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 #87853  by kocher
 Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:40 pm
PlusCaChange wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:42 am
There was actually a code drafted at some University where the woman (but not the man) was supposed to keep repeating "I consent to this" periodically during sex or it could be assumed to be non consensual and grounds for criminal prosecution.
What, the South Harmon Institute of Technology? :lol:
 #87917  by PlusCaChange
 Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:00 pm
Kumacho wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:35 pm
Pee_patrol wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:22 pm
Kumacho wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:31 am


One could argue that Stalin was a lot worse than Hitler.

Stalin was committing atrocities that were for the most part against his own people.

The exact numbers have always been hotly debated; but some recently released soviet documents allude to around 20 million people who died as a direct result of stalinist policies (including but not limited to the purges) that were designed to starve undesirables to death.

However, there can be no doubt that at outbreak of WWII the Soviet Union and Stalin were by far the more evil of the two. In the Great Terror (or great purge) 1.9 million people were removed from the ranks and books of the communist party. In the years leading up to WWII this would have been a death sentence. Without party rations and benefits one would expect to starve or die from exposure.

The issue was russia (at that time) was not trying to expand into europe and with the invasion of Poland, Germany became the biggest issue. We knew about the expansionist desires of Stalin and ignored them.

I personally feel that was a mistake. We should have made demands at the end of the war that would have placed us in conflict with the USSR when it was weak. We allowed them to recover from the beating they took from Germany. While they did win the battle of Stalingrad it cost them dearly. Had germany not had to protect the west and east they might have defeated the USSR. Doubtful, but it is a possibility.
Patton actually wanted to go into Russia toward the end of the war. he was even going to use re-purposed German units.
It would have cost a lot of lives on both sides. But it would probably have saved a lot of lives too.
Stalin had already done the bulk of his killing in the 1930's. He killed a few million after the war but his heart wasn't really in it any more. The prevention of the communist takeover of China would have had the biggest effect in saving lives. Not just Chinese but Koreans, Cambodians and Vietnamese.

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Problem is it's always been difficult to convince Americans, or any other people for that matter, that they should risk getting killed for the good of foreigners who mostly won't fight for themselves or appreciate it when you fight for them.
 #87955  by Anthrax666
 Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:11 pm
PlusCaChange wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:20 am
Coprophilia is the next homosexuality. Just needs a catchy, positive euphemism like 'gay'.
So, if people organised a march or rally in favour of this, would it be known as 'A dirty protest'?

And in reference to the catchy euphemism how about 'cop a feely'
 #87984  by joecaca
 Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:05 am
It's too bad you geniuses weren't there to make your recommendations during the war.
 #87997  by PlusCaChange
 Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:12 am
joecaca wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:05 am
It's too bad you geniuses weren't there to make your recommendations during the war.
Plenty of people said these things at the time, it's just that for a variety of reasons there wasn't sufficient popular will to take action. How do you think a guy like Stalin, Mao or Hitler gets and holds power? Even with all their propaganda and ideological brainwashing the majority would oust them but for being too complacent and timid. Mind you if most people weren't timid, complacent, easily brainwashed idiots there would be no governing them at all.
 #88003  by HolidayFriday
 Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:40 am
Kumacho wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:31 am
One could argue that Stalin was a lot worse than Hitler.

Stalin was committing atrocities that were for the most part against his own people.

The exact numbers have always been hotly debated; but some recently released soviet documents allude to around 20 million people who died as a direct result of stalinist policies (including but not limited to the purges) that were designed to starve undesirables to death.

However, there can be no doubt that at outbreak of WWII the Soviet Union and Stalin were by far the more evil of the two. In the Great Terror (or great purge) 1.9 million people were removed from the ranks and books of the communist party. In the years leading up to WWII this would have been a death sentence. Without party rations and benefits one would expect to starve or die from exposure.

The issue was russia (at that time) was not trying to expand into europe and with the invasion of Poland, Germany became the biggest issue. We knew about the expansionist desires of Stalin and ignored them.

I personally feel that was a mistake. We should have made demands at the end of the war that would have placed us in conflict with the USSR when it was weak. We allowed them to recover from the beating they took from Germany. While they did win the battle of Stalingrad it cost them dearly. Had germany not had to protect the west and east they might have defeated the USSR. Doubtful, but it is a possibility.
The funny thing is that Stalin had completely sided with Hitler. His half of Poland didn't see any better treatment than the Nazis gave, and near the end of the war, we found the evidence that Stalin had systematically executed around 20,000 Polish officers that he held in a POW camp.

The only reason we sided with Stalin was that Hitler backstabbed him, and Churchill needed pressure off of Western Europe. His famous statement was, "If Hitler invaded hell, I would side with the devil."

And he practically did.

Stalin pulled the U.S. into the war in Europe with his need of a more formidable second front to split Hitler's armies. He blamed America for the serious Russian losses, and we organized D-Day about a year before we would have been ready. And of course, that was before we knew anything about the atrocities that had happened in Russia and Poland.

The American government covered up a lot of the stuff that Stalin did once they found out. They believed it would be better if the American people didn't know. Speaking of propaganda.
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 #88038  by HolidayFriday
 Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:32 am
Followed up by a guy with shit for brains trying to increase his post count and repped by a guy with a shit name and shit avatar. How uncanny can it get?