I don't think PP face is that bad. He was the most active with the commenter community, back when there was one. He put himself up as a sacrificial lamb leg for the roasting, while used car man and macdreidle were hiding beneath their beds. Too frightened to face the music. I know that I say some mrs. mean jeans type things about PP face when I've had a drink or 2, and throw a hissy fit. We all lose control of our emotions sometimes. But I respect PP, and I understand the difficult position the man has put him in. I un-buddied PP on this site the other day, but I still consider him an honorary jeans.