cop shoots himself

[gordon]

okay... so, um... yeah. it takes one hell of a man to shoot himself in the side and then keep on lecturing. and i'm surprised that all those people didn't freak out when it happened... they must have gone to an inner-city high school.

i wonder if he passed out right after the footage cut off.

[XxMASTARRONxX]

he had a vest on, and that was the "ghettos", where shootings are common, but yea they did act really calm, maybe they were frightened to react.

[scribbles321]

I thought it was hilarious what he said right before he shot himself...idiot :lol:

[Zooch]

After he shot himself, he was like "Yeah it hurts but........ yeah um... eh... Now listen to me though.... listen to me... listen to me" LOL. It was like he got stoned after he shot himself.

[Skiptomylue]

haha yea, but the way the gun was pointed i thought he shot himself in the foot or closer to the leg, not in the side, cuz at first i thought he shot the floor butthen he started limping, becuase the way the gun looks pointed when it goes off... good thing it didnt go off when he pulled the trigger the first time when it was pointed towards the class.. haha

[screamingtoast]

This video demonstrates two things:

First, cops are not somehow magically more qualified to handle firearms than civilians. "I am one of the few people qualified to handle a Glock .40." Bullshit, you're not qualified to handle your dick.

Second, Glocks are fucking awful weapons.

Also, I thought it was extremely funny when he was asking for the rifle to demonstrate how safe it was after shooting himself with the Glock, after accidentally discharging a pistol his assistant wasn't about to let him handle that thing and the class was freaking out.

What an idiot.

[-=IRvO=-]

he should of checked if the guns were loaded before going to demonstrate them to the class.

[blue_alert82]

i can't help thinkin it was a bit of an act to show how dangerous guns are, the guy couldn't have shot himself and been allowed to carry on talking

[Elit3]

yeah he should have made sure it wasent loaded.

[Farts]

That man was a jackass! :)

[A550RGY]

That was one of the most amazing videos I've ever seen... and I've seen a lot of shit in the last 10 years of net surfing.

Although I think staging a "shooting accident" for the class with blanks, in order to instill a fear and respect of guns for the kiddies, would be a clever way of going about it, I'm 100% positive no police department or school would ever allow even blanks to be discharged on school grounds. The only conclusion? This was real. And that's scary.

I'm not sure how badly injured he was -- I thought he got grazed on his hip -- but he definitely seemed one big, tough, dumb dude.

I also loved how when he asked for the rifle his assistant didn't move and a lady went up and grabbed it. It's such a SURREAL moment... because once you shoot yourself in front of the class, isn't the lecture pretty much over at that point? Maybe someone could call 911 if they weren't too busy or something? I dunno. Just me I guess.

[megaman2]

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0,2061,570800,00.html

[PsiRedEye22]

Second, Glocks are fucking awful weapons.



...Since when? Have you seen the stopping power of a Glock .45 automatic pistol? Or is every guy that played Counter-Strike suddenly an expert on handguns? :insane:

[brainkandy87]

This is why black people need to smoke crack. It keeps them on their toes.

[screamingtoast]

...Since when? Have you seen the stopping power of a Glock .45 automatic pistol? Or is every guy that played Counter-Strike suddenly an expert on handguns? :insane:

Actually, I am a gunsmith in training. I have fired, handled, and dissasembled and reassembled just about every modern pistol design. Any .45 pistol has significant stopping power, be it a Glock, a Sig Saurer or a 1911. The problem with Glocks is that they are unsafe and unreliable. That man's pistol discharged when a round was chambered, any pistol that does that is a very poor weapon, and extremely dangerous. Also, Glocks have no safety mechanisms to speak of, the workmanship is far from the best, and they are poorly designed and uncomfortable to shoot. If you want to waste your money on a Glock, be my guest, just please do not carry it loaded in my presence.

[Skiptomylue]

in the article you posted,
" http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news...,570800,00.html " it said he handed a volunteer the gun to make sure it was empty.. i didnt see him hand the gun to anyone.. and i also didnt hear anyone screaming or crying when he shot himself , again that was mentioned in the article... maybe this was a differnt article for a differnt story of stupid cop that shot himself

[rizzleman]

The title of the movie when you download it is DEAclass.wmv
The title of the article was DEA Agent shoots himself...
The article's description of the event seemed close enough to the movie.

[Tokki]

I think he was being sarcastic :rolleyes:

The article was a bit off. The kids started to scream when the riffle comes in not earlier.

[rizzleman]

Oh .

[MartialArtist]

Well he just showed your ass up didn't he? Gunsmith in training would know.

I have to agree with the people who said he should have checked it. He said they were empty, but did he check them himself? It's like Ghost in the training simulation in the matrix. He checks his guns everytime. Niobe asks why, they are always the exact same every every time. He replies. A rock is dropped, it always falls to the floor. But, what if...just one time. It didn't fall to the floor, and it floated to the ceiling instead. You never know. The moral of the story. Check your damn guns no matter what your doing.

[Rocky Bios]

in the article you posted,
" http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news...,570800,00.html " it said he handed a volunteer the gun to make sure it was empty.. i didnt see him hand the gun to anyone.. and i also didnt hear anyone screaming or crying when he shot himself , again that was mentioned in the article... maybe this was a differnt article for a differnt story of stupid cop that shot himself

Maybe they're just trying to cover up the fact that the DEA hired a retard to teach a class of kids about gun safety.

[screamingtoast]

I have to agree with the people who said he should have checked it. He said they were empty, but did he check them himself? It's like Ghost in the training simulation in the matrix. He checks his guns everytime. Niobe asks why, they are always the exact same every every time. He replies. A rock is dropped, it always falls to the floor. But, what if...just one time. It didn't fall to the floor, and it floated to the ceiling instead. You never know. The moral of the story. Check your damn guns no matter what your doing.

EXACTLY! The very first rule of gun safety is to always always always check if a gun is loaded, on a pistol that means removing the magazine, looking at it carefully, and locking open the slide and looking in the chamber. What this guy did is just lock open the slide, he didn't check the magazine and he didn't really look at the chamber, he just sort of held up the gun for his assistant to see. Yep, it's a gun with the slide locked open. Also, he was careless in the way he released the slide, the gun was pointing at his leg, you must always be mindful of where a pistol is pointing when you release the slide, even if you 'know' it is unloaded, because you never know when something like this will happen.

Guns are serious business, they are designed to kill and maim. Safety must always be your no.1 priority whenever handling a firearm. This guy forgot that, he thought that because he was a cop he was magically protected by his training certificates. He got cocky and now he has a bullet wound, extreme embarrassment, and it would not suprise me at all if he had lost his job, I would have fired the dumb sonofabitch. Thank gods that nobody else was hurt, and I'm sure the kids in that class have a greater respect for firearms safety than they would have had if the class went as planned.

[anjroo11688]

I am the only one in this room who has enough training to have one of these guns *gun goes off*

Did anyone else find this part absolutly hilarous?

[Sprite106]

...Since when? Have you seen the stopping power of a Glock .45 automatic pistol? Or is every guy that played Counter-Strike suddenly an expert on handguns? :insane:


Actually, I am a gunsmith in training. I have fired, handled, and dissasembled and reassembled just about every modern pistol design. Any .45 pistol has significant stopping power, be it a Glock, a Sig Saurer or a 1911. The problem with Glocks is that they are unsafe and unreliable. That man's pistol discharged when a round was chambered, any pistol that does that is a very poor weapon, and extremely dangerous. Also, Glocks have no safety mechanisms to speak of, the workmanship is far from the best, and they are poorly designed and uncomfortable to shoot. If you want to waste your money on a Glock, be my guest, just please do not carry it loaded in my presence.LOL, what a reply, the definition of somone getting owned.

[cherwon]

Whoever says that glocks are pathetic needs to think again. Just because the gun sucks dick in counter-strike doesn't mean it sucks in real life and that 1 shot from the gun takes away 2 hp of your life. The stopping power of a glock 18 can penetrate through 3 feet of solid concrete at point blank.

Glocks are safe guns, it's just the way the guy who was holding it in the video had his finger on the trigger, and for the big guy he is, must have accidentally pressed it. The G-Lock mechanism has 3 pins to the trigger so that the gun Will not fire when in safety. So a couple pointers to that officer is to check the gun to see if it's not loaded, even a simple cock-back to the gun wouldve ejected the bullet, and to put it on safety, that's all that would've took to prevent a stupid accident.

[screamingtoast]

I've never even played Counter-Strike, that game has nothing to do with my opinion of Glocks. AND THERE IS NO SAFETY! The only safety is to keep it from going off when dropped, but that isn't much for safety. Also, all modern pistols are designed so that if you have the trigger held when you chamber a round they will not fire, including Glocks. If it wasn't like that the gun would be fully-automatic, as the slide makes the same action whether you pull it back by hand or it is forced back by recoil and gas.

Also, It doesn't matter what gun you fire it from, a .45 has the same power regardless, the same with .40, 9mm, .357 etcetera, the only thing about a gun that can make a bullet more powerful is a longer barrel. I don't care what some ignorant rapper says, Glocks suck. If you want a gun, get a real gun. Get a good 1911, or a Sig Saurer, or if you want a good German gun that puts Glocks to shame, get a Walther, their new P99s are really great guns, well designed and just as powerful as the magic Glocks (that somehow add more gunpowder to the bullets on firing to make the slugs go faster:rolleyes: ) in the same caliber, and it won't accidentally discharge or blow up in your hand.

By the way, now that the Glock fad is passing after a high number of accidental discharges and a few exploding pistols and semi-auto suddenly turning full-auto, police forces acrost the country are phasing out their Glocks, if you have one, I would reccomend trading it in for a real gun while it's still worth the plastic it's made of.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/specialreport/0312/16/a11-7995.htm
http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0,2061,569957,00.html

The only thing this shitty plastic gun has going for it is it's fad status and a whole lot of fanbois who know nothing about firearms except that a bunch of other fanbois like Glocks so they must be the best thing since breech-loaders, but that is starting to fade as more and more accidental discharges and other problems are reported.

[cherwon]

I love how the links you gave was all biased. First link had options to look at your horoscopes and other magical choices for crying out loud, and the anti-violence site.

Please.. the glock is the most reliable and durable gun out today, otherwise it wouldn't of been popular and still be here in business. Two-thirds of the police force in America rely on the Glocks for armament.

"Also, It doesn't matter what gun you fire it from, a .45 has the same power regardless, the same with .40, 9mm, .357 etcetera, the only thing about a gun that can make a bullet more powerful is a longer barrel."

Different calibres have different damage variations. What you're saying is that a .22 has the same power as a .45 magnum?! The .22 rifle has a helluva longer barrel than the .45, so I guess that makes it SUPER powerful than, and since the bullet dimensions are way smaller than that of a .45 that means it can pierce through just about anything.

Another example you might want to hear. If you have 100 people buying a switchblade and 10 people are buying a steaknife, don't you think the number of accidents are going to happen more with the switchblades than the steaknife? ; After all, the glock can be accepted as the most widely used gun in North America.

Also, please keep your 007 James Bond shit guns to yourself and sit down. Sig Sauer and the walther ppk and all that other junk is faded alot more than the glock.

[ribwich]

I'm sure the kids in that class have a greater respect for firearms safety

Too bad that some of them now have less respect for the police/blacks/men/humanity

[screamingtoast]

Different calibres have different damage variations. What you're saying is that a .22 has the same power as a .45 magnum?! The .22 rifle has a helluva longer barrel than the .45, so I guess that makes it SUPER powerful than, and since the bullet dimensions are way smaller than that of a .45 that means it can pierce through just about anything.

No, obviously that isn't what I meant, I meant that the same bullet fired from different guns will, except for accuracy, velocity depending on length of the barrel, and gyroscopic stability based on rifling, will perform the same regardless of make and model. If you put a Winchester .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ round in a 1911 with a three inch barrel, put a Winchester .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ round in a .45 Glock with a three inch barrel, and put a Winchester .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ round in a .45 Sig Saurer with a three inch barrel, then fire them all into ballistic gelatin at the same range, they will all achieve the same penetration. The same goes for any other load, different loads will perform differently, but in different guns with the same barrel length, identical loads will perform identically as far as penetration is concerned.

Also, there is not a single pistol caliber round in the world that can penetrate three feet of concrete, that is just pure bullshit. There are a few very high powered rifle rounds that can do that such as .50 BMG, but nobody makes handguns in those calibers, let alone Glock. If you were to somehow chamber a Glock, or any other pistol for that matter, in .50 BMG (and still fit your hand around the huge handgrip), when you fired it the slide would just smash straight off of the lower reciever, fly through your face, and imbed itself in the concrete wall behind you.

[Jaebo444]

I own a couple of Glocks and think that they are excellent handguns. They are both very accurate and easy to field strip and clean. The safety of the weapons functioning lies, in my opinion, completely on the OWNER!!! Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The only way that anyone will ever convince me that a Glock "accidently misfired" or whatever is if a Glock is sitting on a table and just starts shooting on its on. (Doesn't happen often). I will admit that the "safety" on the Glock models is pretty "anti-safety" in many respects, but it is ultimately up to the owner of the gun to be SAFE and MORE CAREFUL considering the odd safety on the weapon. With respect to the bullets/damage they cause; it does not matter what caliber it is if you are a good shot. Once again, something that depends on the owner of the weapon.

[Skiptomylue]

man, no offence, but im getting tired of reading all these page and a half posts, geeze, the main topic of this was about how dumb the cop was, not on what gun is more powerfull, i dont car what gun is more powerfull, the fact of the matter is ANY gun can kill ANY one, so who cares, besides the point of this thread was the humours in how a Ricky Williams Looking Cop shoots himself in the thigh with his own gun after saying hes the only one trained enough to use it :banghead:

[Jaebo444]

I agree without a doubt that he is an absolute idiot!!! :insane: I thought it was funny how he said somethin like "ill probably never be able to show guns again" right before he asks for an AK47. The guy should definately be limited to a flashlight and a baton.

[screamingtoast]

They are fairly accurate, I'll give them that, but a good 1911 can outshoot a Glock any day, and 1911s are very easy to field strip if you know what you are doing. Also, 1911s in 'cocked and locked' (hammer cocked, thumb safety engaged) are far safer to carry and can be drawn and fired just as quickly with a little practice. I dunno, I guess a lot of people are quite loyal to Glocks, but I just do not think that a gun with such a light trigger pull should not have a safety. Also, I'm not sure what exactly happened mechanically in that video, but it appears that the gun discharged when it was chambered. Even if he had the trigger down when he chambered it, no pistol should do that, and if he didn't have his finger on the trigger it would be even more damning, before I saw that video I thought that Glocks were ok pistols with decent accuracy, the most durable finish in the business (until the P99, which uses the same finish) and ease of use on one hand, but complete lack of any safety mechanisms and (for my hands at least) very uncomfortable shooting on the other hand, but this video puts downright dangerous into the mix. I'm partial to a 1911, they may have been around for almost a century, but I think that they are still the best handguns in the world, the only problem with 1911s is lack of choice in calibers, but .45 ACP suits me just fine, it'll take out even the toughest varmint with one good shot.

[Jaebo444]

I own a model 1911 as well and I agree with you, way better safety! More weight too = less recoil which I like. It looked like he chambered the potential round, then pointed it at the ground, which is when it "misfired". The lady in the back goes and looks at the wall like the bullet went through the wall. Did he even shoot himself? All I know is that he looked stupid doing whatever it was he did.

[cherwon]

screamingtoast- "Guns are serious business, they are designed to kill and maim."

Smart like brick.

[Skiptomylue]

heh, coulda fooled me, i thought guns were ment for cleaning your toilet.. no wonder mine doesnt work well!!! :thud:

[Chromus4444]

me personally i think that it was a blank because it that was a real bullet and he had a bullet proof vest he still would have been hurt because that is a powerfull gun and the vest wouldnt have been much help and also if they did have a gun in school it has to be on safty and they HAVE to check to see if the gun is loaded before they enter the school and before they use the gun for the presentation so i dont think that it was real and also if he did get shot dont you think that he would be is some pain because that gun is powerfull, i may not be "allowed" to shoot thoes types of guns but i know some things about this stuff. if i where him i would stop the lecture and get some medical help. :help: it would have been worse if he shot a student :thud: but it would have been funner in some ways thats all i got to say ...... for now

[Powassan]

Well, I finally registered, been a long time viewer though. I had to register when I was reading this thread. First off, there is no such thing as a Glock 40. The gun was a .40 calibre, which was most likely a Glock 22. Also according to the news, he shot himself in the foot.

Next, as a Glock owner I have to say that any of you saying that Glocks are junk can go to hell. This is one of the most reliable pistols that I own and they are plenty safe in the hands of a capable operator. That cop #1 did not point the muzzle in a safe direction, and #2 had his finger inside the trigger guard, and #3 he did not once examine the chamber. Now I am not saying Glocks are the best, as I do own a Springfield 1911 USGI, but if you think Glocks are not safe or reliable maybe you should not own firearms.

Finally Quote by Screamingtoast "Also, It doesn't matter what gun you fire it from, a .45 has the same power regardless, the same with .40, 9mm, .357 etcetera, the only thing about a gun that can make a bullet more powerful is a longer barrel."

OMFG, Please stop talking now as you clearly know dick all. I am not even going to bother looking up muzzle velocities or energy as I, and pretty much anyone, can tell you that YOU ARE WRONG. A longer barrel increases accuracy, not power. Also regarding your statement that a 1911 has a lack of calibres? God you know nothing. There are 9mm .40, .45 and even the new .50 G.I. Hell I even know someone with a .22 LR conversion kit on a 1911. Also saw you claim that a 1911 will outshoot a Glock anyday. Well, come on down to Powassan, I am a member of our range, and I will line up against you anytime with my Glock and Trijicon Night Sights. You got alot to learn yet boy, so I suggest you get studting.

[something new]

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[Mushy2008]

Was this even confrimed where this was I did not read any of the articles so I do not know.

But did anyone else find it amusing that everyone scremed when he asked for the rifle. I think they thought they were about to be Slaughtered :help:

[screamingtoast]

Actually, Powassan, a longer barrel increases velocity. As long as the slug is in the barrel with the force of the explosion behind it it increases in speed, or velocity, since no object can instantly go from zero to hundreds of fps, or even instantly from zero to one fps, there is a period of acceleration, as long as the expanding gasses of the explosion do not expand beyond the volume of the inside of the chamber and barrel the slug will continue to accelerate, and as soon as it leaves the barrel, as there is no force pushing it, it begins to slow down due to friction. Basic physics.

More velocity equals more power, it also equals more accuracy as an object moving faster has a straighter trajectory. If you do not believe me, I would happily challenge you to a duel, you can have a handfull of .45 slugs to throw at me with your hands and I will shoot one .22 bullet out of a handgun at you. We can compare wounds later. Or, if you are the scientific sort, you could just fire two identical rounds from one short and one long barrel into ballistic gelatin.

Also, watch the video closely, the weapon discharges the instant the slide was released. Even if he had the trigger held down it should not have done that unless it was a full-auto handgun. If it wasn't full-auto, there are only two explanations, either the firing pin was exposed, indicating a very poor and dangerous weapon, or there was a small rock or other solid debris sticking to the primer of the round in the chamber. Yes, he was an idiot, he didn't check the weapon, it was pointed in an unsafe direction and he had an unsafe grip on it, but it shouldn't have discharged as the slide slammed shut.

[Bullzeye9]

Double-action-only (DAO) pistols like the Glock are that way for a reason. Firing of the pistol is 100% operator controlled. There is zero margin for safety failure when dropped or mishandled, simply because there is no external safety. The pistol is constantly decocked, and there is an internal firing-pin block safety that prevents firing while in battery in the case of a firing pin malfunction.

What this all boils down to is: the only thing that will fire a DAO pistol is something positively squeezing the trigger while a round is in the chamber.

Glocks are also very ruggedly built (their polymer frames are actually rated to the SAME set of standards for durability as steel-frame pistols) and second to none in reliability.

As part of my job, I actually got to witness the G17 and 22 being put through a torture-test as part of a effort to promote them to the Army. They both had sand, mud, dirt, dust, and water cycled through their actions and proceeded to fire two full magazines without malfunction. They were repeatedly dropped onto concrete from a height of 15 feet after being subjected to temperatures ranging from 110 to -5 degrees Fahrenheit, and the frames checked under 3x magnification for cracks. None were found on either test model. They were frozen in ice overnight, and immersed in boiling water (sans magazine) for a period of 10 minutes, allowed to return to room temperature, then fired 2 magazines apiece without a jam.

I have nothing but respect for Glocks, DAO pistols, and polymer-frame automatic handguns. If you knew the facts, you would as well. It doesn't hurt that I am a certified civilian gunsmith as well as a graduate of the US Army Advanced Armorer's School. I am currently employed as a Retail Technical Representative for HK-USA out of Sterling, VA.

[jimbo1001]

you guys don't know your weapons. Glocks and Sig Saurs suck. The best ever is the nailgun from Quake and Quake 2. ANd they penetrate armour, too. Duh.

[lhslax11]

[QUOTE=A550RGY], I'm 100% positive no police department or school would ever allow even blanks to be discharged on school grounds. QUOTE]
Sorry to tell you man, im in jrotc and we fire blanks on the school grounds every time we practice for a military funeral, DURING school, so you never know wether it was staged or not

[joeschmo12]

The dude looks like Ricky Williams.

[marcus]

all this talk about guns is making me hungry