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heaven's satan
09-17-2005, 10:15 AM
Miles Davis could be headed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, even if rock 'n' roll wasn't his claim to fame.

The late jazz legend has been nominated for induction into the Rock Hall next year, along with singer-songwriter Cat Stevens, new-wave group Blondie, British Invasion faves the Dave Clark Five and a dozen other far-flung performers.

Besides those aforementioned artists, other first-time nominees on the latest Rock Hall ballot include the Sir Douglas Quintet and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

Black Sabbath, the quintessential heavy-metal group led by Ozzy Osbourne, received its eighth nomination.

Also in the running again after being snubbed in the past are John Mellencamp, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the J. Geils Band, the Stooges, the Patti Smith Group, the Sex Pistols, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Chic and Joe Tex.

"It's probably the most eclectic list we've ever had," says Terry Stewart, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. He also sits on the hall's nominating committee.

The 2006 induction ceremony will be held in New York City, Stewart says. Details have not been announced.

Trumpet player, bandleader and composer Davis was born in Alton, Ill., and raised in East St. Louis. From the 1940s until his death from pneumonia, respiratory failure and a stroke in 1991 at the age of 65, he pushed the boundaries of jazz, from bebop through jazz fusion and beyond.

Davis "certainly wasn't playing straight-ahead jazz in his later years," Stewart says.

Davis influenced many rockers, not only musically, but in terms of his attitude, Stewart says.

Tommy LiPuma, who co-produced three albums for Davis, says he would love to see the jazz icon's memory honored, although it's a stretch to enshrine him in the Rock Hall.

"I'm not sure you can look back at the guy's recordings -- maybe with the exception of Bitches Brew' -- and put anything in the rock category," says LiPuma, chairman of Verve Music Group, the world's largest jazz record company.

All the same, Davis "loved all kinds of music," LiPuma says.

British troubadour Stevens specialized in mellow 1970s fare such as "Peace Train" and "Morning Has Broken." Upon converting to Islam in the late '70s, he changed his name to Yusuf Islam. He was refused entry into the United States last year after alleged ties to terrorists landed him on a no-fly list.

Fronted by singer Deborah Harry, New York's Blondie topped the charts in the late '70s and early '80s with the likes of "Heart of Glass" and "Call Me."

The Dave Clark Five was one of England's leading musical exports in the 1960s, to the tune of "Over and Over," "Because," "Bits and Pieces" and other hits.

The Sir Douglas Quintet came together in San Antonio, Texas, with a Tex-Mex sound, epitomized by the 1965 smash "She's About a Mover." Singer-guitarist Doug Sahm died of heart failure in 1999.

Under the direction of harmonica-playing singer Paul Butterfield, Chicago's Paul Butterfield Blues Band solidified its place in history by backing Bob Dylan at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival. Butterfield died of a drug overdose in 1987.

Mellencamp's Top 10 singles include "Jack & Diane," "Pink Houses" and "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A." The heartland rocker from Seymour, Ind., released his first album in 1976 and co-founded Farm Aid.

Lynyrd Skynyrd, the pride of Jacksonville, Fla., is best known for the Southern-rock standard "Free Bird." Band members Ronnie Van Zant (vocals) and Steve Gaines (guitar) died in a 1977 plane crash.

Boston's J. Geils Band rocked to the top of the charts in 1981 with "Centerfold."

The Sex Pistols led the punk charge in London in the mid-'70s. The group originally featured Johnny Rotten (vocals), Steve Jones (guitar), Glen Matlock (bass) and Paul Cook (drums). Matlock was replaced by Sid Vicious, who died of a drug overdose in 1979.

New York's Patti Smith Group and Detroit's Stooges, fronted by Iggy Pop, paved the way for punk by taking a no-frills approach to rock in the late '60s and early '70s.

"The Message" and "White Lines" were hits in the 1980s for groundbreaking New York DJ Grandmaster Flash and his Furious Five. If they make the cut, they would be the first hip-hop group in the Rock Hall.

Chic, helmed by Nile Rogers and Bernard Edwards (who died of pneumonia in 1996), also has a hip-hop connection. The groove from the disco-era band's "Good Times" resurfaced on the Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," the first major hip-hop single.

Soul singer Tex of Rogers, Texas, reached the top 5 in 1965 with "Hold What You've Got." He died of a heart attack in 1982.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, based in New York, oversees the induction process. Artists are eligible 25 years after the release of their first recording.

Nominees are chosen by a committee of record company executives, music historians and journalists. Ballots are mailed to an international pool of 750 voters, including previous inductees and other members of the music industry.

The five to seven nominees who receive the most votes are inducted. Finalists typically are announced in November or December.

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Paul Butterfield deffinetely deserves a place, in my opinion. Cat Stevens, and Black Sabbath would be cool too. i also think Miles Davis should be in Early Influences, which seems like what they were thinking. anyways, what do you think of these? who else would you want to be nominated?

reggie jax
09-17-2005, 11:11 AM
Miles Davis did a lot of albums that appealed to rock fans even if they weren't rock albums..

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five? Good for them I guess.. that's gonna piss a few people off though.

Personally I don't see the point in induction either Davis or Flash to the rock hall of fame.. they both come from genres who deserve their own hall of fame, why would you lump them in with Blondie and Cat Stevens? I'm not sure if Jazz has a hall of fame but if they don't than they should. Hip hop will have one as soon as hip hop isn't big anymore, I suppose.

Spike Lee
09-17-2005, 11:28 AM
Flash? I guess. He is great but not sure if worthy.

reggie jax
09-17-2005, 11:45 AM
Their influence on hip hop was great.. The Message was the first piece of conscience rap to make it so big.. but Flash and them didn't even want to do the song.. the lady who founded Sugar Hill records (can't remember her name) basically forced them. I think they just nominated them cause they're old enough to get in and they're certainly a lot better than the Sugar Hill Gang.

Travmire
09-17-2005, 11:49 AM
I didn't know that Sabbath wasn't in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I would say they deserve it because of their success and influence.

I've got no problem with Davis either. If you own one Jazz album, odds are it's his.

lameassdude
09-19-2005, 01:14 AM
Why The Fuck Is Blondie On There?

BassPlayinToker
09-19-2005, 11:44 AM
i hope lynard and sabbath get in there, sex pistols psht sid vicious didnt even play his fuckin bass

KEALYBOY
09-19-2005, 06:13 PM
Miles Davis is head and shoulders above anyone else on that list. Even if strictly speaking he's not a rock and roll musician as such, his influence on many rock acts is profound enough to warrant his inclusion in my opinion. And with regards the industry bloke that said the only recording in his canon anything like rock is 'Bitches Brew', has he heard 'A Tribute To Jack Johnson'?

Jim Colyer
09-21-2005, 01:31 AM
If they put Miles Davis in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, they should put Elvis Presley in the Jazz Hall of Fame. Miles had nothing to do with rock & roll.

Elvis Presley http://jimcolyer.com/papers/entry?id=58
The Beatles http://jimcolyer.com/papers/entry?id=61

Jim Colyer
09-21-2005, 01:34 AM
ABBA should be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!

KEALYBOY
09-24-2005, 01:53 PM
If they put Miles Davis in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, they should put Elvis Presley in the Jazz Hall of Fame. Miles had nothing to do with rock & roll.

Elvis Presley http://jimcolyer.com/papers/entry?id=58
The Beatles http://jimcolyer.com/papers/entry?id=61

Wrong, he was the first jazz artist to really appeal to a rock audience, broke ground for many improvisational rock bands and was one cool motherfucker...