetti, Cristiano Doni, Angelo Di Livio, Luigi Di Biagio

Forwards- Christian Vieri, Alessandro Del Piero, Filippo Inzaghi, Vincenzo Montella, Marco Delvecchio, Francesco Totti

And an older thread about this, for insight: http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=43985&page=1
Screw the Italian soccer team, I'll take the Cleveland Crunch

[MrDeliquent85]

Some candidates ....
Peter Schmeichel ~ Oliver Kahn ~ Gordan Banks ~ Dino Zoff ~ Jose Chilavert

Carlos Alberto ~ Paulo Maldini ~ Franz Beckenbauer ~ Bobby Moore ~ Alessandro Nesta

Zinedine Zidane ~ Michel Platini ~ George Best ~ Johan Cruyff ~ Luis Figo ~ Roberto Baggio

Diego Maradona ~ Pele ~ Marco van Basten ~ Ronaldo ~ Zico

[blue_alert82]

what the hell is this

Pele Ronaldo and Freddy adu will anchor my team
if the guy was so good he would be playing in a slightly better league than MLS that league is a joke, its for retired pros from europe, and you cant "anchor" your team with three forwards

[James Bond 007]

what the hell is this

Pele Ronaldo and Freddy adu will anchor my team
:icon_rofl at your obvious lack of knowledge of football...... Freddy Adu is a Ghanaian kid with potential, sure alot of potential but we have seen loads like him come and go especialy in England, a few people on here might remember an English lad call Sonny, he was always on Blue peter (kids show in the UK) showing off his ball skills and he was wanted by every big team in europe, in the end he went to the biggest team at that time in europe Ajax when he was about 12 and he hasnt been heard of since, I read in World Soccer Magazine not long ago that he is older now and has changed his name from Sonny to summat else bcoz he doesnt want people to remember who he is and take the piss out of him.


Anyway back to buisness:

...........................................Ray Clemence
.......Alan Kennedy.........Alan Hansen........Mark Lawrenson......Emlyn Hughes
.....Billy Liddell.............Graeme Souness...Terry McDermott......Steve Heighway
...........................Kenny Dalglish
................................................Ro bbie Fowler (AKA God)

Subs:
Bruce Grobbelaar
Phil Neal
Phil Thompson
John Barnes
Steve McManaman
Ray Kennedy
Jan Molby
Ian Rush
Kevin Keegan

This team would own!!! For those of you who either are American or not in the know my team is a Liverpool F.C Allstar team and believe me a team made up of Liverpool's (who have had some of the best players every to grace English and european football in their sides) best players ever is the sort of thing dreams are made of.... The ones where you wake up and your bed sheets are damp and crusty lol.

[STiSchucky]

if the guy was so good he would be playing in a slightly better league than MLS that league is a joke, its for retired pros from europe, and you cant "anchor" your team with three forwards
nobody cares about soccer in america. Case closed. well maybe 1%

[blue_alert82]

nobody cares about soccer in america. Case closed. well maybe 1%
well then dont try and say that a soccer player who plays in america is good, case closed ;)

[James Bond 007]

well then dont try and say that a soccer player who plays in america is good, case closed ;)
He is actualy supposed to be alright, I have seen a few vids where he takes on a whole team before scoring, I know what you are saying though, the quality of footy in the U S is pretty shoddy but they are still relativley new to the game. If I was playing in America I bet I could do stuff like take on a whole team before scoring, Adu will only be able to step up a gear if he plays real football in europe, would he be able to take on a whole team before scoring in England, Spain or Italy???....... Absolutley not!

You didnt say if my team met your standards Blue_Alert, I hope it does bcoz if it doesnt I think you should take an interest in another sport..... Hurling lol.

[blue_alert82]

your team are all very good players, but the whole 80's liverpool thing?? im wondering if ur telling me the best team of all time, rather than picking your own?

[diz]

gk: zoff
lb: maldini
cb: moore
cb: baresi
rb: thuram
lm: best
cm: gascoigne
cm: cruyff
rm: beckham
fw: pele
fw: maradona

too many other great players to fit in one team but these would be a pretty good starting XI

[blue_alert82]

gk: zoff
lb: maldini
cb: moore
cb: baresi
rb: thuram
lm: best
cm: gascoigne
cm: cruyff
rm: beckham
fw: pele
fw: maradona

too many other great players to fit in one team but these would be a pretty good starting XI

ahh a true connoisseur of the game, reps, maybe lev yashin in goals tho?

[coolermaster]

GK: Peter Schmeichel
LB: Frank Rijkaard
CB: Beckenbauer
RB: Ledley King
DMF: Zinedine Zidane
LMF:Michel Platini
CMF: Roberto Baggio
RMF: Johan Cruijff
OMF: Diego Maradona
CF: Pele
CF: George Best

:bow:

[N00N00]

Ledley King :icon_rofl

Don't get me wrong the guy looks good and has loads of potential but he's a million miles away from anyone on that list right now. He's very young and hasn't even had a career yet - yet you've put him along side so many legends - do you have a crystal ball or something?

[coolermaster]

Ledley King :icon_rofl

Don't get me wrong the guy looks good and has loads of potential but he's a million miles away from anyone on that list right now. He's very young and hasn't even had a career yet - yet you've put him along side so many legends - do you have a crystal ball or something?

hahaha, yeah basically I couldn't think of a last defender, so i basically picked a random defender whose the man. Ledley King was the first guy to pop into my head, but I forgot about Maldini at the time, so whatevs.

[mjcole12]

GK ''BIG'' Nevil Southall
LB Andy ''freekick'' Hinchcliff
RB Tony '' i look like duncan ferguson'' hibbert
CB Dave ''kept owen in his back pocket ''Watson
CB Joey Yobo aka the yobonator

LM Kevin '' zinadine'' Kilbane
RM Andrey '' mafia'' Kanchelskis
CM Lee ''scored past the red s***e'' carsley
CM Tim ''the little big man'' Cahill

ST Marcus ''didnt cost £14.5M and hasnt broke his leg'' Bent
ST William Ralph ''Dixie'' dean (scored 66 goals in 1 season)

SUB Nigel ''safe hands'' Martyn
SUB Duncan ''I look like Tony Hibbert'' Ferguson aka Drunken Disorderly
SUB Leon ''man of the moment'' Osman
SUB Paul aka''pork pie'' aka'' Gazza'' aka''the baby'' Gascoine
SUB Kevin ''saved our asses'' Campbell
SUB Danny ''ran on the pitch and scored 2 goals in ten mins in the 95 FA cup semi final without the managers permission'' amokachi


incase you dont know who these players are they all do or have played for EVERTON F.C. some of them are not the best players in the world but have propelled us into a possible champions league place after we were predicted to be religated this season

everton are now ranked the 17th best team in the world 2 places above arch rivals liverpool
at the start of the season we would have been ranked about 300th

[Senor_Queso]

nobody cares about soccer in america. Case closed. well maybe 1%
Look, this is exactly the reason why you become the center of so many flame wars. I'm not posting any more in this thread other than this right here, but you need to get a lot better about your lack of knowledge of soccer, and your belief that all of America is with you when you say you hate the sport and you haven't played more than 3 games.

[mjcole12]

so you and america dont like football (its not soccer)
oh no what are going to do 270 mil people dont like our sport of chioce
were as 5.75 billion love it

and that 5.75 billion also hate you pansey assed version of rugby
you guys call american football


from now on am changeing the name of american football to ladies soccer

[celticfc]

diz no way would beckham be in that squad there r many players around now a million times better than him in his position never mind over the hole history of football

[murc]

Maybe not the absolute best team, but some of my favorites.

GK- Lev Yashin
B- Trifon Ivanov
B- Ruud Gullit
B- Lothar Matthaus
B- Franz Beckenbauer
M- Hristo Stoichkov
M- Alfredo Di Stefano
M- Stanley Matthews
M- Johan Cruyff
F- Diego Maradona
F- Maco Van Bastern

[Bizh0]

Maybe not the absolute best team, but some of my favorites.

GK- Lev Yashin
B- Trifon Ivanov
B- Ruud Gullit
B- Lothar Matthaus
B- Franz Beckenbauer
M- Hristo Stoichkov
M- Alfredo Di Stefano
M- Stanley Matthews
M- Johan Cruyff
F- Diego Maradona
F- Maco Van Bastern
hah, you just named my PES4 ML team, except for Ivanov and Van Basten lol
Matthews = Best player in this list.

[Maxlikesboys911]

What Posers. Who likes Feddy hes like 5 why would any one put him on their team. He would never match up to David Beckham at this age. i am not saying Dwavid is the best but he is very good when he was with Man U. although i think now he is not doing as well... espicially with the fans.

[DFB]

What Posers. Who likes Feddy hes like 5
Hes 15, you silly goose.

[IsItLiquidOrICE]

Not ONE person mentioned Ali Daei of Iran. :shout:

[James Bond 007]

Not ONE person mentioned Ali Daei of Iran. :shout:
Joking right?

[Bizh0]

Not ONE person mentioned Ali Daei of Iran. :shout:
there's a good reason too, no one knows who the hell is he

[GRBomber]

I see few brazilian players listed. The best country (in terms of soccer) in the world should have more players.

Pelé is guaranteed (sp?).
Take a look at some players from 1970 and u ppl will see what Im talking about.
Today we have so many great players, like ronaldo, ronaldinho gaucho, adriano, luis fabiano, deco (he is brazilian), dida, cafu, roberto carlos, romario (old but playing in brazil), rivaldo (not that great anymore) , kaka, just to name a few.

From that small list, I believe romario could be included if we move maradona to the mid field.
No offense, but soccer on USA? :insane:

[James Bond 007]

I see few brazilian players listed. The best country (in terms of soccer) in the world should have more players.

Pelé is guaranteed (sp?).
Take a look at some players from 1970 and u ppl will see what Im talking about.
Today we have so many great players, like ronaldo, ronaldinho gaucho, adriano, luis fabiano, deco (he is brazilian), dida, cafu, roberto carlos, romario (old but playing in brazil), rivaldo (not that great anymore) , kaka, just to name a few.

From that small list, I believe romario could be included if we move maradona to the mid field.
No offense, but soccer on USA? :insane:
Couldnt agree more with you about the 1970 Brazil world cup winning side (Carlos Alberto, Jairzinho, Tostao, Rivelino and Pele to name a few) they were probably the best football team ever (club or national) but I honestly dont know how you can think that half the Brazilian national side of now should be in an "ALL TIME" dream team. The only players in the Brazil side at the minute that would have any chance of being in an all time dream team would be Cafu and Ronaldinho.

[diz]

GK: Peter Schmeichel
LB: Frank Rijkaard
CB: Beckenbauer
RB: Ledley King
DMF: Zinedine Zidane
LMF:Michel Platini
CMF: Roberto Baggio
RMF: Johan Cruijff
OMF: Diego Maradona
CF: Pele
CF: George Best

:bow:

Ledley King? maybe one day, not until sol campbell , rio ferdinand and john terry are gone

[diz]

diz no way would beckham be in that squad there r many players around now a million times better than him in his position never mind over the hole history of football

ok genius, name me another right sided midfielder who can put a pass on a forwards foot from anywhere on the pitch?

[diz]

Not ONE person mentioned Ali Daei of Iran. :shout:

maybe thats because Ali Daei of Iran isn't good enough to get into the top 500 let alone the top 11

[Henkie]

ok genius, name me another right sided midfielder who can put a pass on a forwards foot from anywhere on the pitch?

I'm thinking about Gerald Vanenburg, and Johan Cruijff (both Dutch, yes so am I). You probably don't know Vanenburg, but he was one of the most important players in the 1988 Dutch squad that won the EC, though he left PSV for some German club and kinda got lost. Still very good. I see you've got Cruijff as a central midfielder, but he was a left-forward, but in a 4-3-3 tactic, so that basically equals a left midfielder in a 4-4-2 and he was right footed. That would leave you a hole in the central midfield for Pele (he was a midfielder, I seem to remember) and then you could add an extra striker (maybe van Basten, to stay in the Dutch scene?)

Now that I've been behaving cocky, I guess I should explain why I haven't posted my players: I know to few players from before the 80's to make a good decision, so I think I shouldn't make a decision at all.

On the other hand, a couple of weaks ago I have been making my favorite team of players still playing, so I'll post that one here:

Gk: Buffon
Dr: Salgado
Dl: Kaladze
Dc: Cannavaro
Dc: Carvalho
Dmc: Vieira
Amc: Lampard
Mr: Zambrotta
Ml: Robben
Fc: Ronaldinho
Fc: van Nistelrooij

[mjcole12]

ok genius, name me another right sided midfielder who can put a pass on a forwards foot from anywhere on the pitch?


Rui Costa

Joaquin

[The Wat Now]

GK - Schmeichel
LB - Carlos
RB - Neville
CB - Nesta
CB - Ferdinand
LM - Giggs
RM - Beckham
CM - Zidane
CM - Davids
ST - Van Nistelrooy
ST - Shearer/Ronaldo

[James Bond 007]

GK - Schmeichel
LB - Carlos
RB - Neville
CB - Nesta
CB - Ferdinand
LM - Giggs
RM - Beckham
CM - Zidane
CM - Davids
ST - Van Nistelrooy
ST - Shearer/Ronaldo
Are you a United fan by any chance??? How can Ferdinand be in an all time greatest 11 when hes not even the best centre half in this country??? :insane:

[mjcole12]

Are you a United fan by any chance??? How can Ferdinand be in an all time greatest 11 when hes not even the best centre half in this country??? :insane:


leave the lad alone you posted an entire geriatric ward of ex liverpool players

[James Bond 007]

leave the lad alone you posted an entire geriatric ward of ex liverpool players
Geriatric???? Apart from Dixie Dean none of those Everton "All Stars" (If you can call them that) you posted would be fit for cleaning the boots of any of those Liverpool legends.
The only reason I didnt post a world all time best 11 is bcoz I didnt want to make everyone else who posted look stupid but ok:

..........................................BANKS... .....................................
..........................................(Eng)... ........................................

....CARLOS ALBERTO....BECKENBAUR.....MOORE............P.MALDI NI...
..........(Bra)...................(W.Ger)......... (Eng)..............(Ita).........

.........................................KEANE.... ......................................
...........................................(Ire).. .........................................
........BEST...................................... ......................PLATINI........
........(N.Ire)................................... .........................(Fra)..........
.....................................MARADONA..... ....................................
........................................(Arg)..... .........................................
......................VAN BASTEN......................PELE.................. .........
..........................(Hol)................... .........(Bra)...........................


Subs:

*YASHIN USSR
*BARESI Ita
*CAFU Bra
*ZIDANE Fra
*DI STEFANO Arg/ Spa
*CRUYFF Hol
*GARINCHA Bra

The name of this thread was "ALL TIME BEST FOOTBALL (SOCCER) TEAM", well theres no need to reply now bcoz this is it.

[mjcole12]

Geriatric???? Apart from Dixie Dean none of those Everton "All Stars" (If you can call them that) you posted would be fit for cleaning the boots of any of those Liverpool legends.

i didnt say that they were all legends

i said that they are my fav players
and half of them players that arnt fit to clean the boots of the liverpool legends are infact 7 points clear of liverpool

also robbie fowler isnt exactly a god

you have to have had a succesful carear and i have to say fowler hasnt won a championship or euro cup and he wasnt even good enuff to play for england

[James Bond 007]

also robbie fowler isnt exactly a god

you have to have had a succesful carear and i have to say fowler hasnt won a championship or euro cup and he wasnt even good enuff to play for england
:eek: You insolent swine, Robbie Fowler is a legend, hes one of the best finishers to have ever graced the Premiership, he was very unlucky with injuries that when he recovered from not only was he never the same but there was a 17 year old by the name of Michael Owen who had broken into the team and was the new golden boy.
The reason he never won anything is bcoz he was playing in a side with no discepline (The Spiceboys), if we had a manager like Ferguson, Wenger or even Moyes during the 90s we would have won the Premiership with the team we had (Fowler, Collymore, McManaman, Redknapp, Ruddock, Wright, Scales, McAteer and James)
As for the England thing he was like McManaman, a different class for Liverpool but wasnt able to perform as well for the National side which I suppose is the opposite of Beckham whos club form is dodgey but (until recently) is imense for England.

[mjcole12]

]:eek: You insolent swine, Robbie Fowler is a legend,

he may be a leg-end but not a legend


hes one of the best finishers to have ever graced the Premiership

he was then he became crap and hardly ever scores goals



The reason he never won anything is bcoz he was playing in a side with no discepline (The Spiceboys), if we had a manager like Ferguson, Wenger or even Moyes during the 90s we would have won the Premiership with the team we had (Fowler, Collymore, McManaman, Redknapp, Ruddock, Wright, Scales, McAteer and James)

what a team that was Fowler-coke head, Collymore-wife beater,
thats a great line up that


am just having some banter with you as the derby is only days away

fowler was a great player for a while but i dont think you could say he is a legend as he wasnt good long enough

[mjcole12]

Ugh...soccer.

no its called football

[James Bond 007]

MJC I will resist the temptation to rub your nose in it (despite that being the most one sided derby I can remember) bcoz at the end of the day you are still 4 points ahead of us, I will wait till the end of the season before I do my gloating.

Well maybe just a little quick one......... HAVE SOME OF THAT!!! GET IN!!! :bang: :icon_rofl

[Lex]

Eventhough he was a Scouser, Robbie Fowler was a great Player. But He was not one of the all time greats.

[TheDawgPound72]

no its called football
Well, in America, the only country that matters, it's called soccer

[Henkie]

Which only illustrates why Americans are so popular all over the world...

No, seriously. There should be something like a rule against Americans posting in topics they don't understand (anything that has to do with Soccer, International affairs and/or anything concerning common sense).

Anyway, anybody who understands sports and language understands American Football is only named Football because they couldn't come up with an original name like Rugby-players did. Cause AF doesn't have much to do with feet. So I thinks it's only right to call soccer Football.

[N00N00]

Well, in America, the only country that matters, it's called soccer


TRANSLATION:

I've no idea what this thread is about. i don't know what i'm doing, and shouldn't even be here. I have nothing to contribute and nothing interesting or constructive to say. I'm not even interested in the thread yet have so much time on my hands that I went into a thread about something that bores me.

Despite all these facts I'm gonna do not one, but two gay, useless and totally unoriginal posts in an attempt to ruin the thread and take things off topic. However, this will at least prove I am both ignorant and stupid with no regard or respect for others.

[TheDawgPound72]

Alright, calm down, and back the fuck up, both of you.

Yes, I do understand soccer, but it pains me deeply to see it being called football, a game I know and love. This is a board in the US, and our language should be used. Football = "American", or "The Better" Football. Soccer = "Non-American" Futbol

[FireEater]

Point taken DP, now leave their thread and go elsewhere. There are plenty of American Football threads to post in.

And just because the board is located in America does not mean anyone cannot post about other sports in different countries.

FE

[N00N00]

Ok lets try to get this thread back onto the topic of football.

nice to see jose Mourinho proved to be a total twat in the papaers over the last few weeks. They might be a good side on the pitch, but they certainly lack basic decency and class.

[James Bond 007]

Eventhough he was a Scouser, Robbie Fowler was a great Player. But He was not one of the all time greats.
I never said Fowler is one of the all time greats.... He cant be compared the likes of Rush, Hunt, Pele, Di Stefano or Cruyff but he is a Liverpool legend for three reasons:

*Those two scorchers he scored against Man U at Old Toilet (he liked scoring against Manure)

*The quickest ever hatrick in football (4 minutes) against Arsenal

*And the fact that he is without doubt the best finisher the Premiership has ever seen, sure Henry is more skillful and can do amazing things with a ball and yes Shearer is the Best goal scorer the Premiership has ever seen and yes Van Horseface is the best goal-hanging cheat the Premiership has ever seen but for the 8 years he was in the first team at Liverpool he was amazing, he scored 171 goals in 330 games for Liverpool and won 6 trophies in that time.
He scored 18 goals in his first season with Liverpool he won young player of the year two years in a row (1995 and '96) and he scored over 30 goals in the 1994/95 season.

[N00N00]

yes Van Horseface is the best goal-hanging cheat the Premiership has ever seen

Indeed he is. Apparently he has NEVER scored for Man U from outside the box :icon_rofl

[James Bond 007]

Indeed he is. Apparently he has NEVER scored for Man U from outside the box :icon_rofl
What a surprise, wonder if its anything to do with him never being any less than 5 yards off side even when he scores.

[MrDeliquent85]

I find it funny people call Van a cheat but never give an example of when this "cheating" has taken place.

And so what he's never scored from outside the box .... I like to score in the (female) box too. :D

[Henkie]

What a surprise, wonder if its anything to do with him never being any less than 5 yards off side even when he scores.

Funny thing is, that Henry is even worse in scoring from offside-positions, because he is quite often actually offside. van Nistelrooij is just using this technique where he is offside (and therefore really hard to defend) just up to the moment when the ball is played. And ofcourse there's the new rule where players can be offside as long as they're not actually taking part in the game.

[James Bond 007]

I find it funny people call Van a cheat but never give an example of when this "cheating" has taken place.

And so what he's never scored from outside the box .... I like to score in the (female) box too. :D
Along with Pires he is the biggest diving (therefore cheating) twat, I found it amazing that Roy keane was asking for someone to make wrist bands for anti diving after they played Arsenal bcoz one of his own players is a diving shit too.
Heres one of the funniest pictures I have ever seen, its Van Horsemouth doing what he does best, conning the ref:

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/3425/cheatingtwat1cm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Im sure you will all agree with me when I say he takes diving to a whole new level, he looks like one of the bad guys on "The A-Team" when a grenade has blown up behind them.

[Lex]

I find it funny people call Van a cheat but never give an example of when this "cheating" has taken place.

And so what he's never scored from outside the box .... I like to score in the (female) box too. :D


The Vieira Incident last year.

[mjcole12]

Yes, I do understand soccer, but it pains me deeply to see it being called football, and we dont like it being called soccer


This is a board in the US, and our language should be used.
you dont have a language of your own you speak ENGLISH

football has been around from times before america was formed it goes all the way back to the 1300's posibly earlyer if the rumours about it originating in china are true



Football = "American", or "The Better" Football. Soccer = "Non-American" Futbol

by the way futbol is not football it is a seperate game that youngsters play in brazil using very small balls and i think it is 5-a side

the idea is to build up ball control as it is harder to play with a small ball than a large ball

[mikenorman54321]

Alright, calm down, and back the fuck up, both of you.

Yes, I do understand soccer, but it pains me deeply to see it being called football, a game I know and love. This is a board in the US, and our language should be used. Football = "American", or "The Better" Football. Soccer = "Non-American" Futbol


how the fuck can you compare football and american football :shout: :shout:

[GRBomber]

by the way futbol is not football it is a seperate game that youngsters play in brazil using very small balls and i think it is 5-a side

the idea is to build up ball control as it is harder to play with a small ball than a large ball

Im brazilian and I believe u are talking about "futsal".
Its something like "indoor football", but it's not always indoor.
It has nothing to do with youngsters and the idea is the same from regular football, except by the fact that some rules are different. Only 5 players per team.
I find it more fun then playing 11 x 11 in a big field, because in "futsal" everybody must attack and defend. Very fast pace.


ps: The portuguese word for football is "futebol"

[nearula]

Here's my two penneth :-

1. GK Peter Schmeichel
2. RB Carlos Alberto
3. LB Paulo Maldini
4. CH Booby Moore
5. CH Franz Beckenbaur
6. RM Johnan Cruffy
7. MF Eric Cantona
8. MF Michel Platini
9. ST Marco Van Basten
10. ST Diego Maradonna
11. LW Pele

Sub
12 GK Lev Yashin
13 DF Japp Stam
14 MF Bryan Robson
15 ST Wayne Rooney
16 ST George Best

[James Bond 007]

Robbo, Rooney and Stamm??? Are you retarded or just biased? :)

[The Wat Now]

What do you mean Ferdinand isnt even the best center back in the country who is then? Whe gets picked over terry campbell and Carragher and woodgate.

[James Bond 007]

Well Id have Terry over Ferdinand, Im not saying hes shit, hes a quality defender, but how you can even argue that he should be in an all time best 11 blows my mind.
By the way along with Gerrard, Carragher has been Liverpool's best player for the last 2 years, he never puts a foot wrong but doesnt get the recognition he deserves, if he was playing for Manure instead of Liverpool you would probably be arguing that Carragher is one of the best CBs of all time.
Part of the reason Ferdinand is over rated is bcoz he plays for Manure, as soon as you sign for those scum you are suddenly considered one of the best in the world its ridiculous.

[The Wat Now]

What like Forlan

[MrDeliquent85]

A bit harsh.
To be honest, when we first signed Ferdiand .. I was very sceptic but it wasnt until he was banned that I relised his real role in the team and any team. I like to call him the cucumber, although he does lack something special ... he is chill as fuck. This calm attitude he has allows him to make great tackles others wouldnt.
All this said, 'all time best' ? ...... nah , not yet anyways.

Robbo was a great player but not quite sure if he would be up there. Same with Stam. Maybe in the all time Man Utd team but not sure about the all time world team.

Rooney = No chance.

Carragher = very underrated. Even as it hurts to say, I think he should be playing rightback instead of Neville. I doubt he'll make centre half but Im all for him taking over from Neville at right. :thud: (ouch that hurt)

Edit: Forlan is a great player, good watch one of his games now. He was shit at utd.

[James Bond 007]

Thanx for that Mr D, I know how much that must have hurt, though to be honest I think this is the dilema with carragher; he is a great CB but bcoz England is blessed with so many truely world class CBs I feel Carragher (whilst playing for Liverpool anyway) will always be over looked.
At full back I dont feel Carragher is as effective, When Liverpool were playing with Babbel at RB, Hyypia and Henchoz at CB and Carragher at LB he did seem to make alot more mistakes than he does now, his best position is definatley CB but this is what is so great about Jamie, he is so versatile.
I dont think there is another defender in Europe maybe even the world that can adapt so well no matter where you play him in the back 4 (maybe Maldini).
I think Neville has built up such a good understanding with beckham through all the years playing for United and England that it would possibly upset the equalibrium (yey me with my big words :) ) if you changed that.

PS Isnt Sally gunnel er sorry Forlan the top scorer in Spain this season?

[The Wat Now]

No hes second behind Eto'o

1.Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona) 18
2.Diego Forlan (Villarreal) 17
3.Fernando Torres (Atlético Madrid) 15
4.cardo Oliveira (Real Betis) 15
5.Cesar Julio Baptista (FC Sevilla) 14

[Motorolav220]

GK:Buffon

LB:A.Cole
CB:Nesta
CB:Terry
RB:Thuram

LM:C.Ronaldo
CM:Gerrard
CM:Nedved
RM:Duff

CF:Ronaldinho
CF:Adriano WORLD CLASS!!!!!!!!!1 :bang:

[Henkie]

You've got to be kidding, right? All still playing and except for Ronaldinho none of them is truely marvelous. Anyway, I would switch Duff and Cristiano, Duff is a left-footed player who only plays right because of Robben (who is better) and Cristiano plays left because Fergie wants him to replace Giggs in the near future.

[Henkie]

Gk: Schmeichel
Dr:Carlos Alberto
Dl:Ronald Koeman
Dc:Robert Moore
Dc: Franz Beckenbauer
Ml: Bobby Charlton
Mr: Johan Cruijff
Mc: Pele
Mc: Ronaldinho
Fc: Maradonna
Fc: George Best

[Kazimierz]

The Cracovia (http://www.cracovia.krakow.pl/) soccer team, and their fans.

Yes, we may lose, but we will kill you.

Pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0234.JPG), pic (http://www.cracovia.org.pl/galeria/albums/derby04/normal_PICT0068.JPG), pic (http://lksfans.ys.pl/race/czerwone/cracovia_motor_3.jpg)

Just browsing the sports section and felt like quoting myself. Because after all i read, it's still the fans that make the game. And when the fans have 4 hour battles with riot police, you know you've got a kickass division 2 team. :bang:

[el hooligan]

GK: Lev Yashin
D: Paolo Maldini
D: Bobby Moore
D: Franco Baresi
D: Franz Beckenbaer
M: David Beckham (For free kicks)
M: Zinadine Zidane
M: Johan Cruyff
M: Diego Maradona
S: Thierry Henry
S: Pele

[Articles]

98 france team

[cabeson]

No offense, but you must not know shit about soccer. Freddy Adu is a joke. Could be on someone's greatest team 10 years from now, but you can't assume things.

if you where to know that the uefa does not allow any player from outside europe to sign before they ar 18!!!!!!
that`s why adu is still playing in the US

[Henkie]

But that's not up to the UEFA. Only thing that could stop stuff like that is national laws, the only thing the UEFA could do is stop him from playing in the CL. I think the main reason why he's still playing in the US is because experience has thought that you cannot be sure of how a player is going to develop until he's about 17 and even then it's unsure. So teams are waiting for him to grow up, because nobody wants to spend millions on a 15-year old who ends up being a mediocre player.

[Sultan]

LOL. After playing for 10 years and watching alot of soccer in my life, i gotta say some of you hardly know anything about it.

Heres mine anyway, and i think 90% of people her won't know who the heck they are...

------------------------Yashin--------------------------
----------------Moore---Baresi---Maldini----------------
-------------------Beckenbauer ©----------------------
------Garrincha---Di Stefano---Cruyff---Maradona-------
------------------Ardiles-------------------------------
----------------------------------Pele------------------

Does anyone here even recognise these guys?

[James Bond 007]

No bcoz we are all idiots.....

Who is this Maradona guy you speak of? And Pele, what kind of a name is that?

Incase you dont realise Im being sarcastic.

Why dont you flip back a couple of pages and see my team before coming out with daft statements like we wont know who any of these guys are, Im football mad as are most people in England..... You've been into footy for 10 years? Wow, you must be the "Don" of all things football then and my 20 years of watching playing and going to games must realy show bcoz I know nothing about football.

[Sultan]

No bcoz we are all idiots.....

Who is this Maradona guy you speak of? And Pele, what kind of a name is that?

Incase you dont realise Im being sarcastic.

Why dont you flip back a couple of pages and see my team before coming out with daft statements like we wont know who any of these guys are, Im football mad as are most people in England..... You've been into footy for 10 years? Wow, you must be the "Don" of all things football then and my 20 years of watching playing and going to games must realy show bcoz I know nothing about football.

If you look at my post, i said most and 90% of people
Because some, including you, DO have knowledge on football.
The 10 years i meant is playing, followed football ever since i was 8 and right now im 24..

Seen footages and heard stories of the legends from my father and uncles. Footie fanatics.

It's just that some of the guys in this thread put Cristiano ronaldo and Forlan in their teams, which made me...shrug i guess..

:)

[James Bond 007]

If you look at my post, i said most and 90% of people
Because some, including you, DO have knowledge on football.
The 10 years i meant is playing, followed football ever since i was 8 and right now im 24..

Seen footages and heard stories of the legends from my father and uncles. Footie fanatics.

It's just that some of the guys in this thread put Cristiano ronaldo and Forlan in their teams, which made me...shrug i guess..

:)
I apologise (summat I dont do often so make the most of it)
People who put the likes of Cristiano and Beckham in an "ALL TIME" best XI arent even worth replying to bcoz more than likely they are 13 year old girls from Texas.

Where are you from? Is your dad and uncle from europe?

PS Did my team(s) meet with your approval?

[Garysalad]

GK Peter Schmicheal
RD Gary Nev
CD Rio Ferdnand
CD Maldini
LD Roberto Carlos
RM Josh Low
CM Andy Robinson
CM Roberto Martinez
LM Ryan Giggs
F Lee Trundle
F Eric Cantona

SUBS

GK Buffon
D Izzy Irekpen
D Nesta
M Roy Keane
F Richard Copp

[Sultan]

I apologise (summat I dont do often so make the most of it)
People who put the likes of Cristiano and Beckham in an "ALL TIME" best XI arent even worth replying to bcoz more than likely they are 13 year old girls from Texas.

Where are you from? Is your dad and uncle from europe?

PS Did my team(s) meet with your approval?

Yep both my dad and uncle are from Europe. I was born in Amsterdam, in sydney right now which sucks as a football country. I played for Ajax under 17's for 1 season back around 9 years ago.
My mums English and was born in Sheffield, England.

[supermadmarc]

casillas

G.Neville Juanito Nest Henize



Joaquin Lampard Giggs

KaKa


Adriano Henry

[Sultan]

casillas

G.Neville Juanito Nest Henize



Joaquin Lampard Giggs

KaKa


Adriano Henry

All those players play today.
You suck.
This is the all time dream team, not bext XI today.

[Feagolfin]

I think you guys could be forgetting the Hungary team in the 50's. Puskas was an amazing player and could not be left out of any best ever team. Perhaps upront with Van Basten, Pele and Maradonna could slip into midfield easier.

[James Bond 007]

Puskas is a good call, I dont think anyone mentioned him.... Well done you, but I still wouldnt change my team (Page 3 of this thread) which I might add is the best one so far :p

[Feagolfin]

I would have found a space for Bobby Charlton, despite being a Man U fan I would leave Roy Keane out maybe. Johan Cruyff has to be in there too.

[Feagolfin]

GK Schmeichel
LB Carlos Alberto
CB Maldini
CB Beckenbauer
RB Moore
RM Best
CDM B.Charlton
CAM Pele
LM Maradona
ST Van Basten
ST Cruyff

S Banks
S Platini
S Puskas
S Effenberg
S Nesta

[BucsMagicUK]

GK - Dino Zoff

LB - Paolo Maldini
RB - Cafu
CB - Franz Beckenbauer
CB - Franco Baresi

LW - George Best
RW - Johann Cruyff
CM - Diego Maradona
CM - Bobby Charlton

CF - Pele
CF - Eusebio

SUBS...
GK - Lev Yashin
CB - Bobby Moore
CM - Roberto Baggio
CM - Michel Platini
CF - Ronaldo

That my friends, is a team. :bang:

[Feagolfin]

Along with Pires he is the biggest diving (therefore cheating) twat, I found it amazing that Roy keane was asking for someone to make wrist bands for anti diving after they played Arsenal bcoz one of his own players is a diving shit too.
Heres one of the funniest pictures I have ever seen, its Van Horsemouth doing what he does best, conning the ref:

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/3425/cheatingtwat1cm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Im sure you will all agree with me when I say he takes diving to a whole new level, he looks like one of the bad guys on "The A-Team" when a grenade has blown up behind them.

This from the man that thinks Robbie Fowler (coke sniffing chav) is one of the greatest strikers ever!! If you think Fowler is that great than I don't think your opinion on strikers is worth a great deal. Ruud is a class player better than any striker who has worn a liverpool shirt for 10 years or more.

[James Bond 007]

This from the man that thinks Robbie Fowler (coke sniffing chav) is one of the greatest strikers ever!! If you think Fowler is that great than I don't think your opinion on strikers is worth a great deal. Ruud is a class player better than any striker who has worn a liverpool shirt for 10 years or more.
Firstly I never said hes one of the greatest ever strikers, I just said Fowler is the best finisher the Premiership has ever seen, before he got injured he was incredible, since his injury he has never been half the player he was thats why we got rid.... He isnt worth cleaning Rudd's boots now but in 1996 he was awesome and IMO better than Rudd bcoz he had more to his game than just standing in an off side position and then just tapping the ball in from 2 yards. Put me in the United side and tell me to just goal hang and I'll score 20 a season with the quality of the passes Beckham used to deliver, he doesnt look half as good without Becks dropping a 50 yard pass onto his head from 2 yards out.

[BucsMagicUK]

This from the man that thinks Robbie Fowler (coke sniffing chav) is one of the greatest strikers ever!! If you think Fowler is that great than I don't think your opinion on strikers is worth a great deal. Ruud is a class player better than any striker who has worn a liverpool shirt for 10 years or more.
Nope. I disagree. Fowler at his best was clinical and prolific. I would rate him in the top 3 best strikers the Premiership has seen (probably with Shearer and Andy Cole). In a one on one with the the goalkeeper, there is no-one I would want with the ball more than Robbie Fowler. He was never given his best chance with England really.

I agree with you 007 (although I do think you slightly underrate Ruud's finishing abilities. Can't exactly argue with the no goals outside the penalty box though). :(

[James Bond 007]

No you too have misunderstood, I am not slagging off Van Horseface, hes one of the best strikers in europe, his scoring rate for Manure is second to none but all Im sayin is that IMO Fowler at his best was better than Mr Ed, I mean Rudd.

[Sultan]

Flashback.
Fowler's hat trick IN 4 MINUTES...
End of Flashback.

Ahh that moment was so special, even though I hate Robbie.

[Jimothy51]

The all-time best football team is the 85 Bears. They had the best defense of all time and had Walter Payton who is one of the best running backs ever. They annihiliated the Pats in the Super Bowl, and they made the song Super Bowl Shuffle. If by football you mean soccer, i would say Uruguay because it looks like Urgay.

[James Bond 007]

Flashback.
Fowler's hat trick IN 4 MINUTES...
End of Flashback.

Ahh that moment was so special, even though I hate Robbie.
Yeah, against Arsenal of all teams, wouldnt have been quite as impressive against Charlton.

[liquid jesus]

The all-time best football team is the 85 Bears. They had the best defense of all time and had Walter Payton who is one of the best running backs ever. They annihiliated the Pats in the Super Bowl, and they made the song Super Bowl Shuffle. If by football you mean soccer, i would say Uruguay because it looks like Urgay.


ye man that 85 defence fuckin killed people. marshell, singletary, perry,dent,fencik all great players

[Feagolfin]

ye man that 85 defence fuckin killed people. marshell, singletary, perry,dent,fencik all great players

not american football you silly yanks, i hate calling it soccer but that seems to be the only way to stop you posting about crappy, stop-start, too much padding, yankyball.

[Jimothy51]

not american football you silly yanks, i hate calling it soccer but that seems to be the only way to stop you posting about crappy, stop-start, too much padding, yankyball.
Do you happen to like butt-sex. Soccer isn't a sport it is an activity.

[Feagolfin]

Do you happen to like butt-sex. Soccer isn't a sport it is an activity.

At least we don't call the sports we play 'world series' when the only people that play it are American! Over here baseball is called rounders and only girls play it, the only thing we have that is close to American Football is rugby and we play it without helmets and shoulder pads cos we aren't pussy's.

[Henkie]

That's true, Americans are allways talking about American Football being so manly, but they'll only play it if they get enough protection to be seriously sure they won't get hurt. Rugby, on the other hand has hardly any protection an is really though.

Anyway, why would Football (the more popular one) be any less a sport than Baseball ore American Football (which really has hardly anything to do with feet)?

[James Bond 007]

At least we don't call the sports we play 'world series' when the only people that play it are American! Over here baseball is called rounders and only girls play it, the only thing we have that is close to American Football is rugby and we play it without helmets and shoulder pads cos we aren't pussy's.
LO-Fuckin-L!!! Thats so true.

[Pfeife]

At least we don't call the sports we play 'world series' when the only people that play it are American! Over here baseball is called rounders and only girls play it, the only thing we have that is close to American Football is rugby and we play it without helmets and shoulder pads cos we aren't pussy's.

100% agree.

If I want a fast sport with non stop action, speed and technique, i watch Football (soccer). If I want to see a team sport with tough fights, I watch Rugby. There is no reason to watch American Football.

[Fade to Black]

Along with Pires he is the biggest diving (therefore cheating) twat, I found it amazing that Roy keane was asking for someone to make wrist bands for anti diving after they played Arsenal bcoz one of his own players is a diving shit too.
Heres one of the funniest pictures I have ever seen, its Van Horsemouth doing what he does best, conning the ref:

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/3425/cheatingtwat1cm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Im sure you will all agree with me when I say he takes diving to a whole new level, he looks like one of the bad guys on "The A-Team" when a grenade has blown up behind them.

I would like to point out that the fact that i am a Man U fan does not cloud my jdgement at all on this subject :rolleyes:

That was a blatant penalty!! are u blind???? :icon_rofl

that guy in the number 2 shirt should be put into a mortal combat game let alone the reffs book!

Ruud has never ever attempted to con the reff, he is clearly the target that all the ARSEnal and scousers aim to injure* and therefore he has to cope with tackles that are clearly better suited to a rugby pitch.

if it wasnt a foul by the number 2 then its clearly just Ruud showing off his levitation act as befits the kind of christ like player he is! :D


RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD RUUD!!!!

[Fade to Black]

[QUOTE=James Bond 007] "At full back I dont feel Carragher is as effective, When Liverpool were playing with Babbel at RB, Hyypia and Henchoz at CB and Carragher at LB he did seem to make alot more mistakes than he does now, his best position is definatley CB but this is what is so great about Jamie, he is so versatile.
I dont think there is another defender in Europe maybe even the world that can adapt so well no matter where you play him in the back 4 (maybe Maldini)."

what about Phillip "i'll play anywhere guv" Neville???? :icon_rofl

As for my team...
i have only been watching from the 90s onwards so i only know hearsay about those old geezers (therefore i wont put them in my team). My best 11 is...

GK=Canizares
RB=Cafu
LB=pearce (to hold his position and let giggs foreward)
CB=Maldini
CB=Nesta/cannavaro(cant decide)
LM=Giggity giggity giggity giggs
RM=Beckham(with Cafu making overlaps=lethal!)
DMF=Keano(Captain)
AMF=Zidane
F=Batistuta
F=Shearer

Subs
Schmikes
Carragher
Gerrard
Gazza
Ronaldo (thanks 007)

Thought about this team as a squad rather than a team of individual greats. The overlaping fullbacks with slow wingers who can cross the ball like bugary. Two tall strikers who are good in the air. Zidane to work his magic in the middle and distribute possession. and of course the dominant keano to hold the middle of the pitch and win possesion. still not sure about pearce though, i cant think of a better one (not carlos or cole).

i'd love to see how this team would fair in a match against any of the others selected on this thread.

ps. sry bout double post, dont know how to quote twice in one post... :)

[James Bond 007]

That is a good team, a very good team of recent players.
Also Id leave Stuart "Psycho" Pearce in that team, he was great.
Do you realise you have Shearer in your starting 11 and also on the bench???
As much as Id have liked a whole team of Shearers I think there is something moraly wrong with cloning.
Also good choice having Carradona and Stevie G in your team.

[Feagolfin]

hmm, if you have been watching football for the last 10 years or so you must have seen ronaldo play, i'd put him in instead of batistuta. Schmikes in goal waaaaaaay ahead of canizares. Nesta at right back and Canavaro/Maldini middle. I'd also put Effenberg in instead of Keane, I support Man U, but Effenberg is one of the greatest ever IMO. Otherwise great team, perhaps we could have a decades XI, with the greatest sqads from 60's 70's 80's 90's and today, wonder which decade would produce the best team?

[Fade to Black]

yeah, i thought about effen, but i thought the rest of my players were a bit soft. so i wanted a hard bastard to break some bones. he is also the most influencial captain i have ever seen so he would bring the rest of the team up a level.

Ronaldo is a wanderful player, but he isnt as strong as Bati in the air. My teams strategy is based on the arial passes so i wanted a forward with better heading abillity.