I cannot stand people who hate Michael Jackson for certain reasons.

[Shlumpeet]

Michael Jackson will go down in history as one of the best musicians of the century. He wrote excellent music and is one of the best dancers ever.

Now, almost everyone I know hates him and his music because they're ignorant.

"He's a child molestor, his music sucked!"

No. There's not even proof he did it, and his music was very, very good.

"He's gay, he looks like a girl!"

Again, he made good music.

Fact is, Michael Jackson made very, very good music and yet we still have assholes who don't like his music because they're stupid. I know a lot of people who love Queen, but Freddie Mercury was gay but yet they seem to love their music.

If you think Michael Jackson made bad music simply because you think it's bad, I don't care. I respect that. But if you think he made bad music because he's a child molestor (and there's no proof), you need to die.

[atreyu_2020]

They dont hate him because their ignorant, people have opinions too. I'll admit he made great music for his genre, but theres many different reasons to hate Michael Jackson other than child molesting.

[reggie jax]

Michael Jackson made some of the best pop music in the 20th centruy, though still not the abosolute best. But the best musician of the century? That's just absurd when you got dudes like Miles Davis who were litteraly miles ahead of him, no pun intended.

[Shlumpeet]

Michael Jackson will go down in history as one of the best musicians of the century.

Not being able to just quote and having to leave a message containing 10 characters is homosexual.

[reggie jax]

But he still isn't even "one of" the best musicians of the 20th century. He makes really catchy pop music, leave it at that.

[whocares]

I agree Michael Jackson's music kicked ass. :bang:

After that supposed Child molesting case, people just hate him because it's cool to hate him.

[HunterH320]

I didn't even think Jackson wrote his own music, nor does he play an instrument. How is he one of the greatest musicians of the century?

[gog2rino]

Fact is, Michael Jackson made very, very good music and yet we still have assholes who don't like his music because they're stupid. I know a lot of people who love Queen, but Freddie Mercury was gay but yet they seem to love their music.



There's a huge difference between being gay and being a child molestor. Get that straight. There's a difference between a person who engages in relations with consenting adults who happen to be the same sex and people who abuse young children.

And I know many people, myself included, who dislike his music, not his lifestyle. You have to understand that not everybody likes "pop" music, and people have opinions and tastes different from yours.

[Fidel_Cashflow]

Amazing performer, but I wouldnt call him a musician. And like somebody else said, there is a big difference between a child molestor and a homosexual. Even if he was a child molestor it wouldnt take away from his music but I would lose any respect I had for him as a person if he was.

[Slug Moses]

I didn't even think Jackson wrote his own music, nor does he play an instrument. How is he one of the greatest musicians of the century?

He didn't write any of it when he was young in the Jackson 5 or when he first went solo. The good stuff, like Off the Wall and Thriller, were all written and played by Quincy Jones and his studio musicians.

He started writing more after that, mostly lyrics and "hee=hee!"s. His music steadily went downhill the more he wrote himself.

But, he can sing and dance like a mofo. He also had sex with Maculkin Cully, his shining moment.

[Kenyan]

It's Close To Midnight And Something Evil's Lurking In The Dark
Under The Moonlight You See A Sight That Almost Stops Your Heart
You Try To Scream But Terror Takes The Sound Before You Make It
You Start To Freeze As Horror Looks You Right Between The Eyes,
You're Paralyzed

[Chorus]
'Cause This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
And No One's Gonna Save You From The Beast About
Strike
You Know It's Thriller, Thriller Night
You're Fighting For Your Life Inside A Killer, Thriller
Tonight

[2nd Verse]
You Hear The Door Slam And Realize There's Nowhere Left To Run
You Feel The Cold Hand And Wonder If You'll Ever See The Sun
You Close Your Eyes And Hope That This Is Just
Imagination
But All The While You Hear The Creature Creepin' Up
Behind
You're Out Of Time

[Chorus]
'Cause This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
There Ain't No Second Chance Against The Thing With
Forty Eyes
You Know It's Thriller, Thriller Night
You're Fighting For Your Life Inside Of Killer, Thriller Tonight

[Bridge]
Night Creatures Call
And The Dead Start To Walk In Their Masquerade
There's No Escapin' The Jaws Of The Alien This Time
(They're Open Wide)
This Is The End Of Your Life

[3rd Verse]
They're Out To Get You, There's Demons Closing In On Every Side
They Will Possess You Unless You Change The Number On Your Dial
Now Is The Time For You And I To Cuddle Close Together
All Thru The Night I'll Save You From The Terror On The Screen,
I'll Make You See

[Chorus]
That This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
'Cause I Can Thrill You More Than Any Ghost Would Dare To Try
Girl, This Is Thriller, Thriller Night
So Let Me Hold You Tight And Share A Killer, Diller, Chiller
Thriller Here Tonight

[Rap Performed By Vincent Price]
Darkness Falls Across The Land
The Midnite Hour Is Close At Hand
Creatures Crawl In Search Of Blood
To Terrorize Y'awl's Neighbourhood
And Whosoever Shall Be Found
Without The Soul For Getting Down
Must Stand And Face The Hounds Of Hell
And Rot Inside A Corpse's Shell
The Foulest Stench Is In The Air
The Funk Of Forty Thousand Years
And Grizzy Ghouls From Every Tomb
Are Closing In To Seal Your Doom
And Though You Fight To Stay Alive
Your Body Starts To Shiver
For No Mere Mortal Can Resist
The Evil Of The Thriller

[MoDilly]

And I know many people, myself included, who dislike his music, not his lifestyle. You have to understand that not everybody likes "pop" music, and people have opinions and tastes different from yours.
Please read his whole post so you don't make useless posts making you look like an unobservant ass.

"If you think Michael Jackson made bad music simply because you think it's bad, I don't care. I respect that." :rolleyes:

[/Tilt/]

Thriller may be the best song ever.

[Shlumpeet]

There's a huge difference between being gay and being a child molestor. Get that straight. There's a difference between a person who engages in relations with consenting adults who happen to be the same sex and people who abuse young children.

And I know many people, myself included, who dislike his music, not his lifestyle. You have to understand that not everybody likes "pop" music, and people have opinions and tastes different from yours.

I used Freddie Mercury being gay as an example because I've heard people say "He's gay, his music sucked!" but at the same time they're big fans of Queen.

Also, you don't seem to realize that I cannot stand people who hate his music because of who Michael Jackson is. If you think his music is bad and you don't like it, I do not care, but if you don't like it because he's a child molestor, you're ignorant.

[Shlumpeet]

Please read his whole post so you don't make useless posts making you look like an unobservant ass.

"If you think Michael Jackson made bad music simply because you think it's bad, I don't care. I respect that." :rolleyes:

That made no sense.

[MoDilly]

That made no sense.
He was telling you that you need to respect people that dont like him for other reasons than being a child molester, when you clearly stated that you have respect for peoples musical opinions when you said this.
"If you think Michael Jackson made bad music simply because you think it's bad, I don't care. I respect that."

Are you high?

[JuliaAguilar]

Personally, I have no problem with his music. I can take it or leave it, and I'm not afraid to admit that his music is/was very popular. That's not my issue I have with him.

I don't like Michael Jackson as a parent and/or role model. He dangled his baby off of a balcony, for Christ's sake. I think that his excessive need for plastic surgery also does not speak highly of his character. Apparently, all the money he has, along with the fame, and talent, didn't give him enough self-confidence to like himself the way he is, instead of feeling the need to change his face so many times that he looks like someone brought him back from the dead in Resident Evil. To me, that doesn't speak very highly of his ability to be a positive role model for his or anyone else's children. How in the hell is he supposed to raise his children to love themselves, and to be confident, if he, himself, has no self confidence? I find it terribly sad that people these days need an operation to feel good about themselves, and Michael Jackson is no exception. That is why I don't like Michael Jackson. It's not because of his music, not at all. It's because that he, as a human, is not what I consider a suitable model for the public eye to be seeing.

[Shlumpeet]

He was telling you that you need to respect people that dont like him for other reasons than being a child molester, when you clearly stated that you have respect for peoples musical opinions when you said this.
"If you think Michael Jackson made bad music simply because you think it's bad, I don't care. I respect that."

Are you high?

I said the same thing when I said that. What I meant was if you don't like his music because it's bad, then I don't care. If you don't like it because "He's gay." of "He's a child molestor.", then you're an idiot.

[toadman]

I agree with the poster. MJ is the king of pop regardless of what he may or may not have done to those kids. I love his music and always will.

[temp100]

I consider him the king of pop, probably one of the greatest pop musicians, but definitely not the greatest ever musician in any genre. He was a bloody awesome singer, and boy he could dance. He hasn't been matched by anyone as far as I know. And no, that pathetic Usher prick doesn't count.

[voopoo18]

I agree Michael Jackson's music kicked ass. :bang:

After that supposed Child molesting case, people just hate him because it's cool to hate him.



I can't stand faggots that hate him because of that........people are even making flash files making fun of him now. Maybe he's weird looking but he has good music.

[Travmire]

I don't like his music, and I never have. I could care less if he was the king of pop. Nsnyc, Backstreet Boys, and Ashlee Simpson are pop too. If he wants to be king of that crap, go ahead.

I do think he is a child molester, and I also think that he is probably gay, or atleast bisexual.

Are you really that ignorant to hate someone, and everything about them because of that? Hitler made some great military decisions, like Jacko may have made some great songs. Does that mean we have to love Hitler and everything about him?

[reggie jax]

I don't like his music, and I never have. I could care less if he was the king of pop. Nsnyc, Backstreet Boys, and Ashlee Simpson are pop too. If he wants to be king of that crap, go ahead.

I do think he is a child molester, and I also think that he is probably gay, or atleast bisexual.

Are you really that ignorant to hate someone, and everything about them because of that? Hitler made some great military decisions, like Jacko may have made some great songs. Does that mean we have to love Hitler and everything about him? A Hitler comparison? Come on man... take it down a notch. No need to go jumping into old clichés.

[Travmire]

A Hitler comparison? Come on man... take it down a notch. No need to go jumping into old clichés.

I am not comparing Jackson to Hitler, just the logic in hating someone. Some people would say that Jackson was a genius when it comes to music. Some people would say that Hitler was a genius too. People hate Hitler for killing many people and don't give a shit if he was a genius. That is a fair judgment. Therfore is it fair for people to hate Jackson because he molested children and don't give a shit how good of a musician he was.

And before saying there is no proof that he molested children, is there anyone here who would leave your child alone with him? So what if there is no proof, it doesn't matter.

[RentalCarChris]

Come on guys, I mean look at him. What's NOT to like about him?? :confused:

http://www.davidstuff.com/opinion/los-mjackson.jpg
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/j/Jackson,_Michael/sq-michael-baby-balcony-cnn.jpg
http://shotsdaily.com/music/photos/jacksonpajamas.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/pinlow/blog%20pictures/Michaels_pajamas.jpg
http://solo2.abac.com/themole/michael_jackson_mugshot.jpg
O wait... He is a fucking freak...

[reggie jax]

I am not comparing Jackson to Hitler, just the logic in hating someone. Some people would say that Jackson was a genius when it comes to music. Some people would say that Hitler was a genius too. People hate Hitler for killing many people and don't give a shit if he was a genius. That is a fair judgment. Therfore is it fair for people to hate Jackson because he molested children and don't give a shit how good of a musician he was.

And before saying there is no proof that he molested children, is there anyone here who would leave your child alone with him? So what if there is no proof, it doesn't matter.I dunno if he molested the kid or not but what i do know is that the kid's family was obviously after money from the beginning and I'm glad they lost the case. Why else would they possibly leave their kid with MJ? Cause they saw that the other kid who accused him got a nice juicy settlement. Fuckin scumbag golddiggers exploiting their kid for financial gain.

[temp100]

I don't like his music, and I never have. I could care less if he was the king of pop. Nsnyc, Backstreet Boys, and Ashlee Simpson are pop too. If he wants to be king of that crap, go ahead.

I do think he is a child molester, and I also think that he is probably gay, or atleast bisexual.

Are you really that ignorant to hate someone, and everything about them because of that? Hitler made some great military decisions, like Jacko may have made some great songs. Does that mean we have to love Hitler and everything about him?
Now now lol. No bashing an entire genre. My point is I hate pop, but the king of pop is actually listenable. He actually has talent. For example, it is easy to be a good singer (every 2nd black girl can sing well enough to be a "popstar"). It is hard to be an awesome singer (Mercury, Dickinson etc.) Nowadays pop voices are edited on the computer to be perfect which is very pretentious because the "popstar" can't sing like this in real life. But Michael Jackson could actually sing very well, he can dance very well (not really music, but it is talent) and from what I've heard, can sing like that in real life.

[reggie jax]

The Beatles were popstars too. In fact they influenced modern boy bands a hell of a lot more than Jackson, but I don't see you guys bashing them.

[Ray]

Michael Jackson is great. He is the best performer of his music, he has a way of sucking you into his songs, a quality that he best uses with kids. But seriously, he definately is one of the best performers ever.

Also, he was a performer that was brought into music from day 1 of his life. His music, performances and his fans are his life, because he doesn't know how to live a normal life.

[guest2005]

The Beatles were popstars too. In fact they influenced modern boy bands a hell of a lot more than Jackson, but I don't see you guys bashing them.

yeah.... beatles suck :D

just bugging you buddy

[Pat The Baker]

Jacko kicks ass.

[BrainStew]

I won't deny that MJ is the king of pop. But that doesn't mean I have to like him. His music does not appeal to me, and I dislike him for the reasons Julia gave.

[mrmylo]

1. pop music is boring & stupid,its the musical equivalent to eating 'empty calories',who cares how good one is at creating musical pablum,without quincy jones MJ wouldnt be half of what he is/was.

2. and is one of the best dancers ever. big fucking deal,that has nothing to do with the creation of 'music'.

there are many reasons to dislike MJ,many of which have nothing to do with his musical ability,....many DO. without the marketing he had,and the production of quincy jones,the guy would be nothing more than a footnote in discussions of 60s-70s era sugar coated pop music.

yeah,thriller is one of the best selling POP albums of all time. that doesnt give it any crediblity other than it being a well marketed 'product' the musical substance of that and all of his other works could fill a thimble.
I hated that album when it came out,still do,...its partially responsible for the general dumbing down of music in general,it helped make MTV the plastic standard for all dumb music that it is today,and paved the way for a shitload of talentless blonde bimbonic pop bitches and boy bands.

3. MJ is one of the weirdest,most mentally ill bastards to ever be in the limelight.

this is just my opinion,...if you dont like it,well,..I couldnt give a fuck. fuck off. :D

[MoDilly]

I said the same thing when I said that. What I meant was if you don't like his music because it's bad, then I don't care. If you don't like it because "He's gay." of "He's a child molestor.", then you're an idiot.
Ummmmm, that would be what I said.
Sooooo ya. :shuffle:

[JuliaAguilar]

There's a difference between not liking his music and not liking him. There are a whole host of artists whose music I like, but whom I completely can't stand as persons because of their attitude or whatever. The reverse is also true - that there are some artists whose music I totally think sucks, but I like them as a person because they seem respectable.

A judge of someone's music is not a complete reflection of that person's character.

[Pig]

His music= Good



Him= bad.

[Travmire]

I really don't care if MJ can dance or not. To me the moonwalk is a retarded dance that only spawned imitators who looked like jackasses. I also don't care how well anyone sings if I don't like the sound or the songs. I don't like his songs, and I don't like him.

I do agree that it is possible to like a person and not their music though. I like Nick Lachey as a person. I don't like his music, and I have never seen his tv show, but he is a big Cincinnati sports fan, and I like that.

[prettyinpunk]

I've gotta agree with the first post, he is a very talented guy and the people who go off of him because of a few 'rumours' that started saying he molests kids... well i feel sorry for you, don't be so niave, this is the press feeding you these stories. Obviously no one knows anything for certain but think about it; Would someone so famous and rich do something like perv over a child knowing full well it would obviously come out. Or, would a family looking for a few more dollars let their kid stay at someones house, who's history with kids isn't perfect and start making conpiracies to get the money.
Furthermore, i still think he looked WAY better before he had surgery, but hell, it's his life and you only live once-let him live how he wants. Is he doing you any harm by getting surgery and whatever else, no.
He shares his music and dancing with us and thats all we can truly critisize/congragulate him on, he as an entertainer is supposed to share his talents with the public, not his personal life. How can we possibly think about judging someone we dont know. :)

[JuliaAguilar]

How can we possibly think about judging someone we dont know. :)

Because he is in the public eye, and like it or not, he will be influencing people. The people in the public eye, (celebrities, sports stars) are often role models to young children, and if you ask me, the example he sets by the way he acts are not the kind of examples I want my children, or anyone else's, learning from. That is why I don't like him.

I say nothing about his music. It's okay, and I can take it or leave it.

He's not that great of a dancer ... I've been a dancer for 19 years and I've seen many more people who can dance a lot better than him. Once again, he's okay.

That's not the issue when it comes to him, at least not for me. He's in the public eye and he's going to be setting some kind of example to others, whether we like it or not. It's not like my children are going to be raised under the watchful eye of the TV or anything, but the sad truth is that people learn from the things around them, including the media.

[prettyinpunk]

this may sound harsh to some but, if you can allow yourself to be influenced by someone who looks as real as a barbie then you've got some very serious issues. :)

[Shlumpeet]

Come on guys, I mean look at him. What's NOT to like about him?? :confused:

http://www.davidstuff.com/opinion/los-mjackson.jpg
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/j/Jackson,_Michael/sq-michael-baby-balcony-cnn.jpg
http://shotsdaily.com/music/photos/jacksonpajamas.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/pinlow/blog%20pictures/Michaels_pajamas.jpg
http://solo2.abac.com/themole/michael_jackson_mugshot.jpg
O wait... He is a fucking freak...

You people don't understand that I made this thread because I hate you assholes who hate Michael Jackson's music because he is a "freak".

Thriller owns your face.

[Shlumpeet]

There's a difference between not liking his music and not liking him. There are a whole host of artists whose music I like, but whom I completely can't stand as persons because of their attitude or whatever. The reverse is also true - that there are some artists whose music I totally think sucks, but I like them as a person because they seem respectable.

A judge of someone's music is not a complete reflection of that person's character.

So true. And we still have people coming in this thread bashing Michael Jackson.