Cleveland Browns

[runNgun2k6]

Finally the browns hired the right people, Phil Savage is good. The off season is going great so far, but Mangini was a major loss, I didnt really care for the move on Grantham, 6 years of NFL Experience.

Who do we take with the 3rd pick if we dont trade? *Jones, Rolle, Johnson, move down and get Ware, Barrons ?*

Ty Law Are Samari Rolle?

Warren, Green Trade Rumors?

Post some ideas!

[Desolator]

I love Derrick Johnson, check out this highlight video

http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pages/videoclips/2004_05/111104_johnson.html

He's fast and atheltic, he's only weakness seems to be that he can't wrap up all the time. As for Law and Rolle, I think we should make an attempt at one of them, but I doubt we;ll get either of them. What free agent wants to come to Cleveland? Hopefully we can trade Warren and Green in a package together that way we can get an additional 2nd round pick or so, which will be huge for us.

[runNgun2k6]

nice link, johnson looks fast as hell. i really looking forward to seeing what the browns do in fa and if they do anything at all, also if we get anything for warren are green

[runNgun2k6]

I no its better then nothing, but i thought warren was worth more then a 4th round pick, but at least we dont have to deal with his salary next season

[KakUMei]

Hahaha I love how this board is infested with CB fans, Its great. :D

GO BROWNS!

[TheDawgPound72]

Then, we shipped off Warren, released Griffith, and the got one of the better OG's in game in Joe Andruzzi...

[2000 civic si]

Then, we shipped off Warren, released Griffith, and the got one of the better OG's in game in Joe Andruzzi...


WB Dawgpound! Whats the deal with ty law, will he reunite with Crennel?

[TheDawgPound72]

To be honest, I don't think we should go after him. He's aging, and is coming off a very severe injury. Not to mention he hasn't started walking yet, so who knows how long it will take for him to be back. If we can get him at a reasonable rate, then yes I do want him. I think we should focus on a guy like Fred Smoot though...

[atreyu_2020]

Does it really matter? The Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals are all going to compete for that division title, while the Browns will continue to get out of double digit losses. Your additions wont matter none the less.

[Devastation]

How dare you blaspheme!

The Bengals, pffft.

[runNgun2k6]

Andruzzi, is a cheap great addition! Im wishing for kareem mckenzie! Also be nice to sign Pheifer, Brown, and Law for dirt cheap and have them show how to play as team. For the guy saying why does it matter, it dont. Theres talent in cleveland and savage is going to build through the draft. Hes just adding veterans to make the team competitive, we got 2-3 years until we see something. Savage is great, smart and not going to get into free agency like signing Anthony Henry like dallas did.

The Bengals are going anywhere they have some salary cap issues, And there defense sucks.

[runNgun2k6]

From my opinion it looks like we have a chance at signing law, with the chiefs going after rolle, henry to dallas, and the raiders maxd out. Why not bring in ty law, hes a role model and well only be here 1-2 years before he retires. Yet again, cleveland is not trying to win a championship through Free Agency, its going to take some time and we have to patient.

[atreyu_2020]

Andruzzi, is a cheap great addition! Im wishing for kareem mckenzie! Also be nice to sign Pheifer, Brown, and Law for dirt cheap and have them show how to play as team. For the guy saying why does it matter, it dont. Theres talent in cleveland and savage is going to build through the draft. Hes just adding veterans to make the team competitive, we got 2-3 years until we see something. Savage is great, smart and not going to get into free agency like signing Anthony Henry like dallas did.

The Bengals are going anywhere they have some salary cap issues, And there defense sucks.

Salary cap issues? Maybe so, they still have a better offense, and well, defense than the Browns. Maybe you're right, the Bengals wont compete with the Steelers and Ravens for the division title, they'll continue to remain out of double digit losses, just what the Browns are still trying to get out of.

[runNgun2k6]

wow, the browns signed Kyle Richardson... hah

[KakUMei]

wow, the browns signed Kyle Richardson... hah
I heard on the Dawg Talk forums that Savage and Crennel were after Gary Baxter. I also heard that he could be signed as early as tonight.

EDIT: Nm we just signed him! Just saw it on ESPN.

[Devastation]

I'm starting to feel like we might actually contend next season.

Go Browns!

[TheDawgPound72]

ORCHARD PARK, New York (Ticker) - Shopping for a veteran quarterback to back up J.P. Losman, the Buffalo Bills on Friday signed Kelly Holcomb.

Terms were not disclosed.

After releasing Drew Bledsoe for salary cap purposes, Bills coach Mike Mularkey elevated Losman, the team's first-round pick in 2004, to the starting job. But Mularkey also emphasized that he wanted a veteran with starter's experience to serve as the backup.

Holcomb, 31, spent the last four years with the Cleveland Browns and started 12 of 19 games. In one of his two starts last season, Holcomb threw for 413 yards and five touchdowns in a 58-48 win at Cincinnati on November 28.

In 2003, Holcomb beat out Tim Couch, the first overall pick in the 1999 draft, for the starting job in training camp and threw for 1,797 yards and 10 touchdowns in 10 games.

Holcomb is best known for passing for 429 yards in his first playoff start - a 36-33 loss at Pittsburgh in a January 2003 AFC wild card game.

Holcomb spent five years as a backup with Indianapolis before signing with the Browns in 2001.


Where's Dilfer?

And we signed CB Gary Baxter today.

[runNgun2k6]

Gary Baxter, has to be a major upgrade from henry!?

[wils0646]

ORCHARD PARK, New York (Ticker) - Shopping for a veteran quarterback to back up J.P. Losman, the Buffalo Bills on Friday signed Kelly Holcomb.

Terms were not disclosed.

After releasing Drew Bledsoe for salary cap purposes, Bills coach Mike Mularkey elevated Losman, the team's first-round pick in 2004, to the starting job. But Mularkey also emphasized that he wanted a veteran with starter's experience to serve as the backup.

Holcomb, 31, spent the last four years with the Cleveland Browns and started 12 of 19 games. In one of his two starts last season, Holcomb threw for 413 yards and five touchdowns in a 58-48 win at Cincinnati on November 28.

In 2003, Holcomb beat out Tim Couch, the first overall pick in the 1999 draft, for the starting job in training camp and threw for 1,797 yards and 10 touchdowns in 10 games.

Holcomb is best known for passing for 429 yards in his first playoff start - a 36-33 loss at Pittsburgh in a January 2003 AFC wild card game.

Holcomb spent five years as a backup with Indianapolis before signing with the Browns in 2001.


Where's Dilfer?

And we signed CB Gary Baxter today.


Eh, a team needs a QB. They better sign one of the veterans in a hurry or try and draft a QB...but starting a rookie QB isn't a good idea (Roethlesiibijdlfjsdfklj was the exception).

[TheDawgPound72]

Baxter isn't really an upgrade. He is just as good a player as Henry, no better, no worse

[wils0646]

Watch out, Dilfer's (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2006067) going to be traded to the Browns. Man, you guys are so lucky (/sarcasm)...seriously, no offense, but Dilfer?! Hopefully he'll resurrect his career.

[KakUMei]

Watch out, Dilfer's (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2006067) going to be traded to the Browns. Man, you guys are so lucky (/sarcasm)...seriously, no offense, but Dilfer?! Hopefully he'll resurrect his career.

Dilfer will be a Stop-gap solution.

Obviously our offense will focus on the run game and the TE's.

I think he is about on the same level as Holcomb but is WAY better than McCown.

[Pfef63]

Dilfer is a mistake free QB. Let's face it, we won't do too much next season. So he'll be a good guy to fill the gap until a rookie QB is ready for the NFL.

[2000 civic si]

When do you see the Browns actually being a contender for a championship? What QB are you fans wanting to see the Browns acquire weather it be this season or next? How do you think with all these moves theyre making they will do this season? Do you think that Crennel can actually make this team better?

[Pfef63]

When do you see the Browns actually being a contender for a championship?
2007

What QB are you fans wanting to see the Browns acquire weather it be this season or next?
Charlie Frye

How do you think with all these moves theyre making they will do this season?
6-10

Do you think that Crennel can actually make this team better?
Yes

[psheddy]

im looking forword to seeing courtney brown at linebacker... also, though trent dilfer isnt the best, he did win a super bowl... that gives me some hope... although i would rather see us play josh harris

[TheDawgPound72]

Baltimore released Harris, and only carried 2 QBs for an entire season. You know that can't be good...

[atreyu_2020]

Perhaps Dilfer can lead a team to another Superbowl, oh wait, the last time he did, that team actually HAD a defense. Hahahah, you Brownies are hilarious. Getting excited over Trent frigging Dilfer, and you think you guys will CONTEND? With the running game and tight end? Right, and Lee Suggs and Kellon "I'ma fucking Soldier, but wounded in battle is my thing" Winslow is going to lead you somewhere? Keep dreaming Brownies. Maybe if the Browns were in the NFC West, you would probably contend, and place 3rd most likely.

[2000 civic si]

Perhaps Dilfer can lead a team to another Superbowl, oh wait, the last time he did, that team actually HAD a defense. Hahahah, you Brownies are hilarious. Getting excited over Trent frigging Dilfer, and you think you guys will CONTEND? With the running game and tight end? Right, and Lee Suggs and Kellon "I'ma fucking Soldier, but wounded in battle is my thing" Winslow is going to lead you somewhere? Keep dreaming Brownies. Maybe if the Browns were in the NFC West, you would probably contend, and place 3rd most likely.

You never know, the browns could do something this year. Look at Trent Green, when his job was taken over at st. louis by Warner they thought his career was over, then he got a second chance at KC and it seems he's doing a good job, the cheifs just need a D, maybe T. Dilfer will do the same for the browns.

[atreyu_2020]

Right, but Green had a team behind him, offensively that is. Dilfer doesnt have one, nor really a defense in the Browns.

[TheDawgPound72]

Another big Browns addition:

Cleveland Browns: Unrestricted offensive guard Cosey Coleman, a five-year veteran who had played his entire career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, reached a contract agreement with the Browns, ESPN.com has learned.

Coleman becomes the second guard to join the Browns in free agency in less than a week. The team signed former New England starter Joe Andruzzi to a four-year, $9 million contract last week. The refurbishing of the interior of the line is not surprising, given that new Browns general manager Phil Savage recently used the term "dire straits" to refer to the situation.

A former University of Tennessee standout, and a second-round pick in the 2000 draft, Coleman agreed to a two-year contract that, with incentives, can be worth up to $3 million. It includes a signing bonus of $500,000. Coleman, 26, visited with Cleveland officials over the weekend and then met Monday with representatives of the Green Bay Packers.

In five seasons, Coleman started in 63 games and appeared in 71 contests overall. Most of his playing time was at right guard.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2007086

[KakUMei]

Coleman has some character issues, but he was the #2 rated FA gaurd.

[TheDawgPound72]

Perhaps Dilfer can lead a team to another Superbowl, oh wait, the last time he did, that team actually HAD a defense. Hahahah, you Brownies are hilarious. Getting excited over Trent frigging Dilfer, and you think you guys will CONTEND? With the running game and tight end? Right, and Lee Suggs and Kellon "I'ma fucking Soldier, but wounded in battle is my thing" Winslow is going to lead you somewhere? Keep dreaming Brownies. Maybe if the Browns were in the NFC West, you would probably contend, and place 3rd most likely.
Where? Where asshole? SHOW ME WHERE WE GOT ALL EXCITED ABOUT TRENT DILFER COMING TO CLEVELAND ASSHOLE. OH YOU CAN'T?? We said he was a gap filler until we could find our QB for the future you stupid fuck. No one ever said we would contend, you lazy eyed dildo.

[PotIsYourFriend]

CLEVELAND BROWNS :icon_rofl :icon_rofl :icon_rofl :icon_rofl

[TheDawgPound72]

Don't be surprised if the Browns win the division. This is the first time since they came back to Cleveland that we have a solid offensive line. With a set running back in place, that helps them a lot, with William Green and Suggs splitting time, it was confusing for them and made their job a lot harder, because they are two different types of runners, with different ways of blocking for each. Now we also have Kellen Winslow back also. Basically we have two drafts this year, our last years first two rounds plus this years draft. And when we draft DJ with our first pick after switching to a 3-4 our defense will be the best we have had in years.

[roadygiaco]

yeah, what he said

[StanleyJenkins]

If worse comes to worse, we will have the Indians who are favored this year to take the AL Central. Go Tribe!

[thunderraiden]

Finally the browns hired the right people, Phil Savage is good. The off season is going great so far, but Mangini was a major loss, I didnt really care for the move on Grantham, 6 years of NFL Experience.

Who do we take with the 3rd pick if we dont trade? *Jones, Rolle, Johnson, move down and get Ware, Barrons ?*

Ty Law Are Samari Rolle?

Warren, Green Trade Rumors?

Post some ideas!

wtf u mean finnaly they hired the right personnel i thought we came to the conclusion the BROWNS JUST SUCK after Bellioch left and became one of the best coaches ever and the only reason he didnt start his career in cleve... hmmm let me think... the browns fuckin suck? so he couldnt really even do what he wanted.

[TheDawgPound72]

Alright, you obviously don't know shit about sports. First of all, its Belichick. He left Cleveland after they moved to Baltimore in 1995. Cleveland must suck so bad that a 3 time Super Bowl winning DC would come here to coach us. Not to mention some of the players we got, guys like Andruzzi coming from the Pats and Baxter, who's only 26 and willing to play the prime of his career in Cleveland.

It appears that he's a Steeler fan, hence his terrible grammar. If you are a fan of the other 31 teams in the league, this is what he was trying to say:

What do you mean they finally hired the right personel? I thought we came to the conclusion that the Browns suck, esepecially after Belichick left and became one of the best coaches ever. He would have became better quicker, but he started his career in cleveland. I think that means the Browns fucking suck. He couldn't do what he wanted in Cleveland, therefore he didnt have success.

If you could of said that, you might have had a reasonable argument. If you're gonna talk shit, take the time to make it sound right.

[Devastation]

wtf u mean finnaly they hired the right personnel i thought we came to the conclusion the BROWNS JUST SUCK after Bellioch left and became one of the best coaches ever and the only reason he didnt start his career in cleve... hmmm let me think... the browns fuckin suck? so he couldnt really even do what he wanted.
You know how incredibly stupid you sound when you post like that?

It puts you one step higher than an amoeba, an amoeba addicted to heroine.

You're a fucking Steelers fan, aren't you?

[roadygiaco]

I just heard the Brownies are set to get Reuben Draughns from Denver for Ekuban and Mike Myers. I'm not so sure about this. I mean Ebenezer could come in handy with the physical wellness problems we seem to be plagued with. And I don't think starting up another running back controversy is such a good thing either.

[TheDawgPound72]

Ekuban's too small to play in the 3-4, which also makes me wonder why Denver got him, since their switching to the 3-4 too. Myers didn't really play much, so I can't really comment on that. I like the addition of the Droughns though, even if he's a system running back. We need a little Curtis Martin/LaMont Jordan backfield going, and yes, I know Jordan's a Raider now. It also makes William Green expandable, who I still really wouldn't mind hanging on to. I mean, the value won't be much since this is a draft full of RBs, and there's still some good FA pickups available, so we'd probably have to release him.

[KakUMei]

I think this trade is a sign that the signing of Marquis Douglas is immanent.

Lets hope that Droughns was not just a product of Denver's system.

[piggyman18]

I don't think Droughns will be able to do much for the Browns. Any Broncos back can easily get 1000 yards with their outstanding OL.

[KakUMei]

I don't think Droughns will be able to do much for the Browns. Any Broncos back can easily get 1000 yards with their outstanding OL.
Well, to run for 189 yards in a game is impressive no matter what.

Albeit that is a factor, you have to realize that our line should be vert servicable this year.

[TheDawgPound72]

Espn's Len Pasquarelli is reporting on ESPN radio that the Cleveland Browns have come to terms with former Ravens defensive end Marques Douglas. Terms of the deal were not disclosed and the team expects Douglas to be in Berea late thursday to sign a multi year deal.

:bang: :bang:

[KakUMei]

Espn's Len Pasquarelli is reporting on ESPN radio that the Cleveland Browns have come to terms with former Ravens defensive end Marques Douglas. Terms of the deal were not disclosed and the team expects Douglas to be in Berea late thursday to sign a multi year deal.

:bang: :bang:

Yes! Just call me a soothsayer.

[thunderraiden]

no, the browns just suck, sucked when the AFL-NFL merged and for 40 straight years, what makes this year any different. so they get lucky, THE BEST u c from them is a .500. No playoffs this year, no playoffs next year, no playoffs for the NEXT 30 years.

[Devastation]

I knew it, you're a bitter Steelers' fan, aren't you?

[wils0646]

Sorry to bring back an old thread, but the Packers just signed Safety Earl Little, who used to start for the Browns. Was he any good? I see his stats and he seemed like a reasonable starter. He had good years in '01-03. Looks like he underachieved last year. What do you guys think? Was he at least a decent player in Cleveland?

[Nerdcraft]

Yes, he was a decent player...He had a pro-bowl type year 2 years ago...But he isn't a bum, he's nothing special, but no bum.

[TheDawgPound72]

He hyped himself up too much after the Pro Bowl rosters were announced a few years back saying that he should have been on it. To be honest, he shouldn't have. He had a good year, but then he had to act like he was one of the best in the NFL... Last year, Davis benched him, so that's why his numbers are down, but when he played, he played decent. He was cut since he was one of those character issue players. We got Brian Russell from the Vikes after releasing him, so it's all good. Anyone we lost this year, we replaced them with someone just as good or better. We still need some more picks though, especially on Day 1. I'd be happy even if we got a lot of Round 3 picks, since this draft's class doesn't have many great prospects, but there's a lot of good ones.