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rand0m
08-05-2005, 07:31 AM
That rules, but what where they shooting at? Hope it was some Iraqies.

Slothman
08-05-2005, 04:17 PM
I doubt they would be shooting at civilians, so yes I think it would be Iraqis. Sweet vid.

AntonioMainenti
08-05-2005, 04:46 PM
That rules, but what where they shooting at? Hope it was some Iraqies.Is there some particular reason that you want Iraqis to get shot at..?I doubt they would be shooting at civilians, so yes I think it would be Iraqis. Sweet vid.Umm.. the civilians are Iraqis. Is English not your first language?

doorknobopener
08-05-2005, 04:57 PM
Is there some particular reason that you want Iraqis to get shot at..?Umm.. the civilians are Iraqis. Is English not your first language?
I think he meant the Iraqis as in the ones that are tring to kill us, an the civilains as the ones not tring to kill us.

FrozenMonkey
08-05-2005, 04:58 PM
i am guessing that they are refering to the people we are at war with, that would make it logical that the army is using it :rolleyes:

Happy House
08-05-2005, 07:14 PM
No, i think they were just duck hunting.

NightsTemper
08-05-2005, 08:51 PM
No, i think they were just duck hunting.


lol funny - cool vid too.

Cerby
08-05-2005, 09:48 PM
I doubt they would be shooting at civilians, so yes I think it would be Iraqis. Sweet vid.

I really don't think Americans care who they shoot, after all, they ARE better than everyone else in the world :insane:

killer scott
08-05-2005, 10:24 PM
I really don't think Americans care who they shoot, after all, they ARE better than everyone else in the world :insane:

your right... we are.

tonythetiger
08-06-2005, 12:39 AM
first off what is that weapon? that needs to be in the new Grand Theft Auto game :bang: second off what the hell is polotics doing in a forum about eBaums world? :confused:

SupraTwinTurbo
08-06-2005, 12:59 AM
first off what is that weapon? that needs to be in the new Grand Theft Auto game :bang: second off what the hell is polotics doing in a forum about eBaums world? :confused:

It's a laser sight used by the army at night to assist airborne attacks. As you can see, they point the sight at the target and the helicopter attacks wherever the laser sight is pointing. :bang:

CubanSmuggler
08-06-2005, 03:12 AM
No, i think they were just duck hunting.

Dude, that's overkill for a duck. They were probably shooting at something, at least three times as big. Maybe some of them damn camel spiders. :thud:

And to whoever said something about .50 machine guns and hellfire missiles being in the new Grand Theft Auto game, I don't know if they'd have enough memory on the disc with all the extra Hot Coffee they put in.

Hot Coffee for the win.

Jenovah
08-06-2005, 06:01 AM
bah..A bit unfair for those Iraqi's though..they don't stand a chance..

FrozenMonkey
08-06-2005, 10:58 AM
bah..A bit unfair for those Iraqi's though..they don't stand a chance..

yeah, it's like a NFL team playing a little league...

but then again, we wouldn't downgrade ours just to make it fair :lol:

xtwistedx
08-06-2005, 03:48 PM
didnt general patton say somethin about its now how fair it is but whoevers left standing?

anyways it almost looks like a training run. cuz honestly it looks like nuthings there at all.

charge
08-06-2005, 05:09 PM
still shitty that americans keep dying, its starting to seem more and more like a war cant win all that technology can't take out a bunch of people pissed they're getting killed

Just Spurplin
08-06-2005, 05:55 PM
still shitty that americans keep dying, its starting to seem more and more like a war cant win all that technology can't take out a bunch of people pissed they're getting killed

Just more proof that eaum should make people pass a literacy test before joining.

charge
08-06-2005, 06:29 PM
shut your hole. oh ya, nice picture

ilovehookers?
08-06-2005, 06:39 PM
I damn you do you no how hard it is to shut your hole

hey guys we all no that was computer animated THEY WERE JUS KILLIN SOME SPYWARE YOU PIG FUCKERS

:censor: :censor: :censor: :censor: :eek: :p

AntonioMainenti
08-06-2005, 07:48 PM
didnt general patton say somethin about its now how fair it is but whoevers left standing?"War is not about who is right, it's about who is left" - Bertrand Russell.

GhostDog
08-06-2005, 08:01 PM
AH-64 Apache baby... love those things sooo much

*those arn't 50's, thats a 20mm tri-barreled chin gun with explosive bullets...

rand0m
08-06-2005, 08:27 PM
What ever they where shooting at, it aint there anymore. Anyhow as the days go on, im starting to not give a shit about wether the Americans are shooting armed rebels or just civilian kids, Seriously America's freed them of a dictator who killed more people everyday, and not only shot them tortured them, half the population lived in fear. Then America comes along kicks Saddams butt and what do the Iraqies do to say thanks? They take a big shit on them in the form attacking them back.

Our only hope now is to create a giant satellite with a giant laser on it, point the laser at the middle East and the rest of those crap countries, and wait for an apache to come and blow them the fuck up. Im serious its the only way, unless we have a nuclear war, but nukes are expensive and theres always the chance mother nature will take yet another shit on us and blow the radioative cloud over the ocean and start up another problem of enviromentalists bitching about radiation killing all the fish.

Guy LeDouche
08-06-2005, 08:35 PM
Just more proof that eaum should make people pass a literacy test before joining.

seeing as you can not spell "eBaum" you shouldn't be talking now should you?

charge
08-06-2005, 10:36 PM
that fella named random, is he serious. my folks are from brazil and i have relatives who work in some of those mid-east countires, good job lots of money and he likes it. no need for bullshit like that, and obviously if they didnt lash out against a pussy like saddam, that means life wasnt as bad as it is with the states. who do you fear more, the u.s. army or that dick saddam? not trying to sound like a hippi or anything gay but was that piece of shit saddam ever really a threat to you? did you go to school thinking at any minute saddams troops might roll in? and never mind the few bad apples in the mid-east, i'm sure they're good people

Degsk3
08-07-2005, 01:34 AM
Not gonna get too political but ive researched the iraq war for my current historical studies class, just some quick points in reply to pplz comments,
1.America lied to the public and said iraq had a nuclear weapons project which in fact they didnt.
2. They said iraq were harbouring terroist. FALSE
3. They used 9/11 as an excuse to invade iraq which was wrong.
4. Attacked iraq for its oil (i had an interview with a oil truck driver in iraq makes $1000US a day btw) so its true that there pumping out oil which doesnt belong to them.
5.Went ahead and attacked a nation without the UN's consent thus breaking the yet another in which they try to protect.

Basically america does what they want when they want, Contradictsthe laws that they have written, re-writes laws and makes up laws on the spot to make them feel that what there doing is right.

Oh yeah the other point of civilians getting killed i got an archive of video's showing missile's and apache fire deliberatly shooting civilans, eg sniping and stealth kills from basically every weapon in the us arsenal directly aimed at civilans.

Also evidence of terroist attacks by US against there own ppl to conjure fear in the ppl as an excuse to carry out attacks on other nations.

And did a 747 really just go down in the woods by itself? and did a 747 really hit the pentagon? Ill leave that with u.

Americans are so smart yet they have ppl in the white house like that representing them?

KiLLeR07
08-07-2005, 01:53 AM
And did a 747 really just go down in the woods by itself? and did a 747 really hit the pentagon? Ill leave that with u.

Yes, a 747 DID go down in the woods by itself, I remember watching it on CNN the day it happened.

And don't believe that stupid cunt theory that a missile crashed into the Pentagon. It was in fact a plane.

Slothman
08-07-2005, 02:04 AM
Umm.. the civilians are Iraqis. Is English not your first language?

Actually, its not. I was born in lithuania. I only moved to the states a couple of years ago. As far as ive seen, i speak better english than some of you guys!

CubanSmuggler
08-07-2005, 04:00 AM
Not gonna get too political but ive researched the iraq war for my current historical studies class, just some quick points in reply to pplz comments,
1.America lied to the public and said iraq had a nuclear weapons project which in fact they didnt.
2. They said iraq were harbouring terroist. FALSE
3. They used 9/11 as an excuse to invade iraq which was wrong.
4. Attacked iraq for its oil (i had an interview with a oil truck driver in iraq makes $1000US a day btw) so its true that there pumping out oil which doesnt belong to them.
5.Went ahead and attacked a nation without the UN's consent thus breaking the yet another in which they try to protect.

Basically america does what they want when they want, Contradictsthe laws that they have written, re-writes laws and makes up laws on the spot to make them feel that what there doing is right.

Oh yeah the other point of civilians getting killed i got an archive of video's showing missile's and apache fire deliberatly shooting civilans, eg sniping and stealth kills from basically every weapon in the us arsenal directly aimed at civilans.

Also evidence of terroist attacks by US against there own ppl to conjure fear in the ppl as an excuse to carry out attacks on other nations.

And did a 747 really just go down in the woods by itself? and did a 747 really hit the pentagon? Ill leave that with u.

Americans are so smart yet they have ppl in the white house like that representing them?

I'm sure American soldiers shoot at civilians just for shits and giggles.

By the way, you lost all credibility with the last bit of conspiracy theory you fucktard.

(and learn to spell, you illiterate son of a bitch)

CubanSmuggler
08-07-2005, 04:06 AM
AH-64 Apache baby... love those things sooo much

*those arn't 50's, thats a 20mm tri-barreled chin gun with explosive bullets...

I apologize for not knowing my weapon ammunition like I should. I really should have went to gun college.

Degsk3
08-07-2005, 04:25 AM
I'm sure American soldiers shoot at civilians just for shits and giggles.

By the way, you lost all credibility with the last bit of conspiracy theory you fucktard.

(and learn to spell, you illiterate son of a bitch)

Oh they dont, all i need is 1 video clip out of an archive to prove you wrong, and also b4 you talk read the information under the video.

and about the conspiracy theory you dont have too look far for the truth u morons.

I rest my case.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410A.html

CubanSmuggler
08-07-2005, 05:13 AM
Oh they dont, all i need is 1 video clip out of an archive to prove you wrong, and also b4 you talk read the information under the video.

and about the conspiracy theory you dont have too look far for the truth u morons.

I rest my case.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410A.html

Actually the conspiracy theory bit was aimed at your comments about September 11th, you fucktard.

Just clearing that up for you.

And I'll believe that video when I see it on CNN.

rand0m
08-07-2005, 09:04 AM
Oh no American soliders killed some civilans, i thought i made it clear i dont care. Oh and that video link you posted, that look more like a mob than a group of civilans, and what causes a mob, an uprising, which would of been aimed at the Americans.

You talk as if the US army is actually in fact 1 individual hell bent on killing civilians. Picture it this way, every helicopter flown and every tank driven and every gun fired is done by and individual, on there own intention, you really think everyone of them is hell bent on killing civilans and has no morals at all?

Oh and you think US are the ones that kill civilans Read this (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/195acd75fc6f581bdcce5995bb5db7b4.htm) The americans have every right to be trigger happy.

Besides i think the US soliders have every right to shoot at what ever they want when ever they want. They have to take all this shit from Iraqies blowing them up, no matter how much they do to help them.

Oh you say America steals oil from Iraq, well its actually Buying the oil and pooring money into Iraq, all those police uniforms and weapons dont cost nothing.

MikeRyu
08-07-2005, 01:58 PM
Besides i think the US soliders have every right to shoot at what ever they want when ever they want.


That's pretty scary man.

charge
08-07-2005, 02:04 PM
the americans have the right to kill who ever they want eh? you'll beleive it when you see it on cnn? its dumbass's like you who are the problems, go out and educate yourself, don't limit yourself to cnn, because when you do, you say stupid shit like who cares if theykill civilians. and why don't you put yourself in a civilians position, would you still feel sorry for that poor american soldier in an f-16 bombing the civilians? your arguements are a pile of junk

specter191
08-07-2005, 04:27 PM
In case you all forgot, Iraqis never tried to harm any Americans prior to the invasion. It amazes me how surprised you all seem on cnn when you find out about anti american (usually more anti-bush I guess) protests all over the free world

AntonioMainenti
08-07-2005, 04:59 PM
In case you all forgot, Iraqis never tried to harm any Americans prior to the invasion. It amazes me how surprised you all seem on cnn when you find out about anti american (usually more anti-bush I guess) protests all over the free worldLoyalty is the quality that Bush value most in his friends, and ignorance is the quality that Bush and his friends value most among the voting public..

Edit: Maybe I should actually watch the video..

Edit: Damn, those are incredible, but think about how much money is put into this stuff. It's obscene.

CubanSmuggler
08-07-2005, 07:14 PM
In case you all forgot, Iraqis never tried to harm any Americans prior to the invasion. It amazes me how surprised you all seem on cnn when you find out about anti american (usually more anti-bush I guess) protests all over the free world

Operation: Desert Storm. (nothing special about it, just did it to disprove your first statement)

And I really wish all you foreigners (as I am from the United States) would get off your high fucking horse and come down to earth for a second. You all say Americans are the ones with the superiority complex (don't get me wrong, many Americans are like that), but when it comes down to it, you guys sit around "Oh Americans are so dumb! I hate America! We must be at least..THREE TIMES better than America." thus giving yourself the same view as you have for Americans amongst the American public. So seriously, cut the shit already, WE KNOW that you hate American, and WE KNOW that you disapprove of the war, but nothing you say on a damn Internet forum is going to change shit about American foreign policy. The more you hate us and think you're better than us, the more you fuel the flame for anti-world sentiment in America, only furthering the world cultural gap.

To clear up a past statement of mine, I said "I'll believe it when I see it on CNN." because CNN is a fact checking organization, they're not going to post a video from the Internet and say "OMG I SAW IT ON THE INTERNETS SO IT MUST BE TRUE!". That being said, there are always civilian casualties during war. World War II, Korea, Vietnam, all of them. It's not a matter of the national policy of the United States though, it comes down to one or two trigger happy dipshits (not to mention the accidental civilian casualties that occur) in the military, and you can't let that affect your view of the whole country.

pwned22
08-07-2005, 07:45 PM
Wow..what a thread..

There will always be war crimes going on in wars. We have war crimes going on(not saying that video was real or fake), but we deal with them.

Whoever said something about "Do you really think that was a 747 that went into the pentagon?" doesn't know what their talking about.

Bush got word from his 'people' and the United States Intelligence that they did have W.O.M.D. Saddam tested mustard gas on his own people, killing thousands.

There will always be civilian casualties..It's war..actually, it's not even a war. Bush couldn't get congress to allow war, se he just sent over some army troops. I'm not really going to say if this war is right or wrong. We went there to take Saddam out of power, we did it. Those Iraqis should stop attacking us, and everything will be good. We will never beat this "War on Terrorism", but as long as they attack us, we will stay. We wont back out, then we would look weak to other terrorists. They stop, we make Iraq better, we leave. Of course we will never completly leave..since we do keep some military in all places of the world, but most will be taken out.

Hmm..were taken Iraqs oil? Good..we need more. Gas is so expensive..We should get something out of making Iraq better. Many, many Iraqis like what we are doing, there is only a small percentage that doesn't like it.

I'm not saying were better than anyone else, but we do have it pretty good here. A powerful military, good jobs, we can have anything we want practically..America is a great country.

carnage
08-07-2005, 08:13 PM
Wow..what a thread..

There will always be war crimes going on in wars. We have war crimes going on(not saying that video was real or fake), but we deal with them.

Whoever said something about "Do you really think that was a 747 that went into the pentagon?" doesn't know what their talking about.

Bush got word from his 'people' and the United States Intelligence that they did have W.O.M.D. Saddam tested mustard gas on his own people, killing thousands.

There will always be civilian casualties..It's war..actually, it's not even a war. Bush couldn't get congress to allow war, se he just sent over some army troops. I'm not really going to say if this war is right or wrong. We went there to take Saddam out of power, we did it. Those Iraqis should stop attacking us, and everything will be good. We will never beat this "War on Terrorism", but as long as they attack us, we will stay. We wont back out, then we would look weak to other terrorists. They stop, we make Iraq better, we leave. Of course we will never completly leave..since we do keep some military in all places of the world, but most will be taken out.

Hmm..were taken Iraqs oil? Good..we need more. Gas is so expensive..We should get something out of making Iraq better. Many, many Iraqis like what we are doing, there is only a small percentage that doesn't like it.

I'm not saying were better than anyone else, but we do have it pretty good here. A powerful military, good jobs, we can have anything we want practically..America is a great country.

Reality>>>>>>>>>>>>>black hole>>>>>>>>>>>>>You

charge
08-07-2005, 09:15 PM
I am american, doesn't justify fucking around with other people. If saying this shit on the internet helps people realize that another side exists, then i think i did a good job. and if not then, can you get me an interview on cnn?
when i visited relatives just north of us in canada i saw stories different then in the states, stories american media might not want to put in, such as the details of how the Canadian soldiers were killed in afghanistan, and the slap on the wrist the soldiers received. lots of details were left out.Did they just decide to skip research, make shit up and fuck around because they hate the U.S? I doubt it, I think its because shit like cnn likes to show their side of it only. Don't get all pissed off, two sides exist i see where your comming from, that the scary Iraqis might come for us one day, but look deeper into it , you'll see that iraqis were no threat, so you change the subject quickly by saying that saddam used mustard gas on his people for no reason. Even if the mustard gas story you talk about was true, then I think we should load up the troops and head for Africa. What about sudan? what happened in Rwanda? It's pretty obvious which ones are the priorities or is the oil scarce?.

oh and i wasn't talking about you only smugglingcuban, killing two birds with the ol one stone.

Zooch
08-07-2005, 09:56 PM
Yes, a plane did go down in the woods. We know that because there were cell phone calls being made from people inside that plane. And a 747 did crash into the Pentagon. How do we know that? THERE'S A FUCKING SECURITY VIDEO OF THE PLANE!!!

Jesus, you people who think 9/11 was a consipiracy are the biggest fuck-tards on planet earth...

Microwavegerbil
08-08-2005, 12:45 AM
I like how once video evidence is shown for soldiers killing civilians the general response changes to: "So what? I don't care if they kill innocent people." That's a pretty sick way to think, that we should kill who we want, when we want. That just about defeats the purpose of removing Saddham in the first place....except for the oil.

CubanSmuggler
08-08-2005, 02:14 AM
oh and i wasn't talking about you only smugglingcuban, killing two birds with the ol one stone.

You, sir, did not kill my bird. Maybe the other guy's, but my bird lives on.

GhostDog
08-08-2005, 02:19 AM
I apologize for not knowing my weapon ammunition like I should. I really should have went to gun college.

Whoa, wasn't a insult man, I was just saying... Take it easy..

*btw don't double post*

CubanSmuggler
08-08-2005, 02:25 AM
Whoa, wasn't a insult man, I was just saying... Take it easy..

I was joking too.

Degsk3
08-08-2005, 06:01 AM
Good to hear that many agree with the arguments i put forth, i dont have to defend myself again to cuban coz the people have already spoken, and just go's to show how dumb you are by watching cnn and trying to defend the action in that video, i dont know a soldier can live with themselves doing something like that, it must be so satisfying pressing a button and blowing up civilians, lets see how tough he is going face to face and not a mile away.

Ill leave with two quotes;

"Do on to others as you would have do on to you"

&

"True power is the power to save lives not take them"

Maybe if they taught this in the army, they might not be so trigger happy.

rand0m
08-08-2005, 07:04 AM
the americans have the right to kill who ever they want eh? you'll beleive it when you see it on cnn? its dumbass's like you who are the problems, go out and educate yourself, don't limit yourself to cnn, because when you do, you say stupid shit like who cares if theykill civilians. and why don't you put yourself in a civilians position, would you still feel sorry for that poor american soldier in an f-16 bombing the civilians? your arguements are a pile of junk

I dont have CNN dipshit, and if i did then i would believe it cus as far as im concerned they (like the guy said) are a fact based media, not like the rest which are all bias fuckers. For example in the UK where i am, the channel 4 news team are the most 1 sided fuckers in the world, for example around the time when we caught saddam, they showed that in like 1 min then concentrated on a civilan who was Accidentally killed by supposidly americans soliders for like half an hour, concently trying to criticise every single fucking thing americas done.

Second you think constantly criticise america for killing civilians, so you ever heard of a fucking accident, american soliders arnt super men, they cant know for sure wether that person running at them is a suicide bomber or a frightened granny. Another article i would of liked to show you but its lost now, tells about how the Iraqies play up and lie, for example a rebel would be shooting at americans with his rifle, the americans see him and shoot him dead, another Iraq walks along not soon after sees the gun picks it up and starts shooting then runs away. Later on, oo what have we here an unarmed 'civilian' lets go revolt against america. Well i say fuck everyone who hates america, their not perfect, but at least there actually trying to stop global terror.

specter191
08-08-2005, 11:44 AM
And I really wish all you foreigners (as I am from the United States) would get off your high fucking horse and come down to earth for a second.

HOLY SHIT!!!! Are you fucking serious!? Hahahahaha! That has to be the most hypocritical thing I have ever read.

I dont have CNN dipshit, and if i did then i would believe it cus as far as im concerned they (like the guy said) are a fact based media, not like the rest which are all bias fuckers. For example in the UK where i am, the channel 4 news team are the most 1 sided fuckers in the world, for example around the time when we caught saddam, they showed that in like 1 min then concentrated on a civilan who was Accidentally killed by supposidly americans soliders for like half an hour, concently trying to criticise every single fucking thing americas done.

Second you think constantly criticise america for killing civilians, so you ever heard of a fucking accident, american soliders arnt super men, they cant know for sure wether that person running at them is a suicide bomber or a frightened granny. Another article i would of liked to show you but its lost now, tells about how the Iraqies play up and lie, for example a rebel would be shooting at americans with his rifle, the americans see him and shoot him dead, another Iraq walks along not soon after sees the gun picks it up and starts shooting then runs away. Later on, oo what have we here an unarmed 'civilian' lets go revolt against america. Well i say fuck everyone who hates america, their not perfect, but at least there actually trying to stop global terror.

If the states invaded my country I would go terrorist on them to, I think any country would retaliate.

charge
08-08-2005, 12:19 PM
So you say rand0m that cnn is fact based but the one in the uk isn't? How can you prove this? WHy is one news station accurate and the other innaccurate? And you start getting all pissed off you and the other guy and start calling me dipshit and then tell me not to get mad. I'm not mad and i don't give a shit. Obviously the Iraqis and other people don't see the U.s. side of things, you know the freedom and that shit. Can't you see why someone would shoot at the American SOLDIER, not an every day american, but the soldier? If a country invaded you promising to stop terrorism and took out half the country along with it, would you sit back and agree that its for the sake of our people and the rest of the world? You loose your house and family, will you still sit back and say thank God the Americans are here? Just like anyone else you're gonna loose it. And do you think its appropriate to involve 9/11 with killing some other guys for the hell of it?(not that you did but it was a strong argument to go to iraq) not a single one of the people involved were Iraqis i don;t think? Lots of Pakistanis and Iranians Suadis.. So why not go after Iran or Pakistan? ohhh because they actually do have wapons of mass destruction.

GhostDog
08-08-2005, 12:49 PM
Ill leave with two quotes;

"Do on to others as you would have do on to you"

&

"True power is the power to save lives not take them"

Maybe if they taught this in the army, they might not be so trigger happy.


Usually you say the name of the person who said it. Anyways they aren’t trigger happy, cause every once in a while they fail to correctly identify their targets. They aren’t wearing uniforms and driving clearly military personal vehicles. Typically it’s just someone skipping a checkpoint or breaking some short of rule like that.... So I’ll leave you with 1 quote...

"You're a homo" - Ponch

Caveman
08-08-2005, 12:59 PM
You people have once again caused baby Jesus to cry at night.

Thread closed.