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sparrky
07-17-2005, 03:28 AM
i couldn't choose between myung and claypool.

MoDilly
07-17-2005, 03:58 AM
I voted other. Jaco Pastorius is my boy. :D

bowarraarr
07-17-2005, 05:17 AM
Les claypool nigguz

Canty
07-17-2005, 05:58 AM
Steve Harris.

fadetoblack5297
07-17-2005, 08:50 AM
I went with Claypool but my favorites are Guy Pratt, Tom Fowler and Roger Waters.

Blue Lightening
07-17-2005, 10:54 AM
Steve Harris.

im maiden fan but come on!! steve harris is miles away from anyone like claypool.

my pick would be billy shean(sp)

The Borg
07-17-2005, 12:45 PM
Paul McCartney can play the socks off any of them

MiKe
07-17-2005, 01:36 PM
I take it you guys don't know who Tony Levin is. Too bad. He's fuckin awesome. And the fact that Claypool is in the lead tells me that most of you don't know shit about bass. (please don't attack me for that last comment, I'm a huge Claypool fan and I've seen him live 4 times with 2 bands. It's just the truth, most people give him more credit then he deserves because they don't know shit about bass. He's a great player, but there are tons better then him) Nonetheless, this poll has to go to Jaco, so I put other.

Mount_Happy
07-17-2005, 01:42 PM
Paul McCartney can play the socks off any of them
haha, is that sarcasm? because if it is its brilliant. Paul is a great songwriter, but as far as a bass player, hed never live up to the likes of Les Claypool, Jaco Pastorious, Flea, Billy Sheehan, and others that have the likes of them.

Metallic
07-17-2005, 02:10 PM
I voted for Claypool, but Wooten was a really close second.

BassPlayinToker
07-17-2005, 06:06 PM
i picked john paul jones, not because he is the best bassist, but because i like the music he plays

Lowgear
07-17-2005, 06:32 PM
Magnus Rosén

Ziggyfeed
07-17-2005, 06:53 PM
Flea owns your god damn soul.

MiKe
07-17-2005, 07:43 PM
Flea owns your god damn soul.

Flea is a great bass player but definately over-rated. Plus he doesn't know shit about music. He said it himself on his instructional DVD, he can't read or write music and doesn't know jack about theory, which is fine because he has the natural-born talent to back it up. But as a musician, he's not so impressive. There are much better bassists (especially in the realm of slap) then Flea. But he still kicks ass.

temp100
07-17-2005, 09:20 PM
im maiden fan but come on!! steve harris is miles away from anyone like claypool.

my pick would be billy shean(sp)
Not really. Claypool is good in ways, so is Harris. What you have to remember is Claypool isn't restricted in his playing because he IS the band. Yes, Larry La Londe and co are awesome, but I'm not going to pretend that Primus and Colonel Claypool... aren't bass dominated. It is much harder to interweave bass and guitar equally like Steve Harris and Flea. You realise he didn't write The Awakening right? Claypool is also really sloppy. Harris does more with two fingers than what many bassists do with four or five and is regarded as the greatest metal bassist ever. He has really good tone as well. He plays as big a part as Maiden's 3 guitarists and wrote most of their songs. Without him there would be no Maiden. Nevertheless, don't get me wrong. I love Claypool and he's one of my fav bassists.

As for the thing on Flea. I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking of him as their fav. bassist. He simply writes some of the best sounding basslines. Not necessarily the most technical etc. Just what we like to hear. His skill in writing basslines makes music theory useless to him anyway. I've looked at a lot of other slap bassists and haven't been impressed me because they may be able to play twice as fast, but it simply isn't creative. It depends what talent as a musician is. I've heard that he is a borderline trumpet virtuoso, so if musician means playing several instruments then he is good in that respect. I believe you that he said that stuff on the DVD, but I'm pretty sure he said that he carried on his trumpet theory to the bass. I'm not terribly sure though.

Geddy Lee and Pastorius should have been on there. Isn't Tony Levin a death metal bassist?

Pat The Baker
07-17-2005, 09:34 PM
JPJ owns them all, kicks ass on the keys too.

rerat
07-17-2005, 09:40 PM
Well, no option for it, but Cliff Burton will always be my favourite bassist.

/Tilt/
07-17-2005, 09:47 PM
Whoever plays bass for Rancid is incredible. Listen to "Blacklisted"

Of course, the best bassist ever is John "The Ox" Entwistle.

Blue Lightening
07-17-2005, 10:06 PM
Not really. Claypool is good in ways, so is Harris. What you have to remember is Claypool isn't restricted in his playing because he IS the band. Yes, Larry La Londe and co are awesome, but I'm not going to pretend that Primus and Colonel Claypool... aren't bass dominated. It is much harder to interweave bass and guitar equally like Steve Harris and Flea. You realise he didn't write The Awakening right? Claypool is also really sloppy. Harris does more with two fingers than what many bassists do with four or five and is regarded as the greatest metal bassist ever. He has really good tone as well. He plays as big a part as Maiden's 3 guitarists and wrote most of their songs. Without him there would be no Maiden. Nevertheless, don't get me wrong. I love Claypool and he's one of my fav bassists.

As for the thing on Flea. I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking of him as their fav. bassist. He simply writes some of the best sounding basslines. Not necessarily the most technical etc. Just what we like to hear. His skill in writing basslines makes music theory useless to him anyway. I've looked at a lot of other slap bassists and haven't been impressed me because they may be able to play twice as fast, but it simply isn't creative. It depends what talent as a musician is. I've heard that he is a borderline trumpet virtuoso, so if musician means playing several instruments then he is good in that respect. I believe you that he said that stuff on the DVD, but I'm pretty sure he said that he carried on his trumpet theory to the bass. I'm not terribly sure though.

Geddy Lee and Pastorius should have been on there. Isn't Tony Levin a death metal bassist?

yeah, your pretty much right about steve harris.

One other thing about flea is his attitude, he just sums up bass the world over. His passion for the bass and his dedication to the music is hard to beat by any member of any band bass player or not. I heard he played a tour where he had to put wall filler into his finger tips because he had played so hard that he had massive holes in his fingers...he filled em up and carried on playing. He just looks so perfect when he plays as well.

If i had to create a perfect bassist from parts of old bassists. i would make him with the soul and body of flea, but with the technical ability of someone like claypool.

"And the fact that Claypool is in the lead tells me that most of you don't know shit about bass. (please don't attack me for that last comment, I'm a huge Claypool fan and I've seen him live 4 times with 2 bands. It's just the truth, most people give him more credit then he deserves because they don't know shit about bass. He's a great player, but there are tons better then him) Nonetheless, this poll has to go to Jaco, so I put other."

Claypool and billy sheehan are the best bassist i know...who are these "tons" of better players than them? i am realy interested to broaden my horisens as im pretty sheltered to the world of bass. Name bands rather than just the names so i can find and listen to thier work.

thanks.

menes40
07-17-2005, 11:36 PM
Flea is a great bass player but definately over-rated.
are you serious? the guy is almost fourty if not fourty, and still pulls of the craziest slap songs! god damn... you dont need to kno music to be a great musician...thats like saying you have to be strong to play football... flea kicks ass and rules slap :bang:

creator
07-17-2005, 11:37 PM
omg have you idiots even heard of vic wooten...loosers..,flea won this poll???lol listen to wooten and tell me lea has a chance of playing like that.

MiKe
07-18-2005, 12:55 AM
Geddy Lee and Pastorius should have been on there. Isn't Tony Levin a death metal bassist?

I definately agree about Jaco and Geddy, both are awesome. But Tony Levin is definately not a deathmetal bassist. He's a boarderline virtuoso, he's played with King Crimson, Terry Bozio and Steve Sevens (look for their album, it's title is the last names of the 3 members and it's awesome), also Bill Bruford (SICK Drummer), John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater did a side project called "Liquid Tension Experiment" with Levin too. He's a sick bassist and most of the time plays this instrument--->www.chapmanstick.com<---It's like a bass, but usually has 7-12 strings and is played almost exclusively with tapping.

Blue Lightning--->Here's some awesome bassists to check out.
PS--To anyone who might be interested in this stuff, be aware that everyone I listed below except Tony Levin plays Jazz. Even though this is some spectacular music it took me a while to realize it. I hope that you won't be turned off from these guys just because you don't like Jazz now. Give it a chance.
1. Stanley Clarke for some awesome slap. The thing is, most people nowadays get obsessed with over-the-top show offs like Wooten. Trust me, I know he's an amazing bassist and worth checkin out if you don't know who he is, but it's too much flash. Just my opinion. Stanley Clarke could use the slap technique for really sweet, mellow grooves that just ooooze funk. On a side-note, Primus did a cover of Stanley Clarke's song "Silly Putty". Les played it pretty damn good too.
2. Tony Levin. Look for the band "Liquid Tension Experiment" or "Bozio, Levin, Stevens". Either of them had amazing stuff. LTE was 2 or 3 members of Dream Theater and played similar music to Dream Theater, but all instrumental. Very kick-ass stuff.
3. Michael Manring. He did a bunch of stuff under his own name, so just search for Michael Manring. Amazing slap and amazing non-slap. All around great.
4. Brian Bromberg, amazing. One of the best slap players I've ever heard, plus one of the greatest upright bassists in the world. I'm not totally sure about bands he's been in, but I'm sure you'll find something with a search for his name.
5. Finally, the godfather of ALL bass players, the man who started it all: Jaco. Jaco Pastorius was the FIRST person to make the bass a real solo instrument. Without him, Claypool, Wooten, Flea, anyone, they probably wouldn't be what they are. He pioneered the instrument and changed the way people played the bass forever. Before him, bass was basically just very simple stuff, walking basslines at the most, especially in Jazz. He was ridiculously fast and could play literally anything on a fretless bass. He was also a genious when it came to composition. He was in a Jazz band named "Weather Report" and did a couple years with them. He also released 2 solo albums under his own name, plus countless guest spots on albums with just about every major name in Jazz from '74 to '86. Do a quick google search for a discography and you'll find tons of stuff, but if you just want the crazy bass playing, look in the "Best Bass Solo" thread here on ebaums. I gave a nice list of his best stuff, I think it's on page 3 of the thread. If you download you can probably get any of it. If you only look for one of these bassists, make it this guy. He was a god on the bass.

Travek14537
07-18-2005, 01:38 AM
Where's Cronos?

killer scott
07-18-2005, 01:56 AM
The thing is, most people nowadays get obsessed with over-the-top show offs like Wooten. Trust me, I know he's an amazing bassist and worth checkin out if you don't know who he is, but it's too much flash. Just my opinion. Stanley Clarke could use the slap technique for really sweet, mellow grooves that just ooooze funk. On a side-note, Primus did a cover of Stanley Clarke's song "Silly Putty". Les played it pretty damn good too.



The comments about Victor being overly flashy make me wonder if you've viewed any of his videos. Yes the man is flashy but he preaches that you have to have the groove. He explained it like cake. the crazy techniques are the icing but you gotta have the base of the cake(the bassic groove) too much icing makes you sick! anyways most of Victors songs have him playing alone where he has the freedom to go wild but if you hear him play with his band or the Flecktones he just thumps it, and he knows when to be mellow and how to add to the music not take away. hes a good man. For me its a tight race between him and Les Claypool Just because of the creativity and ive seen them both live, but in the end Victor wins it out because he just knows more about music theory and he's a better bassist.

MoDilly
07-18-2005, 02:21 AM
5. Finally, the godfather of ALL bass players, the man who started it all: Jaco. Jaco Pastorius was the FIRST person to make the bass a real solo instrument. Without him, Claypool, Wooten, Flea, anyone, they probably wouldn't be what they are. He pioneered the instrument and changed the way people played the bass forever. Before him, bass was basically just very simple stuff, walking basslines at the most, especially in Jazz. He was ridiculously fast and could play literally anything on a fretless bass. He was also a genious when it came to composition. He was in a Jazz band named "Weather Report" and did a couple years with them. He also released 2 solo albums under his own name, plus countless guest spots on albums with just about every major name in Jazz from '74 to '86. Do a quick google search for a discography and you'll find tons of stuff, but if you just want the crazy bass playing, look in the "Best Bass Solo" thread here on ebaums. I gave a nice list of his best stuff, I think it's on page 3 of the thread. If you download you can probably get any of it. If you only look for one of these bassists, make it this guy. He was a god on the bass.
I would have had Jaco's babies. Too bad he died at a young age just like every other great musician. :(

MiKe
07-18-2005, 02:31 AM
The comments about Victor being overly flashy make me wonder if you've viewed any of his videos. Yes the man is flashy but he preaches that you have to have the groove. He explained it like cake. the crazy techniques are the icing but you gotta have the base of the cake(the bassic groove) too much icing makes you sick! anyways most of Victors songs have him playing alone where he has the freedom to go wild but if you hear him play with his band or the Flecktones he just thumps it, and he knows when to be mellow and how to add to the music not take away. hes a good man. For me its a tight race between him and Les Claypool Just because of the creativity and ive seen them both live, but in the end Victor wins it out because he just knows more about music theory and he's a better bassist.

I have the DVD of Victor playing at BassDay '98 and the DVD for the Flecktones Live at The Quik. Both are awesome and I know Wooten can just groove and play mellow shit when he wants to, but I was mostly talking about his solos: They all sound pretty much the same cause he always uses the same tricks. But still, I know damn-well that he's a sick bassist.

temp100
07-18-2005, 10:37 AM
omg have you idiots even heard of vic wooten...loosers..,flea won this poll???lol listen to wooten and tell me lea has a chance of playing like that.
Piss off. Get out of the thread. By chance, all the forums that I frequently visit have held bass threads and polls recently. I practically copy & paste entries to get rid of idiots like you. I haven't had any disagreement so far.
Haven't you ever considered the fact that Classical Thump sounds like a PIECE OF SHIT. Oh hell yes, it is fucking technical. Wooten isn't anywhere near as fret wanking as many other technical bassists. Have you ever thought that people actually want to listen to a CREATIVE bassline. Don't get me wrong, I used to idolise Wooten and Classical Thump and can appreciate his technical ability. But sorry, creativity is important in a bassist too (creativity encompassing songwriting ability).
Flea might be able to play as technically as Wooten. We would never know, because Flea priorities creativity. Anyone can lock themselves in a dark room and practise 12 hours a day until they are technical. But creativity (songwriting ability) isn't like that.
I wouldn't admonish someone for voting Wooten. He does have reasonable creativity. But it's idiots like you who come on forums thinking you're intellectually superior to others that pisses me off. Learn something.

JarOfFlies
07-18-2005, 10:50 AM
i couldn't choose between myung and claypool.

Duff McKagan dude.

fadetoblack5297
07-18-2005, 02:11 PM
Stu Hamm isn't all that great, in my opinion. I would have put Geddy Lee in place of him because, as we all know, Geddy is one of the greatest bassists ever. There's no denying it, even if you don't like Rush. The man is amazing.

FTB

creator
07-18-2005, 03:50 PM
Piss off. Get out of the thread. By chance, all the forums that I frequently visit have held bass threads and polls recently. I practically copy & paste entries to get rid of idiots like you. I haven't had any disagreement so far.
Haven't you ever considered the fact that Classical Thump sounds like a PIECE OF SHIT. Oh hell yes, it is fucking technical. Wooten isn't anywhere near as fret wanking as many other technical bassists. Have you ever thought that people actually want to listen to a CREATIVE bassline. Don't get me wrong, I used to idolise Wooten and Classical Thump and can appreciate his technical ability. But sorry, creativity is important in a bassist too (creativity encompassing songwriting ability).
Flea might be able to play as technically as Wooten. We would never know, because Flea priorities creativity. Anyone can lock themselves in a dark room and practise 12 hours a day until they are technical. But creativity (songwriting ability) isn't like that.
I wouldn't admonish someone for voting Wooten. He does have reasonable creativity. But it's idiots like you who come on forums thinking you're intellectually superior to others that pisses me off. Learn something.


omg dude, your so fuking stupid arent you..Classical thump sounds like a piece of shit..lol Ok your fucking retarded..Listen to norwiegan(sp?) wood

here..Now who's the best..Oh and woops, im sure he wasnt being creative the day he composed it on bass..

http://rapidshare.de/files/3160715/victor_wooten_-_a_show_of_hands_-_16_-_bonus_track_norwegian_wood.mp3.html

UltimateFIEND78
07-18-2005, 04:02 PM
I had to go with John Myung, my favorite bassist, for my favorite band.

Avo
07-18-2005, 04:12 PM
I take it you guys don't know who Tony Levin is. Too bad. He's fuckin awesome. And the fact that Claypool is in the lead tells me that most of you don't know shit about bass. (please don't attack me for that last comment, I'm a huge Claypool fan and I've seen him live 4 times with 2 bands. It's just the truth, most people give him more credit then he deserves because they don't know shit about bass. He's a great player, but there are tons better then him) Nonetheless, this poll has to go to Jaco, so I put other.

Agreed, Tony Levin is wayy before Les Claypool. I mean dont get me wrong, Claypool rocks my socks, but Tony Levin has some serious fucking skill. Tony Levin all the fucking way. All of you are fucking idiots, go hear some Levin. If anyone is intrested in hearing some of his stuff, just buy the album "Indisipline" from King Crimson, you can hear a whole lot of technical bass playing.

killer scott
07-18-2005, 04:21 PM
the bass day 98 dvd is awesome

sparrky
07-18-2005, 04:44 PM
i'm very dissapointed tony levin and danny partridge are doing so poorly

Avo
07-18-2005, 04:48 PM
i'm very dissapointed tony levin and danny partridge are doing so poorly

yeah so am I, even Tony Levin is in dam italics tags, Come one people its a dam sign.

MrHappyPants
07-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Primus is the shit.

Avo
07-18-2005, 05:14 PM
Primus is the shit.

Hear some Tony Levin, then you know where Claypool got his influence. Seriously, go hear some levin.

heaven's satan
07-18-2005, 05:35 PM
my favorite's John Entwistle, but i was also thinking of voting JPJ.

MiKe
07-18-2005, 06:54 PM
Hear some Tony Levin, then you know where Claypool got his influence. Seriously, go hear some levin.


Tony Levin is fuckin awesome, but Claypool was way more influenced by Geddy Lee. I saw him talk about Geddy in an interview an he just worships the guy, Les even got one of his basses autographed by Geddy. That's pretty cool.

Avo
07-18-2005, 07:39 PM
Tony Levin is fuckin awesome, but Claypool was way more influenced by Geddy Lee. I saw him talk about Geddy in an interview an he just worships the guy, Les even got one of his basses autographed by Geddy. That's pretty cool.

Yeah I know he worships Geddy, but you can deny that Tony Levin is up on that list too.

Blue Lightening
07-18-2005, 08:37 PM
thanks allot mike!!

"2. Tony Levin. Look for the band "Liquid Tension Experiment" or "Bozio, Levin, Stevens". Either of them had amazing stuff. LTE was 2 or 3 members of Dream Theater and played similar music to Dream Theater, but all instrumental. Very kick-ass stuff."

hehe, Dream theater are awesome man, but i dont like the singing, i love the guitar and drums though...liquid tension sounds like a dream band or something!! i am deffinatly checking this out. i'll give joco a listen too.

oh and...

"omg dude, your so fuking stupid arent you..Classical thump sounds like a piece of shit..lol Ok your fucking retarded..Listen to norwiegan(sp?) wood

here..Now who's the best..Oh and woops, im sure he wasnt being creative the day he composed it on bass..

http://rapidshare.de/files/3160715/...n_wood.mp3.html"

i listened to it...now tell me that wasnt just bass playing, that had to be an accoustic over the top of it????

Mike From The D
07-18-2005, 08:50 PM
I always love when "other" leads a poll. :wtf:

temp100
07-18-2005, 08:57 PM
omg dude, your so fuking stupid arent you..Classical thump sounds like a piece of shit..lol Ok your fucking retarded..Listen to norwiegan(sp?) wood

here..Now who's the best..Oh and woops, im sure he wasnt being creative the day he composed it on bass..

http://rapidshare.de/files/3160715/victor_wooten_-_a_show_of_hands_-_16_-_bonus_track_norwegian_wood.mp3.html

Look. My brother has heard me playing Classical Thump before. He could appreciate its technicality, but thought it was boring. I agree. So tell me how I'm fucking stupid for thinking Classical Thump sounds like a piece of shit.
Did you not even read my post? I said that I used to idolise Wooten. Therefore, of course I've fucking heard Norwegian wood before. I never said that he played a million notes a second all the time and had no groove. See above and I said he is more creative than most technical bassists.
But I think you'll find that most people would rather listen to Flea's basslines. As hard as it is to comprehend, it's usually true. Oh wow!!! Wooten has a bassline that isn't 1000 notes a second. Does that automatically make him more creative than any other bassist?
You asked me who is better? I haven't changed my answer since a week ago. Wooten is technically better than Flea. Flea is more creative (better songwriter). There... happy now? But if you had read my post, you would have got the gist of it.
I wouldn't have cared if you went on about Wooten and voted him. But NEVER call Flea crap. Because he is possibly one of the greatest bass line writers ever. Maybe one day you will understand that being the most technical bassist out there isn't the epitome of human achievement.

creator
07-18-2005, 09:38 PM
Flea is a better songwriter you fucking doink/?/?/? He wrote one song..pea...which was rather bad. Wooten has solo albums which are amazeing,,,You can not play classical thump that why your brother thought it was boring..that and he probably cant understand classical, you probably cant as well...Your comparing shit to gold...fool..Flea sucks.. Hes just a fucked up clone of larry graham

MiKe
07-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Flea is a better songwriter you fucking doink/?/?/? He wrote one song..pea...which was rather bad. Wooten has solo albums which are amazeing,,,You can not play classical thump that why your brother thought it was boring..that and he probably cant understand classical, you probably cant as well...Your comparing shit to gold...fool..Flea sucks.. Hes just a fucked up clone of larry graham

Flea writes the basslines to just about every RHCP song dude. He doesn't write the whole song, but he deserves more credit then you give him. For a guy with no formal training, he's fuckin' great at what he does despite his lack of musical knowledge, has come up with some killer bass lines.

i listened to it...now tell me that wasnt just bass playing, that had to be an accoustic over the top of it????

Classical Thump is just Wooten playing bass, by himself, just one instrument. I've seen him do it and it's ridiculous. It's a decent song, but it's also a perfect example of why I'm not as huge a fan as I once was. Parts of it are so cluttered that you can't understand what's going on. I hate when he does that, and sadly he does it a lot.

temp100
07-19-2005, 03:16 AM
Flea is a better songwriter you fucking doink/?/?/? He wrote one song..pea...which was rather bad. Wooten has solo albums which are amazeing,,,You can not play classical thump that why your brother thought it was boring..that and he probably cant understand classical, you probably cant as well...Your comparing shit to gold...fool..Flea sucks.. Hes just a fucked up clone of larry graham
You're a fool and you need to get yourself educated. When a bassist is rated on his songwriting skill, one is referring to the writing of the bassline. It doesn't mean that Flea has to have written the lyrics and everything. How the bassline fits into and complements the song is extremely important. Of course, when you're talking about good bassists, you want the bassline to sound cool in itself as well as complement the song and keep timing etc. Flea's songwriting is perfect. It sounds awesome (creative songwriting), doesn't deviate from the song, keeps the timing and doesn't steal the limelight from the guitarwork. His lines suit the songs perfectly.
Have you ever considered that he wasn't trying to be a show off on Pea??? He doesn't even slap on it. It is just meant to be a fun song. If you had half a brain cell, you would've listened to the lyrics and realised that Flea is not trying to be a bass virtuoso in that song. Do you ever have fun in life??? Or do you think every song is designed to placate royalty with technical five finger triplets, double popping and slapping combined with shredding, pinch harmonics and Myung style fingerwork?

FGWB
07-19-2005, 03:12 PM
Other = Cliff Burton

creator
07-19-2005, 03:41 PM
A songwriter is someone who writes, in part or in full, the lyrics to songs, the musical composition to songs, or both. That is to say a songwriter is a lyricist, a composer, or both. The word 'songwriter' is however more commonly used to describe one who writes popular songs than to describe a writer of art songs.

Songwriters may perform the songs they write themselves, or may write for somebody else to perform. People who sing their own songs are nowadays typically called singer-songwriters, although the tradition of doing this dates back hundreds of years. It is often speculated that pre-historic man must have made up and sung songs. More recently, the troubadors of the middle ages sang their own work, as did the German Minnesingers.

Most art songwriting is written for somebody other than the composer to perform, although it is known that Schubert often sang his own songs at private parties, and there have been a number of composers who were also singers and wrote for themselves, Carl Loewe being one example.

Thus contributeing your larry graham..umm, i mean flea bassline doesnt count as being a songwriter, otherwise every musician would be a songwriter, which most are far from...MORON

adam_toker
07-19-2005, 03:56 PM
holy shitt... i'm the only one who voted for stu hamm? that guy is a master bassist, if you don't think so, listen to his medley, its all over the internet, it's got the moonlight sonata, and his song "country music." Its insane. He slaps that instrument so fast its so great.

temp100
07-19-2005, 08:13 PM
A songwriter is someone who writes, in part or in full, the lyrics to songs, the musical composition to songs, or both. That is to say a songwriter is a lyricist, a composer, or both. The word 'songwriter' is however more commonly used to describe one who writes popular songs than to describe a writer of art songs.

Songwriters may perform the songs they write themselves, or may write for somebody else to perform. People who sing their own songs are nowadays typically called singer-songwriters, although the tradition of doing this dates back hundreds of years. It is often speculated that pre-historic man must have made up and sung songs. More recently, the troubadors of the middle ages sang their own work, as did the German Minnesingers.

Most art songwriting is written for somebody other than the composer to perform, although it is known that Schubert often sang his own songs at private parties, and there have been a number of composers who were also singers and wrote for themselves, Carl Loewe being one example.

Thus contributeing your larry graham..umm, i mean flea bassline doesnt count as being a songwriter, otherwise every musician would be a songwriter, which most are far from...MORON

I repeat again, when most people are talking about a musician's songwriting skill, it doesn't actually mean they wrote the whole song. People emphasize "songwriting" to separate it from technical ability and the fact that a song is theoretically based around the timings of the bass. If you don't like that, just imagine that I said "bassline writing skill" instead of "songwriting skill" which Flea has a shitload of.
Just because Larry Graham pioneered popping and slapping, doesn't mean that everyone who uses it is ripping off him. Very poor logic, especially since Wooten uses pop/slap. That is like saying whenever someone plays a bass lead, that they are ripping of John Entwistle etc. I could run around as an idiot like you and say that Wooten is ripping off Pastorius couldn't I? But I'm not that ignorant. Slapping was around before Larry Graham combined the two. But does that mean that Larry Graham "ripped" off the guy who first slapped on the bass (because he is using slapping in his new technique). No...

badmoon349
07-19-2005, 08:48 PM
Jaco Pastorius

He's easily ahead of each player on that list, with the possible exception of Wooten.

jdust629
07-19-2005, 10:53 PM
Where's James Jamerson?

MiKe
07-19-2005, 10:58 PM
Jaco Pastorius

He's easily ahead of each player on that list, with the possible exception of Wooten.

I think Jaco easily beats Wooten just because he did it first. Wooten had guys like Jaco and Stanley to influence him, Jaco just pulled all that stuff out of his own head before anyone else even thought of it.

creator
07-20-2005, 04:48 PM
tempo, your pretty dumb...

Anyways jaco had prob the most skill out there..Jamerson rocks..I love his stevie wonder basslines....His basslines are so much better then crappy fleas....

Matt the Fierce
07-20-2005, 04:53 PM
Vic Wooten.

temp100
07-20-2005, 08:49 PM
tempo, your pretty dumb...

Anyways jaco had prob the most skill out there..Jamerson rocks..I love his stevie wonder basslines....His basslines are so much better then crappy fleas....
See man. You know that I'm right so you can't do anything but say I'm dumb. If the majority of people out there would rather listen to a Flea bassline than a Wooten one, so be it. Don't call them "loosers" for it. Flea's basslines are good. Funky, creative, never repetitive and good. A bassline doesn't have to have a million notes a second to be good, mmmkay.
Yes Jaco is good. I can agree on that. He actually had originality.

( ((hoBodav)) )
07-21-2005, 02:31 AM
Isn't Tony Levin a death metal bassist?

That is the most awesome thing i have ever read. I think Levin's work with king crimson/fripp, peter gabriel etc borders on godlike, so... well you know :D

Nobody else mentioned him, but how about Chris Squire from Yes, he has an incredibly technical picking style. Levin, Squire, and Peter Hook (Joy Division, New Order) are my three faves.

temp100
07-21-2005, 02:52 AM
That is the most awesome thing i have ever read. I think Levin's work with king crimson/fripp, peter gabriel etc borders on godlike, so... well you know :D

Nobody else mentioned him, but how about Chris Squire from Yes, he has an incredibly technical picking style. Levin, Squire, and Peter Hook (Joy Division, New Order) are my three faves.
Haha yeah. I always get Tony Levin mixed up with the bassist from Atheist and Cynic for some reason. After someone mentioned King Crimson, I realised that was the band :D . Yeah, Chris Squire is good.

TheOriginalF
07-22-2005, 11:03 PM
I had to vote other, there are simply too many bassists not on the list to choose from the options that you gave us. Bassists like Jaco Pastorius, Ray Brown, Phil Lesh, Brian Ritchie, Mike Gordon, Charles Mingus, Bootsy Collins, Edgar Meyer...ect ect ect.

bartender
07-24-2005, 02:56 AM
damn noone voted for john paul jones his stuff was so under rated just listen to dazed and confused and tell me thats not awesome

MiKe
07-24-2005, 02:20 PM
damn noone voted for john paul jones his stuff was so under rated just listen to dazed and confused and tell me thats not awesome

JPJ fuckin rules. He had some of the best bass lines in classic rock, plus he played keys and mandolin good too. I heard he had some really good solo work too, but I haven't heard any of it.

Haschishin
07-24-2005, 02:28 PM
JPJ is one of the most under-rated musicians out there, I'm happy to see he was an option on this poll, Kudos to the poll starter....

Pat The Baker
07-24-2005, 02:33 PM
JPJ does kick ass. Trampled Under Foot was all keys, that was probably some of his best work with the keys, that I can think of. Without him on the madolin all of their acoustic songs with it would be pretty boring.

Haschishin
07-24-2005, 02:37 PM
^ Very true, It's to bad he had to make that comment while with Zeppelin about the singer being the least important part of the band, Plant took it really hard and is the reason why JPG is never around when Plant and Page get back together, (Plant won't invite him) For example No Quarter.

SystemOfADownxx
07-28-2005, 02:14 AM
I am ashamed of this pole... no Cliff Burton, how can you have a best bassist poll without Cliff?, :eek: :thud:

sparrky
07-28-2005, 02:22 AM
I am ashamed of this pole... no Cliff Burton, how can you have a best bassist poll without Cliff?, :eek: :thud:
because he is overrated and does not even compare to the legends included on this poll.

KingCrimson
07-28-2005, 02:54 AM
I voted other. Jaco Pastorius is my boy. :D
Yeah. There is no compition. Jaco is the best flat out.

Banzai
07-28-2005, 08:39 AM
Lemmy Kilmister

MiKe
07-28-2005, 10:13 AM
<-------------- There's the best bass player.