2005/06 FA Premiership *Soccer* Thread [Archive]

James Bond 007

08-11-2005, 12:28 PM

With the new Premiership season just 2 days away I need to vent some of the excitment out here before I cream my self.

So who do you think will be champions?
Who do you think the surprise package will be?
Who are you looking forward to seeing?
How do you think your team will do?
Who do you fancy as top goalscorer?
Who are the certs to go down?

This is the thread for all things Premiership.

*Americans are welcome to post as long as its not more mindless "Soccer is a pussy sport", dont waste your time and everyone elses, we dont hijack NFL, NBA or your baseball threads*

Anyway Im seriously excited about Liverpool's chances this season with the players confidence done no end of good by becoming the European champions 2 months ago and with the exciting players Rafa has brought in over the summer.
I dont think we will win the Premiership bcoz I feel everyone is along way behind Chelski at the minute but I definatley feel we can push Man U and Arsenal for a top three finish.

I think Tottenham will be the surprise team this season, Martin Jol has made some very good signings including Edgar Davids and I think they will finish 5th and do very well in the cup competitions

Another team I fancy to have a good season are Manchester City, they have brought in some interesting players and I think they will upset a few teams this season.

I see the top 5 being:

1. CHELSEA
2. Man U
3. LIVERPOOL
4. ARSENAL
5. TOTTENHAM

The teams I think are goin down are Fulham, Wigan Athletic and Sunderland.

JarOfFlies

08-11-2005, 12:39 PM

I really hope Birmingham have a good season. Forssell's back now so he can bang in 100 goals if he wants. Seriously though, an improvent on last season would be awesome.

I honestly think Fulham will go down. Every season they sell one of their best players. Apart from this season, when they let two very good players go.

I'd bet on Utd winning the title too.

SUPER HESKEY!

Henkie

08-11-2005, 12:51 PM

I think Chelsea is going to win the title, they had a great team last season and they're just improving, they're just way ahead of the other clubs. Also, I think Tottenham are really going to do well, possibly qualifying for the CL next season. The other three contenders are more of a doubtcase, Liverpool does seem to have a lot of confidence, but I think it won't last too long and I even doubt if confidence is the thing they were lacking last season. Arsenal is even worse, hardly any good signings, and they lost their Captain, after a season which wasn't too brilliant to begin with. Manchester, on the other hand, have been able to get two decent extra players, Park and Van der Sar, which are great improvements as Giggs was getting old and Man Utd hasn't had a decent keeper since Schmeichel.

James Bond 007

08-11-2005, 12:52 PM

Yeah Forrsell is a class striker, I would have prefered Liverpool buy him than that lanky streak of piss Crouch.
Do you reckon theres any chance we can prize Upson away from Birmingham or has the ship sailed on that one?

Also I think Emile will have a good season and at 14-1 odds for him being in the England squad for next summers world cup it might be worth 20 quid.

I can see United pushing Chelscum alot harder this season but Chelscum are just at a different level, look at the strength in depth, United's starting 11 isnt exactly miles away from Chelscum (except the midfield) but if anything happens to any of them the players Fergie is looking at to bring on to replace them are average players.
Chelski's reserves would probably win the premiership.

jcthompson76

08-11-2005, 01:09 PM

It's your precious American Chelsea supporter checking in here:

So who do you think will be champions?
It will be Chelsea again with room to spare.

Who do you think the surprise package will be?
No one of Evertonian 04/05 achievements. I would like to see Arsenal totally f#ck it up this season though.
I think Liverpool will be the surprise given their shakey showings the last couple of seasons (in the Premier league mind you). I wouldn't put it past their current squad finishing 2nd with maybe a League or FA cup challenge. Also a good CL showing but I can't see them taking the trophy this time.

Who are you looking forward to seeing?
I'll approach this with the 2006 World Cup in mind. I would really like to see England take it this time (with Team USA the dark horse of course) so I'll be particularly interested in how Joe Cole and SW Phillips maintain the Chelsea wings. Lampard and Gerrard are set in midfield and with Gerrard's current CL stage performances, phew!!!, he's looking dynamite, just stay fit. I think Scott Parker may make a claim for England selection with Newcastle, again, if he stays healthy and delivers on his promise. I hope John Terry is auto selection for central defender ahead of Campbell so I hope he has another great season. I also hope Rooney has a strong season void of injury. He could make Michael Owen look second fiddle particularly with the Owen/Real Madrid quagmire.

How do you think your team will do?
Repeat Champions. Have you ever seen Chelsea repeat!?!?!

Who do you fancy as top goalscorer?
Cisse. I hope he has a dynamite season and looks it from the CL stage matches. To come back from that leg break as top scorer would just be tits.

Who are the certs to go down?
Fulham are gonners. I don't think West Ham are going to stay up. Their promotion was alot of luck I think. Sunderland will fall too.

bkalt

08-11-2005, 02:21 PM

do you guys think Shaun Wright-Phillips was worth $24 million from city?

.DC.

08-11-2005, 08:14 PM

I can't see anyone but Chelsea lifting the title again this season, they just look awesome, like 007 said, their squad depth is so much greater than anyone else, injuries to key players aren't the end of the world for them, as they'll just bring in someone of near equal quality!

I'm looking forward to seeing how Scott Parker and Emre fit into the Newcastle midfield. Were already swamped with midfielders but i think these are our best 2 now. Also interested to see how the defence holds up, Were notoriously shaky at the back and, fingers crossed, Boumsong will deliver the goods. However Im a little worried we got rid of 2 decent defenders to Pompey looking at our situation! As a Newcastle fan im used to being skeptical about our season ahead!! And its no diffrent this year, something is still missing, and i feel its a shame Shearer will probably still go out without a major trophy at the toon!

i also agree with jcthompson that Cisse will be top socrer, at least top 3. He looked sharp against CSKA, and having missed most of last season, has to prove he's still got it in him to score goals!

Don't know who's going down to be honest, 3 out of this 4 - fulham, sunderland (obv i'll be rooting for them 2 get relegated :p ), wigan & west ham.

Very nervous about the whipping were likely to get from Arsenal on sunday!! :banghead:
DC

JarOfFlies

08-12-2005, 06:53 AM

Prince_Vegeta

08-12-2005, 07:38 AM

I'm not really too bothered who wins the premier league this season (I feel Chelsea will retain the title though) as my attention will be on the bottom half of the table, being a West Ham fan.

Indeed, we have had fortune in getting to where we are (though one could argue we should never have been in the position to be relegated in the first place) and I just hope it can continue into the new season.

However, I'm not like some of the Hammers fans who demand and expect a great season. I'd be happy if we finished 17th - preferably ensuring our survival with a last day away win at the spuds! :D

Heres my predictions for the 05-06 season.

Champions: - Chelsea
Runners up: - Arsenal
Third place: - Man U
Fourth place - Liverpool

Relegated: -
18th - Fulham
19th - Wigan
20th - Sunderland

F.A Cup - Arsenal
League Cup - Liverpool

ciaran

08-12-2005, 07:50 AM

So who do you think will be champions?
Chelsea is the intelligant answer, but I think Arsenal will push them a lot further this season. I'm thinking it all depends on the youngsters ability to adapt to Vieiras loss, but I think Henry will be a better captain. He's 100% committed which is one thing Vieira never was. Finally with Henry, the youngsters can learn that there is no bigger club than the club you enjoy playing for. Hleb looks great in pre-season and Reyes scored a hat trick midweek. Charity shield was exactly that, a charity match. Try and test.

My top five are: Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or Utd (either could get 3rd. More likely utd I suppose, but I'd love it be Liverpool just to show other clubs it's not impossible to break into the big three). Tottenham fifth.

Who do you think the surprise package will be?
I don't they are a surprise anymore. Spurs have made some great signings. Have a super midfield, and added Davids. Have four quality strikers and a future England international centre half + england keeper. Looking good for them. Anything below fifth should be a disappointing season for Spurs.

Who are you looking forward to seeing?
Davids for Spurs. Hleb in the premiership. Crouch for Liverpool. McCarthy and Keane during Utd and Sunderland- first time since Saipan!!!

How do you think your team will do?
Arsenal are my team. 2nd, maybe 1st if players adapt to no vieira (which they did pretty well in pre-season), Reyes has a good year, and youngsters further develop. I'm excited!!!

Who do you fancy as top goalscorer?
Henry, without a doubt. Only injury can stop him.

Who are the certs to go down?
I never get this right. I presume Wigan- unable to attract any type of player. Fulham maybe as stated above. Sunderland might do ok. Played excellent football last season. West Ham might avoid drop. Villa need a massive striker signing to avoid a relegation battle.

It's pretty stupid to play anyone down until season has got well under way. People predicted a relegation battle for Everton last season.

Henkie

08-12-2005, 09:09 AM

I don't really have your faith in Arsenal, they have a lot of strength up front, but in defence and on the midfield they're not that strong, with Pires growing old and Vieira moving away. Also, I don't think Lehmann is that good a keeper, which, all together could make Arsenal very inconsistent.

MrDeliquent85

08-12-2005, 10:16 AM

So who do you think will be champions?
Chelsea are the obvious choice but I dont think it will be easy for them as everyone seems to think. Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool will all push them and with a couple of the right results here and there for any of those teams and we may see them top of the pops.

Who do you think the surprise package will be?
One of two teams.
Westham. I doubt they'll be european contenders in any form but for a newly promoted side, top 10 would be decent. If they can string a couple of wins together mid season, which I believe they will, they may find themselves up in the top half of the table.

Birmingham. They have done very well to establish themselves in the premiership and now that Bruce is attracting 'slightly' bigger names, he has himself a nice little squad going. Forssell, Pennant (if he can stay out of a car while pissed), Hesky, Butt, Upson and Melchiot can all play at a fairly high level and can push Birmingham into the top 6. Also look out for Njazi Kuqi. They also looked fairly good pre-season.

Who are you looking forward to seeing?
Park at Man U. Vaughan at Everton. Parker at Newcastle. Cicinho at Man U and Essien at Chelsea if they both arrive. Also Owen back in the premiership if it happens.

How do you think your team will do?
Man Utd. Top of the pops.

Who do you fancy as top goalscorer?
Henry. Van Nistelrooy. Cisse.

Who are the certs to go down?
Wigan. West Brom. Sunderland or possibly even Newcastle.

Newcastle have no strike force, Shearer is half injured at the moment and wont last 38 games even at full fitness, Ameobi is way to clumsy and Chopra is now out for a month, so they best hope they can get Owen before time runs out. The defense is one of the worst in the premiership and they have failed to bring anyone in. Without their young midfielders, they'd be fucked. Souness has fairly good odds of been the first premiership manager sacked, if your a betting man, I'd pop off to the bookies, I already have a £5 on it.

Also Wright-Phillips was NOT worth £24 mill but thats the way premiership team to premiership team transfers work, there always stupid amounts.

KakUMei

08-12-2005, 04:03 PM

Last summer I went up to Manchester and then over to Bolton to watch the opening premeirship game, they looked pretty damn good too.

I think they ended up like 5th or 6th last year, do they still have Jay Jay Okotcha? I dont know if they lost/gained anyone in FA or what.

The top couple teams wont change from last year IMO, Everton wont be as good.

MinOs

08-12-2005, 06:03 PM

I really hope Liverpool wins with scorers like Gerrard, Baros and my favorite keeper, Jerzy Dudek :bang:.
But the best team and obvious favorite here I do think will win, Chelsea.

samurai kebab

08-12-2005, 10:26 PM

I think Liverpool will get in the top three and Everton will never be able to do aswell as they did last season

I think Liverpool will win the league cup or FA cup but that could be a little bit of favouritism coming through

James Bond 007

08-13-2005, 07:25 AM

I think West Ham will stay up.

SWP worth 24mil??? By todays standards yes. I know the ridiculous money is supposed to be dying off now and we are supposedly gonna see less 25+ million signings but with teams like Chelski and Madrid around who can afford to spend 30 mil on one player the silly money will never dissappear.

Anyway Middlesbourgh away today for the european champions.... Lets ave it!

JarOfFlies

08-13-2005, 07:50 AM

Is Zenden playing against Boro?

Prince_Vegeta

08-13-2005, 08:37 AM

Is Zenden playing against Boro?

According to Skysports.com - Zenden has shaken off a thigh strain which saw him miss the game with CSKA Sofia and he is expected to be handed a starting role against Middlesbrough.

Just over two hours til West Ham's season kicks off! I cant wait!

Come on you Hammers! Lets be havin' those 3 points!

Henkie

08-13-2005, 12:33 PM

Man Utd started with a decent victory over Everton: 2-0, and even better is that after a bit of a dry patch Nistelrooij started scoring again, first in the qualifying-match for the CL and now against Everton.

Prince_Vegeta

08-13-2005, 01:09 PM

3-1 to the Hammers and joint top of the table at full-time! Goals for Sheringham, Reo-Coker and Etherington.

Warning to all Premiership defences... Yossi Benayoun is fucking quality! Made Blackburn look ordinary and two set-ups capped a fine debut for the Israeli!

A long, hard season still awaits us, but what a great start!

.DC.

08-13-2005, 02:18 PM

Congrats to West Ham!!! Bit surprised at the score to be honest but well done!!! :p
Wish Newcastle luck against the gooners tomorrow :help: !!!

Anybody seen Henry's goal against Weiz (i think thats what they were called :confused: )?? Holy crap, one of the most amazing finishes ive ever seen :bow:

OG_$tevie

08-13-2005, 03:58 PM

Chelsea definitely to win. West Ham should have a very good season especially after winning 3-1 today but also we didn't have a decent keeper all last year now we've got Carol. Our season would of been even better if we got the players we talked about gett Edgar Davids and Luis Figo but I doubted that from the start. Would of been nice though.

samurai kebab

08-13-2005, 04:21 PM

Liverpool just put the ball in the back of the net :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Oh well at least we didn't lose but we should have and deserved to win

James Bond 007

08-14-2005, 08:28 AM

Middlesbourgh is a tough place to go, not many teams will go up there and go home with 3 points. Atleast we didnt lose, its ok saying we were the better side and should have won but at the end of the day if you dont build on possession and put the ball in the back of the net then you dont deserve to win.
Bourgh didnt cause us any problems, I cant remember Pepe having to make a save but we just lacked abit of spark, I would have definatley started with Cisse in that 4-5-1 formation bcoz with his pace he could have got in behind the defense, not saying Morientes had a bad game its just I think you need pace if you are playing that formation.
Also I know he wanted Zenden to play bcoz it was against his old club but Riise should have played.

Anyway another North east team next, Sunderland at home, lets just hope we can get a good score against them, maybe 3-0.

Henkie

08-14-2005, 08:40 AM

Possibly you were the better team against Middlesbrough, but when you have strikers like Crouch, Cisse and Morientes, there's just no excuses for not being able to score once. Especially since they were playing with ten men, the last twenty minutes. I'm sorry, but that was not a performance of a European Champion or a title-contender and you've got to do better to win anything, this season.

James Bond 007

08-14-2005, 09:24 AM

Yeah I totaly agree Henkie but Middlesbourgh away is a bit of a bad game for Liverpool, there are just some teams who you struggle against for no know reason, Im not worried about that performance bcoz apart from not being able to hit the back of the net we played very well, I dont think scoring will be a problem for us this season with Cisse, Morientes, Crouch and possibly Owen this time next week, what we need to get sorted is our away form and like I said a draw against a team who historicaly we struggle against isnt a bad result.

JarOfFlies

08-14-2005, 11:26 AM

I'll just add that Birmingham have a good record against Liverpool in the Premiership :D

samurai kebab

08-14-2005, 01:36 PM

theres no point in morientes playing as a lone striker if none of the wingers are going to cross the ball.why was baros put on that pitch he is the most overated player i have ever seen playing for liverpool

I think we have more than enough good central midfielders and strikers what we need is another centre back(whats happening with milito) and a right winger.i'm happy with riise on the left but zenden should only be a substitute.

OG_$tevie

08-14-2005, 01:55 PM

Wigan look like they should have a good season after how they played against chelsea today. That must of been painful to draw the whole way and lose in the 92nd especially when they deserved it. That's happened to me before in a cup match.

.DC.

08-14-2005, 03:02 PM

I dont think scoring will be a problem for us this season with Cisse, Morientes, Crouch and possibly Owen this time next week,

Nooo, Owen will be at the toon! :lol:
Dissapointing result today against Arsenal, Jenas should never have been sent off, I feel that was a little harsh as it seems the ref had no clear view of it!! Also the penalty was probably a little harsh too however 95% of refs would have given it.
All in all not too worried, Emre and Parker looked pretty awesome, and the defence held up well. We really need another striker to help Shearer, he just aint got the legs for it anymore!

Liverpool were unlucky, definately the better side, Gerrard had a blinder - lets hope he maintains that form right through to Germany '06!!

DC

Prince_Vegeta

08-14-2005, 03:09 PM

Owen will be at the toon! :lol:

Lets hope that doesn't happen before the Hammers visit next weekend! ;)

Henkie

08-14-2005, 03:41 PM

theres no point in morientes playing as a lone striker if none of the wingers are going to cross the ball.
This comment just made me realise: Liverpool was indeed playing with one striker. The team that has Morientes, Crouch, Cisse and Baros (that's 4 quality strikers) is only playing with one. Why the hell did they buy Crouch and are they trying to get Owen if they're only going to play with one striker? You'ld say three players is enough to cover one position...

.DC.

08-14-2005, 03:54 PM

Lets hope that doesn't happen before the Hammers visit next weekend! ;)

Well we in no hurry to get him before you, its a chance for our reserves to look good for Souness :p

.DC.

08-14-2005, 04:03 PM

lots of red cards this weekend. i havent seen Jenas' yet, but Egihoug (sp?)'s i dont think was a red card, maybe a yellow, but definitely not a straight red.

Yea, Ehiogu's was debatable, however i don't think Southgate would have been able to get to him so therefore by the book Ehiogu had to go. The shot from behind shows he did clip him so I'll give the ref benefit of the doubt.
Dickov's was awful, hes a dirty player - 2 footed studs up shin height - lucky he only clipped the foot of the defender as he kicked it. Ambrose also was definate straight red!!
Refs are having a zero-tolerance approach this year...

DC

.DC.

08-14-2005, 04:13 PM

Reminds me of the good old days when i could actually get a ticket down at Pompey!!
Play up pompey, pompey play up became Fuck off Dickov! Dickov Fuck off!!
:D

Prince_Vegeta

08-14-2005, 04:55 PM

Well we in no hurry to get him before you, its a chance for our reserves to look good for Souness :p

Souness should be the one worried about looking good!

And you may as well play your reserves because your first team aint winning anything this season! :p

SupraTwinTurbo

08-14-2005, 08:27 PM

I think we should start up an ebaums fantasy football league. I can start one if you guys want. I just need to know if anyone is interested. Post if you are interested or not.

Prince_Vegeta

08-15-2005, 06:20 AM

Count me in.

mackem ftm

08-15-2005, 06:47 AM

ciaran

08-15-2005, 07:11 AM

I think we should start up an ebaums fantasy football league. I can start one if you guys want. I just need to know if anyone is interested. Post if you are interested or not.
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=85619 Everyone join it.

Arsenal were great yesterday. The only thing worrying me is there lack of a target man. This pass pass pass idea is great against smaller teams, but when teams play deep or if we play a very organised defense like Chelsea, we are in trouble.

Jenas decision was harsh in my opinion.

James Bond 007

08-15-2005, 08:06 AM

This comment just made me realise: Liverpool was indeed playing with one striker. The team that has Morientes, Crouch, Cisse and Baros (that's 4 quality strikers) is only playing with one. Why the hell did they buy Crouch and are they trying to get Owen if they're only going to play with one striker? You'ld say three players is enough to cover one position...
Its not a formation Benitez will stick with, I think it was just for that away game against Bourgh bcoz he was kinda hoping Bourgh would be a bit more positive and would try crossing the halfway line atleast two or three times and then we would break and score but it back fired as Bourgh were very negative.

Correct me if Im wrong but I think Benitez used the 4-5-1 formation to great effect in La Liga with Valencia with two wingers pushing forward creating a 4-3-3, I hope he doesnt use this formation with Liverpool too many times bcoz as I said if the team your playing is negative and refuses to push forward themselves you end up with a stalemate and the game ends in a frustrating 0-0.

Also Crouch (who is still injured) was only bought by Benitez to be brought on with maybe 10 minutes of the game left to try and change things (Carew-esc) with his height if the game isnt going our way. He didnt want Owen back but now he seems to have made more of a dramatic U-turn than Stevie G and decided he does want him and now we look firm favorites to have him back in the next week or two depending on Aston Villa coughing up atleast 6.5 million quid for Baros.

Mackem ftm, how did you change your name? Werent you AnnieStadiumD or summat like that yesterday?
Also I hope you are ready for a good pasting on Saturday when your lot visit Anfield. :D

-|-James-|-

08-15-2005, 08:10 AM

Who watched the Newcastle match Steve Bennett wat a fucking cunt :mad:

SupraTwinTurbo

08-15-2005, 03:53 PM

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=85619 Everyone join it.

Arsenal were great yesterday. The only thing worrying me is there lack of a target man. This pass pass pass idea is great against smaller teams, but when teams play deep or if we play a very organised defense like Chelsea, we are in trouble.

Jenas decision was harsh in my opinion.

...everyone that wants in on the fantasy league just go into ciaran2054's league. ya cunt

MrDeliquent85

08-16-2005, 09:50 AM

Jenas's red has been downgraded to yellow. After seeing it, I agree. Alot of dirty challenges over the weekend.

Good steady start from Man utd and not such a good start from Chelsea, lucky bastards.

Not too many surprises. Nice to see Gerrard on fire 4 days before an England game.

.DC.

08-16-2005, 10:09 AM

Yeah I think Bennett made tyhe right choice downgrading it.
I definately agree with refs clamping down on dirty challenges, as long as they dont suddenly get into waving cards at everyone for anything. Football is a contact sport - lets keep it that way!

Henkie

08-16-2005, 12:40 PM

I keep reaDING Essien has finally been bought by Chelsea, but the clubs themselves haven't announced anything yet on their sites. Do you think it's really happening, after all?

jcthompson76

08-16-2005, 01:53 PM

There is another slight delay in Essien being unveiled as a Chelsea player:

"Michael Essien's £26m move from Lyon to Chelsea has been delayed by paperwork, writes the BBC.
The Blues have agreed a £26m fee with the French club for the 22-year-old Ghana midfielder.

Essien needs to complete a medical before he can sign a five-year deal and so bring the summer's longest running transfer saga to an end.

That was expected to happen on Tuesday but Lyon failed to deliver the relevant paperwork in time so there will be one final delay before the deal is done. "

This looks like only a slight obstacle, much less than Aulas huffing and puffing about being underestimated.

I'd like to see Essien in action on a compilation or something and couldn't find anything on the net except for his accepting 'Player of the Year' for Ligue 1. That only showed him jumping a mile up for a slo-mo header and his acceptance. He seems like a very shy, reserved fellow.

JarOfFlies

08-16-2005, 03:54 PM

Birmingham are set to sign Jarosik!

Pfeife

08-17-2005, 07:05 PM

Denmark!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

will this game finally show the English media where their team really stands?

MrDeliquent85

08-17-2005, 08:32 PM

England played bad, it happens.

They took the Danes lightly and were punished. On paper we quite possibly have the best midfield in the world but they cant seem to click, am I the only one who thinks the Lampard and Gerrard duo doesnt work ?

James Bond 007

08-18-2005, 06:46 AM

Denmark!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

will this game finally show the English media where their team really stands?
You are a complete mong!

Most people I know including myself dont even watch England friendlies bcoz they are a joke! How can you have a friendly the first week into the new season?
Denmark wanted to win that game alot more than England did, infact only Gerrard and Rooney gave a good account of themselves, how can you win if 90% of your team isnt giving 100% and who can blame them? Do you think anyone would risk injury in a meaningless game?

England dont win friendlies, infact they embarrass the whole country with displays like the one last night but had that been an important game we would have won it without too many problems.

In the almost 5 years Eriksson has been England manager we have lost 2! COMPETATIVE matches and they were against Brazil and France and neither of those games we were outplayed, against France we conceded 2 goals in injury time and lost 2-1 after being the better side for 85 minutes.

I kinda feel sorry for Wales bcoz in 2 weeks time we play them in a game that actualy means something and I havent seen any newspapers today but the whole team apart from Gerrard and Rooney will be being slated so they will be stinging and I think Wales will be on the recieving end of a good hammering.

jcthompson76

08-18-2005, 09:25 AM

James Bond 007

08-18-2005, 10:08 AM

Are you counting their loss to Portugal that sent them out of Euro 2004 as a competitive loss, or a robbery (due to Campbell's disallowed goal)?

You may know better than I, but does this Owen for Cisse & Baros deal sound like it may really be in the cards

Does Cisse want to return to Ligue 1 cup-tied? Sounds iffy.
Firstly we didnt lose to Portugal, we drew and were beaten on penalties... The only reason we drew is bcoz a perfectly good goal was ruled out but we wont go into that again.
My point was England very rarely lose competative games... For fuck sake even Australia battered us 3-0 in a friendly IN ENGLAND not so long ago.

I havent heard of Cisse and Baros being offered for Owen.... I think you have your wires crossed somewhere.
Liverpool have said they want 6 million quid and Solano from Aston Villa in exchange for Baros.
Today its emerged that Lyon want Cisse, this has been laughed off by Liverpool though bcoz Lyon are supposedly thinking of 6 million for Cisse which is ridiculous and we have only had Cisse for one season of which he missed most of through a bad injury. Why would we consider selling Cisse?

Liverpool want Owen back but cant afford to buy him outright bcoz we only have limited funds left and the priority is a center back and a right sided midfielder.
Liverpool have said they will take Owen on loan for a season and then pay the 12 million Madrid want for him next season, Madrid want cash for him but unless Man U offer upwards of 10 million they might have to settle with loaning him out for a season.

Flankered

08-18-2005, 11:28 AM

god it felt good seeing denmark hitting 4 into england :bow: i cant stand it how they keep going on about how they can win the world cup.denmark arent a bad team but england will never match the likes of brazil and argentina

Henkie

08-18-2005, 01:02 PM

Obviously you can't win 'em all, but losing 4-1 to Denmark? Especially if you're suposed to have the strongest team in the world, you should be able to win that one on individual quality.

And on the Portugal-thingy: it was a doubtcase, Urs Meier could've let it go, but he was in his right to disallow the goal. You do have to realise that English referees allow a lot more on the pitch than your avarage continental one.

Pfeife

08-18-2005, 01:44 PM

You are a complete mong!

Most people I know including myself dont even watch England friendlies bcoz they are a joke! How can you have a friendly the first week into the new season?
Denmark wanted to win that game alot more than England did, infact only Gerrard and Rooney gave a good account of themselves, how can you win if 90% of your team isnt giving 100% and who can blame them? Do you think anyone would risk injury in a meaningless game?

England dont win friendlies, infact they embarrass the whole country with displays like the one last night but had that been an important game we would have won it without too many problems.

In the almost 5 years Eriksson has been England manager we have lost 2! COMPETATIVE matches and they were against Brazil and France and neither of those games we were outplayed, against France we conceded 2 goals in injury time and lost 2-1 after being the better side for 85 minutes.

I kinda feel sorry for Wales bcoz in 2 weeks time we play them in a game that actualy means something and I havent seen any newspapers today but the whole team apart from Gerrard and Rooney will be being slated so they will be stinging and I think Wales will be on the recieving end of a good hammering.

2 lost games in 5 years, eh?

You lost a game in Euro 2000, a qualification game vs Germany in 2001, vs Brazil in 2002 (allthough Ronaldinho was sent of the field due to a unjustified red card, England were not able to get even close to score a goal vs Brazil for 20 minutes), against France and Portugal in 2004 (it doesn´t matter if in penalties or not, you lost).
These are 5 lost competitive games, not 2.

And what makes you think that only England doesn´t take friendly games seriously?

These kind of games are a good possibility to try new tactis and experiment, if the English don´t care, why do they play these games in the first place?
And if the English play that much better in competitve games, why didn´t they win one single trophy for the past 40 years? And even the only fucking trophy you won, was won by fraud (I think I don´t have to explain this).

Wayne Rooney shot 11 goals in 29 Premiership league games last year, this is a decent quote, but surely not world class. Same for Owen: 13 goals in 36 games (though he came as a substiute in many games), not that impressive.
David Beckham? :lol: I think he scares noone.
And the goalkeeper is biggest joke of all, hardly one game without a big mistake (James and Robinson both suck).

Tell me please, with these weakpoints in the English team and these results over the past 40 (!!) years, how can the English fans be so arrogant to call themselves a "big favourite" to win the WC in 2006? Why don´t you try some modesty and restraint for the sake of variety? Didn´t you learn your lesson in the past years?

The top teams of the Premier league consist normally of at least 60% foreigners. If I ask a typical Liverpool fan what players of his team are the best, he will answer "Gerrard and Carragher of course!", not because these two are really the best, but simply because they are the only 2 English players in Liverpool that are worth to be mentioned.

This whole attitude just pisses me of, but I don´t want to start a fight now. We all will see what Englands team is really worth in 2006.
I predict that they won´t reach the semifinal.

ciaran

08-19-2005, 07:59 AM

Ok guys, predictions for the weekend comings Premiership action:

Man Utd v Aston Villa- I cannot see Villa beating or even drawing against United in Utds first home game. Villa still have too many problems of their own to pull out a shocker. I'll go Man U win, maybe 2-0.

Blackburn v Fulham- Fulham need a point here badly as they will be travelling to Highbury mid week and I doubt they will get anything there. Blackburn on the other hand are fresh off a 3-1 defeat against new boys West Ham, so they too need a result. I'll go for a draw, 2-2.

Bolton v Everton- Everton will really begin to get frustrated if they don't beat a great looking Bolton side, in my opinion. Champions League defeat, defeat against United, they need something here. But I don't think they can beat Bolton, who too are looking for an opening win. I think Bolton will get it 1-0.

Charlton v Wigan- Both teams will feel they had an ok start to the season. Wigan, almost holding Chelsea, Charlton showing how the premiership outclasses the championship with a 3-1 away to Sunderland. I think Charlton will win this one too, with goals to spare and hold their spot as leaders of the league for another day. Charlton to win 3-0.

Liverpool v Sunderland- Liverpool really looked disappointing against Middlesbro' and what better game to get their spirits high once more. I back Liverpool to do well this season, as in 4th place. And I think they will absolutely outclass Sunderland, who are about to spend life at the bottom of the league for a good few weeks. Liverpool 2-0.

Newcastle v West Ham- Newcastle did not need to start out against a team like Arsenal and really need to pick up a good run to keep Souness at the job. But I don't think it'll start against West Ham. The surprise package of the year will grab a point, and maybe deserve more. A score draw.

Tottenham v Middlesbrough- I think this will be a great game. Two teams fighting it out to try and break into the champions league spots. Spurs look good this season though. Strong squad, and a good opening win. Middlesbro' need a point here too, so it's not an uphill battle. But Spurs are looking so confident and Jol is doing great. I'm going to go for the rivals. Spurs to win by a goal.

West Brom v Portsmouth- A game I honestly can't call. Neither team will do great this season. Mid to low end of the table for both I think. It'll be a bit of a dog fight, and could go either way. Portsmouth need a point more, so I'll give them a chance. Draw.

Birmingham v Man City- I don't think it'll be a great season for city. They have not done much with the SWP's 24 million and need to strenghten their squad. Birmingham will win 2-1.

Chelsea v Arsenal- The big one. The only game this weekend that I really care about. Arsenal have a lot to prove against the champions, with Vieira gone can they still match the best of them? I think they can. Chelsea will too have a lot to prove. Almost held to Wigan? That's not the Mourinho way. I think Chelsea will look a lot more like Champions at the weekend and their defense is the exact type of defense that Arsenals passing moves cannot break down. A lucky break is all Henry need, and Drogba still has a lot to prove up front. Crespo got a cracker against Wigan, but that's Wigan. Has he adapted to the premiership? I think both defenses will look great. Henry will shine if he's given a chance, but will he get a chance? For me it will be the battle of the centre midfields. Makelele is great, but Gilberto is getting back to his best. I think A.Cole will get a lot of stick but will hold whoever is on his win, Robben or whoever. Cole has a lot to prove, and I think he'll come out trumps. Lauren could be a weakness, and Senderos looked weak against Drogba in community shield. But no, I've got to go with a good defensive performance from both sides and yet a goal looks enivetable. Could go either way, 1-1? Come on the Gunners!!!

What are your thoughts? Don't forget to update your teams for Fantasy Football.

-|-James-|-

08-19-2005, 08:09 AM

Man Utd v Aston Villa- 2-0

Blackburn v Fulham- 1-0

Bolton v Everton- 0-2

Charlton v Wigan- 1-0

Liverpool v Sunderland- 4-0

Newcastle v West Ham- 2-0 CUUUUUUM ON

Tottenham v Middlesbrough- 1-2

West Brom v Portsmouth- 1-1

Birmingham v Man City- 0-0

Chelsea v Arsenal- 2-1

MrDeliquent85

08-19-2005, 09:17 AM

2 lost games in 5 years, eh?

You lost a game in Euro 2000, a qualification game vs Germany in 2001, vs Brazil in 2002 (allthough Ronaldinho was sent of the field due to a unjustified red card, England were not able to get even close to score a goal vs Brazil for 20 minutes), against France and Portugal in 2004 (it doesn´t matter if in penalties or not, you lost).
These are 5 lost competitive games, not 2.

Germany + Brazil + Portugal + France = 4 losses, not 5. 1 game per year average.

Could you disagree that any of these teams are shit ?

And what makes you think that only England doesn´t take friendly games seriously?

Who said that ?

These kind of games are a good possibility to try new tactis and experiment, if the English don´t care, why do they play these games in the first place?
And if the English play that much better in competitve games, why didn´t they win one single trophy for the past 40 years? And even the only fucking trophy you won, was won by fraud (I think I don´t have to explain this).

66' was 39 years ago and please explain the "fraud".

Wayne Rooney shot 11 goals in 29 Premiership league games last year, this is a decent quote, but surely not world class. Same for Owen: 13 goals in 36 games (though he came as a substiute in many games), not that impressive.
David Beckham? :lol: I think he scares noone.
And the goalkeeper is biggest joke of all, hardly one game without a big mistake (James and Robinson both suck).

Rooney also scored 6 goals in 8 games for England last year. You cant judge Owen on club level, based on minutes on picture: to goal ratio, he was 2nd best in La Liga with only top scorer Forlan beating him and he hardly ever started. Say as you will about Beckham, he went from overrated to now underrated, yes, I did say that. Not only can he take an apple off your head from a good distance but when needed, he is one of the best grafters in the game. 2006 will also be his last chance real chance with England. Robinson is a good keeper but I'll give you James.

Tell me please, with these weakpoints in the English team and these results over the past 40 (!!) years, how can the English fans be so arrogant to call themselves a "big favourite" to win the WC in 2006? Why don´t you try some modesty and restraint for the sake of variety? Didn´t you learn your lesson in the past years?

A weak sub goalkeeper ? Is that the weakness you talk of ? Countries move on, what does 40, 30, 20 or even 10 years ago have to do with next year, noone that played back then plays now.

The top teams of the Premier league consist normally of at least 60% foreigners. If I ask a typical Liverpool fan what players of his team are the best, he will answer "Gerrard and Carragher of course!", not because these two are really the best, but simply because they are the only 2 English players in Liverpool that are worth to be mentioned.

Gerrard is one of the best midfielders in the world. Carragher isnt as good but he's a home town hero, of course there going to say his name.

This whole attitude just pisses me of, but I don´t want to start a fight now. We all will see what Englands team is really worth in 2006.
I predict that they won´t reach the semifinal.

The reason the country has high hopes is because not only do we have established stars but our youth is looking very good at the moment. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Read the bold in the quote.

Predictions :
Man Utd 3 -vs- 1 Villa
Blackburn 2 -vs- 1 Fulham
Charlton 1 -vs- 0 Wigan
Liverpool 3 -vs- 0 Sunderland
Newcastle 1 -vs- 1 Westham
Tottenham 2 -vs- 1 Middlesboro
Westbrom 1 -vs- 1 Portsmouth
Birmingham 2 -vs- 0 Man City
Bolton 2 -vs- 2 Everton
Chelsea 2 -vs- 2 Arsenal

James Bond 007

08-19-2005, 12:23 PM

Pfeife, if you read my post carefuly before you started having a shit fit you would have read we have only lost 2 games SINCE ERIKSSON HAS BEEN ENGLAND MANAGER you fuckwit.
We lost to Germany in the last game at Wembley in 2001 which was Kevin Keagan's last game as manager, we get Sven and have only lost 2 competative games since, ok if you wanna split hairs its 4 and a half years we have lost 2 games in and going back to the Portugal thing, I dont count that as a loss bcoz we didnt lose, the game was a draw and had to be settled with penalties, they didnt beat us in open play.

Henkie I totaly understand what you are saying about Urs Mier not letting the goal stand, the Premiership is a tough league and there is noway on earth that if that goal was scored in a league game it would have been dissallowed, I think thats why there was such a negative reaction towards the scum bag.

Predictions for the weekend:

* Manure 2 Villa 0
* Blackburn 2 Fulham 0
* Charlton 1 Wigan 0 (but who cares)
* Newcastle 2 The Hammers 1
* Spurs 3 Bourgh 2
* WBA 0 Pompey 0
* Brummies 1 City 2
* Chelscum 2 Gayboys 0

I dont predict Liverpool's games, I consider it bad luck bcoz a few years ago every time I went to the game and made a prediction we either lost or threw away a 2 goal lead and scrapped a draw.

Prince_Vegeta

08-19-2005, 12:27 PM

Newcastle v West Ham- 2-0 CUUUUUUM ON

Considering we have scored in all of our last 33 games (not including pre-season friendlies, in which we scored in every one) I'd be very surprised if the Toon got away with a clean sheet.

Moreover, considering you'll be playing with just one striker and both Emre and Dyer are out injured I'd also be surprised if you scored one goal let alone two!

Ah well, we'll just have to wait and see! ;)

Henkie

08-19-2005, 12:37 PM

But of those 33 matches, 32 were in the Championship, right? So that doesn't really mean that much when playing in the Premier League against Newcastle...

ciaran

08-19-2005, 04:01 PM

I dont count that as a loss bcoz we didnt lose, the game was a draw and had to be settled with penalties, they didnt beat us in open play.
That's a bit silly. Penalties are apart of football. I would count that a loss. Now don't grab my throat and ask for my money, cause I think since Erikson has come in, England are playing much better technical football. But he also inherited great young players who are really coming of age and are all world class. 9 of the 11 places pick themselves.

But you've got to count penalties as a loss. They beat you on penalties, therefore they beat you in football. If penalties were not apart of football, they'd have replays.

Prince_Vegeta

08-19-2005, 04:16 PM

But of those 33 matches, 32 were in the Championship, right? So that doesn't really mean that much when playing in the Premier League against Newcastle...

Regardless of the opposition, it is clear that us Hammers have become used to finding the back of the net. Indeed, the premiership is a step up, but, if last weekend is anything to go by, then why shouldn't we extend the run to 34?

Like I said in my original post, we'll just have to wait and see.

Quiet_Riot

08-19-2005, 04:29 PM

* Brummies 1 City 2

what he said. :bang:

Flankered

08-19-2005, 04:47 PM

Manure v Aston Villa - 4-0

Blackburn v Fulham - 1-1

Bolton v Everton - 2-1

Charlton v Wigan - 0-1

Liverpool v Mackems - 2-0

Newcastle v West Ham - 2-1 Shearer scoring a beast :)

Tottenham v Smoggies - 3-1

West Brom v Portsmouth - 1-1

Birmingham v Man City - 2-2

Chelski v Gooners - 1-1 Dunno if Michael Essien starts

ciaran

08-22-2005, 07:55 AM

Man Utd v Aston Villa-I'll go Man U win, maybe 2-0.
Blackburn v Fulham- I'll go for a draw, 2-2.
Bolton v Everton- I think Bolton will get it 1-0.
Charlton v Wigan- Charlton to win 3-0.
Liverpool v Sunderland- Liverpool 2-0.
Newcastle v West Ham- A score draw.
Tottenham v Middlesbrough- Spurs to win by a goal.
West Brom v Portsmouth- Draw.
Birmingham v Man City- Birmingham will win 2-1.
Chelsea v Arsenal- Could go either way, 1-1?

5/10 isn't great.

Thoughts on the weekends action?

Spurs look great. I really think they can last the pace, once King gets back. Jol has formed a very solid team that will not be a push over to anyone this season... except Arsenal.

Liverpool looked lacluster.
Newcastle are awful and in real trouble unless the find a striker before sept. Arsenal have problems up front.
Chelsea were no great shakes either and like I predicted, could have gone either way.

James Bond 007

08-22-2005, 01:01 PM

Yeah Newcastle and Arsenal defo need another striker (more so the Geordies) I just hope Liverpool can sort something out soon with Madrid for Owen before Wenger realises Owen would do a good job at Arsenal.

You said Liverpool were lacluster... I honestly dont think we were that bad, the first hour of the game was like the Alamo, Sunderland were hanging on for dear life, we just couldnt put the ball away and kill the game, maybe this result and the one against Bourgh on the opening day of the season will make Rafa, Rick Parry and David Moores realise that we need a proven goal hanger who can put the ball in the net *cough cough* Michael Owen.

What about those two Blackburn goals? Fuckin hell, the first is already gonna be a contender for goal of the season and the second one, the volley from Tugay wasnt bad neither.

Well the mighty reds have a break from league action now, our next two games have been post poned due to our busy schedule, our next league game is the 10th of September away at Spurs who as I predicted are flying.

Tomoz we play CSKA Sofia in the second leg of the champions league qualifier already leading 3-1 I think its just gonna be a case of turn up, dont take too many risks and just see the game out, I think it will be a pretty boring and low scoring game.
Then Friday we play CSKA Moscow for the European Super Cup in Monaco.

Henkie

08-22-2005, 03:55 PM

Arsenal have all the strenght up front they need, with Henry, Bergkamp, van Persie and Reyes. They need a central midfielder, and possibly a central defender. I don't know what Liverpool is looking for, but there is certainly something missing, but I don't think it's a striker. Maybe they just need a pair of balls, but I think a decent winger could work miracles for them.

I do think Tottenham are doing great, my compliments to Jol. Also, I'm impressed with Manchester United. They have a bit of trouble with finishing, but Nistelrooij seems to be getting his form back and both Park and van der Sar are adjusting nicely to the new club.

JarOfFlies

08-24-2005, 05:03 AM

James Bond 007

08-27-2005, 11:50 AM

Birmingham were horrible last night.

I'm really scared now, because they're 3rd from bottom.

Bruce has to go if they fail to win on Saturday. Not just for this seasons form, but for how bad they were last season aswell.
You got a good result today, by good result I mean getting 2 goals out of Heskey lol. The three points will help ease some of the pressure on Bruce's shoulders anyway.

JarOfFlies

08-27-2005, 01:16 PM

Phew!

Thank fuck for that.

They were excellent in the first half.

HESKEY!

djhardline

08-29-2005, 02:56 PM

Palace to go right back up :bang:

James Bond 007

08-30-2005, 08:34 AM

Andy Johnson staying was definatley a plus for you, I would have prefered him at Anfield than Crouch.
How have Palace started the new season, I know you struggled in your first couple of games.

Anyway, the main news today is Owen going to Newcastle for 16 million quid...
I cant believe none of the big 4 were interested, Newcastle's team looks pretty good now on paper, IMO they now just need someone to manage the team who knows how to get the best from his players.
What I have heard is Owen has signed a 4 year contract (subject to a medical) but with the option of leaving in a year if he wants. If Owen has a good season expect to see him back at Anfield for the 2006/07 season.

Pfeife

08-30-2005, 08:46 AM

Prince_Vegeta

08-30-2005, 08:55 AM

From what I gather, Liverpool wanted to pay Madrid somewhere in the region of 8m (Liverpool---->Madrid Owen fee). They supposedly weren't prepared to pay any more than Madrid had paid for Owen.

Newcastle, on the other hand are desperate for a striker and offered a 'ridiculous' amount for Owen to try and tempt Madrid to swing the transfer in their favour (appears it worked).

Onto Owen himself, the media seemed to be certain that he was hoping for a return to Anfield and that he would only be interested in a loan to Newcastle if Liverpool failed to make a bid. I'm guessing that Shearer, Souness and Shepard managed to convince him that he'd be better off at the toon than the kop (how they managed that is anyone's guess).

My personal belief is that Owen will surely score goals for them, but, he'd have been much better off trying to secure a move to one of the top four. In no uncertain terms, this is a step down in his career.

James Bond 007

08-30-2005, 09:16 AM

Hey James, as far as I know you're a Liverpool fan, could you tell me your opinion about Hamann? Because I'm a fan of th German NT and not sure if he deserves to play for it or not. In his last game for Germany he completly sucked and got taunted by German football press as "football-somnambulist".
Us scousers love Hamann, hes a class act, when hes playing it gives Gerrard the freedom to push forward more and he also gives 100% all the time but I feel he wont be with us much longer bcoz although he turned down a move to Bolton during the summer and signed a new contract with Liverpool the arrival of Momo Sissoko has push Didi down the pecking order so I think if Sam Alardyce comes in with another offer of a 2 year contract he might be tempted to take it.
I dont know what his international form is like but whenever he plays for Liverpool he never lets us down and we will miss him if he goes.

PrinceV, Owen was desperate to come back to Anfield but Liverpool simply couldnt afford him, from what I understand Liverpool said to Madrid we will take him onloan and pay in the region of £10,000,000 next season for him but the offer from Newcastle put an end to that bcoz Madrid need money to finance their bid to get Seville defender Sergio Ramos so Newcastle's bid was accepted.
Supposedly their is a clause in Owen's Newcastle contract that says he can leave next season if he wants to so I imagine if he has a good season this year, next season Liverpool representatives will be on the phone to him telling him to come home and I feel he will.
Lets face it, Owen has ambition, if he wants to win things he will have more chance playing for Liverpool than he will playing for the Geordies.

Henkie

08-30-2005, 02:04 PM

If he wants to win anything, he should try and get signed by Chelsea (they were still looking for a striker) or Man Utd, I don't see any other teams winning anything. Nothing big anyway, maybe the Uefacup and the FA-cup...

nederlandSETX

08-31-2005, 02:53 AM

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Henkie

08-31-2005, 06:22 PM

Flankered

09-02-2005, 01:59 PM

Do we have any Scottish people reading this? If so, do you know the leftback Micheal Ball? He used to play for the Rangers, but he got signed by PSV out of the clear blue (no stories, no rumours, no apparant interest what so ever) and I have never heard of him. Is he any good?

im scottish,he wasnt the best player for rangers but i havent seen him play for ages....he usually came on as a sub.he went from everton to rangers in 2001 for £6,500,000 which is quite alot
he won the league with them last season,he was going to join birmingham but when psv called he made up his mind..id say hes an alright player but theres nothing special about him...probably signed him on a free transfer

oh yeh and michael owen signed for newcastle,though i think it was his only choice :D

James Bond 007

09-03-2005, 08:37 AM

oh yeh and michael owen signed for newcastle,though i think it was his only choice :D
How do you as a Newcastle fan feel about the fact that the only reason Owen has become a magpie is bcoz Liverpool wouldnt have been able to finalise a deal within the time that was left?
Doesnt that make you feel you got him by default? Afterall, if Liverpool could have sorted a deal out in time he would have chosen Liverpool without a second thought, we are a bigger, more successful club with better fans and better chances of winning trophies.
Newcastle are basicaly Owen's Plan B.

He has only joined Newcastle bcoz he had no choice, it was either sit on the subs bench for Madrid for the next 4 months until the transfer window reopened and Liverpool could buy him or go and play regular football up in the Northeast.... In world cup year nobody can afford to be sat on the bench, it would have badly affected his chances of playing in Germany next year.

Canty

09-03-2005, 10:52 AM

Well maybe Newcastle will score a goal now.

Flankered

09-03-2005, 12:11 PM

How do you as a Newcastle fan feel about the fact that the only reason Owen has become a magpie is bcoz Liverpool wouldnt have been able to finalise a deal within the time that was left?
Doesnt that make you feel you got him by default? Afterall, if Liverpool could have sorted a deal out in time he would have chosen Liverpool without a second thought, we are a bigger, more successful club with better fans and better chances of winning trophies.
Newcastle are basicaly Owen's Plan B.

He has only joined Newcastle bcoz he had no choice, it was either sit on the subs bench for Madrid for the next 4 months until the transfer window reopened and Liverpool could buy him or go and play regular football up in the Northeast.... In world cup year nobody can afford to be sat on the bench, it would have badly affected his chances of playing in Germany next year.

i did say it was his only choice and it wasnt because liverpool didnt have time, it was because they didnt have the money for him.
Newcastle got rid of alot of players which gave them the money, woodgate to real madrid last season got them £15m and jenas got them £9m...bellamy,robert and o brian also left. they are a few others

he will still try though i dont think he will stay 4 years, but when newcastle play liverpool it will be alot closer than it usually is

James Bond 007

09-03-2005, 03:28 PM

Dont be daft, Liverpool could have afforded him if they realy wanted to, we got the best part of 30 million altogether for winning the European cup.
Alot of that money was spent on debts left to us by Houllier but if you think for one minute Liverpool couldnt scrape together 16 million from somewhere you must be mad.
Owen said only a week ago "Im not interested in a move to Newcastle, I will only consider going there on loan."
He was hoping Liverpool would sort out a deal before the transfer deadline but they couldnt. Im very pissed off and shocked at how Benitez and Rick Parry handled transfers during the transfer window.... We were linked with loads of quality players and didnt get a single one bcoz they either waited too long before trying to get a player (as with Owen) or wouldnt agree to paying what people wanted for a player.
Benitez said he wanted a right winger, a centre back and one or two others but bcoz of all the pissing about we now go into the season without the cover we need.

Canty

09-03-2005, 04:12 PM

I'll be happy if Own and Shearer play upfront together. Like old times...

*Wipes tear from eye*

James Bond 007

09-03-2005, 05:15 PM

I'll be happy if Own and Shearer play upfront together. Like old times...

*Wipes tear from eye*
Arent you a Wolves fan???

Canty

09-03-2005, 05:34 PM

I support Wolves but I like to see certain teams do well (Sheffield Wednesday, Chelsea *boo hiss* amongst others) and I want to see if Owen and Shearer still play well together like they did for England.

Sorry if that was unclear.

Blue25

09-03-2005, 06:09 PM

hey guys, i know this is a little off topic and i'm sorry but does anyone know where i can download or watch qualifings for world cup on the internet? is there such a place and are there any places where u can watch the games for free? i'd really appreciate all the help, thanx a lot guys!

Flankered

09-03-2005, 07:34 PM

James Bond 007

09-04-2005, 03:39 PM

liverpool can have peter crouch and Morientes, and newcastle can have shearer and owen....i know which strikers i would rather have
Yeah go bollox gypo! We'll see who finishes higher in the league wont we.
Newcastle have got some great players now, on paper they have one of the strongest starting 11s in the league, I cant believe the quality of players bought by you geordies in the last few months.

Morientes is class, we just need to play him in his proper position and in a formation he likes.... 4-5-1 with Nando upfront on his own is not what he wants, he hasnt got the pace to do that.
He needs to be playing behind Cisse. Nando and Cisse are top class strikers and as soon as Benitez finds a formation that works you will see just how good they both are.
I am gutted you got Owen and we didnt bcoz he will garuntee you 20+ this season and we could sure do with that but us scousers have faith in Benitez, he turned an average side into european champions so whatever he does is alright by me.

Blue Lightening

09-05-2005, 05:05 PM

Chelsea will probably win it, it wasnt realy close last year and they have only got better in the off-season. Im still baffled as to why they didnt flog crespo to AC, he is pretty useless in the prem (still better than drogba mind). thats thier only problem is they need a world class striker. they have all the money in the world and they still spend 24 million on sketchy foriegn players who are boarderline "good" let alone "world class".

Arsenal i hope do shit but im interested to see how the young ones cope in middfield without senegal...i mean...viera..ahem.
Hleb looks good too...

My team is Man U so i hope they can keep up with chelsea and hope for a slip up in their form. Im most looking forward to seeing how Ruud Ruud Ruud Ruuuuud does this season. i think cisse will have a good year but no golden boot just yet (especialy with teddy sheringham back in the prem :D ).

I think its been said a million times now but tottenham are realy looking good. if joll they can play as a team. they do have outstanding individual talent though.

i dont care who gets relegated/promoted as whoever comes up is just cannon fodder for us glazier bashers.

the geordie pansies are an interesting enigma. they are a bit like tottenham with all quality players but Greaham "the rage" souness* doesnt seem to have any strategy. kliuvert is the biggest wast of money since United bought forlan/veron.

I hope stuart pearce has a good year with man city. i know i shouldnt say that as a united suporter but i think they have a few decent players and are getting better every year.

Pfeife

09-07-2005, 10:24 PM

England - Northern Ireland 0:1.

It was a serious game this time where England fucked up.

What will be the excuse this time?

Henkie

09-08-2005, 06:50 AM

Ehm...

If they were honest the excuses would go like "We just suck, we can't help it...", but knowing the people around here it's more like "We rule, we just didn't care enough about this match or the World Cup to try and beat them, but we will win the World Cup"

James Bond 007

09-08-2005, 07:50 AM

Pfief why dont you go read the thread "Bye Sven", nobody is using excuses, we were shit, infact we have been playing shite for a few weeks now, there is no excuse for the way England are playing at the moment, we have some of the best players in the world but we cant beat Northern Ireland.... Something is wrong somewhere and you have to look at the manager, he doesnt show emotion, he sits on the bench just watching the game whilst Steve McClaren is jumping up and down on the side of the pitch screaming instructions at the players.
I honestly think Sven's time is up, he clearly has no plan B, the players arent motivated by him and he constantly picks strange formations and plays people out of position.

Blue Lightening

09-11-2005, 08:20 PM

Fucking Bastard Man City...GRRRRRRRRR :shout: :censor: :shout: :mad:

Prince_Vegeta

09-13-2005, 10:28 AM

Just a quick post to say.... WELL DONE YOU 'AMMERS!!!

Ha ha 4-0! Put that in your pipe and smoke it Villa! That hat-trick for the much maligned Harewood has shut a few people up and what a goal by the Israeli Diamond Benayoun!

Next up is an away trip to Fulham this Saturday, another performance like the one last night and we could have a very profitable return!

James Bond 007

09-13-2005, 01:52 PM

Im glad Benayoun scored... I have him in my dreamteam.

Only 5 days left now until Liverpool vs Man U.... Cant fookin wait, its gonna be proper bo! Like I have said I dont do predictions for Liverpool's games bcoz I think its bad luck but I will say it will be a tight game that could go either way and will only be won by 1 goal.

Quiet_Riot

09-13-2005, 02:25 PM

James Bond 007

09-18-2005, 02:40 PM

Well Liverpool vs Man U ended in a 0-0 stalemate with neither team threatening the other too many times in a cagey game.
Im getting realy concerened with Liverpool's lack of goals.... 4 games in and only 1 goal, the good thing is we arent conceding any, we are yet to let a goal in which I put down to Carragher's comanding performances and the fact we have a goal keeper who looks the buissness.

Congrats on Michael Owen for his first goal back in the Premiership *cough! cough! bastard!*

Anyway how did your teams do, were you robbed of all three points by a dodgey ref?

Quiet_Riot

09-18-2005, 03:41 PM

Anyway how did your teams do, were you robbed of all three points by a dodgey ref?

I just got back from City v Bolton, and we were robbed by a late penalty. No complaints, it was a penalty, but City dominated the game, hit the post/bar 6 times altogether. we played really well and bolton should count themselves very lucky to go away with all 3 points.

Prince_Vegeta

09-18-2005, 04:09 PM

Bolton should count themselves very lucky to go away with all 3 points.

And not for the first time this season *ahem* Upton Park *ahem*

Blue Lightening

09-18-2005, 04:21 PM

Anyway how did your teams do, were you robbed of all three points by a dodgey ref?

yes, we got robbed of points by a useless ref who gave everything to liverpiss...i havnt actualy seen any of the game but to draw with liverpiss is aweful and they must have been cheating...bastards injuring roy keane...grrrrr. 2 draws on the trot this is not looking good for the Red Devils.

.DC.

09-18-2005, 04:45 PM

Michael Owen's first goal for the club today!
Quite worrying for us that Charles N'Zogbia is our top scorer!

James Bond 007

09-19-2005, 08:48 AM

yes, we got robbed of points by a useless ref who gave everything to liverpiss...i havnt actualy seen any of the game but to draw with liverpiss is aweful and they must have been cheating...bastards injuring roy keane...grrrrr. 2 draws on the trot this is not looking good for the Red Devils.
Wo chu talkin bout Willis!!!
Liverpool and Manure games are always close games, the ref didnt give us all the decisions at all. It only looked that way bcoz that moaning red-faced-jock-cunt of a manager of yours expects preferential treatment like his team used to get in the 90s when refs would add 5 or 6 minutes at the end of a game with no stopages if Manure werent winning.
Everytime one of his pissant players hit the deck he was jumping up and down on the touchline like the ferret faced rat bastard he is.

Also congrats to Luis Garcia for breaking Keano's metatarsal, 2 months on the side lines for Manure's most important player.... Ave it!!!

samurai kebab

09-20-2005, 01:16 PM

I am not looking forward to this season for Liverpool judging by the start of the season.I mean seriously at this rate we could actually draw every game this season.

James Bond 007

09-20-2005, 03:06 PM

Dont worry about it Samurai, the goals will come... We arent conceding which is a big improvement on last season, a strong team is built on a strong defense, its no good being able to score goals if your conceding as many.

Henkie

09-20-2005, 06:37 PM

el hooligan

09-20-2005, 10:25 PM

James Bond i noticed u talking a lot of shit about Arsenal. Dont be talkin so much shit. we might be playing crappy at the moment but are still higher in the table than liverpool and we are clearly the better team in the premier league at least. But dont u worry, we WILL win Europe this year. i believe henry is back in 5 weeks which means he will only miss matchday 2 of the cl. Until then the arsenal will have to scrap for goals but we will get them they will come.

Henkie

09-21-2005, 06:09 AM

Sure you will, Hooly, nobody will be able to stop Arsenal this season...

Prince_Vegeta

09-21-2005, 07:12 AM

Sure you will, Hooly, nobody will be able to stop Arsenal this season...

Well, us Hammers are gonna, according to Alan Pardew, give it a good go on Saturday. This'll Probably turn out one of two ways...

1) We turn over Arsenal in a high-scoring game (3-2, 4-3 something like that)
2) We'll get trounced 6-0.

West Ham normally go for broke against the top teams so it should be an entertaining match whatever happens. (please not a drubbing, please!)

Also, on another note, I'd like to congratulate our fringe players for getting us into the Second Round of the Carling Cup though it was a bit sticky for a couple of minutes! Survival is definately the priority this season, but, a cup run would be a nice little bonus!

Oh oh.... and Well Done Grimsby for stuffing those SPUDS! :lol:

James Bond 007

09-21-2005, 08:19 AM

Though technically true, not conceding any goals still doesn't give Liverpool a whole lot of points. And the goals will come, statistically it's inevitable, the question is: when? If you don't start scoring really soon you've thrown the season before it even started.
I dont mean to sound defeatist but despite what Liverpool did last season I dont expect any improvments this year.
Chelsea will win the Premiership and Im pretty sure Manure will finish a close 2nd, Liverpool are basicaly aiming for 3rd place along with Arsenal.
Securing a champions league spot for next season is our main goal and once we have achieved that worry about how high we finish (4th, 3rd or even 2nd).
We havent improved the squad enough, we had the oportunity to strengthen during the summer transfer window but Rick Parry and Benitez fucked about too much and we ended up with nobody when we were assured we were getting 2 or 3 top class players.
Im very impressed with Momo Sissoko though, he looks shit hot and is already being compared to Viera by some.

It will be interesting to see what Benitez does with the domestic cup competitions this season... We were in the league cup final last season but Benitez made sure we didnt take part in the FA cup bcoz we had bigger fish to fry in europe, the first game of the FA cup last season he sent out basicaly the under 19s team away against Burnley and said "I dont care about the FA Cup, we have too many games as it is." We got dumped out by Burnley and Liverpool went mad, he got bollocked for that one so I doubt he'll do the same this year.

Our goal this season: Secure champions league football for next season, try and win the league cup and the FA cup and get as far as possible in europe.

ciaran

09-21-2005, 10:45 AM

Im pretty sure Manure will finish a close 2nd
I don't get it. United have done nothing to prove they are good enough for 2nd, 3rd or even 4th.

James Bond 007

09-21-2005, 10:55 AM

I don't get it. United have done nothing to prove they are good enough for 2nd, 3rd or even 4th.
Maybe not but they are a better side than Liverpool and Arsenal, give it a month or so and you will see the league start to take shape.

I will bet you right now that Manure finish 2nd.... I hope Im wrong and your right.

samurai kebab

09-21-2005, 11:00 AM

Well beside Man U who else is going to come 2nd,I don't think Liverpool will score enough this season i mean our forwards and right wingers just are not good enough and what have arsenal done thats so great this season.

I think it will go:Chelsea
Man U
Arsenal
Liverpool

el hooligan

09-21-2005, 10:18 PM

Sure you will, Hooly, nobody will be able to stop Arsenal this season...

Henkie, isnt that what i use to wipe my jizz with? Take that ya dutch bastard

Henkie

09-22-2005, 04:26 AM

Henkie, isnt that what i use to wipe my jizz with? Take that ya dutch bastard
That's sick, dude... Just use your little sister for that, like everyone else.

JarOfFlies

09-24-2005, 10:40 AM

I will settle for a 2-2 with Liverpool.

Damn Kilkenny!. He had to do it though!

James Bond 007

09-24-2005, 02:09 PM

Yet another draw for Liverpool... 5 games, 1 win 4 draws, atleast we have finaly scored from open play.
You Brummies did good today, well second half anyway and deserved your point.

Im getting more and more pissed off with Benitez's tactics though... No offence JarOfFlies but we should be playing 4-4-2 against the likes of Birmingham and mopping the floor with you. Why he insists on 4-5-1 is beyond me, it obviously doesnt work, ok he had success with that formation in Spain with Valencia bcoz alot of teams used the same system, also he had good wingers, in England 4-5-1 doesnt work!

Atleast those Manc twats got beat by Blackburn today, that has put a big smile on my face.

Nick is cool

09-24-2005, 02:18 PM

Prince_Vegeta

09-24-2005, 02:54 PM

Well its 7:00pm (better be quick, X-Factor is on in a bit!) and the Hammers are sitting pretty in third, granted its only on goal difference but we'll take it!

If you'd have asked me if I'd have taken a point from L'Arse at the start of the season I'd have readily settled for it, however, we bossed the game for long periods today and could actually count ourselves unlucky not to win.

Survival is still the first priority, but 3rd position after 6 games with 10 goals scored is a pretty shweet bonus thus far!

James Bond 007

09-24-2005, 03:46 PM

Hmm,thats a bullshit post, you came into the nfl thread and said shit.
I know, I did it deliberatley... People always come in the real football threads and say stupid redneck hillbilly things and I said it was realy annoying bcoz we dont hijack NFL/ padded rugby threads, I told everyone I was gonna go in and act like a prick. It made me laugh that about 2 or 3 people started crying "If you dont like it dont post in here".

PS Go fuck yourself!

Nick is cool

09-24-2005, 04:21 PM

Your a dumbass, all the shit you said made no sence, you went in there and tried to hijack the official nfl thread, and no one did that to the soccer so stfu.

Flankered

09-24-2005, 05:08 PM

Thats newcastle moved up to 11th :) Owen playing well which he could of had a hat trick and shearer should of scored a header in the first half but man city could have drawn

chelsea lead by something like 7 points with man yoo and gooners losing and drawing. sounds like the season is already over

James Bond 007

09-25-2005, 07:43 AM

Your a dumbass, all the shit you said made no sence, you went in there and tried to hijack the official nfl thread, and no one did that to the soccer so stfu.
Why dont you take time out from fucking your sister and actualy scroll through some of the football threads and see how many times redneck hillbillys like yourself have posted shit in them.

PS I hope your mum is dead or dying.

Burningnun

09-25-2005, 02:01 PM

Prince_Vegeta

09-25-2005, 02:24 PM

That makes me feel a lot better about not voting Prohibition :D .

Aww gimme a break man! I only watch the auditions for the lame acts!

In other news, I was very disappointed with Boro's performance today. How could they be beaten by Sunderland?!

Now those shitty mackems are gonna feel ultra confident about their next match, against my beloved Hammers. Damn you Boro, Damn you.

Blue Lightening

09-25-2005, 08:40 PM

anyone have any ideas as to what man U can do to sort out our season?

We create more chances week in week out than anyother club in the league but we just keep getting them about a foot wide. Van Nistlerooy still isnt looking as sharp as he was a few seasons ago. And with both of our wing backs and keano out injured we are realy stretched at the back at the moment.

Van D Sar has been pretty decent and that park kid looks the buisness but im still dissapointed with alan smiths performances for the club.

All our most influencial players are coming to the end of thier careers (scholes, giggs, keane) and its hard to see who we have (other than rooney) who will realy step up and lead the team rather than just trying to perform well for Fergie.

Maybe im over reacting but as a proud Man U fan im not used to going for more than 2 games without a win.

James Bond 007

09-26-2005, 07:41 AM

What Manure can do to turn their season around is get Alex Ferguson and bitch slap the arrogant red faced jock bastard.
That guy needs a reality check, he rests players bcoz he thinks they are good enough to do that, Manure havent got good enough players to do that, Chelscum can rest players for games against "lesser teams" with an eye on europe bcoz they have a massive squad of quality players, Manure's strongest 11 is as good as anyones but they dont have a good squad, Manure's bench is average at best.

Ok so you have had a bit of bad luck with injuries but Liverpool had it worse last season, we had to borrow a goalkeeper off Southampton and had all of our main players out for long periods of time but we were in the league cup final and we won the European cup so dont cry about injuries to me.

Also I dont know how you can say anything about that horse-faced twat Rudd, hasnt he scored in every game for you scum this season? I wouldnt mind an ugly dutchman playing for Liverpool if he was scoring week in week out even if it meant large chunks of Anfield's haloed turf was being grazed or the clubs expenditures on sugar cubes went through the roof.

Alan Smith is ok, hes been played out of position though, Fergie is trying to mould him into the next Roy Keane for when the mick bastard retires in a year or two but he wont be able to fill Keane's boots.

MrDeliquent85

09-26-2005, 02:00 PM

Smith will never replace Keane, Fergie is thick as fuck if he thinks that. Smith's an out and out aggressive striker who plays good box football, he hustles for the ball, turns well and is good in the air. His passing isnt that great, he doesnt have a creative mind, tackles sloppy and doesnt have influence. He's a sub striker at Man Utd at best, at the moment. He has potential to be great up front but not if he keeps getting a defensive midfield role.

Man utd need to stop resting players, play with their best and keep that same team. Last time we were rotating the team so much, we turned shit and were losing points all over the place. We need to establish the first 11 and run with it until we have an injury and then start making changes. If Keane cant last all the games then maybe we should look it to playing Fletcher in the middle with Scholes, Ronaldo right and get Giggs or Richardson on the left.

Why Rooney was sub against Blackburn is fucking beyond me.

Thomson

09-27-2005, 02:34 PM

man-u going down bitch

Easy

09-27-2005, 03:01 PM

Rio isn't suited to Man U. He doesn't have the urgency and it rubs off on other players. Sell him and get a rock-hard, inspirational centre-back.

If you'd have asked me if I'd have taken a point from L'Arse at the start of the season I'd have readily settled for it, however, we bossed the game for long periods today and could actually count ourselves unlucky not to win.
I was actually a bit down after Zamora's miss because we should have won it. We were in control for most of the game.

Prince_Vegeta

09-27-2005, 03:13 PM

I was actually a bit down after Zamora's miss because we should have won it. We were in control for most of the game.

We sure were.

Ah well, we'll just have to bang four in against Sunderland. And we'll still probably get only 10 seconds of coverage on MOTD.

Fucking Chelscum suck-ups. I'm looking at you Hansen!

alexisonfire

09-28-2005, 07:46 PM

I just wanna remind everyone that did the Premiership Fantasy league thing about how awesome I am, with my huge, over 100 point lead already...yes, I'm really this good.

MrDeliquent85

09-30-2005, 01:56 PM

man-u going down bitch

Shut your hole, cunt.

Keane is to quit United at the end of the season. I will be disappointed that his era has come to an end but he doesnt have it any more and its pointless pretending he has. I'm confident that Fletcher can temp fill the role but I doubt that he can in the long run, more so when Scholes finishes too. Center mid will be our next big problem but hopefully we have an a eye on a long term replacement already.

Prince_Vegeta

09-30-2005, 02:47 PM

How's this for a sign of confidence... my local pub is holding a bubble blowing party after the West Ham/ Sunderland game. Talk about confident!

Now watch us go and get a royal pasting by the worst team to ever exist in the Premiership. :(

Easy

10-01-2005, 03:44 PM

^^^^ 1-1
Nice comeback after changing to 3-5-2 with 30 mins to go. Newton and Konchesky took up the wings with Benayoun just behind the front 2. Got a goal and looked better for the rest of the game.

Reps to Pardew for tactical awareness and the whole team for beating out a result.

James Bond 007

10-02-2005, 03:13 PM

Chelsea have tonight proved that they are in a different league to everyone else... Liverpool 1 Chelsea 4.... 4!!!!!!
Nobody scores 4 against Liverpool at home. The score line was a bit flattering, for those of you who didnt see the game you will think Chelsea won the game easily but it was a very close game, both teams had chances but Chelsea seemed to score every time they went up the field underlining why they are the champions and why after only 8 Premiership games some bookies are actualy paying out to people who put bets on Chelsea winning the league.
Riise sent a shot at about the speed of sound agonisingly just over and Peter Crouch had a great chance to pull the game back to 3-2 but missed.
Im not being biased realy Im not but on another day that game would have been a draw.
Drogba (who is £24,000,000 of shit) played the best game of his life tonight and ultimatley was the difference between the two sides.

4-1.... I cant believe it, Im just in shock.

Henkie

10-02-2005, 06:16 PM

The CL-match was a clear draw, today Chelsea was far superior. 4-1 might have been slightly flattered, but this would never become a draw, unless someone started bribing people.

JarOfFlies

10-02-2005, 08:18 PM

Damn you Van Persie!

Ruined Taylor's day, the bastard.

MrDeliquent85

10-03-2005, 09:16 AM

Chelsea have tonight proved that they are in a different league to everyone else... Liverpool 1 Chelsea 4

I disagree. Two well taken goals made them look better than they were, I'd even go as far as to say Liverpool deserved a draw, Chelsea just capatialise on they're attacks better.

I cant believe everyone thinks Chelsea have the league already, there are alot of hard games to come and I can see one or two teams giving Chelsea problems.

James Bond 007

10-03-2005, 01:12 PM

I agree with you MrD, Chelsea didnt totaly outclass us, it was a close game, Chelsea deserved the win but Im just gutted at the way they won the game. Liverpool havent conceded 4 at home in 36 years.
Chelsea are easily the best team in this country, theres no doubt in my mind they will win the Premiership again this season, there is only Manure that might push them all the way.

Bookies paying out on the blue scum already though is just ridiculous, there are 30 games left to play (32 for Liverpool) I think its just a publicity stunt. Remember a few years ago it looked like Arsenal would win the league easily and bookies payed out in January and Manure ended up coming back and winning the league?

Henkie

10-03-2005, 01:35 PM

Ah, come on...

Liverpool wasn't left entirly without chances, but Chelsea clearly was the better team on Sunday, that win was fully deserved.

Flankered

10-03-2005, 06:37 PM

I watched the second half cause there was actually some goals, chelski probably were the better team but didnt deserve 4 -1. I get the feeling gerrard is gonna leave

Pissed me off when drogba started waving a card to get a player booked...hope he breaks his leg

MrDeliquent85

10-04-2005, 12:36 AM

Bookies paying out on the blue scum already though is just ridiculous, there are 30 games left to play (32 for Liverpool) I think its just a publicity stunt. Remember a few years ago it looked like Arsenal would win the league easily and bookies payed out in January and Manure ended up coming back and winning the league?

As a Man utd fan, I never say never, I remember Newcastles christmas 15 point lead and them showing what can happen to an in form team. Not that Im comparing Newcastle and Chelsea but thats how unpredictable the premiership can be.

Oh yeah Bond, who were the team that last scored 4 at Anfield ? :D

Henkie

10-24-2005, 07:11 AM

Chelsea lost two points against Everton! Un-fucking-believable!

James Bond 007

10-24-2005, 07:51 AM

Yea, they loose their 100% record to the team at the bottom of the league lol.
They were a bit unlucky, Drogba scored a perfectly good goal that for reasons only the linesman knows was given as offside.

Liverpool did themselves proud again at the weekend.... Losing 2-0 to fuckin Fulham! :banghead:
Our amazing start to the season continues - Played 8, won 2, drawn 4, lost 2 (10 points from 8 games)

Its so fuckin frustrating, we are one of the worst teams in the Premiership but give us a cup game especialy in europe and we look a different team.

We had better win the european cup again this season bcoz if we dont we definatly wont be playing in europe next season, at the rate we are going I will take 7th place in the league so we can atleast get into the UEFA cup.

Blue Lightening

10-24-2005, 11:37 AM

its still far too open to say liverpiss are not going to qualify for europe. They are undoubtably struggling but then so is almost every other team in the premiership. Chealsea is the only team that isnt. i think by the end of the season it will work its self out and i think liverpool will be in 4th or 5th. Its far too early to be realy worried about them.

ciaran

10-24-2005, 12:22 PM

Anyone catch that super Pires penalty? What class...

Prince_Vegeta

10-24-2005, 02:05 PM

Anyone catch that super Pires penalty? What class...

Henry admitted that he had suggested to Pires to pass the ball to him so he could tap it in just like Cryuff did for Ajax in the 80's.

I could understand if the Gunners were 4-0 up and wanted to try something like that, but, with the game so close score-wise it could have been a very foolhardy thing to do.

However, they still won, so no harm done I guess... except to Pires' ego. :D

samurai kebab

10-24-2005, 07:13 PM

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I was at Craven cottage this weekend and let me tell you it was a load of bollocks,I think we should have won the match we completly outplayed them in the second half and if the only thing you watched was the MOTD highlights they didn't really show what the match was like.

James Bond 007

10-31-2005, 09:14 AM

Great result at the weekend.... Liverpool put on a performance like we havent seen in the Premiership for months from the red men beating Westham 2-0 (should have been about 4-0) and those Munich scum from down the road got a good hammering off Middlesbrough.

Good times.

May I be the first to congratulate Chelsea on retaining their title, something only Liverpool and Manure have been able to do.

How did your team do at the weekend or how do you think your team will do tonight if your a City or Villa fan?

jcthompson76

10-31-2005, 12:08 PM

Good on Liverpool, they needed that win. I liked Zenden's cracker of a goal. Looked for a second that it rocked out off the goalpost instead of back and in. Why was Alonso credited with that goal. Deflection? Looked like West Ham's defender nodded it into his own.

Chelsea still look the sh!t and Blackburn are dirty motherf#ckers. 19 fouls to Chelsea's 9? WTF?!?!?

Owen's brace was nice to see for Newcastle. I think they will be on the up and up with their injuries on the mend.

Bufoon of the week goes to Rio Ferdinand. His blunders on the second and fourth goals were sad. I've played better defense drunk. Chelsea may hand United their asses next week if that's the best their offence and defense can exhibit.

Wigan in second place, who'd of thunk it?

Henkie

10-31-2005, 07:02 PM

What's really surprised me is the downfall of United, until a couple of matches ago they were the only team that might be able to stop Chelsea this season, and now they're 7th. I wasn't expecting too much of Arsenal and Liverpool this season anyway (it's true, look at my first post in this thread), so their positions don't really surprise me. And well, obviously Wigan is surprising and Manchester City, imo, is doing pretty good aswell.

Quiet_Riot

11-01-2005, 06:01 PM

City were good last night, i was there.

we had a shaky 15 minutes in the second half, and obviously let them score one, but other than that, we looked good, and never really looked like losing.

Good half time entertainment too, it was part of a new initiative for local schools, they had about 100 kids doing a hallowe'en dance, which lasted pretty much all of the half time break..i was impressed.

MrDeliquent85

11-07-2005, 07:30 AM

1 - 0. Fan fucking tastic. Up the United.

Whats that now ?, only 1 win in 5 for Chelsea. Oh dear, how my heart bleeds.

Although the result was everything we needed to lift our season, thats not what impressed me but the performance (esp the first half).

Smith was great, real passionate. I have been the biggest critic of him playing the holding role and still have many doubts but his performance has edged me alittle towards believing he may beable to do it.

We still lack quality in places but with the right results and Chelsea up against Liverpool and Newcastle over their next few games, you just never know.

Quiet_Riot

11-07-2005, 07:11 PM

Smith was great, real passionate. I have been the biggest critic of him playing the holding role and still have many doubts but his performance has edged me alittle towards believing he may beable to do it.

Smith was good, but i think he was the only united layer that impressed. Chelsea weren't great, but i think united did well (and had a little luck) to hold on when they were under pressure for most of the 2nd half.

MrDeliquent85

11-08-2005, 12:51 PM

Smith was good, but i think he was the only united layer that impressed. Chelsea weren't great, but i think united did well (and had a little luck) to hold on when they were under pressure for most of the 2nd half.

Sadly I kinda agree, we're certainly not out of the forrest of shit just yet.

Scholes and Smith were vital and the main reason we won. Not only was Smith on top of his game and alittle of that great passing that we used to see from Scholes was back but they won every battle in the middle of the park. Lampard and Essein werent really involved at all in the first half.

Of course Ronaldo and Rooney showed the glimpses of magic we now expect from them and it put alot on the Chelsea back four. We defiently deserved the win as it was a great performance (for the first 60) but we still need the composure and passing that once made us the best team in the country by a mile.

Quiet_Riot

11-08-2005, 03:11 PM

Scholes and Smith were vital and the main reason we won. Not only was Smith on top of his game and alittle of that great passing that we used to see from Scholes was back but they won every battle in the middle of the park. Lampard and Essein werent really involved at all in the first half.

For me, Smith said "yeah, i can be roy keane" in that game, so he got himself booked? but he put in mean tackles on lampard, essien and terry, which is what united really need in the middle of the park.

Quiet_Riot

12-03-2005, 09:26 AM

HA! Crouch just scored his first goal for liverpool, it took a major deflection, then hit the bar, then the keeper before going in.

lucky lanky piece of shit.

Blue Lightening

12-03-2005, 01:03 PM

HA! Crouch just scored his first goal for liverpool, it took a major deflection, then hit the bar, then the keeper before going in.

lucky lanky piece of shit.

wasnt that the one that was credited as an own goal afterwards...still he did score again later...

MrDeliquent85

12-03-2005, 01:46 PM

HA! Crouch just scored his first goal for liverpool, it took a major deflection, then hit the bar, then the keeper before going in.

lucky lanky piece of shit.

I was at Sunderland - Liverpool on wednesday and they started with the "he's big, he's red, his feet hang out of bed, peter crouch" chants. I tried to start the "he's big, he's red, his feet are made of lead, peter crouch" chant but it never took off, the boring quiet mackem cunts.

Bolton 2 - 0 Arsenal. I love you big sam.

Edit: 1 - 0 United. Come on scholes, you ginger cunt, I fucking love you too.

Quiet_Riot

12-03-2005, 02:08 PM

wasnt that the one that was credited as an own goal afterwards...still he did score again later...

I think he still claimed it, but the bookmakers weren't paying out on that being his first goal.

but his "2nd" made it obsolete anyway.

James Bond 007

12-04-2005, 09:24 AM

Hey Mr.D what were you doing at Sunderland vs Liverpool?

Anyway Liverpool are finaly showing title contending form at last and havent conceded a goal in 7 games, I still think Chelscum will win the league but aslong as Liverpool are there or there abouts at the end of the season I'll be happy, last season was a disgrace finishing over 30 points behind the blue twats.

Blue Lightening

12-04-2005, 11:45 AM

Canty

12-04-2005, 02:05 PM

Hey Mr.D what were you doing at Sunderland vs Liverpool?

Anyway Liverpool are finaly showing title contending form at last and havent conceded a goal in 7 games

I wouldn't say beating teams like Wigan, Sunderland, Man City, Aston Villa etc means your going to win the league.

Hardly the best teams are they?

James Bond 007

12-04-2005, 04:09 PM

Did I say we would win the league nob head???

You still have to beat the "lesser" teams which has been Liverpool's problem over recent seasons, we generaly do ok against the big teams, its teams like City and Villa where we usualy let ourselves down.
We havent conceded a goal in 7 games in all competitions and we are doing well, I dont think for one minute we will win the league as Chelsea, Arsenal and United are stronger than us, all I want is the same as every Liverpool fan and thats signs of progress which is exactly what we are seeing.

I honestly believe we can finish higher than 4th, how high depends on whether or not we can keep this run of form going.

We are playing well at the minute and as long as we keep it up then theres no limit to what we can do, we are a far better side now than we were last season and last season we won the biggest prize in club football.

By the way what have Wolves won in the last 50 years???

Quiet_Riot

12-05-2005, 12:11 PM

its teams like City and Villa where we usualy let ourselves down.

meh, y'all were lucky against city last week!

MrDeliquent85

12-05-2005, 09:14 PM

Hey Mr.D what were you doing at Sunderland vs Liverpool?

The girlfriends grandad's a mackem, we took him for his birthday. He was more excited to see Liverpool than Sunderland.

The game was alright, Sunderland enjoyed alot of the ball second half but just didnt/dont have any quality up front and Liverpool deserved the win. The traveling fans were good and it was fun to be a neutral at a game. I was kinda hoping you lot would lose but I couldnt see it from kick off so I just sat back and enjoyed the game.

I'm hoping to get tickets for United - Liverpool, should be a great game if both teams can keep up their recent form and will be a pleasure to be apart of the atmosphere as always in this game. Chances of tickets are getting slimmer but I hope to be there.

Blue Lightening

12-05-2005, 09:19 PM

The girlfriends grandad's a mackem, we took him for his birthday. He was more excited to see Liverpool than Sunderland.

The game was alright, Sunderland enjoyed alot of the ball second half but just didnt/dont have any quality up front and Liverpool deserved the win. The traveling fans were good and it was fun to be a neutral at a game. I was kinda hoping you lot would lose but I couldnt see it from kick off so I just sat back and enjoyed the game.

I'm hoping to get tickets for United - Liverpool, should be a great game if both teams can keep up their recent form and will be a pleasure to be apart of the atmosphere as always in this game. Chances of tickets are getting slimmer but I hope to be there.

you'll be lucky as hell to go see that one...where is it being played...OT?

i didnt know you were a united fan while i was arguing you, then i would have forgiven you...:idea:

Henkie

12-19-2005, 06:01 AM

Chelsea is now really going to win the league: 0-2 against Arsenal. It might all have gone different if van Persie's goal had been allowed, but other than that, there's no discussing about who was the better team: Chelsea.

James Bond 007

12-19-2005, 10:37 AM

Yeah I was gutted that goal was disallowed, Arsenal were getting back into the game after being dominated for the first 20 mins, that was a prime example of how bad reffereeing decisions can affect a game, Van Persie wasnt offside when he scored.

Arsenal are defo out of the title race now, only United and Liverpool can stop Chelsea winning the league and like I have already said I dont think Liverpool are quite good enough to win the league, I think we are a season or two from mounting a serious challenge so that leaves United who have one of the smallest squads in the Premiership and no midfield.... Chelsea will win the league again but I just hope Liverpool can finish as close as possible to them.

Henkie

12-19-2005, 03:03 PM

And we're only halfway through the season...

Quiet_Riot

12-19-2005, 03:19 PM

What do you guys think about Essien? He hasnt been as spectacular as the hype lead us to believe before he was signed, and lets be honest, some of his tackles are bad.

I think Lauren made a meal of that "elbow", he was just blocking the ball, but that cynical kick on van persie was worth a yellow i reckon. I didnt see senderos's foul on Robben, but i dont think the foul on Drogba was even a foul, never mind a straight red as Jose said!

Prince_Vegeta

12-19-2005, 03:31 PM

I think Lauren made a meal of that "elbow"

The touchline reporter for Sky Sports claimed that Lauren lost a tooth due to that elbow. So maybe he didn't milk it as much as I had first believed.

Strange, the replay seemed to indicate Essien's elbow didn't make contact with Lauren's mouth. Doesn't make Essien any less of a dirty Chelscum bastard though.

Not long til the ol' Hammers entertain Chelscum. Plenty of 'you fat bastard' chants for ol' Lampard! kekekeke :D

Quiet_Riot

12-19-2005, 04:10 PM

Strange, the replay seemed to indicate Essien's elbow didn't make contact with Lauren's mouth. Doesn't make Essien any less of a dirty Chelscum bastard though.

Yeah, from what i saw, it looked like upper chest, nothing more.

jcthompson76

12-19-2005, 04:48 PM

I would say Essien has been an above par player since arriving in the Premiership. He's got a physical style that surely fits the game. I think he may need a whole season under his belt before delivering on the hype and hopefully cleaning up his challenges.

But I must agree, some of his tackles are messy. The one against Bolton comes to mind. I saw the challenge on Hamann and just shook my head thinking 'what the f#ck are you doing?!?!?!' The replay of that tackle was just plaing scary, could have put Hamann's knee in bits.

I don't know if his style of play with Lyon was the same or if he is over asserting himself to live up to his hefty price tag. Still, I'd rather him on my side than against it.

James Bond 007

12-20-2005, 07:44 AM

Essien is ok, hes a good strong player who has adapted to the physical fast pace of English football very quickly, he is a dirty fucker though and it wont be long before he does someone some serious injury with his wreckless tackles.... The only surprise to me is that when he puled that horror challenge on Hamann that Didi didnt get him back later in the game, Hamann is the type of player who will hit you back twice as hard.

MrDeliquent85

12-20-2005, 03:25 PM

Its a funny old situation we find ourselves in JamesBond because I can only see 2 teams beating Chelsea anytime this season and I think you know wo they are. Some games may throw up a few draws for Chelsea (away to Newcastle & Bolton for example) but I cant see anyone catching them. Should be a good battle for 2nd though and its good to see the Arseholes down on their arseholes.

Man Utd have Bolton, Arsenal, City after Crimbo so hopefully we can continue our current displays to meet head to head for a "six pointer" at Old Trafford.

Quiet_Riot

12-20-2005, 03:29 PM

Man Utd have Bolton, Arsenal, City after Crimbo so hopefully we can continue our current displays to meet head to head for a "six pointer" at Old Trafford.

Pff, after we held you at Old Trafford, you'll have to be on top form to get anything from the blue camp. Unless we get a long injured list between now and then.

MrDeliquent85

12-20-2005, 03:45 PM

Pff, after we held you at Old Trafford, you'll have to be on top form to get anything from the blue camp. Unless we get a long injured list between now and then.

Incase you hadn't noticed, our away form is superior to anyone else's in the league.

Quiet_Riot

12-20-2005, 04:31 PM

Incase you hadn't noticed, our away form is superior to anyone else's in the league.

I maintain, you'll need to be in top form to get anything of a full-strength city side.

MrDeliquent85

12-22-2005, 03:38 PM

I maintain, you'll need to be in top form to get anything of a full-strength city side.
Full strength as in as good as West Brom or Doncaster ?

:boink:

kit kat

12-26-2005, 07:07 PM

Hmmm.. watched liverpool play newcastle and liverpool play us off the pitch.Newcastle had only 1 shot on goal in the whole game....bowyers sending of was harsh.liverpool could easily have got 5 but given had 3 class saves, i think he is one of the best GKs in premiership just now.

Nice to see some liverpool twats boo and shout abuse at micheal owen

Quiet_Riot

12-27-2005, 02:58 PM

..bowyers sending of was harsh.

i think crouch should have gone too, fucking lanky knobhead.

i lolled when they gave his goal as a Shay Given own goal too!

James Bond 007

12-28-2005, 07:15 AM

Liverpool are in awesome form at the minute, we are playing better football than anyone else in the country.

Our demolision job on Newcastle was a show of strength, we were playing slick one-touch football like Arsenal were playing 2 years ago, its just a shame we got off to such a bad start in the league bcoz even if we keep this run of form going to the end of the season (which we are more than capable of doing) we will still finish behind Chelscum bcoz they are 15 points ahead of us.... We do have two games in hand over them so realy they are only 9 points ahead (if we win those games ofcourse).

Chelsea havent looked great in the league this season, for the most part they have ground out results against shite teams (Wigan), I honestly think Liverpool and Man U have the beating of Chelscum.
Like I have said loads of times I still think Liverpool are a year or two off mounting a serious title challenge but in football you never know.... Liverpool and Man U have been the best two teams in the country of the last few weeks (Liverpool IMO have been the best English side since the end of October) and if they both keep winning their games then theres no reason why either one cant be champions in May, if Chelsea slip up I think they will be bang in trouble.

After I have said all that, Everton will beat us today in the Mersey side derby.

Blue Lightening

12-28-2005, 11:08 AM

I posted this in the Video section and got no reply so i thought some of you might apreciate it...no 007, its not your birthday! :D

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=112796

James Bond 007

01-01-2006, 04:13 PM

Nice one Blue' there were some scorchers in there. I was at a couple of those games too.

Canty

01-01-2006, 05:15 PM

I'd actually say Wycombe Wanderers have the best side in England at the moment.

Prince_Vegeta

01-25-2006, 04:28 PM

Blue Lightening

01-25-2006, 09:17 PM

Both West Ham goals from the 2-1 win over Fulham on Monday.

So good, you have to see them again!

Anton Ferdinand's volley (http://www.youtube.com/w/West-Ham-goal?v=SPm4_CeygHY&search=west%20ham)

Yossi Benayoun's chip (http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Yossi_Benayouns_goal_49568.html)

Now, onto Blackburn in the cup and hopefully a debut goal for Ashton!

holy fuck!! i hadnt seen those goals, nice post...as for the blackbums. They lost 2-1...get in there!!

The Mighty United are in the final and i'd bet my house they win it now...shame no one gives a fuck about the league cup. :rolleyes:

James Bond 007

01-29-2006, 09:47 AM

Yeah those two West Ham goals were something else, I think Anton's was best.

Rado

01-29-2006, 10:19 AM

Yea great goal, him and Rio ( His brother ) have a bet on this season to see how can get the most goals!

becks1669

02-01-2006, 10:46 AM

MAN UTD ALL THE WAY!!!! or at least i pray...they can still catch up to chelsea...funny about arsenal tho...

kit kat

02-02-2006, 12:18 PM

At last Souness has been sacked.
I think last nights defeat to city said it all. They never put up any fight, players didnt look bothered.To rub it in Andy cole even scored.I was suprised city didnt go on and try and score more. After the man city game he said he was getting everything he could out of his squad he was playing,for saying that he deserved to go.

The newcastle players never marked the players half the time,never showed any passion to win the ball, they are now very close to relegation with Glenn Roeder and Alan Shearer taking charge of their next game against Portsmouth.

Souness and staff are due a payout of around 5 million which is shit for what they have done.I think most teams get injuries but it takes the piss once blackburn can come to SJP with injuries and without a certain bellamy and win, same goes for last night when they beat Man yoo last night with injuries. It shows what mark hughes has done to blackburn since souness left.
If newcastle do go down, fuck knows what will happen to the club then.

I would like martin o'neil to take over but it probably wont happen