First Punk/Rock Band?

[Morox]

Who do you think was the first punk/rock band?

I would have to go with The Stooges. If you haven't even heard of them, then I suggest you take a listen. This was the band Iggy Pop was in before he went solo.

[DrProf]

im foggy, but i think it was the fugs, then the velvet underground

[/Tilt/]

Yeah. The Fugs in New York.

[reigenborn]

The Who..

Just listen to some of their stuff..

[/Tilt/]

The Who..

Just listen to some of their stuff..
Ah. I wanted to say it, but couldn't. The Who had so much different stuff, but maybe some of it could be considered punk rock. You have to have an open mind about them, though.

[Perl_5]

hell i dont know anyone before sum 41... so ill have to say sum 41.

[TheCheat]

hell i dont know anyone before sum 41... so ill have to say sum 41.

wow can someone be any stupider? :banghead:

[BrainStew]

wow can someone be any stupider? :banghead:
At least he/she/it didn't say Avril Lavigne. :)

[Brat]

The first "punk" band would be Iggy and the Stooges. But there probablly were some garage bands in the late 60's early 70's pumping out punk music before it had a name.

[drowningaugust]

I'm not sure of who the first punk band was, but some songs by The Beatles (She Said, She Said; Helter Skelter) had a very punk-like edge. Though they were by no means the first punk band, they were among the first well-known bands to add a little edge to their music.

[Perl_5]

wow can someone be any stupider? :banghead:

I said i didnt know anyone before sum 41. that explains why i chose sum 41. i havent been listening to punk rock my whole life like some people might have. so id say that you're the stupid one for having a problem with my reply. long live the douche

[BrainStew]

I said i didnt know anyone before sum 41. that explains why i chose sum 41. i havent been listening to punk rock my whole life like some people might have. so id say that you're the stupid one for having a problem with my reply. long live the douche
So according to your logic, you don't know of bands such as The Sex Pistols, The Casualties, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Cream, or Blue Oyster Cult. :rolleyes:

[sparrky]

silly rabbits, everyone knows AL Gore invented punk rock.

[Electrify]

I said i didnt know anyone before sum 41. that explains why i chose sum 41. i havent been listening to punk rock my whole life like some people might have. so id say that you're the stupid one for having a problem with my reply. long live the douche
Holy fuck I thought you were joking with that Sum41 comment!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I am by no means a hard core punk fan, and I do think Sum41 is one of the better alternative bands out there right now, but by no means are they the first punk band!!!

Seriously, why did you even reply to this message???

[JesuSlaveX]

:banghead: I dont mean to get ya'll panties in a bind, but "Punk" music isnt just a style, its also frame of mind. If a band writes a song that is against the norm (say government or religion) AND puts a style to it thats against the norm (metal music in a country bar for instance) then it is considered "PUNK". Music today......soooooooo not punk.

Examples:

Good Charlotte (not punk) They didnt start a style, and arent against anything of great importance. They suck

Beethoven (Punk) He went against the idea of how music was at the time and was against the people who created it. He did his own thing.

Sum 41 (NOT FREAKING PUNK!!) See the above comment about Good Charlotte, but add that they suck even harder

Rage Against The Machine (PUNK) One of the first bands, after Bestie Boys of course, to fuse Metal and Hip Hop. From that fusion they created a style that is copied by every freaking poser band today. With crazy lyrics from Delarocha, what werent they against?

I hope this clears things up for you. And if you disagree with me, then you like EMO, not punk. You dont know crap about crap. Drop dead and get some real music in ya.

[DrProf]

So, punk is another word for origanality? And it's "punk-rock" music, which is a style; the one associated with the punk subculture.

[Perl_5]

So according to your logic, you don't know of bands such as The Sex Pistols, The Casualties, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Cream, or Blue Oyster Cult. :rolleyes:

oh shit... im a little slow ... the name of the thread is First Punk/Rock Band... i thought they were talking about punk rock like blink 182.... in that case... uhh... ill say pink floyd then.. i only started listening to rock like a year ago so i dont know much. dont get mad at me.

[AssHat812]

I can't believe no one has said the Ramones yet.

[JesuSlaveX]

So, punk is another word for origanality? And it's "punk-rock" music, which is a style; the one associated with the punk subculture.

No, Punk is "Going against the Man". You can be original and still be worthless as a creative musician. Originality stems from experience, and I doubt most if not all of the "Punk-Rock" musicians out today have hit puberty long enough to understand what life is.

The Punk Sub-Culture no longer exists. Its dead, and your retarded

[DrProf]

No, Punk is "Going against the Man". You can be original and still be worthless as a creative musician. Originality stems from experience, and I doubt most if not all of the "Punk-Rock" musicians out today have hit puberty long enough to understand what life is.

The Punk Sub-Culture no longer exists. Its dead, and your retarded

what the hell was that for? i never said anything about agreeing with the punk sub culture, and did not specify the generation that i was talking about at all (as a side note, i've never been able to stand what passes as punk nowadays), i said your point was flawed.if you want to state an opinion, don't get defensive if your logic comes into question.

[JesuSlaveX]

what the hell was that for? i never said anything about agreeing with the punk sub culture, and did not specify the generation that i was talking about at all (as a side note, i've never been able to stand what passes as punk nowadays), i said your point was flawed.if you want to state an opinion, don't get defensive if your logic comes into question.

Hey, I'm just stating that my view of Punk music is mine, and I think its right. And thre are millions out there who feel the same way. If I conveyed something falsly, then I'm retarded. But your still retarded, so were friends in our retardation

:lol:

[Benny Brown]

As far as "punk" goes as a musical style, the sex pistols (or the ramones) created the style and made it famous. Other bands that have been mentioned, the Stooges, the Velvet Underground, who are both considered proto-punk bands, because they are the closest to sounding punk as what it would become. However, if you compare their music to the Sex Pistols, there is a distinct difference in sound. Practically all the raw-sounding low-fi bands of the 60s-70s contributed to the development of "modern" punk.

Punk music sucks, though. The Clash was the best punk band (at least when punk was real), but even they aren't that good. The best thing that punk music did for music in general is create bands like Joy Division that took the punk sound and deepened it, creating "alternative" music.

Pussy bands like Sum 41, Blink 182, etc... are not Punk at all. They are power-pop bands. In order to be true punk, you have to sound absolutely terrible and yell a whole lot of inaudible lyrics (modern punk).
oh shit... im a little slow ... the name of the thread is First Punk/Rock Band... i thought they were talking about punk rock like blink 182.... in that case... uhh... ill say pink floyd then.. i only started listening to rock like a year ago so i dont know much. dont get mad at me.
You have no idea what we are talking about, do you? You seem like you're about 13 years old, so I guess you have an excuse, but for your own good, stop posting about music. Pink Floyd is NOT punk. Punk was a genre that only truly lived from the mid-late 70s until the mid 80s when hair metal killed it. There was a "punk revival" in the early-mid nineties when even the Sex Pistols got back together, and the term "punk" started getting tossed around a whole lot more.

[MarkNucero44]

-quote stevo from slc punk-
"who cares who started it!! its music.."

[*Moonchild*]

Ramones n the pistols.

[Asatica]

FUCK punk rock man, goes WAYYY back....but as fucked as i am, The earliest punk rock influence would have to be ummmm the ramones then the stooges and the new york dolls....................had me fucked...........good one!!!!!

[Banzai]

FUCK punk rock man, goes WAYYY back....but as fucked as i am, The earliest punk rock influence would have to be ummmm the ramones then the stooges and the new york dolls....................had me fucked...........good one!!!!!
Fuck yeah fucking right I get fucked all the time by the stooges fuck!

The Stooges and MC5 started in the later 1960's, which influenced bands like the Sex Pistols and the Ramones who made 'punk' more mainstream and a little more adaptable to the current culture. However, bands like the Buzzcocks and the Germs created their own sound which influenced other bands to different styles of 'punk'

But then again...

-quote stevo from slc punk-
"who cares who started it!! its music.."

[Machavelli]

The Stooges and MC5 started in the later 1960's,
i dont know how many times ive said MC5 in the past week on this forum but i agree

[creator]

i agree with the above post, but you cant call bethoven and ratm punk because thats not thier genre..One's technically classical the other is rap rock..But i agree they had punk mentality..WHich in one word or less is ANAR CHY..

Also Good charlotte is real good punk...(joking)))


lol

[Perl_5]

As far as "punk" goes as a musical style, the sex pistols (or the ramones) created the style and made it famous. Other bands that have been mentioned, the Stooges, the Velvet Underground, who are both considered proto-punk bands, because they are the closest to sounding punk as what it would become. However, if you compare their music to the Sex Pistols, there is a distinct difference in sound. Practically all the raw-sounding low-fi bands of the 60s-70s contributed to the development of "modern" punk.

Punk music sucks, though. The Clash was the best punk band (at least when punk was real), but even they aren't that good. The best thing that punk music did for music in general is create bands like Joy Division that took the punk sound and deepened it, creating "alternative" music.

Pussy bands like Sum 41, Blink 182, etc... are not Punk at all. They are power-pop bands. In order to be true punk, you have to sound absolutely terrible and yell a whole lot of inaudible lyrics (modern punk).

You have no idea what we are talking about, do you? You seem like you're about 13 years old, so I guess you have an excuse, but for your own good, stop posting about music. Pink Floyd is NOT punk. Punk was a genre that only truly lived from the mid-late 70s until the mid 80s when hair metal killed it. There was a "punk revival" in the early-mid nineties when even the Sex Pistols got back together, and the term "punk" started getting tossed around a whole lot more.

listen i just made a simple mistake.

and how are blink 182 and sum 41 and other bands like that pussies?... its a style of music... just because u dont like it u dont have to insult them. thats called faschism... why not kill them because u dont like the music that they play. unless you can play the way they do u shouldnt be such a fuckin critic :censor:

[Brat]

Name 5 punk bands not on MTV and that are still alive, touring, making music, and not bands like The Misfits or Dead Kennedys who just replaced members.

[TheCheat]

Name 5 punk bands not on MTV and that are still alive, touring, making music, and not bands like The Misfits or Dead Kennedys who just replaced members.

the adicts. total chaos. funeral dress. the varukers. cheap sex. :cool:

[Brat]

SHHH! Don't give Perl_5 any ideas! =p

[Morox]

Garry Glitter. He was way ahead for his time and that's why no one liked him. He's also a pedaphile but his music is pretty good.

[Banzai]

Garry Glitter. He was way ahead for his time and that's why no one liked him. He's also a pedaphile but his music is pretty good.
/sarcasm i hope

[Morox]

I consider him in the same genre as punk/rock more than anything else.

[boxerboy820]

Probably The Ramones, they were punk rock weren't they :bang:

[Morox]

They were considered punk/rock, but definitely weren't the first of their kind.

[mugpunx]

ya im glad there are a few people here that do know what PUNK is.

there are many punk bands that are out there and differnet types of punk from street punk to crust punk or Oi and others...


Adicts
Aus Rotten
Abrasive Wheels
A Global Threat
Black Flag
Blatz
Blitz
Buzzcocks
The Casualties
Circle Jerks
Cocksparrer
Cockney Rejects
Conflict
Crass
Dead Kennedys ( Old DK with Jello Biafra )
Defects
Defiance
Devotchkas
Exploited
Endless Struggle
The Germs
Leftover Crack
Lower Class Brats
Oi Polloi
Oi Scouts
One Way System
Oxymoron
Partisans
Reagan Youth
Resilience
Sham 69
Subhumans
Toxic Narcotic
The Virus
Varukers
Unseen


just a quick list for ya! :P

and sum 41 Good charlotte and all that MTV PUNK ... is not even close to punk.... at all.....

but ya i dont wanna sound like an asshole so w/e just telling people what bands are punk in my opinion..

[flipzibit]

Pussy bands like Sum 41, Blink 182, etc... are not Punk at all. They are power-pop bands.
I know that sum 41 and blink 182 arent punk, but i dont think that they arent punk at all. i usually identify them as pop punk. and i kinda like them. some of their songs have pretty good riffs. though i think bands like simple plan and gc suck. simple plan's song untitled is retarded, emo-y, poppy, and kinda reminds me of backstreet boys. and really i hate the the fans of both bands, claiming that they are punk. i know that sum 41 and blink 182 are pop punk and i like them. and i know what punk is, since i like it also.

In order to be true punk, you have to sound absolutely terrible and yell a whole lot of inaudible lyrics (modern punk).
do you mean being terrible and inaudible by having an aggressive, fast sound?

Punk was a genre that only truly lived from the mid-late 70s until the mid 80s when hair metal killed it. There was a "punk revival" in the early-mid nineties when even the Sex Pistols got back together
punk isnt dead, and hair metal didnt kill it. its just underground

also i found this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock

[Machavelli]

Adicts
Aus Rotten
Abrasive Wheels
A Global Threat
Black Flag
Blatz
Blitz
Buzzcocks
The Casualties
Circle Jerks
Cocksparrer
Cockney Rejects
Conflict
Crass
Dead Kennedys ( Old DK with Jello Biafra )
Defects
Defiance
Devotchkas
Exploited
Endless Struggle
The Germs
Leftover Crack
Lower Class Brats
Oi Polloi
Oi Scouts
One Way System
Oxymoron
Partisans
Reagan Youth
Resilience
Sham 69
Subhumans
Toxic Narcotic
The Virus
Varukers
Unseen

I believe the question is the first punk band...none of those are close most are in 80s or 90s

anywas there was a thread not to long ago and i posted almost the exact same bands good taste in music

[TheCheat]

oi oi oi!!! up the punx! hahhaaah :lol:

[KEALYBOY]

Johnny Rotten's entire vocal delivery, stage presence and attitude where lifted from the great Alex Harvey. That guy had the punk attitude, but unlike so many 'punk' acts, the musical ambition and intelligence to match it...

[ziggy]

As far as "punk" goes as a musical style, the sex pistols (or the ramones) created the style and made it famous.

i saw this show on the history of punk and it said that the sex pistols were one of the first boy bands ever because they were put together by some super producer. i don't think you could consider them punk cause they were just doing what their producer told them to do. the show spoke the truth when they talked about the ramones so they could have spoken the truth about the sex pistols.

[lameassdude]

Patti Smith, Bad Brains, Television. They weren't the first, but let's think back to CBGB's for a second and not head straight for the whole Sex Pistols, Ramones crap.

[Kradrats]

Who gives a shit, punks dead.

Its all about chump rock.

[Ghost Mountain]

and sum 41 Good charlotte and all that MTV PUNK ... is not even close to punk.... at all.....

thanks for the new info buddy.

[Enjoi]

i thought the first punk band was the sex pistols

[Al Paccioli]

The Ramones were the first, the older dudes were more of their own thing, basically an inspiration for punk.

[Milkymilk]

The word "Punk" used to express a music culture, was made popular by the creator of 'Punk Magazine' in New York, who I thought was one of the Ramones.

I searched this link could not come up with the original founder of 'Punk Magazine'

I do know that "Punk Magazine" started the trend of people calling themselves Punk rockers.

http://www.punkmagazine.com/index.html

also for a chronological ordering of the use of the word and events in music leading up to it.

http://www.fastnbulbous.com/punk.htm

Edit: Thought I should add: Although its debatable which band is responsible for 'inventing' punk its fairly certain it was a band from New York, not overseas in England. :P


However, see quote below. LOL

"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass," said William Burroughs.

[Morox]

The Ramones were the first, the older dudes were more of their own thing, basically an inspiration for punk.

They weren't the first punk band. Possibly the first punk band to go mainstream though. The Chocolate Watch band is another punk/rock band. They came out in the 60's and are quite good.

[Nyder]

I would say The Velvet Underground.

The punk label came from a magazine article describing the scene of The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, MC5, and others.

[KEALYBOY]

I think it's an insult to the Velvet Underground to call them a punk band, but that's just me...

[Daucus Karota]

Iggy & Stooges and New York Dolls

[biscuit]

Malcom Mclaren saw the ramones at CBGB's and saw a quick buck , so he recruited some bums and formed the sex pistols
to promote his clothing store , "SEX". Punk is a gimmick.

In the words of Crass..


Yes that's right, punk is dead,
It's just another cheap product for the consumers head.
Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,
Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.
CBS promote the Clash,
But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.
Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be
And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.

Movements are systems and systems kill.
Movements are expressions of the public will.
Punk became a movement cos we all felt lost,
But the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost.
Punk narcissism was social napalm,
Steve Jones started doing real harm.
Preaching revolution, anarchy and change
As he sucked from the system that had given him his name.

Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass,
Tired of staring up a superstars arse,
I've got an arse and crap and a name,
I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame.
Steve Jones you're napalm,
If you're so pretty (vacant) why do you swarm?
Patti Smith you're napalm,
You write with your hand but it's Rimbaud's arm.

And me, yes I, do I want to burn?
Is there something I can learn?
Do I need a business man to promote my angle?
Can I resist the carrots that fame and fortune dangle?
I see the velvet zippies in their bondage gear,
The social elite with safety-pins in their ear,
I watch and understand that it don't mean a thing,
The scorpions might attack, but the systems stole the sting.

PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.

[kududoodoop]

i'm gonna go with

The New York Dolls

iggy doesn't sound punk and he isn't

then the ramones really popularized it

then came the sex pistols who when you look back were the only band of the 70's with that sound, they defined punk ROCK not punk pop

[OxYMoR0N]

Im going with Resilience, Lower Class Brats, UNSEEN, Complete Control, and Cheap sex.. .

I > YOU

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/lowerclassbrats23/.jpg

that bitch took me 10 hours ..

[lameassdude]

It was Chuck Berry.

[TheCheat]

Im going with Resilience, Lower Class Brats, UNSEEN, Complete Control, and Cheap sex.. .

your joking right?? umm i think the topic was the 1st punk rock band?