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something new
04-08-2005, 09:03 PM
that was one of the coolest things ive seen. gotta love the crazy sea creatures!!! :bang: :bang:

Green_Day
04-09-2005, 02:19 PM
its gotta be fake, but it was pretty cool.

Bonkers
04-09-2005, 02:50 PM
it aint fake theres a number of octopuses etc that can do this...ive even seen it done on black and white titles etc

EGarrett
04-09-2005, 03:11 PM
I don't believe it either.

How would the Octopus camouflage its eye?

Somebody was messing with special effects.

killer scott
04-09-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't believe it either.

How would the Octopus camouflage its eye?

Somebody was messing with special effects.

they have the same stuff in their eyes as the rest of their body. it's not fake. havn't you ever watched the discovery chanel?

DeftonesBoy
04-09-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't believe it either.

How would the Octopus camouflage its eye?

Somebody was messing with special effects.


Actually, i watched that exact footage on animal planet, and it DOES camouflage it's eyes. It changes its color by a chemical in the body that recognizes it's environment after the octopus has felt or made eye contact with the color. It's real.

Dual
04-09-2005, 03:28 PM
I don't believe it either.

How would the Octopus camouflage its eye?

Somebody was messing with special effects.


You guys are seriously deprived. Watch someone else on TV besides fucking Viva La Bam.

Awesome video.

EGarrett
04-09-2005, 04:12 PM
What kind of octopus is it?

autarchicflux
04-09-2005, 06:11 PM
Those who said this video was fake have definitely got to watch more Discovery channel, or perhaps they should have paid more attention in Biology. Either way, I'm dumbfounded that there are so many people who didn't know that Octopi do this.

motocrosser268
04-09-2005, 10:50 PM
yea i saw that video acouple days ago somewhere esle but that was one of the coolest things i have ever seen. it was even better in reverse.

lost in doors
04-09-2005, 11:37 PM
No way that thing is real. Yes, they might be able to change color to blend into their environment, but bending light? The thing had the same texture as the rest of its environment. What? It knows what it will look like from afar? It can understand that some of it is supposed to be the color of the coral while other the color of water? I highly doubt it. I might be wrong, but I'm having problems buying this.

UltimateFIEND78
04-09-2005, 11:37 PM
Haven't you guys ever heard of iguana's? (sp?) Well they're not the only animal that can camaflouge itself. I highly doubt that anyone is good enough at special effects to make it look that real.

Kusanagi
04-10-2005, 02:18 AM
Octopi are one of several creatures that can camoflauge themselves that way.

If you look carefully, the octopus did not change its TEXTURE, it changed it's color to LOOK like it changed it.

I can't believe so many of you think it's fake. I've seen that video on several different Discovery and Animal Planet specials.

Octopi are also extremely smart ceatures. In one of the specials, one learned how to use the roaches it was given as food as bait to catch crabs.

killer scott
04-10-2005, 02:29 AM
Octopi are one of several creatures that can camoflauge themselves that way.

If you look carefully, the octopus did not change its TEXTURE, it changed it's color to LOOK like it changed it.

I can't believe so many of you think it's fake. I've seen that video on several different Discovery and Animal Planet specials.

Octopi are also extremely smart ceatures. In one of the specials, one learned how to use the roaches it was given as food as bait to catch crabs.

Actually I was reading up on this after watching that, and I found that they can change their skin texture to match their surroundings. Because they have niether an innor or outer skeliton. also they can fit all the way through a space the size of a 5 cent piece.

gooachooyumyum
04-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Do some of these people say that every single video on Ebaums world is fake or what?

Why don't you guys do some research online before saying its fake?

Here are some links I found in just a few minutes of using google:

http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Octopusvulgaris.html
http://www.australiancephalopods.com/occy_defense.html
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngkids/0410/octopus34.html
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/canwaters-eauxcan/facts-faits/cat_list_e.asp?Catid=15

Edit: I noticed something else cool about that octopus video. It leaves ink behind as it swims off to try and distract the "predator" who is holding the camera.

thaInfamouzAlx
04-10-2005, 02:57 AM
not everything is fake.. damn what idiots :banghead:

lost in doors
04-10-2005, 05:51 AM
Maybe it's real. I dunno. I just know that, looking at how well it blended into not only the coral but also the background water, it seemed a bit fake. If it's legit, then all apologies for my doubts.

LotsMorePhun
04-10-2005, 06:43 AM
That is some damn tight octopus. Obviously real...

Rotterdam
04-10-2005, 06:54 AM
It's for real, i've seen it with my own eyes in the zoo in Rotterdam and there's another animal who can do the same thing 'the cameleon'.

autarchicflux
04-10-2005, 08:47 AM
Hey idiots, why not try doing some research before you make statements? Octopi DO change their texture AS WELL AS their color.

For your benefit, I've linked this webpage with the word "octopus" and the phrase "it can also change texture" highlighted, for easy location. :)

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:CFnI3sUA-TUJ:www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/Union/Diving/ClubOrganisation/DirectFeed/sp99/oct.htm+Octopus+%22it+can+also+change+texture%22&hl=en

autarchicflux
04-10-2005, 08:58 AM
Also, take this link to the Snopes.com forum, where more knowledgable people were all in agreement that the video was simply capturing common octopus behavior:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/60/t/000859.html#000000


I forgot to mention that I, too, have been known to snorkle from time to time. I live on the East coast of Florida, where we have virtually no octopi, but we do have a close relative, the slightly smaller cuttlefish. I see them often while I'm snorkeling, and they're very adept at taking on the texture and color of sand, seaweed, algae, other fish, and various other things that they may be drifting past at any given time.

One time, a group of them changed to look a grainy reddish color to match a friend's bathing suit. As to the speed of their color transition (and that of the octopus,) both creatures are known to actually change colors so actively and quickly that they actually flash from one color to another continuously, like a sort of "blinking" effect, a strobe flashing back and forth from black to white, green to orange, or some other combination. I've witnessed it in cuttlefish, and seen octopi demonstrate it on television.

Nismo
04-10-2005, 12:12 PM
thats so hard to believe.. it looks like he grew sea weed.. i could see him from the beginning of the video after looking more carefully.. im amazed

GhostDog
04-10-2005, 03:28 PM
ARE YOU SERIOUS? you people actually think this is fake?

screamingtoast
04-10-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm amazed that the "It's fake!"ers can even operate a computer. In fact, I think they're fake. They're probably just a bunch of highly trained baboons in a laboratory somewhere. Next week there will be a video of a guy eating a turkey sandwich and the same buffoons will be here saying "That guy didn't really eat that sandwich. See how he wipes his mouth after every few bites, he's just taking the food out of his mouth and feeding it to a dog under the table."

Seriously people, get a little edjumication. It helps.

jackbond64
04-10-2005, 09:52 PM
OK This could be fake they could put a big tank of water in front of a green screen or just cgi effect it but i doubt it... Who would do that then put it on the net for free :insane:

Chodoboy
04-11-2005, 06:02 AM
It's not fake, ive seen it all before on the Discovery channel AND in a year 12 biology class when we were studying evolution. You would be amaised what some animals can do just because they don't want to get eaten. Also, just because humans cant do something doesn't mean that other animals can't.

rand0m
04-11-2005, 07:11 AM
My dog can do what octupus did plus he fly.

Rotterdam
04-11-2005, 08:12 AM
My dog can do what octupus did plus he fly.
Have you checked it out, there are a lot of things which are unbelieveble for us cause we've never heard of it.

Kave
04-11-2005, 10:37 PM
I have a pet octopus and yes they do change colors.

something new
04-12-2005, 01:03 AM
I have a pet octopus and yes they do change colors.
i dont think the eight dildos you super-glued together really counts as an octopus, but i think you can still call it your pet....

just playing with ya....sorry bout that :D

hnsq
04-15-2005, 09:40 PM
hey, you guys know that everyone who says its fake is either 13 years old or a complete idiot, right? either way, its not really worth the effort to argue...just leave them be in their ignorance.

CaptNKILL
04-16-2005, 01:20 AM
i dont think the eight dildos you super-glued together really counts as an octopus, but i think you can still call it your pet....

just playing with ya....sorry bout that :D
LMFAO :lol:

That was great... I dont know how to give reps yet, but if I figure it out, youre getting one. :D

the_eccentric88
04-16-2005, 01:27 AM
I find creatures like this so fascinating... You find it hard to believe that they are capable of doing amazing things like that, but they actually can. It's awesome.

And anyone who thinks something like this is fake hasn't watched any Discovery Channel.

screamingtoast
04-16-2005, 02:25 AM
Also, just a useless but interesting fact to throw in, octopus are the smartest invertibrates on the planet. They can learn from observation, they learn mazes faster than rats, and they demonstrate very impressive problem solving skills.

Ryan2003
04-17-2005, 01:43 AM
That you are right screaming. Yeah i dont really see as to why people dont believe this. BTW it is not the only video online of an octopus changing colors like that. They are indeed the smartest invertibrate. Lol, everything about the video is real, from the ink it spits out, to the color it changes....

mindgame3713
04-17-2005, 02:08 AM
i jsut got done doing huge unit in science about octpus and squid and thatt is 100% reaL

rangeviper
04-21-2005, 11:32 AM
"The amazing octopus can change color in less than a second. Elastic bags of color, or chromatophores, cover the body of an octopus. They hold yellow, red, orange, blue or black pigments. When the tiny muscles around them contract, the colors show as large spots; when they relax, the colors shrink."
- Monterey Bay Aquarium

Rotterdam
04-21-2005, 11:44 AM
"The amazing octopus can change color in less than a second. Elastic bags of color, or chromatophores, cover the body of an octopus. They hold yellow, red, orange, blue or black pigments. When the tiny muscles around them contract, the colors show as large spots; when they relax, the colors shrink."
- Monterey Bay Aquarium
I should see this Monterey Bay Aquarium once:

Click01 (http://www.californiagolftv.com/VideoAssets/E9_MontereyBayAquarium150k.wmv)

Click02 (http://www.mbayaq.org/video/sea_slug_reproduction320x240.mov)

Very interesting.

rangeviper
04-21-2005, 12:20 PM
And to hopefully end the accusations of this video being false, here is the website it comes from. Along with a ton of other octopus clips.

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/viddb/vidsrch2.cfm

renoB
04-22-2005, 12:51 AM
That was fing crazy, I didn't know what the hell he was heading for, until it changed and jetted off.

xtof
05-10-2005, 05:58 PM
This clip is absolutely real - I happened to be doing the underwater lighting for the documentary that it was featured on - originally for the National Geographic Channel. This took place in Indonesia. I was actually quite surprised to see this clip on ebaums world.

Anyway, it is completely real. Octopus can change color and skin texture in milliseconds, and are even known to mimic certain sea animals. The reason it changed colors so dramatically was because the camera was rushing at it. Its natural response to fear is to enlarge itself and turn white.

Hope this clarifies the debate.

purplegymshoes
05-11-2005, 07:01 AM
WHYY IN THE HELL does everything have to be fake? Its an octopus. Hahaha. Whats fake about that? *sigh*

nematocyzed
05-11-2005, 12:43 PM
PBS (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/octopus/) <--- Link to a show about the octopus (Check out the video on this page: It attacks a shark! pay close attention you will see the octopus change both shape AND color to mach its suroundings.

Octopus video 1 (http://www.mbayaq.org/video/video_popup_octopus_txt.asp) <----- Scientist talks about the octopus' ability to change color

another video (http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/viddb/vidsrch3.cfm?ID=37&CephID=) <---- yet another video of an octopus changing colors. Watch this one, the octopus changes colors from white to black and back again faster than you would think is possible.


anyways, Check the links or not, continue to belive the video on the front page of ebaums is fake... or not.

although, It is my opinion that those of you who disbelive the validity of the octopus video on ebaums are one of the following:

1) Do not have the capacity to enter a set of words into a search engine

2) Too lazy to do anything but say "ITS A FAKE!"

3) Have no genuine understanding of the nature of reality.

BTW, here is the link to the site where this video originated from

NOTICE THE .EDU ADDRESS YOU FRICKING MORONS :banghead:

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/

duel
05-11-2005, 05:40 PM
It's about as fake as your mum you stupid fuckers

WHYY IN THE HELL does everything have to be fake? Its an octopus. Hahaha. Whats fake about that? *sigh*

I think everyone knows it's an octopus, it's the changing colour that everyone is sceptical about :rolleyes:

something new
05-11-2005, 10:10 PM
id like to thank everyone who has added to this thread, but id have to say that it has certainly run its course. the majority of people seem to think that this video is real. so accept the realness of it..... or die like the infedel you are!!!

Lord Ignus
05-11-2005, 10:34 PM
Nobody is disputing the fact that octopi are able to change their colour.

They can form a number of colours, and basic patterns.

But the video on ebaums takes this too far, in my opinion. The octopus in the video emulates exactly the colours, shapes and patterns of the plant it in allegedly resting on, from the particular angle it was allegedly being viewed from.

To clarify... Look along the right-side edge of the plant before the octopus is revealed. There are parts of the plant sticking out, and you can clearly see the sea bed between the parts that are sticking out. These gaps are then revealed to be part of the octopus. (Edit: Screenshot here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/dracarys/octo1.jpg) of what I'm babbling about)

Now, there are seemingly two explanations for this...
Firstly, that the octupus knows exactly which angle it is being viewed from, and to be able to simulate on its skin, what the viewer would see if the octopus were not there. Highly unlikely - what if it's being looked at from 2 different angles?
Secondly, that the octopus has the ability to render parts of itself completely transparent, or to use SMOP (super/magical octopus power) to bend light around itself. Again, highly unlikely - otherwise it would just make itself transparent all the time.

Unless somebody can explain to me HOW the hell this creature is simulating such a precise pattern, I'm declaring this a fake. :)

Unit
05-11-2005, 11:47 PM
As a marine biologist I would like to point out that octopuses are thought to be one of the most intelligent invertebrates and can change the colour and texture of their skin to blend in with rocks, algae, or coral to avoid predators.

Having studied many octopus species in the wild, I am never surprised by the colour and shape change capacities of these animals, and I confirm that the video most certainly depicts a real animal in full camouflage.


I hope this helps. :)

screamingtoast
05-12-2005, 12:35 AM
Holy shit, there are still people who think that this is fake?

I only have one thing to say to them...

I'd like fries with that.

nematocyzed
05-13-2005, 09:02 PM
The people who continue to post messages doubting the authenticity about this video; to say the least trouble me. I feel compelled to fall into a tirade of madness, spewing obscenities and insulting your intelligence, highlighting your ignorance, and mocking your view of the world. You people give me great fear about this nation’s future, although you do show me why the USA is falling behind the rest of the developed world when it comes to math and science. It disgusts me to see that so many of you doubt something as mundane as the capabilities of the octopus, its sad really.

So instead I will say this: Yes, many species of octopus are capable of this kind of behavior, and much more. It is not magic, or special effects, it is nature, normal everyday nature. But don’t take my word for it, I’m just a post-graduate at UO, my field of study is marine biology, or I could be a delusional misfit trying to look like I know something, That’s why I’m going to list some other sources for you.

1)chromatophore response in cephalopods (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=chromatophore+response+in+cephalopods&btnG=Search) <---- it will help you understand how octopus can change their color and shape.

2) PBS show on the octopus (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/octopus/chameleons.html) <--- if ya can't trust PBS, then who can you?

3) a marine biologist's homepage (http://www.susanscott.net/OceanWatch1998/apr27-98.html) <--- hmmm... info from someone who studies these critters.

4).... Here are some other very creditable sources for you, but don't take my word for it.
A) GOOGLE <---- it’s fast, cheap and easy to use.
B) Ask a biologist <----- it could be your teacher, professor, that crazy guy down the street.... Hell, if you think you could handle it try E-MAILING one, its easy, just go to your friendly neighborhood university website and do a little clicking.
C) Go to a library (Gasp!!!!!)

Honestly people, I know that the majority of you are probably too young to have graduated high-school, but that is no excuse for ignorance..... Hell even if you are old enough to of graduated high-school it's no excuse.

You now all have been warned, and have been guided towards some very reputable sources on this subject. Anyone who continues this nonsense of "DOOD ITS A FAKE!!!111!!!" is either mentally ill, should participate in the special Olympics, or needs some remedial training in how to retread tires, or needs a brick smashed into their forehead.

Patrique
10-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Holy shit, there are still people who think that this is fake?

It is fake. Octopuses can surely change their color and some species even can change the texture of their skin to some degree, but not as much as in the video. The maker was playing around with the fact that the quality is rather grainy, masking some editing artfacts. The fake is even more obvious when the octopus suddenly changes color. It doesn't look like that at all when that happens. And as someone else pointed out, an octopus would never be able to make its eyes totally appear as being something else... you would still notice them when looking close.

Nice try though!

Mad Fish
10-24-2006, 06:46 AM
It is fake. Octopuses can surely change their color and some species even can change the texture of their skin to some degree, but not as much as in the video. The maker was playing around with the fact that the quality is rather grainy, masking some editing artfacts. The fake is even more obvious when the octopus suddenly changes color. It doesn't look like that at all when that happens. And as someone else pointed out, an octopus would never be able to make its eyes totally appear as being something else... you would still notice them when looking close.

Nice try though!

Congratulations, you just horribly lost in an argument with somebody who posted well over a year ago. If that doesn't scream "I fail at life", then I don't know what does.
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Powassan
10-24-2006, 10:08 PM
Congratulations, you just horribly lost in an argument with somebody who posted well over a year ago. If that doesn't scream "I fail at life", then I don't know what does.
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Ahahah, burn. I concur, some people are just stupid.

ultranet
10-30-2006, 05:58 AM
this is fantastic:bigwink:

uncle dad
02-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Haven't you guys ever heard of iguana's? (sp?) Well they're not the only animal that can camaflouge itself. I highly doubt that anyone is good enough at special effects to make it look that real.

Iguanas don't change colors. You're thinking of chameleons (and anoles to a lesser extent). I can't think of any other animals that change color. And yeah, there'd be no reason to spend tons of cash on special effects for something that would just be instantly debunked by the science community.

Scrappa
02-18-2007, 03:04 PM
is it a new fad to bring up 2 year old threads?