Tons of British aid to be BURNED by America

[BurritoClock]

Article (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16147117%26method=full%26siteid=94762% 26headline=exclusive--58--up-in-flames-name_page.html)

HUNDREDS of tons of British food aid shipped to America for starving Hurricane Katrina survivors is to be burned.

US red tape is stopping it from reaching hungry evacuees.

Instead tons of the badly needed Nato ration packs, the same as those eaten by British troops in Iraq, has been condemned as unfit for human consumption.

And unless the bureaucratic mess is cleared up soon it could be sent for incineration.

One British aid worker last night called the move "sickening senselessness" and said furious colleagues were "spitting blood".

The food, which cost British taxpayers millions, is sitting idle in a huge warehouse after the Food and Drug Agency recalled it when it had already left to be distributed.

The worker added: "There will be a cloud of smoke above Little Rock soon - of burned food, of anger and of shame that the world's richest nation couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery and lets Americans starve while they arrogantly observe petty regulations.

"Everyone is revolted by the chaotic shambles the US is making of this crisis. Guys from Unicef are walking around spitting blood.

"This is utter madness. People have worked their socks off to get food into the region.

"It is perfectly good Nato approved food of the type British servicemen have. Yet the FDA are saying that because there is a meat content and it has come from Britain it must be destroyed.

Food from Spain and Italy is also being held because it fails to meet US standards and has been judged unfit for human consumption.

And Israeli relief agencies are furious that thousands of gallons of pear juice are to be destroyed because it has been judged unfit.

The FDA said: "We did inspect some MREs (meals ready to eat) on September 13. They are the only MREs we looked at. There were 70 huge pallets of vegetarian MREs.

"They were from a foreign nation. We inspected them and then released them for distribution."

Just another fine example of beuraracy in action. I would like to apoligize to the genorous Brits out there and I hope the stupid FDA head steps in and doesn't allow this to happen.

[Viceroy]

The source is the Mirror. That is undoubtably a left wing paper, and (dare I use the term?) anti-American.

[BurritoClock]

The source is the Mirror. That is undoubtably a left wing paper, and (dare I use the term?) anti-American.

Agreed, but can you honestly say you would be shocked by this? I am almost sure it is happening just due to the nature of goverment. This particular article is probably exaggerated. Anyway, just throwing it out for discussion.

[Oculus Infernus]

Have you ever eaten British food? TRUST ME, it's better this way. :)

Kidding... Really, if that's true it's disgusting.

[Deamatix]

I bet its fake. If its not I apoligize for our government, believe me my british bro's, we're not happy with them either. :mad:

[RalphyBoy]

This doesn't really surpise me...

[Asbestos Crayon]

Well, there could be a link between it and bad teeth.

[4n7hr4x]

Well, there could be a link between it and bad teeth.

Its sad it really is that you can manage to find this funny. Its blatantly obvious that the US government did not want help to come to the gulf too soon, they wanted people to die and suffer "Thinning the herd", its not that they had to pay attention to the little details and follow the rules, this government is known for not doing that. The reason the food was burned or rejected is that the people who wanted to make this hurricane worse found an excuse to delay help for those people, thats all this really is, its the powers at be finding reasons to not help, its not that hard to get help to people in our own country. Lets run a scenario:

Some huge company donates a crap load of something usefull for the relief and heres what happens:

A) They cannot enter the city because FEMA and or police won't let anyone in or out.

B) FEMA says they don't need it.

WTF There is no way someone can be so fuckin stupid you don't fuck up that bad unless you want to. I mean one minute FEMA is at a press conference complaining that they don't have any supplies to give and no way of getting them there, and the next minute they get a call from KMart for example that donated 3 tractor trailors full of water, they were in New Orleans and FEMA said nope we don't need it. They went from not having any supplies to not needing any in an instant. Its a fucking natural DISSASTER you need everything you can get, its basic knowledge that when something that big happens you don't turn anything away even Britich MRE's which are perfectly fine for human consumption, I mean if the FDA approves McDonalds mystery meat theres no reason for them to not approve desperatly needed British MRE's.

[gigatonblast]

Its sad it really is that you can manage to find this funny.

Yes...

Its not funny...


ITS FUCKING HILARIOUS !

Israels up in arms about pear juice ? :lol:

Italians are seathing ? :icon_rofl

Angry Spanish pussies ??? :icon_rofl :lol:

Hey 4n7hr4x...nice pants !

[Asbestos Crayon]

Its sad it really is that you can manage to find this funny. Its blatantly obvious that the US government did not want help to come to the gulf too soon, they wanted people to die and suffer "Thinning the herd", its not that they had to pay attention to the little details and follow the rules, this government is known for not doing that. The reason the food was burned or rejected is that the people who wanted to make this hurricane worse found an excuse to delay help for those people, thats all this really is, its the powers at be finding reasons to not help, its not that hard to get help to people in our own country. Lets run a scenario:

Some huge company donates a crap load of something usefull for the relief and heres what happens:

A) They cannot enter the city because FEMA and or police won't let anyone in or out.

B) FEMA says they don't need it.

WTF There is no way someone can be so fuckin stupid you don't fuck up that bad unless you want to. I mean one minute FEMA is at a press conference complaining that they don't have any supplies to give and no way of getting them there, and the next minute they get a call from KMart for example that donated 3 tractor trailors full of water, they were in New Orleans and FEMA said nope we don't need it. They went from not having any supplies to not needing any in an instant. Its a fucking natural DISSASTER you need everything you can get, its basic knowledge that when something that big happens you don't turn anything away even Britich MRE's which are perfectly fine for human consumption, I mean if the FDA approves McDonalds mystery meat theres no reason for them to not approve desperatly needed British MRE's.

Did you go up to the mother wheel with Louis Farakan?

[Chewy]

Yes...

Its not funny...


ITS FUCKING HILARIOUS !

Israels up in arms about pear juice ? :lol:

Italians are seathing ? :icon_rofl

Angry Spanish pussies ??? :icon_rofl :lol:
What is not funny is that it is a reflection of US values, and its credibility. The US looks ungrateful and unorganized…. Again.

[goatwalker]

What could possibly be in that meat that doesnt belong their.

[TFS]

What could possibly be in that meat that doesnt belong their.
Mad cow disease, for one. It's not just that. Different nations have different standards/methods of preparing food for consumption. While the meat in those rations are probably fit for consumption by someone whose digestive system is used to that standard/form of preparation, someone in another nation might get nasty-sick from eating it.

It's like going to Mexico and drinking the water. Mexicans have lived with it all their lives and it doesn't affect them, but it tears us Americans up on the inside.

While the worst that could happen is some people get stomache aches and diarrhea, with the state things are in, it could become a greater problem.

I agree that burning it is the wrong action. They should sell these foods back to the nations they came from for the same price they originslly cost and then allocate those funds to providing US-produced MRE's.

[Chewy]

Mad cow disease, for one. It's not just that. Different nations have different standards/methods of preparing food for consumption. While the meat in those rations are probably fit for consumption by someone whose digestive system is used to that standard/form of preparation, someone in another nation might get nasty-sick from eating it.

It's like going to Mexico and drinking the water. Mexicans have lived with it all their lives and it doesn't affect them, but it tears us Americans up on the inside.

While the worst that could happen is some people get stomache aches and diarrhea, with the state things are in, it could become a greater problem.

I agree that burning it is the wrong action. They should sell these foods back to the nations they came from for the same price they originslly cost and then allocate those funds to providing US-produced MRE's.

These are NATO approved MRE's from the UK, not freeze dried goat kabobs from Kraplaptistan in a zip lock freezer bag. AS for Mad Cow you guys have had a bit there as well. I see no reason for these actions.

[Asbestos Crayon]

What could possibly be in that meat that doesnt belong their.

Mad Cow!!!!!
If any one came down with it as a result of it, the Federal government would have a litigation nightmare.

[TFS]

These are NATO approved MRE's from the UK, not freeze dried goat kabobs from Kraplaptistan in a zip lock freezer bag. AS for Mad Cow you guys have had a bit there as well. I see no reason for these actions.
NATO is not the FDA. Two different organizations with 2 different sets of standards.

I also never said it was unfit for human consumption, but that it might make some people sick or even more sick, which is not what they need in the area. With people like Farrakhan and Kanye West running around, it might get twisted into Bush trying to poison black people.

And the bit of Mad Cow we have had, we've contained, whereas it is still a major problem in Britain. The last thing we need in this nation right now is that.

While the need to rapidly provide aid is present, it is not an excuse to lower our standards on health and safety. If anything, given the bacterial conditions of the flood areas, it is reason to heighten them.

This is not an insult, and I'm sorry you seem to be taking it as such. It is just a case of different standards, not necessarily saying one is better than the other, just that people's body chemistry will react better to food that meets our standards.

[Chewy]

NATO is not the FDA. Two different organizations with 2 different sets of standards. Do you really think there is a huge variance in standards? Some how I have my reservations. Bureaucracy has been a serious down fall of the US as of late.

[Asbestos Crayon]

FOOD DRUG ADMINISTRATION does a lot better job than NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION on dealing with food. Last time I checked NATO was a military organization charged with the defense of Europe and did not run the EU's food regulations arena.

Chewy, you ok? You're batting 0-2 for really bad comments.

[TFS]

Do you really think there is a huge variance in standards? Some how I have my reservations. Bureaucracy has been a serious down fall of the US as of late.
Not trying to argue about our bureacracy record, but yes, there might be enough of a variation to cause concern. How much of our meat we regularly eat comes from Britain?

[BurritoClock]

Chewy, you ok? You're batting 0-2 for really bad comments.

0-2? Is that just from this thread? ;)

[Chewy]

0-2? Is that just from this thread? ;)Crayon likes it when people present good arguments against mine, he gets a little envious.


FOOD DRUG ADMINISTRATION does a lot better job than NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION on dealing with food. Last time I checked NATO was a military organization charged with the defense of Europe and did not run the EU's food regulations arena.

Chewy, you ok? You're batting 0-2 for really bad comments.
Let's review crayon, State of Emergency. Help is needed, people are living in a toxic soup, exposed to a battery of chemical and biological threats, even some that have the potential of becoming airborne viruses epidemics and yet we have concearn over NATO issued food… :rolleyes: Last time I checked the members of NATO were;
Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, and United States.. :rolleyes:

[Asbestos Crayon]

Crayon likes it when people present good arguments against mine, he gets a little envious.

Only envious that you live in your own little world.

[pat99872]

wow, how sad.. This really shows us how organized we are as a country. We burn food donated from other countries instead of turning it back..

I love the country I live in

[Chewy]

Only envious that you live in your own little world. right... :rolleyes: I think you need a geography lesson (http://www.fthwholesale.com/Mousepads/PageMPAD12/MPAD12-1%20Denial%20Robin%20Williams.jpg) ;)

[gigatonblast]

Do you really think there is a huge variance in standards? Some how I have my reservations. Bureaucracy has been a serious down fall of the US as of late.


Ummmm...Bureaucracy ?

:rolleyes:

You might wanna think real hard about what you say about the country that'll TAKE YOU BACK !

I mean seriously why bite the hand that MAY feed you ?

Repeat after me Chewy :D

I pledge Allegiance to the flagof the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible,
with Liberty and Justice for all.


We dont even deport Mexicans after 36 months,let alone 36 years.
Think about that.

Bad food can kill people.

End of story.

[Chewy]

Bad food can kill people.
End of story.
yeah if the food is bad... :rolleyes:

[gigatonblast]

For those that still dont get it...


THE USA IS THE # 1 FOOD EXPORTER ON THE PLANET !!!!

We have more food than we know what to do with.

This is just symbolism over substance.

Heres something you might relate too:

A tornado hits Wisconsin...

Are you gonna send us CHEESE ?

Get it ? Good !

[Chewy]

For those that still dont get it...


THE USA IS THE # 1 FOOD EXPORTER ON THE PLANET !!!!

We have more food than we know what to do with.

This is just symbolism over substance.

Heres something you might relate too:

A tornado hits Wisconsin...

Are you gonna send us CHEESE ?

Get it ? Good !
and so many people went without food and water for DAYS after Katrina. I think that was the issue.

[Secret Squirrel]

Does anyone have a second source on this report? We're all up in arms on something that so far no one has posted any confirmation on. I know it's ebaumsworld and all, and we all enjoy a good chance to vent, but seriously, if you can't find more than one source for a report (not counting other sites that link back to the same article in the mirror), then I wouldn't put too much stock in this. If it was reliable, the AP or Reuters would have the story as well. Unless you think they are part of the government propaganda machine, which some like Ralphyboy might. Sorry, that was a cheap shot.

[Chewy]

Does anyone have a second source on this report? We're all up in arms on something that so far no one has posted any confirmation on. I know it's ebaumsworld and all, and we all enjoy a good chance to vent, but seriously, if you can't find more than one source for a report (not counting other sites that link back to the same article in the mirror), then I wouldn't put too much stock in this. If it was reliable, the AP or Reuters would have the story as well. Unless you think they are part of the government propaganda machine, which some like Ralphyboy might. Sorry, that was a cheap shot.
I found this.. :D

To date, the US has accepted, from NATO and Partner nations, offers including financial assistance, food, first aid kits and medical supplies, generators, water pumps and rescue teams.
http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2005/p05-110e.htm

and this
http://www.suntimes.com/output/hurricane/madcow21.html

[BurritoClock]

and so many people went without food and water for DAYS after Katrina. I think that was the issue.

It was getting it to the people, not a lack of it. Seriously, NATO giving us 400,000 MRE's is a symbolic gesture at best. FEMA has already distributed millions of american MRE's. Not saying it isn't appreciated, but it's not like these people are starving because these MRE's are held up.

[Chewy]

It was getting it to the people, not a lack of it. Seriously, NATO giving us 400,000 MRE's is a symbolic gesture at best. FEMA has already distributed millions of american MRE's. Not saying it isn't appreciated, but it's not like these people are starving because these MRE's are held up.
In times of need help is help, this appears as being very smug.

[Kazimierz]

I don't actually know if this has been said, but we could have had billions of pounds of food, and it wouldn't matter if we didn't have enough people to distribute it. I saw a news special on something like this, that a majority of clothes that have been donated aren't going out, and will be thrown away or donated to charities because people would send boxes of mixed goods, and the volunteers were more vital in distributing food than rummaging through clothing. There's only so many people that can do so many things. While the help is appreciated, sometimes there can just be too much.