While you're clearly not looking for any answer other than an indignant one, let me give you an honest answer.2tall wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2017 2:20 pmPP, when you're in the office and coming up with these website "improvements", is it a "your way or the highway" system or do you take input from other EBW douchebags? I predict a one day wait between forum posts.PepperPeanut wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2017 12:48 pmNo, I'm pointing out that the commenters have done to the forums what they did to the comments: Made people less interested in being there.
I'm not shutting the forums down, just need to focus more time to make them better.
Generally speaking, I ask everyone. With the recent community changes I asked everyone on the team who has experience with the community, or any other community. I talked to people who work at other websites that I'm friends with, and I did a lot of reading. I never make a big decision without running it by a few people to double check the logic. Anyone on the team can attest to the fact that I talk everything out, and reason everything out to an (at times) annoying degree.
By all accounts, the comments are actually already a lot better. I see people saying, "Nice job, ebaums, there's only two comments on the new feature", but in reality, that's okay. It's a feature that JUST went up, and when you're looking for comments about the content, it's going to take a little more time.
I would even argue that 15-50 on-topic comments are infinitely more valuable than 1000 comments of "cocks" and "brian is fat." I completely predict that you disagree with that, but that's also okay.
One of the most encouraging things we've seen this week is the conspiracy theory that all the users that are commenting on the features that aren't part of the usual 30-50 shitposters are actually just mod alts. These are actually often users that have been here for a long time. And sometimes they are users who have been commenting on the media the entire time you just didn't notice because they don't comment on the newest feature. Or, they're often users who just started commenting again after a long time. Or they're users who want to (get this) sign up to comment about something they're seeing on the site.
We also noticed that there's more activity on multiple media items at the same time, instead of 99% at the new feature. We're seeing active conversations on features further down the page.
We're noticing that sign-ups have gone up, logins have gone up, and the amount of good comments has significantly gone up. We have A LONG way to go to rebuilding the community, but this week has been a very successful start.
Oh and traffic has not dropped a single bit from the removal or subsequent change in comments.