Alex Jones! A WARNING!

[PersianPaladin]

This is a very important read indeed: -

http://opposingdigits.com/alex/

Is Alex Jones to be trusted? Read this short article first.

[skymater]

Alex Jones is a scumbag. He mixes bits of the truth with a whole load of crap.

[wils0646]

I like how some conspiracy theorists believe that flouride "controls" people.

Originally Posted by wils0646

I like how some conspiracy theorists believe that flouride "controls" people.

controls? imho flouride is a poison and its in our tap water, but oooohhh thats a conspiracy!!! drink up.

[wils0646]

Originally Posted by GLOBALIST

controls? imho flouride is a poison and its in our tap water, but oooohhh thats a conspiracy!!! drink up.

It's very debatable about the effects of fluoride to your health, but that's what the article states. It says Hitler used fluoride to "to induce apathy and population control in his nation." Sorry, I didn't mean "control"...but the apathy part confuses me.

IMHO, low amounts of fluoride are greatly beneficial to the health of your teeth.

Originally Posted by GLOBALIST

controls? imho flouride is a poison and its in our tap water, but oooohhh thats a conspiracy!!! drink up.

Oh my god I accidentally swallowed some of my toothpaste when I was brushing my teeth!!! I am going to dieeeeee!!!!!

[whocares]

Every substance is a poison in one way or another... example: coca-cola...

[TFS]

Too much of any one thing can and will kill you, some things take smaller amounts to do so.

The fluoride is put in at a point in our purification process where it has time to kill microorganisms before they get to us and then along that way the fluoride and the dead microorganisms are further filtered out to reduce the amount of both to extremely low levels in the water.

By the time the water gets to us, there's too little flouride to do anything to us but help strengthen our teeth upon contact. However, a shot of pure fluoride would make you extremely ill and possibly kill you.

Read the directions on your toothpaste: it should read to only put an amount equal to the size of a pea onto your brush when you brush. The directions might be on the box the tube came in but not the tube itself.

If toothpaste is considered a concentrated source of fluoride, by most standards, then the amount in our drinking water is really barely even worth having beyond that initial introduction to kill microorganisms well before it reaches us.

I do have to ask you, globalist, if it's so dangerous in the water, what do you use to brush your teeth and what do you do when your dentist goes to polish your teeth? I think it's safe to say everyone easily swallows more fluoride inadvertantly when they get their teeth polished at the dentist even with all the rinse-spit-vacuum tube stuff they do than people swallow in tap water each week.

Not to mention the fluoride that is just left, lingering in your mouth after brushing each day even if you rinse and spit several times then. I bet you through-out the day the amount of lingering fluoride you swallow is comparable to a small glass of water.

Plus, a lot of bottled-water companies just sell bottled tap water and those that do sell natural spring water still have to purify it according to FDA standards, meaning either fluoride or carbon (which is also bad for you to ingest, as bad as, if not worse than fluoride). So where do you get your water?

[bergshadow]

A lot of the best natural drinking water has flouride in it. That's how they noticed it is good for children's teeth, and showed that it does no obvious harm to anyone in low doses - epidemiology.

The standards for adding it - the amounts deemed best - haven't been reviewed carefully, though, and were set on scanty data in the first place. So if someone wants to review things, and maybe lower the amount added or something, that might be reasonable. Might save money, for one thing.

[TFS]

Originally Posted by bergshadow

A lot of the best natural drinking water has flouride in it. That's how they noticed it is good for children's teeth, and showed that it does no obvious harm to anyone in low doses - epidemiology.

The standards for adding it - the amounts deemed best - haven't been reviewed carefully, though, and were set on scanty data in the first place. So if someone wants to review things, and maybe lower the amount added or something, that might be reasonable. Might save money, for one thing.

Well, apparently, so far so good. I don't think it's been around long enough yet to really tell how much the current levels do to us, but I can't seem to recall anything where people have had mass outbreaks of fluoride poisoning due to the current levels.

Maybe in 30 years, I think, we'll know. It's like finding out how much soda contributes to osteoperosis. The data was scant for a while, but it takes a lifetime of the status quo to really find out, unfortunately. One generation;s folly saves the next in that regard.

[Elmo?]

Originally Posted by MooCowzRock

Oh my god I accidentally swallowed some of my toothpaste when I was brushing my teeth!!! I am going to dieeeeee!!!!!

OMG! forget the flouride, saccharine is a carcinogen!

Originally Posted by bergshadow

A lot of the best natural drinking water has flouride in it. That's how they noticed it is good for children's teeth, and showed that it does no obvious harm to anyone in low doses - epidemiology.

The standards for adding it - the amounts deemed best - haven't been reviewed carefully, though, and were set on scanty data in the first place. So if someone wants to review things, and maybe lower the amount added or something, that might be reasonable. Might save money, for one thing.

You know the Nazis in the concentration camps put Flouride in the inmates food and water to make them apathetic and docile. So do you think those Nazis were just doing this for the concern of the inmates teeth condition?
Flouride is a POISON, just like Mercury is a POISON.. just because the media says 'Mercury is good for your children', doesnt make it so, neither is Flouride healthy.. it's been known to cause cancer.

Drink Up

[wils0646]

Originally Posted by GLOBALIST

You know the Nazis in the concentration camps put Flouride in the inmates food and water to make them apathetic and docile. So do you think those Nazis were just doing this for the concern of the inmates teeth condition?
Flouride is a POISON, just like Mercury is a POISON.. just because the media says 'Mercury is good for your children', doesnt make it so, neither is Flouride healthy.. it's been known to cause cancer.

Drink Up

They probably put a more concentrated amount of fluoride in their water. Where are you getting the info about current levels of fluoride being unhealthy?

From an article found on the web:

"Many other scientifically valid organizations also recognize the importance of water fluoridation, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, American Dental Association, World Health Organization, and American Academy of Pediatrics."

Scientists seem to believe it's safe. You also didn't answer TFS' question. What do you drink?

This is a great read: http://www.fluorideinfo.org/FAQ.html...nking%20water?

What are the adverse effects of fluoride? (Back to Top)
Scientific literature does not support the claims that fluoride adversely affects the immune system, collagen, glucose metabolism, the integrity of genetic material, causes, attention deficit disorder, Alzheimer's disease, osteoporosis, cancer or AIDS, aggravates kidney disease or hypothyroidism. Anti-fluoridationists and anti-fluoride websites cite "scientific articles", most of which have methodological problems:

• They are not from reputable peer-reviewed journals and are not obtainable through a medical or dental library

• They do not deal with the fluoride compounds that are actually used to fluoridate water

• They study exposure levels way above that possible at 1 ppm dilution of fluoridated water

• They inappropriately try to extrapolate data from poorly designed animal or bench-top research with no relationship to the levels of fluoride in drinking water

Severe cosmetic or dentally injurious fluorosis of teeth or skeletal fluorosis is seen in some people growing up in areas with natural fluorides in 8 to 20 times the concentration as Arcata water. This leaves a wide safety margin for individual consumption.
Legitimate epidemiological studies have not detected health risks to water fluoridation at 1 ppm.

Since community water fluoridation was introduced in 1945, more than 50 epidemiologic studies in different populations and at different times have failed to demonstrate an association between fluoridation and the risk of cancer. Mild dental fluorosis (mottling of tooth enamel) can occur, particularly if a child also uses fluoridated toothpaste, but fluorosis does not weaken teeth. Skeletal fluorosis, which is a serious health problem, does not occur from drinking water, but can be an occupational and environmental health risk in the proximity of industries that utilize large amounts of fluoride. In contrast, the benefits of water fluoridation are great and easy to detect.

A very thorough survey of many US adults (using xrays and clinical diagnoses) found virtually no skeletal fluorosis in a population exposed for many years to natural fluoride in local water at 20 ppm (which is 20 times the recommended concentration). By comparison, in other countries there is fairly common skeletal fluorosis at concentrations half of that (but still 10 times more than in fluoridated drinking water). Clearly other factors must be operative

The fact is that all of these internet claims are baseless and without scientific merit.

Its alright dude, this is one of the guys that thinks a missile hit the pentagon and the government orchestrated 9/11...so if he wants to think that his toothpaste is a government plot to make him apathetic, there is probably no saving him...

[bergshadow]

Originally Posted by TFS

I don't think it's been around long enough yet to really tell how much the current levels do to us,

We have hundreds of years of medical records involving naturally flouridated vs naturally unflouridated water.

People have come to take for granted the mouths full of healthy teeth sported by even the middle and lower classes of teenager in the US. It wasn't so long ago that the norm was different.

What I wonder about is the recent proliferation of flouride compounds in daily life, especially around children - not only added to stuff like toothpaste, but fabric treatments and cookware coatings and so forth. We don't have much info on the sum of all this.

But heavy metals, pesticides/herbicides/fungicides, and the like are far more likely to be trouble, if someone wants to worry.

Originally Posted by moocowz

so if - - his toothpaste is a government plot to make him apathetic,

It's deeper and more nefarious than that - the flouride is addictive, so that once a person is hooked withdrawal of the substance cripples the person's mental abilities. They become paranoid, delusional, and unable to effectively organize against the master plan. In this way the Planners have preset the ability to incapacitate everyone who has been drinking tap water, when it becomes time to take over.