Most Overrated/Underrated Bands [Archive]

vasco is go

10-13-2003, 12:42 AM

Hey this is my first post. So I was just wondering what bands everybody thought were overrated or underrated. Try to break modern music away from older stuff from the 70s and 80s.

Well, here's mine:

Classics Overrated:
1. Peter Gabriel - As of yet to encounter anyone here in ATL who thinks he deserves the playtime he gets on Z93
2. Pink Floyd - "Shine on you crazy diamond" is glorious, but just about everything else gets boring after one or two listens
3. Grateful Dead - I thought that after I smoked some weed I would understand. Apparently that failed.
4. Kiss - Never really could get into them, always thought Gene Simmons couldn't sing
5. Aerosmith - Several good songs, but I guess they appeal more to females

Classics Underrated:
1. Deep Purple - Only band I know of that could consistently change their sound and still be good. "Smoke on the Water" "Child in Time" "Hard Road (Wring that Neck)"
2. Humble Pie - Just go and listen to Smokin.' "Sweet Peace and Time" "Thiry Days in the Hole"
3. Kansas - Somewhat fruity yes, but Kerry Livgren plays guitar better than most. "Carry on My Wayward Son" "Dust in the Wind"
4. Blackfoot - Strikes was better than anything Lynyrd SKynyrd ever did. 80's stuff was heavy, but still good. "Train Train" "Road Fever" "Too Hard to Handle"
5. Foghat - Slowride is popular, but give credit to the other albums. "I Just Wanna Make Love to You" "Wide Boy"

Modern Overrated:
1. Korn - Someone told their friend Korn was cool, they told their friends, and their friends told their other friends, etc. Somehow Korn became really popular, but when you compare the music to other bands you find out it really lacks in talent and originality.
2. Tool - Sober. One song. One fuckin song. Somehow they become one of world's most popular bands, even though half the tracks on their CDs aren't actually songs! (Yes you did pay $15 for 6 songs!)
3. Pearl Jam - Very good first album. Proceeded to die quick death afterwards.
4. The Smashing Pumpkins - If only everyone could sing like a rat hit by a car, then I would poke pencils in my ears
5. Slipknot - Repeatedly try and try to find a good song of theirs that can compare to other metal bands. Repeatedly fail. See Korn also.

Modern Underrated:
1. (hed) planet earth - First time you hear it, you're just like how are they not one of the most popular bands. Very good at changing sound. "Serpent Boy" "Blackout' "Killing Time" "Bitches"
2. Sevendust - Amazing that they have not sold more albums, considering Lajon Witherspoon is the best lead singer for any hard rock in the modern era. "Licking Cream" "Angel's Son" "Bitch"
3. Avenged Sevenfold - Very good metal/punkish band on the erge. "Chapter Four" "Eternal Rest"
4. Shinedown - Might pop up big soon. Hard Rock, but not metal at all. "Fly From the Inside"
5. Powerman 5000 - Experienced big fame after TTSR! in 1999, but created best metal album of 21st century and canceled its release. Transform! followed in May 2003, but couldn't compare to Anyone for Doomsday? as record and ticket sales show. "Danger is Go!" "Transform" "The Son of x-51" "20 miles to Texas, 25 to Hell"

Wow, so that was really long. I don't mean to offend anyone, but if you think differently, convince me why I was wrong!

Kanism

10-13-2003, 01:10 AM

although, I disagree with some of your picks...nice first post...well thought out...welcome dude.

SILK

10-13-2003, 02:53 AM

AudioSlave are over rated, they have good music but the singer sings like a bitch, his voice is way too high pitched for a straight man

vasco is go

10-13-2003, 03:08 AM

AudioSlave are over rated, they have good music but the singer sings like a bitch, his voice is way too high pitched for a straight man

Yeah, no kidding. I was a pretty big RATM fan, so I saw Audioslave in concert and they sucked! The music is the same, but Cornell really dulls the intensity of the songs.

Anti-Hero

10-13-2003, 09:17 AM

hey-- just to save you some trouble, use the little "quote" button next to "edit" at the bottom
I think everything on MTV is overrated to some extent.

osama_ben_hur

10-13-2003, 02:00 PM

most underrated:

ween
sleepytime gorilla museum
spiritualized

RaYmOnD

10-13-2003, 02:12 PM

Underated: Tenacious D < should be bigger
The Darkness < Yet to take america, but watch this space :D

droogsteve

10-13-2003, 02:26 PM

Underrated: Classic-Motorhead :Never got the respect that they deserved. Founding fathers of speed metal. Recent- Dropkick Murphys :Totally original mix of punk and traditional Irish music.Overrated Classic- Rolling Stones :Terrible live band, living on old reputation. I defy anyone to even name a song from any one of their last three albums without looking it up. Recent- Linkin Park: Simply awful. Took the rock/rap style of talented original bands like Faith No More and Rage Against the Machine and turned it into the worst kind of commercial bullshit.

vasco is go

10-13-2003, 02:49 PM

Linkin Park is really overrated. I heard that first sing "One Step Closer" and kinda liked it. I had a buncha giftcard money so I bought the album, but it was really terrible. Meteora was even worse.

The Rolling Stones are overrated now, I agree. I can't name a song from one of their last theree albums, or the albums for that matter. They shoulda gone out on top, because they really were one of the best bands in the old days.

Motorhead made a lot of good music, but Lemmy wasn't a very good vocalist, so a lot of their old stuff has been forgotten recently.

Tenacious D is really funny. I don't know if they're underrated though, I think a lot of people know about them.

The other bands I haven't heard of. Gimme some good songs to download or something.

droogsteve

10-13-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by vasco is go
The other bands I haven't heard of. Gimme some good songs to download or something. If you want a good example of a typical Dropkick Murphy song, download "Barroom Hero".

stoner719

10-13-2003, 10:20 PM

Recent- Linkin Park: Simply awful. Took the rock/rap style of talented original bands like Faith No More and Rage Against the Machine and turned it into the worst kind of commercial bullshit.
here here, i also feel the same about limp bizkit (sp?) and some other rage wananbes which i cant think of right now..

any way some good underated artists are:
ben wayne (theres some of his stuff at www.sublimearchive.com)
bargain music
the mad caddies
the ziggens
miles davis
jack johnson -i know hes pretty big, but he doesnt get half the credit he deserves
i love dropkick, ive been listenin for about a year and they never get old
matchbox 20
hillairy duff - need i say more?

overrated:
any of that emo/pop punk crap (i.e. new found glory and gc)
guns 'n' roses (ok i used to be a die hard fan, but it only took a couple of goes with appetite 4 destruction for axl to get to me)
van halen
50 cent -finaly i though there was gonna be a rapper who could back his lyrics up, but i was let down just as easily when i found i couldnt distinguish his beats from that of fat joe and r kelly

KinkyKlown

10-14-2003, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by osama_ben_hur
most underrated:

ween
sleepytime gorilla museum
spiritualized
WEEN....yeah....WEEN!!!
I think one of the most underated bands is Built to Spill...check out the Keep it Like a Secret album, one of the greatest albums ever.

SILK

10-14-2003, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by stoner719
i also feel the same about limp bizkit

Limp Bizkit would be alot better if they ditched Fred Durst

bismarksinker

10-14-2003, 02:54 PM

i have to say, to iwantmattdelong's dismay, that blink 182 is the most over rated band of the 90's.

even though i love korn, because the bassist and drummer are extremely talented, i have to agree that they are over rated. they are not so extremely talented that they deserve as much recognition as they do.

i also have to agree with saying that pink floyd is over rated. i love pink floyd, but most ppl who listen to it then going aroung saying that "yo dog, pink floyd is the bomb" have only really listened to one or two of thier songs, namely "money" and "another brick in the wall" there albums do tend to get a little melancholy after a while, but they still kick ass.

oh and welcome to the forums man, its nice to see someone as musically opinionated as i :)

vasco is go

10-14-2003, 04:09 PM

Yeah blink 182 is pretty over-rated, but in general, I just tried to list like hard rock and metal bands, b/c I really don't like punk/emo at all.

Fred Durst just ruins Limp Bizkit with his little wigga mentality. I know someone who saw LB before they got all big and they said he was a little pussy and scared of the crowd. Now he acts all great, but the lyrics are really gay.

Korn definitely innovated for the first couple of albums, but Jonathan Davis has become very egoistic and the music has suffered I think. But after Follow the Leader , Korn has really gone downhill. I just think that a lot of people liked them, but they didn't find Korn out for themselves. I think a lot of people liked Korn because it was "cool" to like Korn. Not really. A kinda similar thing happened with Slipknot, but not as bad.

H-man

10-14-2003, 04:55 PM

Misfits is the most over rated band of all time.

For under rated I would probably say Adolescents. Not as good as Black Flag but a solid second place, regarding the best LA scene bands that is.

Red300ZX

10-14-2003, 06:17 PM

The most overrated band PERIOD: Creed

droogsteve

10-14-2003, 06:53 PM

I wouldn't call Creed overrated, Red, because nobody takes them seriously to begin with. The only people that like them are little girls, born again Christians and Ypsidian. Vasgo, you're right about Durst. What a pussy. Did anyone hear him on the Stern show crying like a little bitch because Britney dumped him? God, that was funny in a pathetic sort of way.

ypsidan04

10-14-2003, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by vasco is go
Modern Underrated:
1. [B](hed) planet earth
2. Sevendust -
3. Avenged Sevenfold
4. Shinedown
5. Powerman 5000

I'm not surprised those made your underrated list - I've never heard of any of them (not that I'm bashing them, just saying that it figures). And that is a good first post. Droog and Red300ZX - You're not alone. Some guy named Gino Bona, who's column I read for some reason, has ragged on Creed a couple times (he's also ragged on Live and Staind). He was complaining about how more bands are writing songs about their kids, and how Creed started the whole thing with "Arms Wide Open".

Overrated:

Hilary Duff - She looks good, but unlike other people, can't put the voice and the looks together. And all her songs are about flirting and boys and crap. We don't need any more Mandy Moore's and Jessica Simpson's around. (sorry stoner719)
50 Cent
Limp Bizkit

Underrated:
Default - They're not just "Wasting My Time". There's several other good songs to check out. And they sound a lot like Creed, but without the Scott Stapp voice (if you like that semi-hard rock stuff)
Lillix - The only thing they have in common with Tatu is being pretty hot (at least 3 of them, anyway). They play guitars and drums, and write their lyrics. And I've noticed similarities to other well known bands in their music : RHCP, Third Eye Blind, & Barenaked Ladies. I'd almost call them "Third Eye Blind but with younger girls". And look who they credit as influencing them: The Beatles, Weezer, Queen, Lauren Hill, Radiohead, INXS, Lenny Kravitz, Nirvana, Led Zepplin, & Madonna among others. Some famous people in there. Check em out (if not the music, then just them :D )

AssClown

10-14-2003, 09:30 PM

over-rated:
Slipknot- please, the guys ripped off Mushroomhead (contrary to popular belief i've noticed), and Mushroomhead suck even more.
Korn- "the heaviest band on earth" "two awesome guitar players". i just shake my head in disappointment.
Linkin Park-enough said.
Rage Against the Machine- fighting the system through TRL!
CKY-i just can't stand them.

under-rated:
Death-i'm not gona list any other death or extreme metal bands because alot of them weren't very inspirational, or appealing to alot of people, but Death were increadily inspirational. Thousands of bands basically ripped off the music that Chuck Schuldiner created. even the dudes in CKY and Slipknot were influenced by 'em.

vasco is go

10-15-2003, 12:27 AM

I understand what your saying about Rage Against the Machine. It was kinda hypocritical to appear on MTV and stuff, but then again it wasn't like they gotta a lot playtime on MTV or on TRL. They didn't censor their albums and wouldn't send radio edits for stations to play. And most of their videos were satires of American society.

But ultimately, from a musical perspective, Rage Against the Machine was one of the best bands of the 90's. Zack de la Rocha is one of the best songwriters that I know of. Look at Audioslave, same guitarist, bassist, and drummer, but the songs suck b/c they have a different writer and vocalist. And seriously, I do not think that there is a better modern guitarist than Tom Morello. You'd think that sounds were made with computers and turntables, but it all actually came from Morello.

The other Rage did was concentrate on every song on the album. A lot of bands made albums in which the only good songs were the singles. With Rage, every song was good. And they could perform these songs excellently live.

Rage's music was innovative, it was different from all the grunge/depressed popular rock. It was about politics and issues people didn't want to talk about. It made people think about the world, not just sit there and sing along about how their girlfirend left them.

I agree with the rest of your picks though.

vasco is go

10-15-2003, 12:28 AM

Hey Red300ZX

I assume you got a 300ZX from your sn. Tell me more about it! 300s are my favorite car.

AssClown

10-15-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by vasco is go
I understand what your saying about Rage Against the Machine. It was kinda hypocritical to appear on MTV and stuff, but then again it wasn't like they gotta a lot playtime on MTV or on TRL. They didn't censor their albums and wouldn't send radio edits for stations to play. And most of their videos were satires of American society.

But ultimately, from a musical perspective, Rage Against the Machine was one of the best bands of the 90's. Zack de la Rocha is one of the best songwriters that I know of. Look at Audioslave, same guitarist, bassist, and drummer, but the songs suck b/c they have a different writer and vocalist. And seriously, I do not think that there is a better modern guitarist than Tom Morello. You'd think that sounds were made with computers and turntables, but it all actually came from Morello.

The other Rage did was concentrate on every song on the album. A lot of bands made albums in which the only good songs were the singles. With Rage, every song was good. And they could perform these songs excellently live.

Rage's music was innovative, it was different from all the grunge/depressed popular rock. It was about politics and issues people didn't want to talk about. It made people think about the world, not just sit there and sing along about how their girlfirend left them.

I agree with the rest of your picks though.
rage against the machine imo did get alot of MTV and mainstreem radion air time. i can understand the whole fight the system thing, but not by appealing to mainstreem teeny boppers that'll never actually appreciate the message or music.

as far as Morello being the best modern guitarist, i really don't believe that. Jon Donais from Shadows Fall owns him six ways from sunday. Morello uses a wah too much. he doesn't even use it the right way, he just wahs random notes, instead of using it to boost his treble and signal. but him compared to the guys in Korn, he's a god lol.

doors4trips

10-15-2003, 07:35 PM

KORN AND TOOL ARE NOT OVERATED!! Just because you only know one tool song doesn't mean anything. Korn and tool have stayed true to their music unlike those bastards Limp Bizkit and Staind. Korn and Tool are like two of my favorite bands and when I saw you saying they were overrated... blasphemy! I thought you were going to bash Nine inch nails next and then I would have lost it. (Go ahead. Someone will bash em because I said that) Sorry I take my music serious and to hear someone bash those two. (Deep breaths, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8.. better).

Overated: Elvis- He'd sing anything for money.
Anything from Metallica including and after the black album.
Limp Bizkit- Fred Durst would tag his mom's ass for publicity. The first album was good but the rest... craptastic!
Kid Rock- Really sick of hearing about him and Pamela Lee

Underated: Element Eighty- I'm really high up on these guys
Tenacious D- They rocked my socks off. They should be huge!!
Primer 55- Good rap metal and I'm not really into rap metal.
Helmet- I've loved helmet ever since I heard the Betty album.

As for Rage against the machine... they should have been appealing to the teeny boppers. Most of them just blew it off, but a few of them listened. This opened their minds to these concepts before their parents and society tells them what to think.

vasco is go

10-15-2003, 08:53 PM

I know a lot more than one Tool song. The problem is Sober is the only tool song that was ever worthy of the recognition they get. Sober is definitely one of the best songs ever, but nothing else on Undertow was close to it. Crawl Away was pretty much the only other song worthy of being on the album. Prison Sex was exactly what is said, fuckin gay. So was everything else.

Aenima was a thoroughly disappointing followup. Seriously Hooker with Penis and Stinkfist???? Everyone really convinced me they were such good songs, until I listened to the album. The other two albums are tolerable, this one was just plain bad.

Lateralus was an improvement, but still there were only 5 listenable songs on the album (out of 8 actual songs!). Okay maybe I was wrong about the whole one song, b/c Schism and Ticks & Leeches were pretty good songs. But I mean having to wait 4 years for 8 songs, that's ridiculous. I like Tool, I think they have talent, but they definitely have a lot of songwriting issues. Keenan is a great vocalist when the songs are good, like in a Perfect Circle. (aka Corey Taylor, great in Stone Sour, not in Slipknot)

I really liked Korn in Follow the Leader, it was funky, fast, and heavy. But Issues was terrible. I want to kill myself for knowing I bought this album. What happened??? Sometimes change isn't a good thing. The singles were the only ok songs, every thing else on the album was terrible. Untouchables was even a step further down the ladder.

bismarksinker

10-16-2003, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by vasco is go
Korn definitely innovated for the first couple of albums, but Jonathan Davis has become very egoistic and the music has suffered I think. But after Follow the Leader , Korn has really gone downhill. I just think that a lot of people liked them, but they didn't find Korn out for themselves. I think a lot of people liked Korn because it was "cool" to like Korn. Not really. A kinda similar thing happened with Slipknot, but not as bad.

i definatley agree with you there.

i am a strong beleiver in a thing called READING. see most ppl dont really get into music very heavily, to the point at which they subscribe to magazines of their favorite genres. so most ppl heard about slipknot and korn after they got airplay on the radio and mtv.

just a few of the mags i subscribe to

revolver
rolling stone
metal magazine, ( i think thats what its called)
the aquarian
drum!
and modern drummer

IX_of_IX

10-16-2003, 03:40 PM

Underrated 90's: The Toadies

Soon to bust out The Burden Brothers www.burdenbrothers.us

don't confuse the 2, both totally different.

Also underrated: Flogging Molly. just one thing I can't get into their albums, but I love'em LIVE.

chris_78660

10-16-2003, 04:01 PM

the toadies weren't under rated...
they were huge here and the burden brothers will follow.
i got to see the LAST performance from the todies. great show

IX_of_IX

10-16-2003, 04:20 PM

Chris my point is only one song was really played on the radio from rubberneck.... nothing really from Hell below... hell how many times have you heard "who are the Toadies" or "the Toadies broke up?"

.... and the Burden Brothers will rawk my face off Sunday, thank god it's been a year.

Are you registered on the BB Forum?

rangers1690

10-16-2003, 04:53 PM

Damn those TaTu bitches, they were the most overrated russian lesbians ive ever seen.

Timebomb

10-16-2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by droogsteve
Underrated: Classic-Motorhead :Never got the respect that they deserved. Founding fathers of speed metal. Recent- Dropkick Murphys :Totally original mix of punk and traditional Irish music.Overrated Classic- Rolling Stones :Terrible live band, living on old reputation. I defy anyone to even name a song from any one of their last three albums without looking it up. Recent- Linkin Park: Simply awful. Took the rock/rap style of talented original bands like Faith No More and Rage Against the Machine and turned it into the worst kind of commercial bullshit.
True is that! Another underrated band to go along with the Dropkick Murphy's is Flogging Molly. They are one of my favorite bands. They have been around for a while, have a huge fanbase, and yet they are still not given proper credit for their great folk/punk coctail.

oopyman

10-17-2003, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by doors4trips
Tenacious D- They rocked my socks off. They should be huge!!

what are you talking about? everybody knows tenacious D.

chris_78660

10-17-2003, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by IX_of_IX
Chris my point is only one song was really played on the radio from rubberneck....
tyler and possum kindom were and ARE still regulars on the radio station here
Originally posted by IX_of_IX
hell how many times have you heard "who are the Toadies" ?
NEVER....like i said, the toadies were big here. they spent alot of time here and tod still makes frequnt apperances downtown
Originally posted by IX_of_IX
.... and the Burden Brothers will rawk my face off Sunday, thank god it's been a year.
Are you registered on the BB Forum?
i haven't seen them live yet, but "it's a beautiful night" is my song of the year. "your fault" is good as well and i'm sure they will put on a good show, have fun ;)

Karly

10-17-2003, 06:45 PM

Overrated

Good Charlotte - they are sooo not punk
Linkin Park- they are just eh- mediocre
Limp Biscit- ughI cant say enuff of how they bite
Creed-ugh he is such an Eddie Vedder wannabe
& just about everyone else being played on Mtv- its like a haven for shitty music.

Underrated

Rusted Root- have a great sound- jus tnot as poppy I guess as they should be to be mainstream.
White Stripes should be waaaaay huger than what they are now.
soooo many others that actually have an iota of talent to list.

vasco is go

10-17-2003, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by mamichuli

White Stripes should be waaaaay huger than what they are now.

They are huge already man. Here in ATL, they came to play a free concert at Stone Mountain, they had to close the park since like 10,000 people came. I went, of course, only to discover that they are one of the worst bands live (overrated b/c of this????). Don't get me wrong, a lot of the songs sound awesome on the CD, but in concert they can't perform their music. Don't waste money on em.

ypsidan04

10-18-2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by mamichuli
Overrated

Linkin Park- they are just eh- mediocre
Creed-ugh he is such an Eddie Vedder wannabe

Underrated

White Stripes should be waaaaay huger than what they are now.

I agree totally about the White Stripes. They're not bad at all, and they're from the Detroit area.

Cant agree w/the first two *shakes head*

Karly

10-18-2003, 04:36 PM

Y Creed sucks monkey nuts & Linkin park is just mediocre. I am betting you were born in the 80's.

ypsidan04

10-18-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by mamichuli
Y Creed sucks monkey nuts & Linkin park is just mediocre. I am betting you were born in the 80's.

Me? Yeah. '86. I wouldn't buy an album by L.P., but I think they're alright. I will buy probably both the well known albums by Creed. The first one My Own Prison (1997) isn't well known. I hadn't heard of them until Human Clay came out in '99.

AssClown

10-18-2003, 07:31 PM

dudem the White Stripes are fucking horrible they're too big if you ask me. their drummer should be replaced by a drum machine, because a drum amchine would do a whole lot more than she can do. their guitar player is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overrated. that dude got like #17 on Rolling Stone's top 100 guitar player list. he was actually higher on that list than Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads? the dude can't even play a solo. fuck the White Stripes and fuck Rolling Stone.

bismarksinker

10-18-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by AssClown
dudem the White Stripes are fucking horrible they're too big if you ask me. their drummer should be replaced by a drum machine, because a drum amchine would do a whole lot more than she can do. their guitar player is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overrated. that dude got like #17 on Rolling Stone's top 100 guitar player list. he was actually higher on that list than Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads? the dude can't even play a solo. fuck the White Stripes and fuck Rolling Stone.

have to agree with you hear man, for example, in the song "seven nation army" all she does is a 4/4 beat on the bass drum and a few cracks at the symbol every once in a while.

and as for his guitar playing, i dont even bother listening to it anymore. mainly because everytime i do, i keep thinking to myself "how the fuck can rolling stone rate this guy ABOVE randy rhoads on their best guitarists list"

droogsteve

10-18-2003, 10:39 PM

Fuck Rolling Stone, they don't know dick. They gave every single Zeppelin album a bad review when it was released. It's not a music magazine, it a pop-culture and trends magazine.

SJ144

11-13-2003, 03:01 PM

i looked at the top 100 guitarists and your right, that list blows,

These guys suck, they should be further down the list

17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave

Fuck man george harrison is a god, and eddie van halen is fucking close to a god.
These guys should be at least in the top 20

21 George Harrison
70 Eddie Van Halen
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd

vasco is go

11-13-2003, 05:26 PM

When Tony Iommi is number 86, you know that list is junk. I'd put him up in the top 5 along with Ritchie Blackmore.

oopyman

11-13-2003, 07:22 PM

I agree that Iommie and Rhoads should have been way higher up on the list, but at least they got the number 1 guitarist of all time right.

Anti-Hero

11-13-2003, 07:52 PM

Wait a sec, was Frank Zappa on there? he was awesome playing guitar, but everyone doesn't really even consider him, because of what he sings about. it's unfair.

vasco is go

11-13-2003, 11:10 PM

Zappa's 45. Slash shoulda been on there, even though I really dont like Guns'N'Roses. Also, I was disappointed not to see Kerry Livgren from Kansas. Sure they had some fruity music, but seriously the guy could play guitar. Ted Nugent was alos neglected. Rolling Stone has hereby been declared retarded and from here on out no information originating from such an idiotic source can be considered truthful.

AssClown

11-22-2003, 02:54 PM

my biggest beef is that, with all mainstreem magazines, they don't know shit about guitar playing. Yngwie J. Malmsteen should have been on that list, he revolutionized guitar even more than Hendrix did. he was the reason every guitar player from the 80's and on started to practice 'til their fingers bled to try and match his speed, and most of the time they still couldn't. what about Jasson Becker? "Perpetual Burn" is considered one of the greatest shred guitar releases of all time. people at the time were calling him the greatest guitar player ever, and he was 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not even Guitar World is very good at recognizing guitar players.

PurpleToupee

12-17-2003, 05:10 PM

I don't know if anyone here has ever heard of the band but they are very underated: Oingo Boingo. I also think They Might Be Giants are underated.

ypsidan04

12-19-2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by PurpleToupee
I don't know if anyone here has ever heard of the band but they are very underated: Oingo Boingo.

Um, they were in Blender's worst 50 bands of all time. But then again, so was Creed. And then again, they aren't the foremost authority. If you like em, go right ahead.

oopyman

12-19-2003, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by ypsidan04
Um, they were in Blender's worst 50 bands of all time

Big fucking deal. No one cares about that shit Sid.

ypsidan04

12-19-2003, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by ypsidan04
And then again, they aren't the foremost authority. If you like em, go right ahead.

I supported that with the above evidence that it's not that big of a deal. I just remember reading that awhile back.

DeftonesBoy

12-20-2003, 05:53 PM

My friend is really into The white stripes, he always goes on and on about how they are so great and that deftones sucks compared to them... I mean deftones isnt the best band on earth, but they sure kick the shit out of The White stripes on my opinion.

Over-rated

1. Korn
2. Metallica
3. The Who ( uggh)

Under-rated
1. slipknot ( They may suck a bit, but their drummer is
A. the 3 fastest
B. One of the best and on the list with the best)
and some of their songs are kind of cool, disagree if you want, its only my opinion

Wire17

12-20-2003, 06:48 PM

one fo the most overrated ppl out currently is 50 cent. i dont not kno why anyone really likes him. i remember when in da club came out, it was popular for like 3 or 4 weeks, before i finally decided to listen to it. i got bored with it half way throgh. 90% of rappers today sing about thw same old thing, goin to clubs, spendin money and doing ho's. thats about it. very few songs go deeper taht that (i dont even really care if it is "deep" or not, just some difference.)
eminem, i do like, and think he is underappreciated, not underrated. everyone thinkgs brcasue he raps he sux, but i dont like him for rapping. i could give a fuck lees if he raps smoothy of stutters at concerts. i also dont really care bout what he says, how he is bring so much controverys talking about everyone. i really dont care bout that. i like him becasue A) he doesnt talk about the same exact thing over and over, and B) i personally think he is one of the greatest writers out there right now. he can make entire, good sounding songs on the simplest subjects. he can also take jsut bout any two words, no matter how bad they really sound together , and make them rhyme. actaully listen to thw words in one of his songs. first time hearing it, ud proably think everything rhymes, but then when u listen to the words, 99% of them dont rhyme in the imsplest form., but he can still make em sound perfect togfether.
as for linkin park, i dont think they are overrated. over played? hell yea. but not overrated. i think they have the perfect blend of rock/rap.i tried for the longest time to hate them, but i cant listen to one of their songs without getting into, or singing along.

The_Darkness20

12-22-2003, 05:08 PM

Overrated:

Evenesance- One hit wonders.

Limp Bizikit- Minus Fred Durst they would be ok, but with him ugh.

Good Charlotte- Just no.

Simple Plan- Wohoo we're punk....pop punk that is.

Underrated:

The Darkness- Awesome British rock band that have yet to really hit the states.

Afi- Yes, they're well known but they dont get enough creditfor how amazing they are.

Dropkick Murphys- Perfect mix of Irish music and punk rock.

By the way, hi im new here!

brainkandy87

12-22-2003, 07:10 PM

Welcome to the wide world of tasteless humor and jolly teenagers. ;)

ypsidan04

12-22-2003, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by The_Darkness20
Overrated:

Evenesance- One hit wonders.

I'm not going to go there with the spelling, but whether you have been in a cave for the last 9 months or not, they have actually had three singles released. Granted, I've never heard the other 2 on the radio, but I have seen the videos for both. Heck, My Immortal is number 1 on Launchcast right now (Linkin Park is number 4 btw).

droogsteve

12-22-2003, 09:29 PM

New drinking game: Every time Sid mentions Launchcast, do a shot.

Kanism

12-22-2003, 09:39 PM

I'd be drunk by breakfast.

brainkandy87

12-22-2003, 10:26 PM

Beat mah to the Launch insult droog...lemme get my mouthwash cap and we can drink. Drunk by dawn... :p

ypsidan04

12-22-2003, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by droogsteve
New drinking game: Every time Sid mentions Launchcast, do a shot.

Hey, what can I say? It rules. If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have known a whole lot of music that I now like. One CD I have right now, I heard the band for the first time on there. That band can thank Yahoo for adding at least 1 to their album purchase total.

Plus its a great way to learn of new music. Fortune Faded and Can't Stop by RHCP, Meant To Live by Switchfoot, Price To Play by Staind all became known to me thru that - and I would probably never have heard these good songs otherwise. There's too many to list.

brainkandy87

12-22-2003, 10:32 PM

T.A.T.U. is not a band, sid.

I use Launch every now and then, check out news about some different bands, etc. Nothin wrong with it...but it's like a blow up doll...you play with it now and then, just don't whore it out and puncture it. Get it? :)

ypsidan04

12-22-2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by brainkandy87
T.A.T.U. is not a band, sid.

I use Launch every now and then, check out news about some different bands, etc. Nothin wrong with it...but it's like a blow up doll...you play with it now and then, just don't whore it out and puncture it. Get it? :)

First of all:

You're right: Lena Katina and Yulia Volkova is not a band. TATU is a band. - meaning that Troy Maccubin, Sven Martin, and Roman Ratej are included. As well as the song writers. THAT is a band. While the rest aren't good eye candy, and can't sing, they make up for that in instrumental talent, and poetry talent. The girls write poetry too, but for some reason, "It's not for Tatu". But the piano parts of their music are done by them. And one of them even raps in Russian on one of the songs. They can do more than you think.

Secondly:

While it's true that I heard their music for the first time on Lauchcast, what prompted me to check out their music was not Launchcast at all, not even music related.

Thirdly:

I probably listen to Launchcast every other day. Its great if you ask me. You can listen to music from a hundred different CDs - without buying any of them - but without downloading either. And if you play the music videos, you can get free music on demand.

brainkandy87

12-22-2003, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by ypsidan04
what prompted me to check out their music was not Launchcast at all, not even music related.

*rubs chin in intelligent manner*

hmmmm...wonder what that was...

The_Darkness20

12-23-2003, 12:34 AM

I'm not going to go there with the spelling, but whether you have been in a cave for the last 9 months or not, they have actually had three singles released. Granted, I've never heard the other 2 on the radio, but I have seen the videos for both. Heck, My Immortal is number 1 on Launchcast right now (Linkin Park is number 4 btw).

Sid, they really only had one song that was actually tolerable, for a day or two max.. in my opinion that is.

How in the hell can you listen to Tatu???

DeftonesBoy

12-23-2003, 01:29 AM

"HE" can't...She can though....

ypsidan04

12-23-2003, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by The_Darkness20
How in the hell can you listen to Tatu???

How am I supposed to answer that? I just do cause it sounds good.

Goose

12-23-2003, 12:26 PM

overrated= Good Charlotte

They call themselves punk, and the people that have no clue what they are talking about (half of America) listens to them because of it.

Underrated= The Dead Kennedys

One of the origional punk bands from the late 70's into the 80's.
By far the best punk band from my point of view, and yet alot of people don't know them.

droogsteve

12-23-2003, 12:32 PM

Back to the point of the thread, underrated bands. I just got tickets to see my favorite underrated band, Dropkick Murphys, play Roseland here in NYC on Feb. 5.

I suggest that anyone in the NYC area do themselves a favor and go.

They're also playing some other cities. CLICK ON THIS LINK (http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/798903/) for more info.

brainkandy87

12-23-2003, 12:34 PM

I guess I just need to download some of their stuff and check em out...suggestions droog?

droogsteve

12-23-2003, 12:36 PM

"Barroom Hero" and "Devils Brigade" will give you a good idea of their style.

AssClown

12-23-2003, 04:26 PM

What the fuck is Launchcast? Is it like a magazine or something? T.A.T.U. is not a band. The back up musicians are more or less their own band, and just supply the background for the big pop star singers. Besides, those people you mentioned won't stay on for long, pop groups like that go through their instrument section members like Guinness through Droog.

DeftonesBoy

12-23-2003, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by AssClown
What the fuck is Launchcast? Is it like a magazine or something? T.A.T.U. is not a band. The back up musicians are more or less their own band, and just supply the background for the big pop star singers. Besides, those people you mentioned won't stay on for long, pop groups like that go through their instrument section members like Guinness through Droog.

www.launch.yahoo.com

Thats the launchcast site pretty much, its not half bad...

MeteoraHaX0r

12-27-2003, 10:32 PM

Overrated>
Eminem - Raping about your gay mother gets really old.

50 Cent - Please.....

Underrated>

Coldplay - Great music. None of this teenage angst bullshit.

Brand New - Deja Entendu was an awsome cd.

brainkandy87

01-01-2004, 11:45 AM

Since sid relies so much on magazines...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=769&ncid=762&e=7&u=/nm/20040101/music_nm/music_poll_dc

ypsidan04

01-01-2004, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by brainkandy87
Since sid relies so much on magazines...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=769&ncid=762&e=7&u=/nm/20040101/music_nm/music_poll_dc

I've already seen that - Yahoo is my homepage. But what else is new? Its not like that's going to change any of my opinions. I don't get what everyone's problem is.

At least they made one good choice with Limp Bizkit.

Madness

01-10-2004, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by RaYmOnD
Underated: Tenacious D < should be bigger
The Darkness < Yet to take america, but watch this space :D

That's crazy. I was about to say the exact same thing.
What a weird world we live in.

Wire17

01-10-2004, 08:14 PM

metora, eminem is NOT overrated. he has more talent that any rapper currently out there, and more than a lot of other bands. while most bands need smoeone creative to give them some lyrics, eminem does them on his own. look at his CD's, every song on there is written by him. most of them he writes all by himself, but some he does have a couple other people help him with it. i cant recall a single song by him that he did not have some part in writing. he also makes up a lot of his own beats.

as for overrated, good charlotte should have never gotten a single. thatr bull shit song about being unique and independant is just crap. they think that becasue they wear black they are different? they arent, there are millions of others who do the exact same thing, and there have been many songs before theirs about being different. they are nothing special.

RolandOfGilead

01-13-2004, 07:01 AM

My opinion -

Underrated:
Claude Debussey -- pieces like "Claire De Lune" and "La Mar" marked the transition from the classical to the romantic era, shedding the previous era's Fuguesque contrapuntal harmonies and expanding to use dissonance as a thematic medium.
Palestrina -- as far as 15th century Late Middle Ages/Renaissance composition goes, Palestrina marked a revolution, expanding the previous plainchant to include polyphony, sometimes as much as 3 or 4 voices. If it wasn't for him, we probably wouldn't have music as we know it today.

Overrated:
J.S. Bach/Mozart/Beethoven -- The golden three of classical actually weren't very innovative at all. Bach took lessons from Haydn, who more or less introduced the world to the standard "Baroque" style. Mozart's gavant style was individual, but after the 600th piece, very tiring and obviously methodical. Even at the time, Beethoven's works weren't very innovative even at the time. There were much similar yet better ideas floating around in Italy at the same time (Torelli/Corelli).

I must say though...if it wasn't for all these guys, we wouldn't have what we have today...electrically amplified noise hammered out by talentless pretty boys who call themselves musicians. Thank you, Palestrina.

griff

01-13-2004, 10:16 AM

avenged sevenfold needs more cred
but they dont need that MTV bullshit
all MTV is destroys punk bands
and exposes false info about them
fuck MTV and any band that was punk and now is a slave to their corporate masters
ataris for example
oooh look at me i can play some shit that was played 10 years ago were soooo good fuck that shit

Madmartigan

01-13-2004, 11:18 PM

THE MOST OVERRATED BAND EVER IS STAIND.
Actually Coldplay isn't underrated at all and droog, DKM fucking kick ass! I've seen them here atleast 5 times. The most overrated ARTIST, not band, is J-Lo. I hate that bitch with such a passion.

ypsidan04

01-14-2004, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Madmartigan
THE MOST OVERRATED BAND EVER IS STAIND.

Well woopdeedoo! Good explanation you have there!!! I can really understand why you hate them so much. :rolleyes:

But in all seriousness, there aren't many bands who sing about stuff that actually happened in their lives, but Staind is one of them. Really their whole Break the Cycle album is about kids living with inept or abusive parents, because the lead singer had a hard childhood. Evanescence is another one. She wrote the song Hello about her sister who died at a very young age. She wrote Going Under right after she broke up with someone.

*points to avatar again* (they're probably #4 on my list)

oopyman

01-14-2004, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by ypsidan04

But in all seriousness, there aren't many bands who sing about stuff that actually happened in their lives, but Staind is one of them.

LOL! That's pretty ignorant dude. Just about every band out there now sings about how they had such a bad child hood. One reason I dislike Staind is because every single song sounds the same.

S10000

01-14-2004, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by ypsidan04
Evanescence is another one. She wrote the song Hello about her sister who died at a very young age. She wrote Going Under right after she broke up with someone.

How does that make Evanescence special? Listen to almost ANY punk or emo band i assure you they will have numerous songs about breaking up/losing a loved one.

If you cant find one, say so and i will post you a fucking streaming link.

Anti-Hero

01-14-2004, 05:21 PM

Honestly, evey punk band that existed after around 1991 sucks.
why?
wasy too bitchy, boring, droll.
but then again, lots of punk made before that was bitchy, boring, and droll.

S10000

01-14-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Anti-Hero
Honestly, evey punk band that existed after around 1991 sucks.
why?
wasy too bitchy, boring, droll.
but then again, lots of punk made before that was bitchy, boring, and droll.

Cool, thats your opinion. I like punk music and classic rock.

Sid, really, i dont think there is anything special about Evanesance or stained. Iv'e heard their songs, and they are not really good. Plenty of bands sing about the same things.

Madmartigan

01-14-2004, 07:22 PM

werd to oopyman. All of Staind's stuff sounds the same. Atleast Limp Bizkit and Korn try different things.....btw, i love Limp's first cd which is really odd for me b/c my fav. bands are Sigur Ros, Oasis, Coldplay, and Our Lady Peace's old stuff. My fav. artist's are probably Dylan and Vanilla Ice....heh.

Madmartigan

01-14-2004, 07:24 PM

werd to oopyman. All of Staind's stuff sounds the same. Atleast Limp Bizkit and Korn try different things.....btw, i love Limp's first cd which is really odd for me b/c my fav. bands are Sigur Ros, Oasis, Coldplay, Pink Floyd, Zepplin, and Our Lady Peace's old stuff. My fav. artist's are the 2 Bob's, Dylan and Marley.

ypsidan04

01-14-2004, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by S10000
How does that make Evanescence special? Listen to almost ANY punk or emo band i assure you they will have numerous songs about breaking up/losing a loved one.

If you cant find one, say so and i will post you a fucking streaming link.

Maybe it doesn't make them "special", but it beats music that doesn't mean anything at all. Like a lot of rap. All I know is that there is real emotion behind it. But you can't deny that there's a lot of meaningless music out there.
Originally posted by Madmartigan
All of Staind's stuff sounds the same. Atleast Limp Bizkit and Korn try different things.....btw, i love Limp's first cd which is really odd for me b/c my fav. bands are Sigur Ros, Oasis, Coldplay, Pink Floyd, Zepplin, and Our Lady Peace's old stuff. My fav. artist's are the 2 Bob's, Dylan and Marley.

I really dont see what's wrong with bands that sound the same. Each band has their own style, and I don't see why they need to vary it. If you want variation, then listen to some other band (this coming from someone who really has varied music taste). But Evanescence is definitely varied.

Coldplay and Zeppelin are cool in my book.