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 #58432  by Demeter
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:07 am
Do people just like it because there are naked women and gore scenes and they're very vulgar about everything?

I tried watching the first episode but the plot is so fucking slow and then there's gore and naked women thrown in for shock value/so men keep watching. But I can't get into it. Maybe if there wasn't so much gore and naked women I could keep watching for the aesthetics, but even then it's such a gloomy setting it's just depressing to look at.

Does the plot ever get better and faster moving? It's like watching plants grow.

And if I wanted to see gore/naked women I'd just go to liveleak or pornhub. Why did they spend so much money on such a vulgar and pathetic plot? It could have had so much potential.
 #58441  by PlusCaChange
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:33 am
I read the books first so I don't really know why someone who has only seen the TV series likes it. The books are written in a reasonably good style and unusually for fantasy, are character-driven with characters who are not only complex and morally ambiguous but Rashomon-like, appear quite different depending on the POV of the various characters central to each chapter.

The other thing is the plot is a quilt of actual historical snippets which gives it a different, more realistic flavor because real events will always be stranger than a plot conceived in an individual imagination.

Some of this comes through in the dramatization, perhaps that is the attraction. Certainly mere well produced exotic sex and violence would not explain it, there are many examples of that which have flopped.
 #58450  by PlusCaChange
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:51 am
Perhaps it's because you have little appreciation for moral ambiguity or subtlety? You strike me as someone who wants moral questions to have definite answers and becomes uncomfortable when it is shown they do not.
 #58453  by Demeter
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:56 am
No, it's literally because the plot moves so damn slowly. I like shows like Doctor Who and Sherlock, which move much, much faster. I get bored staring at a scene for 3 minutes before anyone speaks, then when they do, it's something incredibly dull, not offering any mental stimulation.
 #58458  by PlusCaChange
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:20 am
Like I said, I don't know how someone who hasn't read the books sees the show. In the books there is a lot to think about but you have to put it together yourself. I don't know if you'd get it from the dramatization.

Let me give an example from early in the books. There is a buildup description of a boy of about ten, a boy who is a paragon of everything a boy that age should be. A perfect, ideal boy. He likes to climb. He climbs a ruined tower and sees a man and a woman (brother and sister) having sex. The man pushes him out a window about 60 feet off the ground. Horrible, inconceivably, completely evil.

But later on we find out a few more things:
The woman is the queen and the man is not her husband the king.
Brother and sister marriage is very rare in their culture but not absolutely forbidden.
They have been consensual, though clandestine (their father would have gone ape-shit) lovers since before she was married to the king in a loveless political marriage.
They are devoted to one another and have three children.
The king is a faithless brute (at least to her) who insulted her. She (and all her relatives) are very, very proud.
If the king finds out her children are not his, she, her brother and their children (who are as innocent as the climbing boy) will all be killed, probably in some gruesome way.

Now it looks more like the moral problem of the streetcar where you can throw the switch and save five people but only by deliberately killing one. Jamie Lannister is not the kind of guy to hesitate when it's time to throw a switch.

Oh and he's also an unsung hero who saved thousands of people's lives by making a difficult moral decision on another occasion. Some people just have crappy luck.
 #58460  by SkeetDixon
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:23 am
Demeter wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:56 am
No, it's literally because the plot moves so damn slowly. I like shows like Doctor Who and Sherlock, which move much, much faster. I get bored staring at a scene for 3 minutes before anyone speaks, then when they do, it's something incredibly dull, not offering any mental stimulation.
It sounds like you are just a feeble-minded cunt with the attention span of a gnat.

Dr. Who is the flagship of unattractive girls. Hate to break it to ya.
 #58461  by Demeter
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:28 am
SkeetDixon wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:23 am
Demeter wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:56 am
No, it's literally because the plot moves so damn slowly. I like shows like Doctor Who and Sherlock, which move much, much faster. I get bored staring at a scene for 3 minutes before anyone speaks, then when they do, it's something incredibly dull, not offering any mental stimulation.
It sounds like you are just a feeble-minded cunt with the attention span of a gnat.

Dr. Who is the flagship of unattractive girls. Hate to break it to ya.
More like my brain moves much faster than yours so I don't need 3 minutes to understand what someone said.

And I don't give a shit if you think I'm attractive (but I know you do). I hate to break it to you but you're not attractive to me at all. Your opinion is pointless.
 #58465  by cunnalingus
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:43 am
He could be a dude as fat as Brian and say he was an ethical vegan, meat is murder etc and you'd be begging to sit on his face lol. Either that or he has a healthy supply of mouthwash in his home and your panties would be dropping like hair from a chemo patient.
 #58469  by Hakik
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:52 am
I guess Game of Thrones would come as a shock for someone who mostly just watches Disney movies. Now you see a real grown up show that doesn't gloss over everything and covers it with glitter, sheltering viewers from anything that could be a little too real. But I guess you wouldn't know much about the real world and adulthood just yet.

You also have to see something you've probably never seen before, real plot and complex developed characters. And it also has this little thing called substance, which in Disney movies is substituted for moral messages like a PSA.

And yes, as shocking as it may sound, people are actually not surgically fused to their clothes, they have to take them off and be naked sometimes. Sorry to shatter your sheltered little world.
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