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Karly
01-15-2004, 12:05 PM
Post what you think of it.


TALKING POINTS: SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL
Sympathy for the devil.... a guy who trafficked in child pornography.

That's the subject of tonight's Talking Points Memo.

In today's New York Times, you will find this article on convicted child pornographer Jose Pabon-Cruz... and a federal judge who feels sorry for him (Note to Bill O'Reilly Premium Members: Go here to send a letter or petition to The New York Times about this issue).

I know it's hard to believe, but here's the deal.

Judge Gerald Lynch, who sits here in Manhattan, apparently objected to a mandatory sentence of ten years that he had to give Pabon-Cruz (a 1996 law stipulates that if you are convicted for trafficking in kiddie porn, you MUST receive a ten year jail sentence).

So I'm sitting here reading this and wondering why ANYBODY would object to giving this guy ten years. Here's what he did:

* Operated a sophisticated image exchange device for three months, during which time he sent over 8,000 pictures of children being abused to almost 3,000 perverts.

* He was 18 years old when caught by the feds, and he was actually luring people to his site by advertising on sites like pre-teen-rape-sex.com.
* His trial lasted less than a week.
* He had no defense other than to say he didn't know he was committing a crime. (I would have tacked on another two years if I were the judge for insulting the intelligence of the court.)

Anyway, The New York Times, which has been railing against mandatory sentencing for years, apparently felt profiling THIS case - and the misguided judge - would help its editorial cause.

YOU make the call.

But let me say this: sexually abusing children is like putting a blowtorch to their skin. It scars them emotionally forever. It can easily ruin a child's life.

Society must - I repeat, must - deter people from exploiting children in this manner by punishing them harshly, in every aspect of this vile business.

Judge Gerald Lynch had to be ordered by a higher federal judge to impose the Congressionally mandated sentence on this pervert, and Judge Lynch actually wanted to tell the jury BEFORE they rendered a verdict that he had objections to the mandatory sentence... in the hope the jury would share his sympathies.

For this, Judge Gerald Lynch needs to resign or be replaced. He is a disgrace to the bench.

As for The New York Times, it is enough to know that the paper continues to impose its editorial view on its news pages.

We are living in a time where a federal judge feels that trafficking in child pornography and selling hard drugs are crimes that deserve sympathy.

Of course these actions destroy lives - everybody knows that - yet some judges press on with their misguided beliefs.

That's why Congress passed mandatory sentencing laws. By the way: Pabon-Cruz got off lightly. The new mandatory sentence for what he did is 15 years - which should depress Judge Lynch and The New York Times even more.

And that's the memo.

SectorNine
01-15-2004, 12:19 PM
That judge feels sorry for the guy?!?!?!?!?! What about the little kids who are damaged for life. Yeah I feel real sorry this guy exploited thousands of children in the most horrible way. Instead of sending him to prison I think we should actually throw a parade in his name. It's not his fault he didn't know it was against the law. What a load of shit. I hope Jose Pabon-Cruz and the judge rot in hell.

brainkandy87
01-15-2004, 12:45 PM
He feels sorry for him?

How about that judge has his child abused and violated over one of those sites and then let's see how sorry he feels for him.

What a jackass.

shade
01-15-2004, 01:30 PM
Did any of you watch it? A guest on the show said he should get probation because he wasnt the one who actually raped the children, he "only" distributed pictures. Oreilly was shocked, and asked point blank: If your 9 year old daughter was raped, and someone took pictures, and someone else put those pictures on the internet, you would just want the last person to go on probation?

The guy said yes. Glad hes not my dad. Oreilly was visibly pissed. You could tell that he was using all his discipline to not jump across the table and punch him.

Karly
01-15-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by shade
Did any of you watch it? A guest on the show said he should get probation because he wasnt the one who actually raped the children, he "only" distributed pictures. Oreilly was shocked, and asked point blank: If your 9 year old daughter was raped, and someone took pictures, and someone else put those pictures on the internet, you would just want the last person to go on probation?

The guy said yes. Glad hes not my dad. Oreilly was visibly pissed. You could tell that he was using all his discipline to not jump across the table and punch him.

That is exactly why I posted this to see if anyone had seen the show the other night. I think it took every iota of Bills self control not to lunge over the table & pummel that guys face in. Probation- for selling pictures of children being molested & even raped! Unfuckinreal what this world has come to.

shade
01-15-2004, 01:49 PM
what this world has come to. Liberalism.

Karly
01-15-2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by shade
Liberalism.

Yeah I thought about that after I made my post actually- I was all muttering "fuckin liberals!!".

Merkulrdanu
01-15-2004, 03:26 PM
im like that a lot, (not child porn, angry at stupid people)
is that the guy who ookayed the suing of gun companies for crimes commited by owners of guns they made?

j.elohim
01-15-2004, 03:44 PM
I'm guessing americans have a different meaning for liberal than the rest of the english speaking world. That kind of view isn't liberal its just fucking stupid. Its not socially or politically liberal is just wrong.

Merkulrdanu
01-15-2004, 03:53 PM
american liberals support
abortion, gays, anti white racism, more government, more crippling the country with uncoditional welfare (it should be a crutch, not a way of life)
they are opposed to
war, guns, hunting, tax cuts, christianity,
those are the major issues, if anone else has any post them

Viet Era Marine
01-15-2004, 05:51 PM
Ten years is nowhere near enough!

Maybe someone will be kind enough to video tape his prison rape sessions & we can all laugh at his sorry ass while he screams for mercy!! (No Bubba, don't use the Anal Lube.)

Hope he comes out with an asshole the size of the Holland Tunnel.

Fossil
01-15-2004, 06:06 PM
Yeah I thought about that after I made my post actually- I was all muttering "fuckin liberals!!".

Now maybe they'll go after the conservatives who actually buy the pictures up :)

stevib
01-15-2004, 06:42 PM
I can only feel sympathy for the warped, damaged minds these people have that probably cannot for fixed. It should be punished to the max , anyways.

shade
01-16-2004, 12:55 AM
That kind of view isn't liberal its just fucking stupid. The porn is not the liberal part. The liberal part is feeling sorry for the person. The thought that "well, maybe he just has issues and should see a doctor." Or "he was just being naive, and didnt realise the full implications of his actions." So "I feel sorry for him because he has to go to jail for so long for one mistake." That is the liberal part, trying to relate to and/or tolerate.

Nocturnal
01-16-2004, 01:47 AM
Sympathy was obviously not the appropriate emotion or comment. I could see the judge being pissed at being required to give a certain sentence. But not sympathy for that particular individual.

Originally posted by Merkulrdanu
american liberals support
abortion, gays, anti white racism, more government, more crippling the country with uncoditional welfare (it should be a crutch, not a way of life)
they are opposed to
war, guns, hunting, tax cuts, christianity,
those are the major issues, if anone else has any post them

:rolleyes:

Merkulrdanu
01-16-2004, 03:55 PM
im not quite understanding the face,

j.elohim
01-16-2004, 04:14 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, i still stand by my original statement though. Its obvious what being a liberal stands for in your country is the same as being an utter twat in mine!

Karly
01-16-2004, 04:15 PM
you said TWAT! hahahhaa- I may be silly but that made me chuckle.

Merkulrdanu
01-16-2004, 04:16 PM
twat, thats cool, whats a liberal there